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Meet Desa Kishar—a multidisciplinary artist, devoted mother of four, healer, and deep thinker. In this wide-ranging conversation, Desa shares her perspectives on motherhood, modesty, spirituality, personal evolution, relationships, raising a Black son, protecting her peace, creativity, and what it truly means to live with intention. Whether you’re interested in faith, healing, self-development, Black culture, or simply enjoy meaningful conversations, this interview is full of wisdom that will leave you reflecting long after it ends. Chapters 00:00 Introduction & Meet Desa Kishar 01:50 Desa’s journey through motherhood 05:45 Living with confidence, curves, and intentional modesty 10:30 Body image, self-worth, and embracing change 14:29 A message to men about respect, discipline, and self-value 17:32 Do we belong to each other? Exploring love, connection & freedom 22:58 Protecting your peace, boundaries, and access to your energy 26:44 Raising children, letting go, and preparing them for adulthood 30:30 Raising a Black son with love, awareness, and intention 35:05 Faith, healing, community, and personal evolution 37:48 Musical Pronouns: Desa’s artistic influences & inspirations 42:40 Why Desa wears a head wrap and dresses modestly 46:33 Words of wisdom for her son and daughters 48:15 Closing thoughts & outro If this conversation resonated with you, be sure to Like, Comment, and Subscribe for more thoughtful interviews with artists, entrepreneurs, healers, and changemakers. Follow Desa Kishar Instagram, Facebook & TikTok: @DesaKishar What was your biggest takeaway from this conversation? Let us know in the comments below. #DesaKishar #DevynZoolander #Podcast #ArtistInterview #Motherhood #ModestFashion #Faith #SpiritualGrowth #BlackCulture #Healing #PersonalDevelopment #SelfGrowth #Mindset #Relationships

Ifeoma Igwe is a Pittsburgh-based artist and illustrator known for her work on existentialism and shared experiences. In this episode, she talks about navigating her childhood as a Nigerian-American girl, developing as an artist on the Pittsburgh art scene, and how she used social media and her website to generate more exposure for her art. Ifeoma also chimes in on the never ending battle between Nigerians and Ghanaians over who makes the best jollof rice. https://www.ifeomacreates.com https://www.instagram.com/ifeomacreates11/ https://pittsburghfoundation.org/ifeoma

Yvette Renee Royal is the first African-American woman in the United States to open an esthetic salon featuring LPG Endermologie. Endermologie is a non-surgical procedure for cellulite treatment, blood circulation, and overall skin appearance. Her salon, Anastasia’s Crown Esthetic Services, is named after her niece who passed away as an infant. In this episode, Yvette explains the spiritual meaning of Anastasia’s Crown. She also shares how she is using her business to uplift women. I really enjoyed sitting down with Yvette and I strongly encourage women to book a session with Anastasia’s Crown. Anastasia’s Crown is more than a salon…it’s a MINISTRY! https://anastasiascrown.com https://www.instagram.com/anastasiascrown1/ https://www.sheenmagazine.com/yvette-royal-the-queen-of-skin-care/

Pittsburgh visual artist Ashante Josey stops by the show to discuss her journey to becoming the star painter that she is today. Her art primarily focuses on Black culture, nature, music, emotion, and symbolism. During our conversation, Ashante reflects on some recent achievements she’s accomplished including her 2023 Artivist Academy fellowship with 1Hood Media, her 2025 Fab 40 Award from the New Pittsburgh Courier, and the August Wilson African American Cultural Center featuring her painting “Let It Go” in their “Being Seen” exhibit. Stay tuned for an introspective dialogue with a Black woman who sometimes feels like her art is TOO BLACK FOR BLACK SPACES! https://www.ajoseyart.com

Professional Makeup Artist and Beat By Nesh Studio owner Tenesha Cameron stops by the show to talk about several topics including: her middle school introduction to makeup, how lying on her resume led to her doing Cardi B’s makeup, and navigating single motherhood without her mother’s guidance and wisdom. https://www.beatbynesh.com https://www.facebook.com/BeatByNesh/ https://www.tiktok.com/@beatbynesh?_t=ZP-8x6aHuAeMD0&_r=1 https://www.instagram.com/beatbyneshbeauty/

Diem Watson, Founder and Owner of Diem Style Studio, stops by talk about the journey that led her to opening her very own hair salon earlier this year. The businesswoman also discusses the challenges that she and her husband, Orlando, have with raising a child that has autism. In addition, Diem takes us back down memory lane to when she first met her husband at Youngstown State University. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diemstylestudio/ Diem Style Studio: https://www.styleseat.com/m/v/diemwatson2?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaergb0J_0jPwtAThJGObgNvqHGxxgxkEeweVL11drx_lgHPYVY4D88vlbbHCw_aem_xvz_q_VsP-RhIYh00Y_OcQ

My good friend, Mira Monique stops returns to talk about how practicing “radical acceptance” of certain aspects of her life is benefitting her mental, spiritual and physical wellness. During this episode, we talk about Tracee Ellis Ross’s recent comments about dating younger men because she finds that many of the men her own age are rigid in their views of masculinity. Mira also talks about the importance of eating nutrient-dense foods and lifting weights as she navigates through her 40s.

Emmy-nominated spoken word artist Diarra Imani stops by the show to talk about her debut album “Time Will Tell.” The nine-track offering features multiple genres including neo-soul, jazz fusion, R&B and hip-hop. In addition to her new album, Diarra reflects on her contributions to “The Ebony Canal” (a film documenting Black maternal health), the Equity Impact Center, her experience as a Scale Fellow, and how much she enjoys being the mother to an energetic toddler. You don’t want to miss this conversation! Website: https://diarraimani.com/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1QUsmL-tp7z-AltCdKlmsMPaPcsblMA89iutoBhTOcXvanSl3HiVePM_A_aem_cnw1Mje9sh89oCmHwX9l7w Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/diarraimani Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diarraimani/ “Time Will Tell” by Diarra Imani https://music.apple.com/us/album/time-will-tell/1768313825

Multidimensional artist Lo Yvette stops by to discuss her journey to becoming the visual artist, marketing consultant, and filmmaker that she is today. A native of Pittsburgh, Lo displayed her affinity for artistic expression when earned admission to Pittsburgh CAPA 6-12. As a student at Chatham University, Lo was an activist as she served on the Black Student Union. A few years ago Lo became the creative director for Afro Riche’, a movement started by four artists collaborating to restore an antique baby grande piano. In the second half of this episode, Lo interviews the Cynt, the visionary behind Afro Riche’. Lo Yvette Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/locreadit/ Lo Creates Shop: https://www.redbubble.com/people/locreates/shop Afro Riche Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afrorichepgh/

Visual artist, community activist, and political organizer Morgan Overton stops by the show to talk about the impact of Vice President Kamala Harris’s rise to becoming the Democratic nominee for this November’s presidential election. Since the age of four, Morgan has been engaging her peers in political discussions. Earlier this year, she was named as the youngest Allegheny County delegate to the 2024 Democratic National Convention. Also, we touched on the reason why she often emphasizes blackness through her art pieces. As a young Black woman from Pittsburgh, Morgan understands why her artistry and activism are critical to mobilizing marginalized communities in the face of intense pressure from fascist politicians. To follow all of the critical work that Morgan is doing, click on the following links: Website: https://www.mointhestudio.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mointhestudio Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mointhestudio/

A Songbird from Da Burgh featuring Shamira Underwood 
 Free-spirited, fun-loving, “melanated mother” stops by the show to discuss raising her three sons, working as an educator for almost 20 years in the Pittsburgh Public School district, and her love for singing. My favorite part of the show was when Shamira asked me to join her in performing some karaoke of our favorite 90s R&B songs. Stay tuned for a fascinating conversation with one of Pittsburgh’s best-kept secrets!

Chrisarah Johnson, owner of Good Days Brand (a streetwear clothing line) stops by to talk about many topics including her most important job which is being her son Bean’s FINE ASS mom! Raised in the Beltzhoover neighborhood of Pittsburgh, Chrisarah is now serving her community as the Zone 3 Safer Together Coordinator for Pittsburgh under the leadership of The Honorable Mayor Ed Gainey. Since her time at Brashear High School, Chrisarah has always been a civically-engaged leader. As a student at the first degree-granting Historically Black College and University (HBCU), Chrisarah’s love for activism motivated her to join Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated. Stay tuned for a laid-back conversation with the multi-faceted Chrisarah Johnson! ​Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/gooddaysbrand/​Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gooddaysbrand/​https://www.thelifestylenyc.com/fashionnyc/chrisarah-johnson

Professional athlete + massage therapist Ashley Hogan stops by the show to discuss healthy parenting, massage therapy, and seizing opportunities. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bemore.light?igsh=MW4waTY0a3ZpZzNsZg== TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bemore.light?_t=8nAMoS6ptZC&_r=1&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaaZAwZBVlZqmkemGkNmX8YYVmwSfDV6QtvDufHN4-A13pEd10XKPFGz24g_aem_lRrpLjl6IbXBnrVPk1dm4g

Trauma Specialist and Spiritual Coach Ebony Tutora stops by the show to talk about how surviving and healing from multiple childhood traumas prepared her to guide other women through their own traumatic experiences. Her passion is teaching holistic practices that focus on inner child healing, mindset mastery, and meditation. We also discuss the toxic social media debates that are hindering relationships between Black men and Black women.

Self-taught mixed media artist, muralist, live painter, entrepreneur and educator Juliandra Jones (Juli) stops by the show to discuss the origin of her company “PBJ Customs.” In addition to her artistic journey, Juli sheds light on the impact that several traumatic experiences have had on her personally and professionally. If you would like to purchase “custom art for custom people,” check out Juli’s work at https://www.pbjcustoms.com/home. https://www.instagram.com/pbjcustoms/ https://www.facebook.com/PBJCustoms https://www.tiktok.com/@pbjcustoms8