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2020/12/16
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2026/04/22
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Welcome to the RiskReversal Pod, where Dan Nathan and Guy Adami are joined by the most brilliant minds in markets and tech. We break down the most important market moving headlines to help listeners make better informed investing decisions. Our goal is to deconstruct Wall Street speak and offer contrarian insights and strategies that help investors navigate increasingly volatile markets. — FOLLOW US YouTube: @RiskReversalMedia Instagram: @riskreversalmedia Twitter: @RiskReversal LinkedIn: RiskReversal Media
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Dan Ives on Tim Cook's Surprise Departure & Apple's Ticking AI Time Bomb
2026/04/22
Dan Nathan interviews Wedbush's Dan Ives on “Okay, Computer.” about Tim Cook unexpectedly stepping down as Apple CEO (remaining chairman) ahead of WWDC, Apple’s still-unclear AI strategy, and why Apple’s installed base could make it a key “toll collector” for consumer AI via edge computing, services, and an AI-enabled App/agent ecosystem that may drive higher hardware memory needs and subscriptions. They discuss whether Apple’s valuation can rerate if it proves AI success and argue the new CEO should be more acquisitive in AI/software/robotics. Ives says fears that Anthropic/OpenAI will “unseat” major SaaS incumbents are a false narrative, expecting AI monetization to improve as features bundle into core products and pricing models evolve. They preview earnings setups for Microsoft, Google, and Meta, and share Asia channel-check takeaways: strong AI hardware demand, a memory supercycle, and potential geopolitical supply-chain risks.
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"The Market Will Never Go Down Again"
2026/04/20
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss an unusually persistent market rally, with a “sea of green” pushing the S&P 500 to new highs as crude oil reverses lower on signs the Strait of Hormuz remains open during a ceasefire. They debate whether investors are conditioned to buy dips even if Middle East tensions flare again, noting VIX levels and an overbought setup heading into the heart of earnings. They flag Netflix down 10% despite solid free cash flow, attributing the drop to guidance and Reed Hastings leaving the board, and call out Intel’s near-parabolic move ahead of a pivotal print. They also examine software’s potential inflection (including SAP), strong bank CEO tone on the consumer, energy-stock pullbacks as buying opportunities, homebuilders surging on lower yields, and key upcoming guests and shows.
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How The SPX Reaches Mike Wilson's 7,800 Target
2026/04/17
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami welcome Morgan Stanley’s Chief U.S. Equity Strategist Mike Wilson back to the Risk Reversal Podcast to discuss his career at the firm and his current market outlook. Wilson argues markets have largely priced in bad news and likely put in the year’s lows near the 6,500 range, citing capitulation signals, positioning, and sentiment, though geopolitical risk from the Iran conflict remains. He sees earnings strength and broadening beyond the “Mag Seven,” with opportunities in small caps, consumer discretionary, financials, and industrials, while noting AI-driven hyperscalers became cheaper and can still work. Key risks include bond volatility and a loss of control of long-end rates amid heavy refinancing needs and a Fed leadership transition. They also cover AI CapEx returns, energy constraints, U.S.-China competition, private credit’s limited systemic threat, consumer affordability issues, and Wilson’s 7,800 S&P 500 target within 9 to 12 months.
Show Notes
Earnings Insight (FactSet)
China’s surging chip tool imports from south-east Asia (FT)
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Does The Future Hold More Downside For Oracle?
2026/04/15
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss major tech themes and trades, focusing on dispersion in mega-cap tech and the recent underperformance and rebounds of the “Mag 7.” They examine Microsoft’s AI positioning and Azure deceleration amid ongoing capacity and power constraints, contrasted with rivals (AWS, Oracle, GCP) picking up demand tied to OpenAI. The conversation highlights Michael Burry’s view that software-stock declines have been amplified by software credit stress and may be overextended, with Oracle as a key example given its steep drawdown and elevated CDS. They also cover Apple’s AI strategy, reliance on Gemini, WWDC expectations to improve Siri, and key technical levels amid headline sensitivity. Finally, they assess Intel’s sharp rally tied to a reworked CHIPS deal and Nvidia involvement, and preview Netflix earnings with a mixed technical setup and potential upside.
Show Notes
Trading Post Monday April 13th (Cassandra Unchained)
Top of the Morning (Axios)
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Mission Impossible: Finding Value In A Volatile Market
2026/04/13
Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss a volatile Friday session after a hotter-than-expected CPI, with software making multi-year lows while semiconductors push to highs, raising the idea that “something’s gotta give.” They point to Microsoft’s sharp drawdown as emblematic of software weakness and debate whether capitulation is near as earnings approach, while semis rally on incremental AI hardware headlines like Broadcom’s TPU-related deal with Google and Anthropic. They consider a 2026 “trade” of bottom-fishing battered software and fading crowded semis, flagging Intel’s rich valuation and Qualcomm’s lagging performance despite an edge-AI/inference narrative. They also note security stocks selling off despite rising AI-driven vulnerability concerns, warn that any hyperscaler CapEx pullback could hit semis hard, and preview bank earnings amid mixed signals on consumer credit, deregulation/IPO optimism, and cyclical risk, alongside geopolitics affecting oil and Taiwan.
Articles Mentioned
Why the ‘SaaSpocalypse’ doomsayers are wrong (FT)
Anthropic Model Scare Sparks Urgent Bessent, Powell Warning to Bank CEOs (Bloomberg)
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Liz Ann Sonders: The Stock Market Isn’t A Casino
2026/04/10
Guy Adami welcomes Liz Ann Sonders, Chief Investment Strategist at Charles Schwab, for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of modern markets. From the casino-like trading environment that has taken hold in recent weeks, to the deeper cultural forces driving younger investors toward speculation, Liz Ann brings clarity and perspective to some of the most pressing questions in finance today. They also explore behavioral biases, the value of staying disciplined through volatility, and what financial media should be saying but isn't.
Show Notes
Gambler's Blues: Betting Isn't Investing (Schwab.com)
Follow Liz on Twitter: https://x.com/LizAnnSonders
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Sam Altman’s MisAI-lignment of OpenAI’s Financial Reality with Gene Munster
2026/04/08
Dan Nathan and Gene Munster of Deepwater Asset Management discuss tech stocks heading into Q1 earnings, focusing on why Google and Broadcom outperformed on news of an Anthropic compute deal using Google TPUs and Broadcom, which they view as validating accelerating AI demand. They explore investor anxiety around AI hardware multiples and hyperscaler CapEx, noting street expectations for calendar 2027 spending growth and how that affects Nvidia and Broadcom sentiment, while arguing AI remains early despite massive costs. Munster outlines Deepwater’s view that premium “high-end” tokens may not commoditize as quickly as costs fall, citing their machine-driven Intelligent Alpha (GPT) ETF. They explain why they don’t own Microsoft, pointing to seat-growth concerns and disappointment with Copilot, and discuss Apple’s need for an AI narrative shift, including privacy-focused personalized AI. Munster previews his SpaceX views, saying it doesn’t need to go public but IPOs can broaden access and lower capital costs, and they consider whether a SpaceX listing impacts Tesla positioning.
Show Notes
Read Ben Thompson's Stratechery
OpenAI CEO and CFO Diverge on IPO Timing (The Information)
Gene's Piece on SpaceX (X)
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The IPO Floodgates Are Open + Private Equity's AI Wake-Up Call with CNBC's Deirdre Bosa & Rowspace's Michael Manapat
2026/04/06
The IPO floodgates are opening — and AI is driving the wave.
Dan Nathan sits down with CNBC anchor and tech columnist Deirdre Bosa to break down the biggest stories in tech right now: SpaceX's confidential IPO filing, the Anthropic vs. OpenAI battle for investor dollars, Apple's strange standoff with the vibe coding generation, and why the AI trade has been a dud in public markets even as private valuations soar.
Then, Dan talks with Michael Manapat, Co-Founder and CEO of Rowspace — the AI-native financial data platform that just raised $50M in a Sequoia-led round. Michael breaks down why private equity and private credit firms can't afford to sit on the sidelines anymore, how Rowspace is deploying agents across every layer of their business, and what it really means to be "AI-native" in 2026.
Two conversations. One throughline: the money is moving, the window is open, and the firms that don't adapt are already behind.
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The $39 Trillion Warning Markets Are Ignoring
2026/04/03
Danny Moses returns to the Risk Reversal Podcast with a stark warning: the tools that bailed us out in 2008 and COVID won't work this time. With U.S. debt surging from $35.5T to $39T in just 18 months, Danny explains why the Fed is boxed in, why small businesses are drowning in economic scar tissue, and why crude oil hitting 4-year highs while stocks shrug should have everyone paying attention. Plus — his one genuinely bullish conviction play in a market that's making optimism very hard to find.
Checkout the WAWD Substack
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SpaceX IPO & The Next Frontier for a $1 Trillion Industry with CNBC’s Morgan Brennan
2026/04/02
Dan Nathan hosts CNBC’s Morgan Brennan on the RiskReversal Podcast to discuss her path from music and anthropology to Forbes during the 2009 crisis and then CNBC, and how breaking news—an on-pad SpaceX explosion in 2016 and later Trump’s defense-focused tweets—pulled her into covering space and defense tech. They explore NASA’s Artemis program and its refocus on beating China to the moon, arguing public-private partnerships, new contracting models, and rocket reusability have dramatically improved economics, enabling smaller firms to execute NASA missions at a fraction of past costs. The conversation covers how space and defense investing is shaped by demand signals, milestone-driven public comps, venture and private-equity capital, and a potential SpaceX IPO where Starlink’s recurring revenue is central, alongside Starship’s promise. They also discuss deconsolidation, dual-use tech, autonomous systems, changing Pentagon dealmaking, and the growing intersection of industrial policy, national security, supply chains, and resources.
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AI, DeFi & The Great Convergence with Galaxy's FinTech Guru Joe Armao
2026/04/01
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Dan Nathan hosts Joe Armao, fund manager of the Galaxy FinTech Fund, who recounts his path from Blackstone through the financial crisis to long/short investing at Senator, where he pushed into fintech and digital assets. They discuss a shift from recent market tailwinds to a more mixed macro backdrop, consumer resilience despite energy shock concerns, and a rotation-driven, choppier “stock picker’s market.” Armao outlines risks in private credit and gating, expects pockets of pain rather than systemic crisis, and emphasizes active balance-sheet work. On crypto, he describes Galaxy’s “great convergence” thesis: prices may lag even as blockchain infrastructure adoption accelerates via stablecoins, tokenization, and 24/7 rails for payments and trading. He explains DeFi concepts, Uniswap governance tokens, Hyperliquid’s revenue-driven token buybacks and leveraged perps, and why tokenizing blue-chip equities could expand global distribution and enable always-on markets. Armao argues AI and blockchain are now mission-critical to fintech investing and create dispersion suited to long/short strategies.
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What Makes the White House Blink First: Rising Rates or Sinking Stocks?
2026/03/30
Guy Adami and Dan Nathan break down a market that looks calm on the surface but is flashing serious warning signs underneath. The real pressure point isn't the stock market — it's the bond market, where rising yields and an incoming Fed chair are setting up a test few are prepared for.
The duo cover the stagflation setup quietly taking shape, the silent destruction in mega-cap tech (Microsoft, Nvidia, Meta), and why weakness in financials — with nearly $2 trillion in private credit exposure — may be the most underappreciated risk in the market right now.
As Pete Townshend once said: "No one respects the flame quite like the fool who's badly burned." Guy and Dan think a lot of people are about to find out what that means.
Show Notes
An Invisible Bottleneck: A Helium Shortage Threatens the Chip Industry (NYT)
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How To Trade Volatile Markets with Dan Greenhaus
2026/03/27
Dan Nathan and Dan Greenhaus discuss heightened Middle East war risk and how it’s driving market moves, with the S&P 500 down near recent lows, yields near multi-month highs, the dollar firming, and crude in the mid-$90s, while stressing how difficult it is to “trade geopolitics.” Greenhaus argues markets may be underpricing escalation risk but notes the U.S. is less oil-intensive, so higher gasoline hurts sentiment more than GDP, with tax-bill refunds partly offsetting pump prices and a lasting geopolitical premium likely keeping oil above prior lows. They debate recession calls, citing payment networks’ commentary that consumer health remains solid, and discuss why headline inflation may rise while core inflation moves little, making Fed hikes unlikely as long-term inflation expectations stay anchored. They also address tight credit spreads, AI-driven capex concentration, tech valuation compression, layoffs, and private credit concerns, arguing losses are not yet systemic and gates are disclosed, while advising caution and sometimes doing nothing amid exogenous uncertainty.
Show Notes
Debt Service Payments Rising (The Daily Spark)
Private credit is looking shakier (Axios)
Checkout Rosenberg Research
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Jeff Richards: These Are The Only Software Stocks Worth Owning Right Now
2026/03/25
Dan Nathan and Jeff Richards (Managing Partner at Notable Capital) discuss shifting AI narratives and market crosscurrents, focusing on OpenAI, Anthropic (which Notable backs), xAI, Gemini, and Microsoft’s Copilot. Richards argues Claude/Cowork’s breakout and rapid model improvement are forcing every software company to ask whether its product improves as models improve, while public-market uncertainty has pressured SaaS valuations even as enterprise AI demand accelerates. He says net-new IT spend is increasingly flowing to private AI companies with consumption-based pricing, while incumbents face the Innovator’s Dilemma and pricing cannibalization. They also cover cloud infrastructure demand, opaque private-company financials, IPO considerations, and how volatility and redemption dynamics in private credit are weighing on alt managers like Apollo, KKR, and Blackstone, though Richards expects any issues to be relatively contained.
Articles Mentioned
OpenAI to double workforce as business push intensifies (FT)
xAI Sends Engineers to Client Sites to Win Business from OpenAI (Bloomberg)
Microsoft Copilot Is Confronting Its Identity Crisis (Bloomberg)
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Stocks Fail To Build On Monday's Momentum
2026/03/24
MRKT Matrix - Tuesday, March 24th
S&P 500 falls, giving back chunk of Monday’s rally as oil prices rebound, Iran war continues (CNBC)
Jamie Dimon says Iran war makes Middle East peace prospects better in the long term (CNBC)
Dimon warns on AI job losses, calls for government-business incentives (CNBC)
Big Banks Are Playing Both Sides of the Private-Credit Meltdown (WSJ)
Apollo caps investor withdrawals from flagship private credit fund (FT)
Apple Plans AI Reboot With Siri App, New Look and ‘Ask Siri’ Button in iOS 27 (Bloomberg)
Meta Names New Leader of Push to Adopt AI Throughout Its Workforce (WSJ)
US must suspend Nvidia AI chip exports to China, senators say (FT)
OpenAI Set to Raise About $10 Billion From MGX, Coatue, Thrive (Bloomberg)
SoftBank tests its own borrowing limits with $30bn bet on OpenAI (FT)
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Truth value 2026/03/30
Always the same
These guys always say the same thing. It’s always negative…always doom and gloom. These guys have been negative for the past few years while the sto...
Beantown Billy Goat 2026/03/21
Jim Chanos’ interview?
Came here for an interview to catch up on Jim Chanos’ perspectives. But my ears were assaulted by ramblings and interruptions by the hosts. Never agai...
JGKny 2026/03/18
Right?
Hey Dan Nathan, perhaps stop punctuating virtually every other darn sentence with: “Right?” Such an annoying verbal tic. Excruciating
Eddo's IPOD 2026/03/05
I take it back
Earlier I gave a 5 star review when I first heard earlier podcasts. I gave up on risk reversal due to Dan Nathan . He does not allow guests to elabo...
Ravi Sheshappa 2026/02/12
Great info
Always interesting and informative.
Katie Jill 2026/01/25
Great podcast for understanding the markets!
Great info, great guests, and great hosts!
EBHIV 2026/01/24
Listen every week
OK Computer, Dan and his guests bring something new every week. Dan puts in the work to support his views, and also question his own conviction. This ...
danplans 2026/01/22
Andrew Ross Sorkin 1929
Excellent Pod on Andrew Ross Sorkin's book 1929.
borbert35 2026/01/20
Great pod!!!!
I love the contrasting ideas that you guys entertain. I love that I can get the underlying themes in the market from your show without following every...
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