This Being Human is a new podcast by the Aga Khan Museum. In every episode, host Abdul-Rehman Malik interviews an incredible person at the top of their game on Muslim art, culture, history, and society. They'll explore everything from prayer and pilgrimage, politics and pop culture, love and education, feminism, and film, sports and music, and so much more. Through deep, thoughtful conversation, this one-of-a-kind podcast hopes to bridge divides, dispel myths, and learn things we didn’t know about the kaleidoscope of the Muslim experience.
This Being Human is produced by Antica Productions. The Museum wishes to thank Nadir and Shabin Mohamed for their leadership support to develop and produce This Being Human.
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Building From Within: Kareem Ibrahim’s Vision for Esna
2026/10/13
What does it take to bring new life to a city without erasing what made it special in the first place?
In Esna, a historic city along the Nile, architect Kareem Ibrahim and his team have spent years finding out. Their approach starts not with buildings, but with the people already there: local craftspeople, business owners, traditions and knowledge that can easily be overlooked when cities are redeveloped.
In this episode of This Being Human, Mai Habib speaks with Kareem about the long, sometimes messy work of earning a community’s trust, and how that process helped transform Esna into an award-winning model for heritage and tourism in Egypt. They also trace the unlikely story of Okra, a cooking competition that grew into a women-run restaurant attracting visitors from around the world. It’s a conversation about what can happen when preservation means more than protecting old buildings—and when the future of a place is built from what is already there.
*The Museum wishes to thank Nadir and Shabin Mohamed for their founding support of This Being Human.*
Guest Bio
Kareem Ibrahim is an Egyptian architect, urban development expert, and co-founder and CEO of Takween Integrated Community Development. His work spans heritage conservation, inclusive urban revitalization, community development and urban policy. In 2025, Takween’s Revitalization of Historic Esna project received an Aga Khan Award for Architecture for its approach to preserving the city’s heritage while supporting local economic and community development.
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This was just one example of Muslim art and culture that sparked curiosity and a great conversation. There is so much more to see at the Aga Khan Museum. Support the Museum's vision to impact lives and contribute to more inclusive and peaceful societies. Go to agakhanmuseum.org to plan your visit or make a donation.You can find more about Takween Integrated Community Development and its projects online and on Instagram.For a taste of Esna, be sure to look into Okra, the restaurant in Esna entirely operated by local women.Check out more episodes in full video.
Key Moments
00:21 Intro to This Being Human and Egyptian architect Kareem Ibrahim
01:40 The city of Esna’s historical significance
04:16 Peeling back layers: what it takes to support an award-winning revitalization project
08:23 The importance of inclusion and community in consensus building
13:31 MasterChef Esna: enabling and empowering local women through gastronomy
20:41 Esna as a model for the future of Egyptian tourism
23:32 Developing and supporting areas in need
28:47 Kareem Ibrahim’s closing remarks on creating human impact
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Seeing Islam Through Art with Christiane Gruber
2026/09/15
What ties an 8th-century mosaic in the Dome of the Rock to a contemporary abstract carpet? For Islamic art historian Christiane Gruber, that question has driven three decades of research—pushing her away from the idea of a single "Islamic art" and toward a field defined by plurality and contradiction.
In this episode of This Being Human, Gruber joins host Mai Habib to read political meaning into sacred ornament, and to dismantle a persistent myth: that the Prophet Muhammad has never been depicted in Islamic art history. She traces how these depictions evolved from detailed faces to veiled figures wrapped in flame, and closes on her newest research interest—eco-Islamic art —and why stewardship and sacred water feel more urgent now than ever.
*The Museum wishes to thank Nadir and Shabin Mohamed for their founding support of This Being Human.*
Guest Bio
Christiane Gruber is the Mehmet Ağa-Oğlu Collegiate Professor of Islamic Art History in the History of Art Department at the University of Michigan, and founding director of Khamseen: Islamic Art History Online, a free digital platform for teaching Islamic art and visual culture. Her research spans medieval to contemporary Islamic art, with a focus on figural representation, depictions of the Prophet Muhammad, and book arts. She is the author of several books, including The Praiseworthy One: The Prophet Muhammad in Islamic Texts and Images (Indiana University Press, 2019).
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This was just one example of Muslim art and culture that sparked curiosity and a great conversation. There is so much more to see at the Aga Khan Museum. Support the Museum's vision to impact lives and contribute to more inclusive and peaceful societies. Go to agakhanmuseum.org to plan your visit or make a donation.Explore Khamseen: Islamic Art History Online, Christiane Gruber's free digital platform for teaching Islamic art.Learn more about Christiane Gruber and her research at the University of Michigan.Read more in Anna Gade's Muslim Environmentalisms: Religious and Social Foundations, referenced in the episode's discussion of eco-Islamic art.
Key Moments
0:21 Introduction to This Being Human and Christiane Gruber
1:16 What comes to mind when we think of Islamic art
6:13 Moving beyond the idea of one "true" Islam
8:16 Reading political and religious meaning into the Dome of the Rock
10:50 The surprising history of depicting the Prophet Muhammad
13:52 The poetry behind the facial veil and the halo
18:57 Picture vs. picturation: representing the more-than-human
20:42 The Rose of the Prophet and the Sunnah of representation
22:19 Founding Khamseen, a "COVID baby"
25:07 Eco-Islamic art, from the Kaaba to climate change
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Creating Space for Muslim Women in Sport with Amreen Kadwa
2026/08/18
Amreen Kadwa didn't set out to build a nonprofit. She set out to find people like her: Muslim women who played sports and understood what it felt like to walk into a locker room and wonder if you belonged.
In this episode of This Being Human, host Mai Habib talks with Amreen about the winding road from rugby pitches in Toronto to founding Hijabi Ballers, an organization that's grown from a single Facebook post into a multi-sport community reaching thousands of women across the GTA and beyond.
They dig into what changes when an athlete finally sees someone who looks like her on the field, how a bad injury became an unexpected turning point, and why partnerships with brands like Nike and the Toronto Raptors matter—not for the validation, but for what they make possible. Amreen also shares the simple piece of advice she gives every coach and ally who wants to do right by Muslim women athletes: stop guessing what they need, and ask.
The Museum wishes to thank Nadir and Shabin Mohamed for their founding support of This Being Human.
Guest Bio
Hijabi Ballers was founded in 2017 by Amreen Kadwa, a young Muslim rugby player who felt isolated by the lack of hijab-wearing role models in sport. After connecting with other Muslim women athletes and realizing many shared similar experiences of exclusion, she created a space for community. A single Facebook post quickly connected her with dozens of women, leading to the first Hijabi Ballers Sports Festival, which drew over 200 participants. The success of that event showed the need for inclusive, dedicated spaces for Muslim women in sports.
Today, Hijabi Ballers is a non-profit organization that empowers Muslim girls and women through safe, inclusive sports programs that support both athletic and leadership development.
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This was just one example of Muslim art and culture that sparked curiosity and a great conversation. There is so much more to see at the Aga Khan Museum. Support the Museum's vision to impact lives and contribute to more inclusive and peaceful societies. Go to agakhanmuseum.org to plan your visit or make a donation.Visit Hijabi Ballers online and follow them on Instagram.Explore the Hijabi Ballers Coaches Toolkit, designed to help coaches, parents, and allies support Muslim female athletes.
Key Moments
0:20 Intro to This Being Human and Hijabi Ballers
1:21 Finding herself through rugby in high school
5:48 An injury, a recovery, and the founding of Hijabi Ballers
10:00 Creating a space where every Muslim woman belongs
13:13 Going international: Nike, hate comments, and the app's rise and end
17:10 The ten programs running today, from hockey to rugby
19:42 Welcoming non-Muslim friends into the space
21:43 Inside the Coaches Toolkit: "ask your athlete"
24:59 Nike, the Raptors, and the rise of modest activewear
27:08 A decade of cultural change and Amreen's message to allies
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Music: A Language We All Speak with Mekaal Hasan
2026/07/21
"I don't want perfect. Perfect is boring.”
In this episode of This Being Human, host Mai Habib chats with Mekaal Hasan, a renowned Pakistani musician to discuss his lifelong journey of connecting the worlds of traditional South Asian music with more contemporary genres like rock, jazz, and fusion.
Growing up in Lahore, Pakistan, Mekaal was heavily influenced by his father, a music critic and a columnist. In 1995, he graduated from the Berklee College of Music in Boston, Massachusetts, and returned to Pakistan where he founded the Mekaal Hasan Band in 2001.
Mekaal’s mission is to create music that connects cultures, lifts up other artists, and preserves tradition while redefining what Qawwali music can look like.
The Museum wishes to thank Nadir and Shabin Mohamed for their founding support of This Being Human.
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This was just one example of Muslim art that sparked curiosity and a great conversation. There is so much more to see at the Aga Khan Museum. Support the museum's vision to impact lives and contribute to more inclusive and peaceful societies. Go to agakhanmuseum.org to plan your visit or make a donation.Watch this video episode on YouTube.Visit Mekaal Hasan’s website and watch his band on YouTube.Mekaal Hasan | Aga Khan MuseumWhy Mekaal Hasan refuses to live in the past
Key Moments
0:00 Introduction to This Being Human and Mekaal Hasan
2:57 Mekaal’s time at the Berklee College of Music
7:53 Breaking down barriers through music
11:20 The cultural shift between 1990’s Pakistan and today
15:35 Honouring Qawwali legend Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
20:18 Comparing Eastern and Western music and performance styles
25:32 The future of the Mekaal Hasan Band
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The Shape of Culture: Arabic Typography with Dr. Huda Smitshuijzen AbiFarès
2026/06/23
When Dr. Huda Smitshuijzen AbiFarès moved from Beirut to study in the United States, she found herself doing something she'd never had to do before: explaining her own visual culture to people who'd never seen it. That challenge changed everything. It sent her deep into the history of Arabic typography—how it grew from calligraphic tradition, was codified by ninth-century philologists in Baghdad, and is now being reimagined through algorithms and animation. And it gave her a lifelong mission: to show the world a side of SWANA creative culture that rarely makes it into the conversation.
In this episode, host Mai Habib sits down with Dr. Smitshuijzen AbiFarès to go behind the scenes of her exhibition Inner Structures, Outer Rhythms, explore what makes Arabic letterforms so uniquely expressive, and make the case that contemporary graphic design from the SWANA region is one of the most direct living continuations of Islamic artistic heritage.
*The Museum wishes to thank Nadir and Shabin Mohamed for their founding support of This Being Human.*
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This was just one example of Muslim art that sparked curiosity and a great conversation. There is so much more to see at the Aga Khan Museum. Support the museum's vision to impact lives and contribute to more inclusive and peaceful societies. Go to agakhanmuseum.org to plan your visit or make a donation.Can't make it in person? Explore the 3D virtual tour of Inner Structures, Outer Rhythms from anywhere in the world.Check out more episodes in full video.
Key Moments
0:00 Introduction to This Being Human and the world of Arabic typography
1:20 Dr. Smitshuijzen AbiFarès' background and how studying abroad sparked her passion for typography
3:07 Defining typography, and how it differs from calligraphy and hand lettering
5:59 How the Arabic script connects cultures across the SWANA region and beyond
8:58 The Quran as connector: Arabic, Islam, and the preservation of a shared script
11:51 What makes Arabic letterforms uniquely readable across wildly different styles
13:36 Behind the scenes of Inner Structures, Outer Rhythms: vision, work, and journey
18:11 How the exhibition adapted to audiences in Qatar, Germany, and Toronto
21:10 Why sparking new conversations—not delivering answers—was the ultimate goal
27:55 The future of Arabic typography: algorithms, animation, and a script that endures
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Dreaming Your Own Museum with Ohida Khandakar
2026/05/26
Some museums you visit. Others, you dream.
In this episode of This Being Human, host Mai Habib sits down with artist and filmmaker Ohida Khandakar to discuss her award-winning film Dream Your Museum. Ohida reflects on how her Uncle Selim Khandakar’s collection of over 12,000 ordinary—yet utterly extraordinary—objects, acquired over 50 years, became a living museum through imagination and storytelling.
From a mud house to the Victoria and Albert Museum, Dream Your Museum rethinks exhibition spaces, emphasizing dynamic engagement with culture and everyday life as their defining attributes.
Follow along as Ohida shares her experience navigating the arts as a Muslim Indian woman, the process of curating and documenting a museum that comes to life, and why you should dream about the impossible. She also offers up the essentials to dream your own museum: inspiration, creation, and human connection.
The Museum wishes to thank Nadir and Shabin Mohamed for their founding support of This Being Human.
This was just one example of Muslim art that sparked curiosity and a great conversation. There is so much more to see at the Aga Khan Museum. Support the Museum's vision to impact lives and contribute to more inclusive and peaceful societies. Go to agakhanmuseum.org to plan your visit or make a donation.Visit Ohida Khandakar’s portfolio to see her gallery and more of her artistic background.For more information on Dream Your Museum’s 2025 exhibition at the V&A, check out Jameel Prize: Moving Images.Read more about Jameel Prize winner Khandakar Ohida: ‘Personal stories open universal memories’.Check out more episodes in full video.
Key Moments
[0:10] Introduction to This Being Human and Ohida Khandakar’s short film Dream Your Museum
[1:18] Ohida Khandakar’s background in the arts and artistic interests
[1:54] Pursuing a career in visual art as a Muslim Indian woman
[5:59] From mud house to the moon: Dream Your Museum’s inspiration and creation
[13:00] Curating and caring for the traveling museum
[15:46] Collecting curiosities: how decades of artistic ritual became a museum
[19:59] Sharing the subtle joys of simple objects
[22:08] Living objects: the restorative power of imagination
[23:40] Redefining museum spaces: dreaming, creating, and transforming our surroundings
[26:40] Closing remarks on Dream Your Museum
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Manifesting Light: Designing the Aga Khan Museum
2026/04/28
Before the Aga Khan Museum became a landmark in Toronto, it started with a letter about light.
In this episode of This Being Human, host Mai Habib sits down with principal architect Gary Kamemoto, who led the Museum’s design alongside the late Fumihiko Maki. He shares how that single idea—light—shaped everything, from the building’s geometry and materials to the way you move through the space.
Along the way, you get a closer look at the thinking behind the Aga Khan Museum’s architecture, and how it draws on Islamic design and ideas of pluralism to create something that feels both timeless and distinctly contemporary.
Gary also gets into the details you’d likely miss on a first visit: patterns that shift with the sun, geometry hiding in plain sight, and a subtle architectural tribute woven into the building itself—details that, once you know they’re there, change how you see it.
*The Museum wishes to thank Nadir and Shabin Mohamed for their founding support of This Being Human.*
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This was just one example of Muslim art that sparked curiosity and a great conversation. There is so much more to see at the Aga Khan Museum. Support the museum's vision to impact lives and contribute to more inclusive and peaceful societies. Go to agakhanmuseum.org to plan your visit or make a donation.Read more from Gary Kamemoto on the partnership between Maki and Associates and the AKDNCheck out this episode in full video.
Key Moments
[0:10] Introduction to This Being Human and the Aga Khan Museum as an architectural masterpiece
[1:16] Gary Kamemoto on his background and navigating identity between cultures
[3:46] The origin story: from the Delegation Building to the museum project
[6:58] Working with His Highness the Aga Khan as a patron of architecture
[8:56] The “letter about light” as an unconventional design brief
[11:37] Reimagining the 17-acre site: why the garden—not the building—became central
[18:38] Pluralism as process: translating philosophy into physical space
[23:20] Designing for discovery: how the museum reveals itself over time
[27:42] Hidden details: symbolism, geometry, and the significance of the number seven
[31:18] Closing reflections on legacy, collaboration, and the museum’s ongoing life
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Season 5 Teaser
2026/04/21
New host. New format. Now on video.
Welcome to the relaunch of This Being Human, the Aga Khan Museum’s podcast about Muslim art, global cultures and how we’re all connected. This season, new host Mai Habib talks with inspiring artists, writers, designers, and creators from across the Muslim world and beyond.
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Beyond Boundaries with Pakistani Artist Yousuf Bashir Qureshi
2024/12/17
In this episode, we sit down with Yousuf Bashir Qureshi, known to many as YBQ, a visionary artist whose work blends music, culture, and storytelling to craft a truly global sound. From his roots to his rise, YBQ shares his journey of artistic discovery, the influences that shaped his music, and the profound themes of identity, belonging, and transformation that echo through his work. Whether you're a fan of his genre-bending soundscapes or curious about how art can bridge cultural divides, this episode will leave you inspired and enlightened. Tune in for an intimate, reflective conversation that celebrates creativity, resilience, and the power of connection.
Learn more about YBQ's work at https://www.ybqds.com.
If you enjoyed this episode and want to learn more, go to agakhanmuseum.org/thisbeinghuman.
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Hisham Matar on Friendship and Writing from the Margins
2024/12/03
Pulitzer Prize-winning author Hisham Matar joins This Being Human to discuss his latest novel, My Friends. He reflects on themes of friendship, exile, and the complexities of writing from the margins. Matar shares how his work explores life's central question: How might we live? Through meditations on cities, memory, and the human condition, he offers a tender and profound view of what it means to connect with others.
To fill out our listener survey, go to agakhanmuseum.org/tbhsurvey. If you enjoyed this episode and want to learn more, go to agakhanmuseum.org/thisbeinghuman.
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Krista Tippett on Wisdom, Love, and the Art of Deep Listening
2024/11/19
In this episode of This Being Human, host Abdul-Rehman Malik sits down with Krista Tippett, the celebrated creator of On Being. Known for her gift of drawing out insights from some of the world's most profound thinkers, Krista reflects on her journey through wisdom, love, and radical listening. She shares what it means to pursue understanding in a time when we are overloaded with information, and how her approach to conversations invites us to open up to life's mystery and grace. Krista also shares the unexpected joy of new love in her life and how it has deepened her sense of connection and presence. Join us for an intimate, timeless conversation with one of today's most trusted voices in exploring what it means to truly be human.
Learn more about Krista's work at onbeing.org.
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Stories That Shape Us: Saima Hussain on Libraries, Identity, and Heritage
2024/11/05
In this episode, we sit down with writer, editor, and librarian Saima Hussain. From her book The Arab World Thought of It: Inventions, Innovations and Amazing Facts, to the anthology The Muslimah Who Fell to Earth, Saima's work uncovers the forgotten contributions and personal stories of Muslim cultures. She shares her journey from Pakistan to Canada, her reflections on the power of storytelling, and how libraries serve as spaces for connection, learning, and equality. Saima also discusses the importance of oral histories, the complexities of identity, and her mission to make knowledge accessible to everyone, especially through her work with young people in library spaces.
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Finding Joy and Connection in Storytelling with Marguerite Richards
2024/10/22
In this episode, we sit down with Marguerite Richards, editor of The Ordinary Chaos of Being Human, an anthology of personal stories from around the world. Marguerite opens up about her love for helping writers bring their visions to life, the intimate relationship between editor and author, and the power of memoir in understanding our shared humanity. We also explore themes of identity, home, and connection across cultures. Listen in for an inspiring conversation about storytelling and the human experience.
Learn more about Marguerite's work at margueriterichards.com.
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The Legacy of Qawwali with Bilal Chishty
2024/10/08
Join us as we journey into the heart of Qawwali with Bilal Chishty, a descendent of the great Chishti Sufi lineage and a musician devoted to preserving this sacred art form. In this episode, Bilal shares his stories of learning under Ustad Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, reflects on the history of Qawwali, and discusses the delicate balance between maintaining tradition and embracing modernity. We explore the profound spiritual power of Sufi music and Bilal’s mission to keep this timeless tradition alive.
Listen in for an inspiring conversation on music, mysticism, and the search for divine love.
Follow Bilal’s work on Instagram @dhruvsangarimusic, or listen to his music on Spotify by searching Dhruv Sangari.
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Gardens of the Soul: Emma Clark on the Sacred Art of Islamic Gardens
2024/09/24
In this episode of This Being Human we sit down with Emma Clark, an expert in Islamic garden design, to explore her journey from a childhood surrounded by English gardens to her spiritual awakening through Islamic art and Sufism. Emma reflects on her time at the Royal College of Art, where she studied under the renowned Keith Critchlow, who introduced her to the beauty and meaning within Islamic art. She discusses how Sufism became her path to Islam, how it transformed her understanding of beauty and the natural world, and how she uses her designs to reflect paradise on Earth.
Learn more about Emma’s work and her philosophy of garden design at emma-clark.com
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Feels like I’ve come home.
As a podcast junky, i am so impressed with this series. The topics are thought-provoking, the host is studied & the format is smooth. What a joy. Than...
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Finally....
....a podcast in a league of its own available to consume knowledge of the perspectives that have been hidden waiting to be revealed and embraced. Tha...
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Thanks for your excellent work
Excellent work you guys doing keep it up and thanks a lot. Thanks again
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I love it
Thanks to Amal Al-Tareb for recommending this podcast. I just listened the welcome episode and I can tell this is going to be one of my most favorite ...
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Alakhira 2021/01/27
Captivating and Engrossing
The podcast provides a window into Muslim life in all of its creativity and humanity. It felt more like a fireside conversation than an interview, muc...
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blah_Mehdi 2021/01/26
Amazing!
Sidi Abdul Rehman is a force! Definitely check this out if you’re looking for something spiritual, insightful, and relevant to our moment!