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Welcome to season 6 of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! In this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, Martha Dorris talks with Mark Forman about the evolution of digital government and e-government initiatives, with a focus on the groundbreaking Quicksilver project of the early 2000s. Mark shares how Quicksilver identified 24 priority initiatives across four portfolios to improve service delivery and reduce transaction costs—and what he would do differently if leading similar efforts today. Drawing from his experience leading the 2001 Quicksilver digital transformation initiative, Mark discusses building a cross-agency task force of seasoned government reformers, navigating collaboration and funding challenges, and ensuring long-term sustainability.  Together, Martha and Mark explore the ongoing burden of government transactions, the complexities of organizing services around a citizen-centric model, and the lessons still shaping government CX today. The conversation concludes with Mark’s vision for “New Federalism 2.0” and how better technology integration could transform citizen services. Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, host Martha Dorris sits down with a distinguished panel of leaders in customer experience and government service delivery: MaryAnn Monroe, MaximusAiris Gill, DeloitteCrystal Philcox, Philcox ConsultingLee Becker, MedalliaThe group characterizes today’s environment as “codified, fragile, and accelerating”—noting strong policy alignment around CX but ongoing staffing and capacity challenges. They highlight the continued commitment to CX across administrations, from the Government Performance and Results Act to the current Customer Experience Executive Order. Key topics include: Modern legislation and initiatives shaping service delivery and the need for integrated governanceThe importance of design-driven approaches, along with AI and automation—including the new America by Design Executive OrderPreparing the government workforce for rapidly evolving technologiesWhy starting with the customer and working backwards leads to better, more effective servicesA concise, forward-looking conversation on what it takes to deliver modern, customer-centered government services. The following policies and legislation were discussed. 21st Century Integrated Digital Experience Act, December 2018 Government Services Delivery Improvement Act, January 4, 2025 Executive Order 14179, Removing Barriers to American Leadership in Artificial Intelligence, January 23, 2025 Section 280 of A-11, Managing Customer Experience and Improving Service Delivery, 2025  Executive Order 14058, Transforming Federal Customer Experience and Service Delivery To Rebuild Trust in Government (December 13, 2021) OMB Memorandum M-23-22, Delivering a Digital-First Public Experience (September 23, 2023) Executive Order 14338, Improving Service through Design, August 21, 2025 Harnessing GenAI to Elevate the Citizen Experience, Nascio, September 25, 2025  Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, Martha Dorris sits down with Frank Bisignano, Commissioner of the Social Security Administration (SSA) and newly appointed Chief Executive Officer of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Commissioner Bisignano shares his remarkable career journey, from leading major financial institutions to overseeing operations during the 9/11 attacks, and how those experiences shaped his approach to public service. In his new dual roles at SSA and the IRS, he underscores his commitment to modernization, technology, and customer experience, focusing on how to effectively lead two of the largest organizations that touch nearly every American. Throughout the conversation, he discusses his management philosophy, the importance of technology as an enabler, and his dedication to employee growth and development. He also reflects on his recent letter marking the 90th anniversary of the SSA, highlighting the agency’s modernization priorities and renewed focus on serving the public. The discussion explores the Digital First agenda at SSA, which aims to enable 200 million Americans to transact digitally, while still ensuring that services remain accessible by phone and through field offices for those who need them. Tune in to hear more about: His perspective on the depth and diversity of SSA’s customersHow he measures success in modern government service deliveryKey improvements and successes already underway at SSAIt was an honor to speak with Commissioner Bisignano, stay tuned, he’s already requested a follow-up conversation in six months! Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode, Martha Dorris sits down with Marina Fox, former lead of GSA’s Digital Analytics Program (DAP) and one of the 2025 Service to the Citizen® Award winners, to explore how data and persistence transformed how government understands, and improves, digital services. From her early career in data analytics to launching analytics.usa.gov, Marina shares how she built one of the most impactful digital initiatives in government, helping agencies use real-time data to design faster, simpler, and more transparent online experiences. Highlights from the episode: Building the foundation: How DAP unified fragmented web analytics and gave agencies consistent, actionable insights for the first time.Scaling impact: With limited resources, Marina’s team brought Google Analytics to 6,000 federal websites, creating the largest GA account in the world.Driving transparency: The launch of analytics.usa.gov gave the public access to real-time government web traffic, turning data into a model for open government.Insights that matter: From USPS tracking to NASA’s data portals, DAP revealed what citizens value most and helped agencies prioritize improvements.A new chapter: As Director of Digital Solutions at TechSur Solutions, Marina continues helping agencies harness data, AI, and cloud to deliver better digital experiences.Why it matters: Marina’s story is a masterclass in leading digital transformation through collaboration, community-building, and data-driven design. Her work reminds us that when government embraces analytics, it doesn’t just measure success, it creates it. Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, host Martha Dorris sits down with Christopher Mannozzi, Director of Performance Management, and Jim Schaefer, Director of Surveys at the Department of Veterans Affairs’ Veterans Health Administration (VHA). Together, they lead the Survey of Healthcare Experiences of Patients (SHEP) program, which is transforming how the VA listens to and improves care for veterans. The conversation explores how SHEP: Uses surveys to capture veterans’ experiences across all types of careAnalyzes data to highlight what’s working well and pinpoint opportunities for improvementLeverages automation and monthly reports to deliver fast, actionable insightsThey also share what’s ahead for the program, including: Enabling veterans to complete surveys directly from their phonesComparing VA care to community care to better understand the full patient journeyExploring AI and natural language processing for deeper analysisProviding training to staff on turning feedback into meaningful actionAt its core, SHEP’s mission is simple yet powerful: to improve healthcare quality and satisfaction, helping veterans live healthier lives. By surfacing common challenges and spreading best practices, the team is driving positive change across VA facilities nationwide. Congratulations to the SHEP team on receiving the 2024 Service to the Citizen® Award! Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, Martha Dorris sits down with Loree Levy, Deputy Director of California’s Employment Development Department (EDD), to talk about their shared passion for transforming how the public experiences government services. With 24 years in state government and a background in television journalism, Loree reflects on her career journey and the lessons she’s carried into leadership. Together, they explore how EDD has embraced customer experience practices through modernization efforts that include: establishing a dedicated customer experience divisionsimplifying application processes for unemployment and disability insuranceimplementing technologies like chatbots to improve access and responsivenessLoree emphasizes the importance of an enterprise-wide, customer-centric approach that bridges communications and IT while breaking down silos across departments. She highlights how leadership, community practices, and ongoing collaboration are essential to creating better public service experiences. This thoughtful conversation offers valuable insights into the challenges and opportunities of bringing CX into state government at scale. Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of The CX Tipping Point, Martha Dorris sits down with Avery Muse, former Executive Director for IT Operations at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), to explore how he brought customer experience (CX) and employee experience (EX) together as a “Total Experience” at HHS. With a career spanning defense, law enforcement, and health, Avery shares unique insights on service transformation in government. The conversation dives into his implementation of fusion teams, experience-level agreements, and a unified support portal, as well as efforts to modernize physical support locations and integrate omni-channel technology. Martha and Avery also discuss the critical role of leadership buy-in, the link between employee engagement and service delivery, and best practices for measuring both operational and experience metrics. Check out Avery’s recent NextGov Op-Ed on Total Experience, and connect with him at [email protected] or visit themusegroup.net. Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of the CX Tipping Point Podcast, Martha Dorris sits down with James McCament, Chief Digital Transformation Officer, and Janet Pence, Customer Experience Lead at U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), to explore how CBP is transforming its service delivery, operations, and customer experience through innovation and technology. Fresh off being named the 2025 Service to the Citizen Government Executive of the Year, James shares insights into CBP’s complex mission, from border security and trade facilitation to counterterrorism, and how digital transformation and AI are playing a critical role. Janet adds her perspective from decades of experience at CBP, including leading customer experience and trade support efforts. Together, they discuss: CBP’s Experience Office and human-centered service modelAutomation that cut 3+ million customer burden hours in FY2024AI-driven tools that detect contraband and speed up processingSuccession planning and upskilling across CBP’s vast workforceStrong cross-agency partnerships, including with the FDAPublic reaction insights and the future of digital governmentThis episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at one of the largest law enforcement agencies in the country—and how it's innovating for a safer, smarter, and more customer-focused future. Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In Episode 58 of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, Kshemendra Paul shared his journey from Silicon Valley tech entrepreneur to senior federal executive, highlighting his leadership roles at the Department of Justice, the Office of Management and Budget, and the Department of Veterans Affairs. His work focused on improving government performance through data, fraud prevention, and information sharing—most notably with the Recovery Act and the national suspicious activity reporting initiative. The conversation emphasized the role of data as a strategic asset, especially in fraud reduction, internal controls, and improving services for veterans. Kshemendra advocated for better enterprise-level data use, identity verification tools, and integrated platforms to support transparency, efficiency, and trust in government. He also discussed the success of the National Information Exchange Model (NIEM) project in NYC, which used predictive analytics to identify at-risk youth, and called for stronger federal data leadership, including the establishment of a Federal Chief Data Analytics Officer. Finally, Kshemendra shared his upcoming retirement plans, a renewed focus on advocacy, and personal reflections—including his passion for hiking, skiing, and family.  Kshemenda is available on LinkedIn or via email at [email protected] Kshemendra Paul is a seasoned leader, recognized for his pioneering results and solutions using data,  architecture, and information sharing and safeguarding to improve government on behalf of the American people. As a widely lauded executive, Kshemendra routinely applied his unique perspective to addressing complex challenges, contributing to reducing risk, and enhancing operational efficiency, effectiveness, and integrity. His insights explore how organizations can leverage data for impactful decision-making, improved outcomes, and greater protection of stakeholders. His focus now is policy advocacy. He also serves on boards, and advises organizations and leaders. Recent Op-Ed: "Moving Federal Enterprise Risk Management Beyond Compliance Theater" – FedScoop, April 2025 Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, we spoke with Marcy Jacobs, the first Chief Digital Experience Officer for the State of Maryland. Marcy goes into the significance of user-centered design and the holistic approach needed to improve digital experiences, particularly in government and consulting sectors.  She discusses her journey in digital government, from starting out as a graphic and web designer to leading digital transformation efforts at USDS and the Department of Veterans Affairs. Marcy explores challenges, solutions, and strategies for integrating digital services, enhancing user research, and leveraging AI for better customer experiences. Key Takeaways: Insights on prioritizing user needs over technology and shifting from an inside-out to an outside-in approach.Importance of understanding the full user journey.How project management and product leadership require technical depth, leadership buy-in, and measurable outcomes to avoid reinforcing ineffective processes.Breaking down silos between digital services and CX teams to ensure data-driven, actionable solutions rather than just measurement.The role of user research in improving services and the potential of AI when applied strategically. Join us as we uncover how digital services can transform government experiences and why a human-first approach is critical to success! Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, we’re joined by Steve Krauss formerly at the U.S. Office of Personnel Management—recipient of the 2024 Service to the Citizen Award—to unpack the complexities of HR IT modernization in the federal government. Steve shares candid insights into the inefficiencies of the current HR IT ecosystem and underscores the urgent need for improved coordination, data interoperability, and shared services to streamline operations and cut costs. He also explores forward-looking solutions such as pooled hiring across agencies and the collaborative efforts underway with major federal agencies and the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to advance modernization and elevate the customer experience. But the conversation goes beyond IT. They dive into the broader challenges surrounding federal hiring, agency funding for modernization initiatives, and the critical role of stakeholder engagement in driving lasting change. They discuss the funding barriers many agencies face, the strategic support OPM offers—including the use of the Technology Modernization Fund—and the importance of conducting a comprehensive inventory of federal contact centers. Together, they explore what it takes to lead through complexity, emphasizing the value of strong governance, smart incentive structures, and the impact of the recently enacted Government Service Delivery Improvement Act in shaping a more responsive and citizen-centered government. Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, we spoke to Alexis Bonnell, the Chief Information Officer of the Air Force Research Laboratory, to explore her inspiring journey from her early career in tech to becoming a leader in government innovation. Alexis shares how empathy, curiosity, and clarity have been her guiding principles for driving change and fostering innovation within complex organizations. Alexis was a 2024 Service to the Citizen Award Winner. We delve into the challenges of implementing artificial intelligence, not just as a tool for efficiency but as a way to empower teams and elevate their work. Alexis walks us through a fascinating four-stage process to help people adapt to AI, from the initial "Tada!" moment of excitement to the "Ho-hum" stage of seamless integration. Listeners will learn about the importance of recognizing contributions in teams, the power of positive reinforcement, and Alexis's unique practice of gifting custom shoes to women in government as a token of appreciation for their hard work. The episode also highlights the innovative strategies Alexis is employing to tackle inefficiencies in government processes. From conducting "toil tours" to identify and eliminate waste, to promoting a bold "kill bonus" initiative that rewards stopping unnecessary tasks, Alexis shares actionable insights on creating a culture of progress over activity. Finally, we discuss the human side of AI and change management, exploring how leaders can build trust, empower risk-takers, and shift organizational mindsets from critics to champions. Key Takeaways: How empathy and curiosity fuel innovation in government.The four stages of adapting to AI and its potential to revolutionize work.Strategies for eliminating inefficiencies and fostering a culture of action.Recognizing and rewarding team contributions to drive morale and impact.Stay tuned for a thought-provoking discussion that bridges the gap between technology, people, and purpose. Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, we spoke to Vashon Citizen, the Acting Deputy Chief in the Office of Access and Information Services, External Affairs in the US Citizenship and Immigration Service within the Department of Homeland Security and 2024 Service to the Citizen Award winner. We explored the efforts that USCIS has made in improving public service delivery through a series of customer experience (CX) enhancements. USCIS recognized the importance of providing a modern, user-friendly experience for customers navigating the immigration journey. This commitment led to the implementation of innovative self-service tools aimed at resolving common inquiries and improving accessibility. Vashon described their key achievements which included: Text Ahead Feature which was introduced to notify customers before contacting them, reducing missed calls and improving communication efficiency.Online Change of Address Tool which simplified the process of updating addresses across USCIS systems, significantly reducing manual requests and saving operational costs.Appointment Web Form which enabled customers to request and reschedule appointments online, reducing wait times and administrative burdens.myProgress Tool which provides personalized case status information, accessed over 250,000 times daily, enhancing transparency and reducing the need for phone inquiries.Digital Transformation of H-1B Program which digitized the entire lifecycle of H-1B applications, streamlining processes for stakeholders and improving collaboration.These improvements have collectively enhanced efficiency, reduced customer frustrations, and provided a more consistent and responsive service experience.  Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, we’re joined by Angela Render, Branch Chief for IRS Content Strategy and a 2024 Service to the Citizen Award Winner. Angela dives into how the IRS is transforming its digital presence to elevate taxpayer experiences. She offers an inside look at her team’s groundbreaking efforts to support first-time filers, utilizing data, human-centered design, and strategic content updates. Gain insights into the challenges of managing a website with over 3 billion annual views, the creative use of personas like "Leslie," and the power of collaboration in driving meaningful change. This episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about CX innovation and the future of government services! Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form

In this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast, Martha Dorris sits down with a panel of seasoned experts, customer experience (CX) practitioners, and thought leaders to explore their perspectives on what CX truly means. Martha describes CX as “a commitment to continual improvement, designed to create efficient and effective government services that align with the agency’s mission and address the needs of its customers.” To set the stage, we provide a brief overview of CX’s evolution in government over the past two administrations and discuss expectations for its future trajectory. Our guests include: Dan Barrett, GuidehouseLee Becker, MedalliaAmanda Chavez, NuAxisMaryAnn Monroe, Maximus Federal ServicesMary Schwarz, ICFTune in to gain insights on: The maturity of CX within the federal governmentChallenges and successes in implementing CX strategiesGovernance structures that support CX initiativesThe intersection of Customer Experience (CX), Digital Experience (DX), and Employee Experience (EX)We also share actionable recommendations for the next administration to continue advancing the quality of government services for American citizens. Thank you for listening to this episode of The CX Tipping Point Podcast! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners! Stay Connected: Follow us on social media: LinkedIn: @DorrisConsultingInternational Twitter: @DorrisConsultng Facebook: @DCInternational Resources Mentioned: Citizen Services Newsletter 2024 Service to the Citizen Awards Nomination Form