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Our desire is to sit and chop it up with anyone from best selling authors to successful entrepreneurs and get a sense of the highs and lows of their journey. We want to delve past the surface to see how their culture, faith, career choices, and mental health have brought them to their current destination and broach topics that will provoke both thought and action in listeners.

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Always Ready for War: The Fight Response in High Performers
2026/10/22
Time Stamps01:10 -The 5 stress responses: where fight fits after fawn and flight02:30 -James 1:19: swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath03:00 -What the fight response looks like in high performers05:15 -How the fight response shows up in men 06:45 - How the fight response shows up in women08:00 -The root causes: "Who told you that you had to fight?"10:00 - Solution 1: Catch the surge before you swing11:15 - Solution 2: Ask what the anger is guarding12:15 -Solution 3: Practice strength under control13:30 - Join Unprogrammed on Skool and work with Jahmaal Key takeaways The fight response is your nervous system deciding a threat can be beaten. In leaders, it often gets rewarded and mistaken for being "direct."In men, fight often shows up as open anger, dominance, and needing to win, because anger was the one emotion they were allowed to show.In women, fight often goes underground: control, cold competence, sharp criticism, and anger turned inward.The core belief: "If I'm not in control, I'm not safe."Three roots: a home where you had to defend yourself, respect that had to be earned in combat, and unprocessed hurt underneath the anger.Three solutions: catch the surge before you swing, ask what the anger is guarding, and practice strength under control through letting go and repair.Join Unprogrammed Unprogrammed is Jahmaal's newest community on Skool for high performers ready to break old programming: the fight, the flight, the fawn, and the beliefs underneath them. Live masterclasses, Q&A with Jahmaal, and a community of leaders doing the same work. Join here: https://getunprogrammed.com/unprogrammed      Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Why Can’t I Relax? The Flight Response in High Achievers
2026/10/15
Being busy can look like ambition, but sometimes it’s a way to avoid what we don’t want to feel. In this week’s episode of Listen Then Speak, Jahmaal explores the flight response in high performers. It can show up as overwork, perfectionism, constant planning, or always moving on to the next goal. Jahmaal looks at how these patterns can take shape, how they may show up differently for men and women, and why staying busy doesn’t always bring the rest we’re looking for.   Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Intro0:59 - The flight response and high performers2:46 - When busyness looks like drive4:13 - How flight can show up in men and women6:29 - Where the pattern begins8:21 - The connection between burnout and unprocessed pain8:52 - Three ways to start changing the pattern9:38 - Practicing stillness in small doses11:24 - Facing what you’ve been avoiding12:14 - Episode wrap-up13:07 - Jahmaal’s new community for high performers14:04 - A preview of the next episode: the fight response Successful on the outside but exhausted in private? Explore working with Jahmaal. Complete the short qualification process to see whether his coaching is a fit.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-coach-pod  CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ListenThenSpeakPod   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
How to Stop People Pleasing at Work: The Fawn Response in High Achievers
2026/10/01
Sometimes what looks like being dependable is really a stress response in disguise. In this solo episode, Jahmaal unpacks the fawn response and why high performers can spend years being rewarded for patterns that are actually rooted in people-pleasing, fear, and the need to keep everyone else comfortable. He gets into how those patterns take hold, why they can be so hard to recognize, and what it looks like to start interrupting them in real life. It’s a conversation about learning to stop treating other people’s approval like a requirement for your own peace.   Episode Highlights:  0:00 - Intro0:25 - When your body says no but you still say yes1:05 - Introducing the five stress responses4:20 - Fight, flight, freeze, flop, and fawn5:37 - What the fawn response actually is6:01 - Why fawning can look like excellence7:03 - Signs of fawning in high performers8:50 - How fawning can show up differently in women10:47 - How fawning can show up differently in men13:18 - The belief underneath people-pleasing14:21 - Where the fawn response can begin16:09 - Becoming “the responsible one” too early17:06 - When faith, culture, or family encourage self-erasure18:42 - Three ways to start breaking the pattern18:52 - Create a gap before saying yes19:52 - Trace the belief back to its source20:56 - Practice small, safe disappointments23:14 - What healthy boundaries actually mean Do you find yourself saying, “I need to get out of my own way”? Watch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt and overworking.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL: LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ListenThenSpeakPod  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
From Fear to Faith: Finding Courage in a Divided World w/ Aaron Graham
2026/09/17
Pastor Aaron Graham joins me to talk about his new book, Unshakeable Faith, and why writing it required him to confront his own fear of conflict. Aaron is the founder and lead pastor of The District Church, a multicultural congregation in Washington, DC, representing more than 80 nations. He has spent over 15 years pastoring in the nation’s capital and holds a master’s degree in public policy from the Harvard Kennedy School. Our conversation centers on what happens when grief, fear, and disappointment go unprocessed. We talk about the doubts that can emerge after a painful loss, the church’s response to racial injustice, and the pressure to choose a political side rather than remain grounded in your convictions. Aaron also shares why justice requires more than spare change, how online outrage affects our interior lives, and what it looks like to hold onto both conviction and compassion in a deeply divided world. Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Meet Pastor Aaron Graham 4:02 - Why Aaron wrote Unshakeable Faith 8:12 - The deeper emotion underneath fear 10:40 - Faith, doubt, and life-changing loss 12:34 - How unprocessed grief can become anxiety 19:22 - Deconstruction, racial justice, and the church 27:19 - Why justice requires more than spare change 30:21 - Connecting personal grief with meaningful action 38:21 - Cancel culture and divisive online voices 40:41 - Maintaining relationships across differences 47:36 - The courage to be fully known and loved  Do you find yourself saying, “I need to get out of my own way”? Watch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt, and overworking.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL: LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/  Interested in learning more about Aaron Graham?  Book: Unshakable Faith: How to Stand Firm in a Culture of Lies.Personal Website: aarongrahamdc.comChurch Website: districtchurch.org instagram.com/DistrictChurchhttps://www.aarongrahamdc.com/difficultconversations    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Wise as Serpents: How to Deal With the Snakes in Your Life
2026/09/09
Why "just cut them off" is the wrong first moveHere's the contrarian part, and it's the part most people skip. Every piece of advice online tells you the same thing: identify the toxic person, go no-contact, block, delete, done. And sometimes distance is exactly right. But cutting someone off doesn't answer the harder question, the one underneath the wound: Who told you that you had to keep the snake fed? If you keep ending up with the same viper in a different body: new job, same manipulator; new relationship, same betrayal; the problem isn't your bad luck. It's a belief you've been carrying that says your worth is measured by how much you'll tolerate. You call it being loyal. You call it being the bigger person. You call it keeping the peace. But high-functioning codependency wears respectable clothes, and it will keep you seated at the table of someone who's already decided you're the meal. You can remove every snake in your yard. If you never ask why the door keeps getting left open, another one is already on the way. How to spot a snake before it strikes Discernment isn't paranoia. It's paying attention to patterns instead of performances. In the episode, Jahmaal walks through the tells:  They're fluent in your weaknesses and forgetful of your worth. A snake studies where you're soft, and files it for later.They move differently in public than in private. Psalm 140:3 talks about tongues sharp as a serpent's. Watch what the tongue does when the audience leaves.Confusion is the residue. You leave conversations doubting your own memory. That fog isn't an accident, it's the venom.They reward your silence and punish your honesty. In a healthy relationship, the truth brings you closer. Around a snake, the truth gets you bitten.If you've been calling this "just a difficult person," this section will cost you your comfortable label. Good. Clarity is the first mercy. The wisdom to deal with toxic people (personally and professionally)Personally, the snake counts on your history. "But we go way back." "But that's my family." "But they were there for me once." Loyalty is a virtue, until it becomes the very thing that keeps you kneeling. Professionally, the snake counts on your ambition. You don't confront it because you need the reference, the promotion, the peace of not "making it a thing." So you swallow it. And swallowed venom doesn't disappear; it becomes burnout, resentment, and a body that starts sending you the bill. The wisdom Jahmaal offers isn't a script for a comeback. It's a shift in posture: stop managing the snake and start leading yourself. You don't need them to change for you to stop bleeding. The 3 moves: how to deal with the snakes in your lifeThis is the heart of the episode: three moves, in order. Skip one and the whole thing collapses. 1. Take inventoryYou can't confront what you refuse to count. Get honest about who's actually in your circle and what they cost you. Not who you hoped they'd be; who they've shown you they are, on repeat. Write the names. Notice how your body feels before you see them, not just after. Inventory isn't cruelty; it's stewardship. You can't protect a garden you've never walked. 2. Take ownershipHere's where it gets holy and uncomfortable. The snake is responsible for the bite. But you are responsible for the access. Ownership means asking the "Who told you?" questions: Who told you that keeping the peace was your job? Who told you love means unlimited access? Who told you that saying no makes you the villain? You didn't choose the first snake. But somewhere along the way you learned to leave the gate open, and what you learned, you can unlearn. 3. Make a planWisdom without a plan is just a nice feeling that fades by Monday. Decide (before the next encounter) what you will and won't allow. What the boundary is. What you'll say. What access gets revoked, what stays, and what the consequence is when it's crossed. A boundary you haven't rehearsed is a boundary you'll abandon under pressure. Put it in writing. Say it out loud. Build the fence before you need it. Take inventory. Take ownership. Make a plan. That's how you stop being surprised, and start being sovereign over your own peace. Key takeaways:Being wise as a serpent isn't about becoming one - it's about refusing to be its next meal.Cutting people off treats the symptom. Healing the belief that left the gate open treats the cause.Discernment reads patterns, not performances. Trust the residue, not the résumé.The snake owns the bite. You own the access.A boundary you haven't planned is a boundary you'll break.Frequently asked questionsHow do you deal with a toxic person you can't avoid, like a coworker or family member? When you can't create distance, you create structure. Take inventory of exactly how they operate, take ownership of the access you've been granting, and make a specific plan for what you will and won't engage with. You manage the terms of contact instead of managing their moods. Is it un-Christian/or unkind to set boundaries with difficult people? No. Jesus set boundaries constantly; He withdrew, He confronted, He named hypocrisy directly. Being innocent as a dove speaks to your motives; being wise as a serpent speaks to your discernment. Boundaries aren't a lack of love. They're love with a spine. How do I know if I'm the problem, not them? Ownership cuts both ways. If the same conflict follows you into every room, that's worth examining honestly. The difference is pattern and posture: a snake studies your weakness and profits from your pain. A healthy person, corrected, adjusts. Take inventory of the fruit over time, not a single bad day. What if setting a boundary costs me the job or the relationship? Then it was already costing you more than you realized (just quietly). This episode isn't about blowing up your life; it's about deciding, on purpose, what your peace is worth before someone else decides for you.  Your next step: stop feeding the snakes for goodWatch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt, and overworking.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode If this episode named something you've been carrying, share it with the one person who needs to hear it, and leave a review so it reaches the next leader who's tired of getting bitten.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Why Rejection Is Protection: When God Closes a Door, Stay Out of the Room
2026/08/31
There's One Line That Changes EverythingSometimes the door didn't close on you. It closed for you. If you're a high-achiever who's been taught that every "no" is just a "not yet" you can grind your way past, this episode is your permission slip to do something your ambition has never allowed: stay excluded. Because the burnout you're carrying? It's rarely the workload. It's the chasing, the emotional overtime you're logging trying to earn your way back into a room God already walked you out of. What You'll Learn in This EpisodeWhy burnout is almost never about doing too much — and what's actually draining youThe difference between being rejected and being removed (and why it matters)4 real-life examples of rejection being protection in disguiseWhat Scripture says about closed doors, betrayal, and repositioningThe one question that turns exclusion into freedom instead of exhaustionRejection Isn't the End of Your Story: It's the RepositioningHere's the pattern most high-performers miss: rejection is often protection wearing a mask you don't recognize yet. You keep knocking. You keep over-explaining. You keep proving yourself to people who already decided. And you call it perseverance, but your body is calling it burnout. The truth is, when you keep trying to re-enter rooms you were excluded from, you don't just waste energy. You override the very protection that exclusion was built to give you. "You weren't rejected. You were removed. And there's a difference, because man looks at the door, but God looks at what's on the other side of it." Ready to Pull the Root Out?If this episode named something you've been living, the exhaustion of trying to break back into a room God locked for your good, don't sit with that revelation alone. Watch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt, and overworking.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
The Blessing Buried in the Betrayal: How to Recover From Burnout That Rest Won't Fix
2026/08/22
Burnout Isn't a Workload Problem - It's a Betrayal ProblemThe exhaustion that sleep doesn't touch and a vacation only reschedules isn't about your calendar. It's about a betrayal you've been staying busy enough to avoid feeling. Somebody crossed you; a partner, a mentor, a company you bled for, a parent. Instead of grieving it, you got useful. You made yourself indispensable so you'd never be discardable again. That isn't ambition. It's a survival strategy in business casual. Key insight: Burnout in leaders is rarely about doing too much. It's about doing too much for people who wouldn't do the same for you, while some part of you knew it the whole time. Betrayal Is Not Destruction - It's RevelationGenesis 50:20 gives the whole framework. Joseph tells the brothers who sold him: "You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good." He doesn't deny the harm. He names the intent, and refuses to let their intent write the final sentence. Betrayal doesn't build the crack. It reveals the crack that was already there - in the relationship, the agreement, or the story you were told about your own worth. Underneath the Scripture is the neuroscience: your nervous system logged the betrayal as a threat and went into protection - over-function, over-give, say yes when you mean no. That pattern is high-functioning codependency, and it's the number one accelerant of burnout in high-achievers. What You'll Learn in This EpisodeWhy executive burnout is usually a betrayal problem, not a workload problemThe difference between betrayal as destruction and betrayal as revelationHow high-functioning codependency and over-giving accelerate burnout in high-achieversThe origin belief driving your disordered boundaries - and how to find itThe six-step L.I.S.T.E.N. Method for moving through betrayalConcrete personal and professional steps to reclaim your energy and worthKey TakeawaysBurnout that rest won't fix is often unprocessed betrayal.Betrayal reveals a pre-existing crack; it doesn't create it.Over-functioning is a survival response, not a personality trait.Healing is internal — it never requires the other person's apology.The L.I.S.T.E.N. Method works the root belief, not just the symptomReady to Work the Root?Explore working with Jahmaal. Complete the short qualification process to see whether his coaching is a fit.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-coach-pod Listen deeply. Speak boldly. Do the work. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Why You Can't Accept a Compliment -- And What It's Doing to Your Brain Chemistry
2026/08/13
Someone praises your work and your hands are up before they finish the sentence. "It was a team thing." "It was nothing." You think you're being humble. In this solo episode, executive coach and certified counselor Jahmaal Marshall takes you underneath the reflex — to the subconscious origin belief that's been writing your brain chemistry, driving your over-functioning, and manufacturing a burnout no vacation ever seems to fix. This is root-cause work, not surface-level advice. If you've ever felt successful on the outside and quietly depleted on the inside, this one's the mirror. What You'll Learn in This EpisodeWhy a compliment can feel like a threat - the nervous-system reason your body braces, squirms, and deflects when you're praisedThe core belief hiding underneath the deflection: "I'm only worthy when I'm useful" - and where it got installedHow high-functioning codependency and people-pleasing keep you running a reward system that can spend but can't receiveThe chemistry of burnout: why nothing you accomplish is ever allowed to countEmotional neglect of self, masked as empathy - the survival radar you were taught to call a giftWhy you can't behavior-modify your way out of a belief-level pattern, and what actually moves it at the rootFor HR, Founders & Talent Acquisition LeadersThe way you frame yourself isn't private, it's a broadcast. Deflect your value and you train the room to value you exactly as little as you value yourself. Fix the belief, and your framing changes on its own; and so does how you're perceived, paid, and promoted. That's not confidence you fake. That's alignment. Take the Next StepIf you find yourself saying, “I need to get out of my own way”? Watch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt and overworking.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode → Visit: listenthenspeak.com    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Frozen Grief and the Nervous System: The Nolan Wells Episode | Listen Then Speak
2026/08/04
In this solo episode of Listen Then Speak, Jahmaal Marshall takes the national heartbreak surrounding the death of 18-year-old Nolan Well,  a young man from Ocean Springs, Mississippi who went missing on the Fourth of July and whose cause of death remains officially undetermined, and uses it to name something most of us are carrying and can't explain: frozen grief. Frozen grief is what happens when a loss arrives with no ending attached. No answers. No closure. No all-clear. And when the mind can't file a loss as finished, the nervous system stays braced, producing the chronic stress and quiet burnout that so many high-achievers have been mislabeling as a personality flaw. This is a conversation about grief and the nervous system, the weight of grieving under a media spotlight, and for the parents (and influencers) listening  a direct word about what actually keeps our children safe. Not the ethnicity of the people around them. Their character. And it's a word for every family, of every ethnicity. What You'll Learn in This EpisodeWhat frozen grief (ambiguous loss) is, and why unanswered loss won't processHow grief affects the nervous system,  and why "the unknown" is what burns you outWhy grief and burnout are the same nervous-system story, not two different problemsHow too much media coverage can re-traumatize you, and how to stay informed without being consumedWhy character, not ethnicity, is what parents (and influencers) should be teaching their kids to read, referencing both Nolan Wells and Shanquella RobinsonHow to begin melting a frozen grief without waiting on a closure that may never comeEpisode Breakdown:1. Grief That Has No EndingJahmaal opens by naming Nolan Wells with dignity and setting the frame for the whole episode: grief was designed to move through you, but grief without answers doesn't move,  it freezes. This isn't a true-crime breakdown. It's a look at what happens inside a body, a family, and a community when a loss shows up with no ending attached. 2. What Frozen Grief Actually IsA plain-language teaching on ambiguous loss (grief without closure) and why the brain literally cannot mark an unresolved loss as "over." When the questions outnumber the answers, you don't get to mourn. You brace. Grief and vigilance run in the same body at the same time. 3. Why the Unknown Burns You OutThe nervous-system mechanics: how the body's two protective modes (rev up and shut down) run simultaneously in frozen grief, why a system built to survive a threat was never built to stay activated for weeks, and why burnout is what happens when the body never gets an all-clear. Includes a word on how chronic, race-related stress adds an older grief underneath a fresh one. 4. The Weight of the CoverageHolding two truths at once: public attention can force answers a grieving family deserves - and endless replay of painful details reads to your nervous system as a fresh threat every time. The difference between being informed and being consumed, plus a disciplined way to hold the racial history in the room without letting speculation take over. 5. A Word to the ParentsJahmaal brings in the death of Shanquella Robinson to disarm the wrong lesson. Nolan died among people who didn't look like him; Shanquella died among people who did. Same skin didn't save her; different skin didn't doom him. The takeaway for every parent, of every ethnicity: teach your children to read character, not skin. Anchored in Scripture - "Man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart." (1 Samuel 16:7) 6. This One Is for All of UsFrozen grief doesn't check a box. This closing movement widens the frame to every family inside this story and every listener carrying a loss that never got its ending, landing on a simple truth: weep with those who weep. Still waiting on a closure that is never coming? Watch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt and overworking.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL MARSHALLWebsite: https://listenthenspeak.com/ Listen deeply. Speak boldly. Do the work.   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
When People Think They Can Afford to Lose You, They Mishandle You | A Solo Episode on Betrayal & Boundaries
2026/07/26
Your betrayal didn't catch God by surprise,  it came to reveal, not to destroy. In this solo episode of Listen Then Speak, executive coach and certified counselor Jahmaal Marshall breaks down what betrayal actually is: not the end of your story, but the moment the mask slips. If you're still waiting on closure that's never coming, still replaying the conversation, still mishandled and calling it love; this episode is the root work you've been avoiding. Jahmaal unpacks why when people believe they can afford to lose you, they will mishandle you, how to tell the difference between relationships meant to last and relationships that were only ever lessons, and why character is the great revelation of someone's heart. Then he draws the line most people never connect: how disordered boundaries lead directly to burnout, and the wise, faith-rooted way to guard your heart without walling off the people God is trying to send. Grounded in the Joseph narrative, Proverbs 4:23, and the subconscious-belief work at the core of the Listen Then Speak method, this is an episode about betrayal, boundaries, burnout, and finally closing the account on the closure you'll never receive. This episode is for you if: You're recovering from betrayal, a broken friendship, or the loss of a relationship you thought was permanentYou over-give to people who under-value you and can't figure out why you're exhaustedYou're stuck waiting for an apology, explanation, or closure that isn't comingYou keep repeating the same relational patterns and want to do the root work to stopYou lead at a high level but feel emotionally depleted behind the scenesPress play. Do the work. CHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS 00:00 — Cold open: the betrayal that broke your heart didn't break God's plan02:10 — Intro: why the loudest thing in your life is the story you tell yourself03:25 — It didn't catch God by surprise: Joseph, Judas & sovereignty over betrayal06:40 — Betrayal is revelation, not destruction (the X-ray principle)09:30 — When people think they can afford to lose you, they mishandle you12:45 — Some relationships last, some are lessons — and how to tell the difference15:10 — Disordered boundaries & the direct road to burnout18:20 — Wise ways to guard your heart (Proverbs 4:23 & the gate vs. the wall)21:30 — Closing the account on closure that never comes23:15 — Strong CTA + share the episodeKEY TAKEAWAYSBetrayal is information, not destruction. It doesn't create the fracture, it reveals the one that was already in the bone.People handle you according to the value they assign you. When someone believes your loss is affordable, they mishandle you.Not every relationship was assigned to be permanent. Some are meant to last; some are meant to teach. Stop forcing lessons into life sentences.Character is the reveal: pattern over potential. How someone behaves when honoring you costs them something tells you everything.Disordered boundaries fuel burnout. Over-functioning for people who under-value you is a slow leak that eventually empties you.Closure is a decision, not a gift. You can close the account yourself instead of waiting on a signature that never comes.Guard your heart with a gate, not a wall. Discernment grants access on evidence, not on hope.Successful on the outside but exhausted in private? Explore working with Jahmaal. Complete the short qualification process to see whether his coaching is a fit.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-coach-pod   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL MARSHALLLinkedIn: Connect and Follow HEREWebsite: https://listenthenspeak.com/Listen deeply. Speak boldly. Do the work. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
How to Increase Impact and Magnify Success with Brandee Brown
2026/07/02
Brandee Brown has built her life and work around one clear mission: helping people see, own, and magnify the greatness already inside them. In this episode of Listen Then Speak, Jahmaal sits down with Brandee Brown, founder of Magnify Success, for a conversation about resilience, leadership, loss, purpose, and the power of showing up for others. With over 30 years of experience in leadership, corporate strategy, and personal development, Brandee brings a deep understanding of what it takes to navigate change, overcome professional obstacles, and lead with integrity. She shares how her two decades at Comcast shaped her approach to professionalism, strategy, follow-through, and people-first leadership. She also opens up about the harder parts of her story, including childhood pain, personal loss, and the experiences that once made her feel muted. But this conversation is not just about what Brandee has been through. It is about what she has built from it. From being labeled a “happen maker” early in her career to creating Magnify Success, Brandee explains how her pain became part of her purpose, why connection is one of her greatest gifts, and how she helps leaders, brands, and communities step into rooms they may not have known were possible. This is a conversation about resilience, visibility, faith, community, and the kind of leadership that does more than talk. It makes things happen. Episode Highlights:0:00 - Intro2:15 - Brandee’s favorite genre of music4:02 - The care behind Brandee’s work5:52 - What her Comcast career taught her9:02 - Why follow-through matters10:16 - Becoming a “happen maker”12:20 - The leader who saw something in Brandee before she saw it herself13:11 - Brandee opens up about her early life17:10 - How pain became purpose21:29 - Navigating loss, transition, and leadership as a whole person26:38 - What Magnify Success is really about31:46 - Where to connect with Brandee32:47 - Closing thoughts Successful on the outside but exhausted in private? Explore working with Jahmaal. Complete the short qualification process to see whether his coaching is a fit.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-coach-pod CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/   Interested in learning more about Brandee? https://magnify-success.com/why-magnify-success/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandee-brown/ https://www.instagram.com/magnify.success/profilecard/?igsh=MXc2a25uN3BrdHpnaw%3D%3D Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
She Built a Top Earning Agency After a Major Life Setback — Brynne Krispin on What Nobody Tells You About Starting Over
2026/06/25
What if the thing that makes your brand work is the part you keep trying to polish out? I sat down with Brynne Krispin, founder and CEO of Cause Fokus, for a conversation about personal branding, perfectionism, self-trust, burnout, boundaries, and what it really takes to become visible without losing yourself in the process. Brynne shares how her own life cracking open forced her to rebuild from a place of alignment instead of scarcity, and how that season shaped the way she thinks about visibility, trust, and building a brand that can actually last. We talked about why people connect with what is real, why your “better way moment” matters, and why sustainable authority is not built by copying templates or chasing vanity metrics. If you are building a business, stepping into thought leadership, trying to grow a side project, or learning how to show up with more clarity and less fear, this conversation is for you. Episode Highlights:0:00 - Intro2:09 - Brynne’s favorite music and what it reveals about her work4:21 - Why perfectionism keeps people from building trust6:13 - Self-trust, mistakes, and learning as you go12:51 - Brynne’s story of rebuilding from survival mode18:11 - Breaking out of scarcity and choosing alignment21:45 - Finding your “better way moment”26:51 - Why a strong brand should repel the wrong people28:23 - How alignment shapes who you attract31:20 - Why brand work often goes deeper than content34:12 - Boundaries, health, and building something sustainable39:23 - How Cause Fokus helps leaders build authority online41:43 - Episode wrap-up and final thoughts Successful on the outside but exhausted in private? Explore working with Jahmaal. Complete the short qualification process to see whether his coaching is a fit.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-coach-pod   CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/   Interested in learning more about Brynne? Website: https://causefokus.com/ Join Brynne’s 4-week live cohort for introverts, behind-the-scenes experts, and deep thinkers who want to build real influence on LinkedIn thoughtfully.  https://cohort.causefokus.com/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
The Betrayal That Built You: Why Being Left Behind Might Be the Thing That Levels You Up
2026/06/07
Betrayal doesn't just hurt, it destabilizes. It disrupts your sleep, spikes your cortisol, and quietly convinces you that you can't move forward until the person who wronged you finally acknowledges what they did. But what if the closure you're waiting on was never going to come, and what if that's actually okay? What sounds like a Sunday school story is actually a masterclass in what happens when betrayal becomes a corridor instead of a dead end. In this episode: Why betrayal produces a genuine physiological stress response, and why that matters for high-achievers dealing with burnoutFour things betrayal does in people who refuse to let it be the final word (including one that can't be earned any other way)The internal narrative that keeps most people stagnant long after the betrayal itself is overWhat Joseph's response to his brothers in Genesis 50 reveals about processed pain, and why it's the frame for everythingThe intention of the betrayer does not determine the outcome of the betrayed. Referenced Scriptures Genesis 37, 39, 41, 50 Ready to stop circling the wound? Watch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt and overworking.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode If this episode hit someone in your life, send it to them. Someone you know is sitting in a pit right now waiting on closure that isn't coming. Be the one who sends them this. Listen deeply. Speak boldly. Do the work. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Growing Up in Chaos Can Make Peace Feel Suspicious w/Jahmaal Marshall
2026/05/28
Have you ever had something go right, and felt more anxious, not less? The cold open sets the tone for an episode built on radical self-honesty. The Chaos Blueprint - How Your Nervous System Got Wired Your childhood home wasn’t just where you grew up, it was your first classroom in what ‘normal’ feels like. Jahmaal breaks down how environments of unpredictability, emotional unavailability, and constant crisis train the nervous system to seek tension as a form of regulation. When your baseline is chaos, calm doesn’t feel peaceful, it feels suspicious. Key insight: The brain doesn’t chase what’s good for you. It chases what’s familiar. And familiar can be quietly destroying you. The Four Sabotage Patterns Jahmaal names the four most common ways unprocessed wounds show up as self-sabotage in adult life: 1.  The Hyper-Guarded Heart Building walls so high that genuinely safe people can’t get in, and then using their eventual exit as proof that no one can be trusted. 2.  Creating Drama in the Calm Stirring conflict when things are running smoothly, not out of malice, but because the nervous system doesn’t know how to trust stillness. 3.  Escapism and Numbing Drifting into overwork, overindulgence, over-scrolling, or any behavior that keeps you slightly off-balance, because sitting in genuine peace means sitting with the feelings you’ve spent years outrunning. 4.  Settling for Less Walking away from great opportunities and returning to the comfortable mediocre, not because something is wrong with the opportunity, but because a subconscious identity built in lack doesn’t believe it gets to have great things.   The Leadership Layer - Why This Is a Professional Conversation Too This isn’t just personal development. For anyone in a position of leadership: executives, entrepreneurs, managers, coaches, pastors, parents; unprocessed wounds don’t stay behind closed doors. They show up in: How you manage (or micromanage) your teamWhich opportunities you accept or quietly talk yourself out ofWhether your culture is built on trust and vision, or fear and controlHow you respond when talented people begin to outpace your comfort zoneThe most expensive thing in any organization isn’t a bad strategy. It’s an unhealed leader. Watch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt, and overworking.https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
How Growing Up in Chaos Can Make Peace Feel Suspicious - Jahmaal Marshall
2026/05/16
KEY TAKEAWAYS: What to Walk Away WithChaos isn’t just an external circumstance, for many people, it’s an internal identity built in childhood.Your nervous system will always move toward what’s familiar, not what’s healthy, until you consciously rewire it.Self-sabotage is not a character flaw. It is a protection strategy that outlived its usefulness.Leaders carry their wounds into their organizations. Healing isn’t soft, it is a competitive advantage.Peace is a skill that can be developed. Tolerating good is the practice.The gap between where you are and where you know you’re supposed to be is often not about strategy, it’s about subconscious belief.This One’s Especially for You If… You’ve ever felt more comfortable in struggle than in successYou recognize patterns of pulling away just when things start going wellYou’re a leader who wonders why your culture feels tense even when nothing is ‘wrong’You’ve settled for a relationship, a job, or a version of yourself that you know doesn’t match your full potentialYou’re doing all the right things externally but still feel an unexplainable resistance to receiving goodYou know the word ‘hypervigilant’ applies to you but haven’t known what to do with itReady to Do the Work? If this episode opened something in you, if you’re done cycling between chaos and confusion, done leaving great things on the table, done leading from a wound instead of a vision, then watch Jahmaal’s Unprogrammed webinar replay and explore the beliefs behind people-pleasing, false guilt and overworking: https://act-3-agency.link/lts-webinar-episode Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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