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This week, Robbie and Adam are back together to catch up on life, AI workflows, and whether agents can actually fix themselves when they break. They dig into barrel bourbon batch 38, token limits at work versus unlimited at Shopify, open code burning through budgets, work trees for parallel agent tasks, Claude's quiet hours spam, and why fable was secretly just a better harness. Along the way, they debate impeccable's art direction grilling you like Matt Pocock, StarPod video integration, mid journey medical imaging as the future of wellness, TSA bag scanners that should be fully AI by now, CodeRabbit versus Copilot for PR reviews, self healing loops that never actually heal, robot lawnmowers named Jeff that can't find their chargers, smoked cocktails in bongs at Cannon, and why the meta harness layer is probably going to die soon. Try Mailtrap for free: https://l.rw.rw/whiskey_web_and_whatnot_1 In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:06:32 Token Limits & The Subsidized AI Era Ends 00:13:18 Fable AI: The Great 8-Hour Experiment 00:20:20 Work Trees, Code Reviews & Vibe Checking PRs 00:24:34 Impeccable Design System & The Art of AI Prompting 00:32:01 Tinder for Algos: Automated Design Workflows 00:37:14 The Harness Wars: Skills, Memory & Tribal Knowledge 00:44:22 Meta-Harnesses, Flu, Eve & The Specialist Problem 00:48:05 OpenClaw Nightmares & Self-Healing Systems 00:58:01 Midjourney Medical, Jeff the Lawnmower & Wrap Up Links Barrel Bourbon Batch 38: https://barrelbourbonbrand.com/ Compass Box Crimson Cask: https://www.compassboxwhisky.com/ Octomor: https://www.bruichladdich.com/ Pappy Van Winkle: https://www.oldripvanwinkle.com/ Cannon Whiskey Bar: https://www.cannonwhiskeybar.com/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Claude: https://claude.ai/ Fable: https://fable.app/ Impeccable: https://impeccable.ai/ StarPod: https://starpod.app/ Midjourney: https://www.midjourney.com/ CodeRabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/ GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot Flu: https://flu.ai/ Eve: https://eve.dev/ OmniAgent: https://omniagent.ai/ Polygraph: https://polygraph.ai/ Railway: https://railway.app/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ Astro: https://astro.build/ Vite: https://vitejs.dev/ Playwright: https://playwright.dev/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ MailTrap: https://mailtrap.io/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Brad Frost—creator of Atomic Design, design system architect, front of the front end developer, bass player, Dragon Ball Z fan site pioneer, and maker of weird and wonderful internet things—to talk grief, AI, and finding your line through an uncontrollable landscape. They dig into processing the stages of acceptance around AI, music toys like the Orchid synth, the hard road through mastery, fruit booters versus Tony Hawk, snowboarding as a metaphor for navigating chaos, and why domain expertise is now more valuable than ever. Along the way, they debate the loss of joy versus bigger horizons, purple outlines and the limits of design systems, experience and time as the things that actually matter, human networks and zombie malls, signal over noise and the quest for less, caveman prompting and Daft Punk lyrics, repetition and depth and the power of simple words, green M&Ms and Van Halen's quality test, local LLMs and hallucinations and the sigil test, audio powered visualizations and design tokens, MIDI controllers and breaking cognitive barriers, organizational culture and the AI injection, tech stack being irrelevant now, what do we actually do and the Bob's question, designers needing to solve problems not push pixels, and the AI and Design Systems course. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:02:41 Music Toys & The Orchid Synth 00:07:28 The Journey Through Mastery & Hard Things 00:08:16 Fruit Booters, Rollerblading & Tony Hawk 00:10:41 Grief, AI & The Stages of Acceptance 00:16:13 Finding Your Line: Snowboarding as Metaphor 00:23:21 Domain Expertise Is Now Invaluable 00:25:19 The Loss of Joy vs Bigger Horizons 00:26:33 Purple Outlines & The Limits of Design Systems 00:28:11 Experience, Time & What Actually Matters 00:35:35 Human Networks & Zombie Malls 00:38:29 Signal Over Noise & The Quest for Less 00:40:51 Caveman Prompting & Daft Punk Lyrics 00:42:52 Repetition, Depth & The Power of Simple Words 00:57:29 Green M&Ms & Van Halen's Quality Test 00:58:29 Local LLMs, Hallucinations & The Sigil Test 01:01:26 Audio-Powered Visualizations & Design Tokens 01:06:37 MIDI Controllers & Breaking Cognitive Barriers 01:08:48 Organizational Culture & The AI Injection 01:09:53 Tech Stack Is Irrelevant Now 01:11:55 What Do We Actually Do? The Bob's Question 01:14:47 Designers Need to Solve Problems, Not Push Pixels 01:17:05 AI & Design Systems Course 01:20:37 Wrap Up & Final Thoughts Links Orchid Synth: https://telepathicinstruments.com/products/orchid-orc-1 Atomic Design: https://atomicdesign.bradfrost.com/ Tony Hawk Pro Skater: https://www.tonyhawkthegame.com/ The Music Lesson by Victor Wooten: https://www.victorwooten.com/ Acceptance and Commitment Therapy: https://contextualscience.org/act Daft Punk: https://www.daftpunk.com/ Chemical Brothers: https://www.chemicalbrothers.com/ Suno: https://suno.ai/ Waking Life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waking_Life Van Halen Green M&Ms: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brown-out/ Kandinsky: https://www.wassilykandinsky.net/ Sumi-e: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ink_wash_painting MIDI: https://www.midi.org/ Figma: https://www.figma.com/ Don't Make Me Think: https://sensible.com/dont-make-me-think/ AI and Design Systems Course: https://aianddesign.systems/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ ChatGPT: https://chat.openai.com/ React: https://react.dev/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Office Space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space Connect with Brad Website: https://bradfrost.com/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/brad_frost Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie welcomes back Chuck Carpenter for a nostalgic reunion over Jim Beam White Label Bourbon to catch up on life, AI workflows, and whether agents can replace human reviewers. They dig into Chuck's move to Italy, the bureaucratic nightmare of European residency, AI as tech leads, CodeRabbit versus GPT debates, SOC 2 compliance workarounds, and why GitHub bots might be the key to unlocking dark factory workflows. Along the way, they debate whether taste still matters when everyone has access to the same LLMs, speech to text versus typing, robotic lawnmowers, thermomix recipes generated by Claude, the death of Fable, local compute versus cloud dependency, deleting LinkedIn as a life goal, and why Jim Beam White Label tastes like college regret mixed with Kool Aid. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:02:43 College Nostalgia & Bourbon Tasting Notes 00:14:35 AI Workflows: From Code Reviews to GitHub Bots 00:21:04 The Death of SaaS: Building Your Own Tools 00:23:17 Fable AI Shutdown & The State of Anthropic 00:31:50 Life in Italy: Bureaucracy, Wine & Cultural Differences 00:35:34 Speech-to-Text Coding & The Future of Development 00:50:07 Local Compute vs Cloud Models: The Coming Rug Pull 00:54:05 Gaming, Watching & The LinkedIn Dream 00:56:05 Wrap Up & Final Thoughts Links Jim Beam White Label Bourbon: https://www.jimbeam.com/ Knob Creek: https://www.knobcreek.com/ Bookers: https://www.bookersbourbon.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ CodeRabbit: https://coderabbit.ai/ Fable: https://fable.app/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ Thermomix: https://www.thermomix.com/ Lymow Robotic Mower: https://www.lymow.com/ Yarbo: https://yarbo.com/ Handy Speech to Text: https://handyapp.ai/ GitHub: https://github.com/ Proxmox: https://www.proxmox.com/ Hermes: https://hermesengine.dev/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Qwen: https://qwenlm.github.io/ DeepSeek: https://www.deepseek.com/ Beelink: https://www.bee-link.com/ TrueNAS: https://www.truenas.com/ Amazon Luna: https://www.amazon.com/luna Metroid: https://metroid.nintendo.com/ Cyberpunk 2077: https://www.cyberpunk.net/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/ IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/ Connect with Chuck Website: https://chuckcarpenter.com/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/chuckcarpenter Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Compass Box Crimson Cask and dive into the wild world of AI infrastructure chaos, factory engineering, and why yelling at your computer might actually be the most productive workflow. They dig into the death of OpenClaw after a catastrophic tokenization failure, the rise of sparse attention with SubQ, NPM worms targeting TanStack, Mythos cracking Apple's M5 memory integrity for $35K in tokens, and why Ghostty is leaving GitHub after 18 years. Along the way, they debate building playgrounds versus digging holes, trampolines without nets as peak 90s parenting, factory engineering versus single prompt life, skull.style as the future of passive income, caveman versus JSON for LLM efficiency, clipping as a new parasitic job category, and whether GitHub's three nines uptime is actually just a built in excuse to touch grass. Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:06:12 Trampoline Safety & Parenting Philosophy 00:14:08 Hawaii Whiskey Adventures & The Tourist Problem 00:21:55 OpenClaw Is Dead: The Great Bot Breakdown 00:25:57 ClaudeClaw Factories & The Art Director Life 00:39:34 Loop Engineering & Factory Concepts for AI Workflows 00:47:47 NPM Worms, TanStack Pwned & The RMRF Kill Switch 00:50:03 Mythos Cracks Apple's M5 Security for 35K in Tokens 00:53:35 Gastown's Secret Self-Improvement & Elon vs OpenAI 00:58:32 GitHub's Two Nines Problem & Ghosty's Exodus 01:06:55 SubQ: Sparse Attention & Caveman Mode Built In 01:11:10 Clipping Culture & The Volume Game Links Compass Box Crimson Cask: https://www.compassboxwhisky.com/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Claude: https://claude.ai/ ClaudeClaw: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude Hermes: https://hermesengine.dev/ TanStack: https://tanstack.com/ SubQ: https://subq.ai/ Mythos: https://mythosai.com/ Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/ GitHub: https://github.com/ Gastown: https://gastown.dev/ Nano Banana: https://nanobanana.ai/ Skull Style: https://skull.style/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Railway: https://railway.app/ Bun: https://bun.sh/ Discord: https://discord.com/ NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ Peer.co: https://peer.co/ Ardbeg Wee Beastie: https://www.ardbeg.com/ Lagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/ Hi Rye Whiskey: https://hirye.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Glen Morangie A Tale of Ice Cream and dive deep into their entrepreneurial origin stories, from childhood hustles to band life to building apps for dead platforms. They dig into selling guppies as a fish pimp, child modeling for Nintendo ads, third grade pepto menthol schemes, breeding birds that pecked themselves, mowing lawns fast, and why nipple piercings are a bad investment. Along the way, they debate pop punk band names like Superband, recording with Fruity Loops, screamo versus emo trajectories, Under Oath versus Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, fight dancing versus moshing, ticket scams at Graystone Tavern, horror game mechanics in Outlast and Dead Space, proximity chat hacks in Phasmophobia and Peak, why RV There Yet is too hard, selling Die Ants Die on the BlackBerry Playbook, device walls for IE5 through IE8, and whether scotch aged in bourbon casks is secretly amaretto. Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:05:30 Early Entrepreneurial Adventures: Fish Pimping & Child Modeling 00:14:48 Hot Topic Tripp Pants & The Band Years Begin 00:19:24 Pop Punk Covers, Recording Studios & The MySpace Era 00:28:49 From Metal to Hip Hop: Musical Evolution & Nerdcore 00:32:57 Video Game Nostalgia: From Zelda to Dead Space 00:39:37 Survival Horror Deep Dive: Outlast, Dead Space & Phasmophobia 00:50:02 Peak, RV There Yet & The Difficulty Problem 00:53:41 Mobile Dev Nightmares: BlackBerry Playbook & Die Ants Die 00:57:29 Browser Wars & Device Testing Hell 01:04:19 Whiskey Review: Glen Morangie A Tale of Ice Cream Links Glen Morangie A Tale of Ice Cream: https://www.glenmorangie.com/ Maylene and the Sons of Disaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maylene_and_the_Sons_of_Disaster Under Oath: https://underoath777.com/ Dashboard Confessional: https://www.dashboardconfessional.com/ John Mayer: https://www.johnmayer.com/ Me First and the Gimme Gimmes: https://www.gimmemusic.com/ MF Doom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MF_Doom Aesop Rock: https://www.aesoprock.com/ Sage Francis: https://www.sagefrancis.net/ Atmosphere: https://atmosphere.com/ Del the Funky Homosapien: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_the_Funky_Homosapien Fruity Loops: https://www.image-line.com/ Analog Pocket: https://www.analogue.co/pocket Slay the Spire: https://www.megacrit.com/ Zelda Ocarina of Time: https://www.zelda.com/ Metroid: https://metroid.nintendo.com/ Resident Evil: https://www.residentevil.com/ Bioshock: https://bioshockgame.com/ Fable: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/fable Outlast: https://redbarrelsgames.com/games/outlast/ Dead Space: https://www.ea.com/games/dead-space Phasmophobia: https://kineticgames.co.uk/ Peak: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1643520/Peak/ RV There Yet: https://rvthereyet.com/ BlackBerry Playbook: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_PlayBook Palm Pre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre Adobe PhoneGap: https://phonegap.com/ Califia Farms: https://www.califiafarms.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/ Clerk: https://clerk.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam are live from the Clerk booth at React Miami with Christina Martinez, DevEx engineer at Resend, former gym owner, and creator of the viral Gen Z slang Babel plugin. They dig into whether React is a framework, React Server Components, hooks versus signals, HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus vanilla CSS, semicolons, TypeScript noise, and why C Sharp felt like too much ceremony. Along the way, they debate OpenClaw bots with personalities, gardening tips from AI assistants, personifying Telegram bots named Woz, touching hotel plants without permission, spider wort propagation etiquette, second brains in Obsidian, agent to agent email negotiations powered by Resend, why Claude eats context like candy, tabs on top versus the left, Google search versus LLMs, and whether AI will take out designers or developers first. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:01:38 Hot Takes: React, Server Components & Framework Debates 00:02:32 Hooks, HTML & The Programming Language Debate 00:04:10 Tailwind, Git Workflows & Semicolons 00:05:40 Programming Languages, TypeScript & C Sharp Struggles 00:08:00 Have We Reached AGI? The Personification Problem 00:10:11 OpenClaw Bots, Gardening Tips & The Plant Tangent 00:14:07 AI Assistants: Memory, Email & Bot-to-Bot Communication 00:17:51 Anthropic Pi Shutdown, Token Costs & API Strategies 00:19:55 AI Harnesses: Cloud Code, Cursor & Developer Tools 00:20:25 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First? 00:21:16 Editor Preferences, Browser Tabs & The Right-Side File Explorer 00:23:39 Google vs LLMs, Composition vs Inheritance & Package Managers 00:25:48 Anthropic vs OpenAI & The OpenClaw Copyright Drama 00:28:02 Crocs, Taylor Swift & The Marketing Empire 00:30:51 Conference Talk Debrief & Inspiring Silly Software 00:31:52 Gen Z Slang Babel Plugin: From Yeet to Viral Success 00:35:30 Resend Forward Conference & Building Crafted Software 00:36:23 Doom Runs in Email & Wrapping Up Links Resend: https://resend.com/ Resend Forward Conference: https://resend.com/forward Gen Z Slang Babel Plugin: https://github.com/christinamartinez/babel-plugin-gen-z Worst Video Tool: https://worstvideo.tool/ Taylor Swift UI: https://taylorswift.ui/ React: https://react.dev/ React Server Components: https://react.dev/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Claude: https://claude.ai/ Claude Claude: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude Pi: https://pi.ai/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Windsurf: https://codeium.com/windsurf VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/ Zen Browser: https://zen-browser.app/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ ChatGPT: https://chat.openai.com/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Babel: https://babeljs.io/ NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ PNPM: https://pnpm.io/ Clerk: https://clerk.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Telegram: https://telegram.org/ Doom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(1993_video_game) Connect with Christina X / Twitter: https://x.com/_christinacodes GitHub: https://github.com/christina-de-martinez Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Joel Hooks—co-founder of Egghead, tool builder, course creator, backend architect, indie hacker, advisor, consultant, father of five, and automation enthusiast—to talk dark factories, custom AI harnesses, and whether we've reached the point where looking at code is optional. They dig into Pi versus OpenClaw, YOLO mode, building local extensions, JoelClaw self-documentation, and why React is absolutely a framework. Along the way, they debate whether CSS knowledge is now your biggest advantage, semicolons, rebasing with AI, the death of pointing and clicking, HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus vanilla CSS, whether AGI is here yet, and why teaching your nine-year-old to read still matters even when LLMs exist. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:01:56 Hot Takes: React Framework vs Library & Server Components 00:03:41 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Solid Question 00:05:51 Is HTML a Programming Language? CSS, Tailwind & Willful Ignorance 00:11:18 Git Rebase, Reflogging & The Flogging Margins Problem 00:13:08 Programming Languages, Dancing & Learning to Like Things 00:16:04 Have We Reached AGI? Nuclear Arsenals & The Paperclip Problem 00:18:20 Pi AI Harness: YOLO Mode, Local Extensions & Custom Tools 00:19:15 JoelClaw: Building a System Agent & The American Express Extension 00:26:44 Dark Factories, Telegram Interfaces & Never Looking at Code 00:29:17 Claw in Your Pocket, Home Infrastructure & The Mac Mini Reboot 00:31:03 Family Claws, Claw Mom & Alpha School 00:35:05 LLMs vs Google Search, Encyclopedia Replacement & Party B******t 00:36:51 Package Managers, BEM Trauma & Every CSS Processing Method 00:38:39 Anthropic vs OpenAI, Hermes vs OpenClaw & Building from Scratch 00:39:55 Hobbit Feet, Rainbow Tattoos & The Whiskey Suffering Tax 00:43:03 Root Beer Logic, Licking Smokers & Wrap Up Links Egghead: https://egghead.io/ Badass.dev: https://badass.dev/ Pi: https://pi.ai/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw JoelClaw: https://joelclaw.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ React: https://react.dev/ Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ Kubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/ Telegram: https://telegram.org/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Alpha School: https://alphaschool.com/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ PNPM: https://pnpm.io/ NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ SCSS: https://sass-lang.com/ JSX: https://react.dev/learn/writing-markup-with-jsx Hermes: https://hermesengine.dev/ Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/ AI Hero: https://aihero.dev/ Code with Antonio: https://www.codewithantonio.com/ Total TypeScript: https://www.totaltypescript.com/ Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/ Connect with Joel Website: https://joelhooks.com/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/joelhooks Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami with a packed lineup of rapid fire interviews and hot takes. They catch up with Jason Lengstorf about driving a quarter million dollar Lamborghini through Miami with a police escort, the philosophy behind The Build Log show, and why the principles of building matter more than the tools. They talk with Kent C. Dodds about his personal AI assistant Cody, MCP servers versus OpenClaw, why he's building agents to work on agents, and the future of personal versus cloud based AI. Tanner Linsley drops by to discuss polymorphic UI libraries, spec driven development with state machines, and why determinism matters when AI is writing your code. Francesco shares his thoughts on Prolog being the most hated programming language, why Grok is best for harsh feedback, and his mission to convince JavaScript developers that Rust is the future of backend development. Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:01:39 The Lamborghini Experience & Building The Build Log 00:09:09 Hot Takes with Jason: React, Semicolons & CoffeeScript Trauma 00:13:48 Kent C. Dodds on MCP, Personal Agents & The Future of AI Assistants 00:21:40 Hot Takes with Kent: React, Hooks & AGI 00:25:58 Ryan & The TikTok Aesthetic: Instagram Ads, Keyboards & Airport Fashion 00:31:39 GitHub's Two Nines Problem & The Git Repo Revolution 00:39:30 Phone Wars: iPhone vs Android, Vision Pro Failures & The Flip Phone Dream 00:45:47 Tanner Linsley on Polymorphic UI Libraries & Spec-Driven Development 00:55:55 The Slop Fork Debate & Projections of Software Specs 00:58:42 State Machines, BDD & Multi-Agent Orchestration 01:01:43 Hot Takes with Tanner: Tailwind, Dark Factories & Cloud Code Desktop 01:11:31 Francesco on Rust for Web Development & Conference Culture 01:29:00 The Grok Advantage: Hard Feedback & Comparing Things 01:35:29 GitHub Downtime Normalization & The Feature of Forced Breaks 01:41:33 Wrap Up & The Power of In-Person Connections Links Clerk: https://clerk.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Lamborghini Huracan: https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/models/huracan MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Claude: https://claude.ai/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/ Pi: https://pi.ai/ Grok: https://grok.x.ai/ Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ TanStack: https://tanstack.com/ TanStack Start: https://tanstack.com/start Remix: https://remix.run/ React: https://react.dev/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Kotlin: https://kotlinlang.org/ Prolog: https://www.swi-prolog.org/ Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/ Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ Vercel: https://vercel.com/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/ Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/ Connect with Jason Website: https://www.learnwithjason.dev/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/jlengstorf Connect with Kent Website: https://kentcdodds.com/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/kentcdodds Connect with Tanner Website: https://tanstack.com/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/tannerlinsley Connect with Francesco Website: https://francescociulla.com/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/FrancescoCiull4 Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Ken Wheeler to talk AI harnesses, multi-agent swarms, survival bags, and whether React is finally a framework. They dig into React Server Components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, semicolons, Java hate, AI token arbitrage, and why you should subscribe to every AI service simultaneously. Along the way, they debate whether AI will replace designers or developers first, cruise ship chair warfare strategies, Replit as the ultimate vibe coding platform, hunting tech with geotagged tree stands, Eagle Scout projects, and why Ramon the 420 IQ gorilla leads the Apex Collective. Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:03:20 Hot Takes: Is React a Framework or Library? 00:04:59 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece? 00:06:52 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Power of Proxies 00:08:40 Semicolons, Java & Programming Language Hot Takes 00:12:46 AI Harnesses: VS Code Copilot, OpenCode & Steve 00:16:08 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First? 00:23:20 Cruise Ship Warfare & The Art of Chair Defense 00:28:01 Token Arbitrage & The Multi-AI Subscription Strategy 00:29:18 Replit Deep Dive: The Ultimate Vibe Coding Platform 00:32:31 Hunting Tech: Geotagging, Compass Apps & Finding Tree Stands 00:34:01 The Survival Bag: Apocalypse-Ready with Obliterated Qwen 00:36:55 Eagle Scouts Unite & The Boy Scout Expulsion Story 00:40:53 Ramon & The Apex Collective: The Wildest Multi-Agent Swarm 00:46:29 Hermes vs OpenClaw & Making $50 with Ramon 00:50:12 Wrap Up & Where to Find Ken Links Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/ React: https://react.dev/ React Server Components: https://react.dev/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/ Gea: https://geajs.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/ Replit: https://replit.com/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Hermes: https://hermesengine.dev/ Steve: https://github.com/kenwheeler/steve Qwen: https://qwenlm.github.io/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/ Clerk: https://clerk.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Slick Carousel: https://kenwheeler.github.io/slick/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Connect with Ken X / Twitter: https://x.com/kenwheeler GitHub: https://github.com/kenwheeler Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam are coming to you live from the Clerk booth at React Miami with a rapid-fire lineup of lightning podcasts. Fueled by Cutwater cocktails and conference energy, they caught up with Nnenna Ndukwe, Michael "Micky" Shimeles (AKA Rasmic), and the legendary Ryan "Thighs" Vogel for a rotating cast of hot takes, stories, and web dev chaos. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why some programming languages just feel wrong. Along the way, they debate AI harnesses, codex versus Claude drama, token leaderboards, AGI predictions, security vulnerabilities in NPM, sidebar placement preferences, tabs on top versus the side, and whether dark factories are the future. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:02:11 Hot Takes: React, Server Components & Framework Debates 00:03:19 Hooks, Signals & The Future of Reactivity 00:03:26 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate 00:04:05 Git Rebase vs Merge & Developer Workflow Preferences 00:06:21 AGI, AI Harnesses & The State of AI Development 00:09:12 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First? 00:10:54 Code Editors, Tabs & Terminal Trends 00:16:34 Google Search vs LLMs & Developer Research Habits 00:17:24 Composition vs Inheritance & Package Manager Wars 00:20:29 Security Nightmares & Social Engineering Attacks 00:23:34 OpenAI vs Anthropic & The AI Model Wars 00:25:32 Personal Preferences: Coffee, Whiskey & Beards 00:27:22 Second Guest: Svelte 5, Signals & Framework Philosophy 00:29:39 React Server Components Deep Dive & Performance Reality 00:31:17 GPT 5.5 Announcement & The Token Spending Arms Race 00:35:09 GStack Drama & Gary Tan Controversies 00:36:49 Monorepos, Turborepo & Modern Build Tools 00:41:31 AI Coding Tools: Cursor vs Copilot vs Codex 01:05:31 The Future of Web Development & Wrap Up Links Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/ React: https://react.dev/ React Server Components: https://react.dev/ Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Windsurf: https://codeium.com/windsurf Zed: https://zed.dev/ VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/ Arc Browser: https://arc.net/ Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/ NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ PNPM: https://pnpm.io/ Yarn: https://yarnpkg.com/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ Convex: https://www.convex.dev/ Clerk: https://clerk.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Connect with Nnenna Website: https://www.nnennahacks.com/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/nnennahacks Connect with Micky Website: https://www.rasmic.xyz/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/Rasmic Connect with Ryan Website: https://ryan.ceo/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/ryanvogel Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami at the Clerk booth, sipping Cutwater cocktails and talking hot takes with Typecraft. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why Python might be the least friendly language out there. Along the way, they debate AI in interviews, whether we've reached AGI, 3D printing chocolate, homeschooling with AI agents, the value of bullying, voice dictation workflows, whether you should bother learning Vim anymore, AI flow state versus brain fry, why COBOL won't die, and the probability hack for getting creative outputs from LLMs. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:02:52 Hot Takes: React Framework vs Library & Server Components 00:05:26 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Future of Reactivity 00:08:12 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate 00:11:51 Git Rebase vs Merge: The Honest Approach 00:13:54 Semicolons, Package Managers & Programming Language Preferences 00:25:01 AI in Interviews & The New Developer Workflow 00:29:59 Have We Reached AGI? The Bar is Lower Than You Think 00:31:35 3D Printing, Homeschooling & The Value of Bullying 00:49:33 AI Flow State: Voice Dictation, Remote Control & Long-Running Agents 00:46:24 Should You Learn Vim in the Age of AI? 00:51:01 AI Intensifies Work: Productivity Paradox & Brain Fry 01:03:33 COBOL, Mainframes & Why Legacy Tech Won't Die 01:09:40 The Probability Hack: Getting Creative AI Outputs 01:12:27 Wrap Up & Where to Find Everyone Links Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/ Typecraft: https://typecraft.dev/ React: https://react.dev/ Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ React Server Components: https://react.dev/ Remix: https://remix.run/ GEA: https://geajs.com/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ Vim: https://www.vim.org/ NeoVim: https://neovim.io/ Python: https://www.python.org/ Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/ Dart: https://dart.dev/ Java: https://www.java.com/ COBOL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL Yarn: https://yarnpkg.com/ NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ PNPM: https://pnpm.io/ IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ Clerk: https://clerk.com/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Rent a Human: https://rentahuman.ai/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Connect with Chris Website: https://typecraft.dev/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_dev Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Seth Webster—executive director of the React Foundation, former React lead at Meta, and chief developer evangelist at Expo—to talk React's past, present, and future, whether frameworks still matter in the age of AI, and why constraints are the secret to good code. They dig into React Server Components, the evolution of error messages, stable API work for React Native, and why agents need frameworks just as much as humans do. Along the way, they debate HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus semantic CSS, the economics of tokens, open source sustainability, and whether taste is the only differentiator left when everyone has access to the same AI tools. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:02:12 Is React a Framework or Library? 00:04:35 React Server Components: The Full Stack Story 00:18:15 Frameworks in the Age of AI 00:23:39 Error Messages & Developer Experience for AI 00:27:12 React Foundation Goals & Stable API Work 00:31:15 Open Source Contributions & Career Growth 00:34:29 AI Code Provenance & Compensating Open Source 00:42:44 Differentiation in a Saturated AI World 00:45:30 Call to Action: Start Building with AI Links React Foundation: https://react.foundation/ Expo: https://expo.dev/ React: https://react.dev/ React Native: https://reactnative.dev/ React Server Components: https://react.dev/ Clerk: https://clerk.com/ Vercel: https://vercel.com/ Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Linux Foundation: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/ Meta: https://about.meta.com/ CSS Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/ Remix: https://remix.run/ Connect with Seth X / Twitter: https://x.com/sethwebster React Foundation: https://react.foundation/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Shaw from CodePen to talk CSS animations, web components, server side rendering nightmares, and why building things by hand still matters in the age of AI slop. They dig into the CodePen 2.0 rewrite, Apollo GraphQL cache manipulation, the pain of reactive variables on the server, why Code Mirror 6 is both brilliant and bizarre, and whether stacks and fans will finally solve the PR review problem. Along the way, they cover HTML as a programming language, handwritten code museums, agentic parenting disasters, and why showing up prepared beats luck every time. In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:02:25 Whiskey Tasting: Andalusia Stryker Texas Smoked Single Malt 00:04:32 Hot Takes: Is HTML a Programming Language? 00:10:50 Chris Coyier vs Adam Argyle: The Impossible Choice 00:13:21 Git Worktrees, Stacks & Fans: Modern Version Control 00:22:21 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece? 00:24:30 CodePen 2.0: Building a Modern Editor from Scratch 00:39:18 AI in CodePen: Curation Over Generation 00:45:07 Agentic Parenting & The Fart Sycophant Problem 00:57:00 Raising Creative Kids in the Age of Screens 01:10:43 Whiskey Review & Final Thoughts Links - Andalusia Texas Smoked Single Malt Whiskey: https://andalusiawhiskey.com/ - CodePen: https://codepen.io/ - CodePen 2.0: https://codepen.io/ - KeyFramers: https://keyframers.com/ - Code Mirror 6: https://codemirror.net/ - Apollo GraphQL: https://www.apollographql.com/ - Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ - GitHub Stacks: https://github.com/ - React Server Components: https://react.dev/ - Claude: https://claude.ai/ - Project Hail Mary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hail_Mary - Pico-8: https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php - Spike Prime: https://education.lego.com/en-us/products/lego-education-spike-prime-set/45678/ - Blockly: https://developers.google.com/blockly - Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/ - Go: https://go.dev/ - Vercel: https://vercel.com/ - StackBlitz: https://stackblitz.com/ - Monaco Editor: https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/ - VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/ - Raised by Wolves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_series) - The Manualist: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheManualist - Aesop Rock: https://www.aesoprock.com/ - Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/ - Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/ Connect with Shaw - Website: https://shshaw.com/ - X / Twitter: https://x.com/shshaw Connect with the hosts - Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner - Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch - Website: https://whiskey.fm - Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf - Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 - YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Ardbeg Wee Beastie and dive into the wild world of AI development, cloud leaks, and whether humans are officially becoming wetware in their own systems. They explore the Claude code source leak, the death of OpenClaw third party harnesses, the rise of instant translation, pretext typography magic, agentation for visual debugging, and why second brains might be the only way to remember your neighbor's names. Along the way, they debate agent versus agent negotiations, Pika stream video calls, celebrity deathmatch AI battles, and why your kids' skate competitions are more fun than piano recitals. Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:00:36 Sponsor: Warp Terminal & Cloud Agents 00:03:19 Whiskey Introduction: Ardbeg Wee Beastie 00:04:42 Claude Code Source Leak & The Anthropic Approach 00:08:20 Model Wars: Opus vs Everything Else 00:11:44 OpenClaw Replacements & The Memory Problem 00:25:20 Mythos: The Ultimate Hacker Death Star 00:29:16 The Four-Day Work Week Lie & Doing More Work Than Ever 00:49:14 Second Brains & Local-First AI Memory 00:39:23 Pretext: Bypassing Browser Layout for Typography Magic 00:44:21 Agentation: Visual AI Debugging 00:47:02 Instant Translation & The Death of Duolingo 00:58:23 Pika Stream: Video Chat With Your AI Agent 01:02:34 Agent vs Agent: Celebrity Deathmatch for AI 01:04:35 Whiskey Rating & Wrap Up Links Ardbeg Wee Beastie: https://www.ardbeg.com/en-US/whisky/wee-beastie Lagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ Ahas: https://ahas.dev/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw Claude Claude: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude Pi: https://pi.ai/ OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/ Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot Cinty: https://cinty.ai/ Hark: https://hark.ai/ Post Bridge: https://postbridge.io/ Pretext: https://pretext.app/ Agentation: https://agentation.ai/ Pika Stream: https://pika.stream/ Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/ Astro: https://astro.build/ Deno Fresh: https://fresh.deno.dev/ Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Famous: https://famous.co/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ Nerdy Dev: https://nerdy.dev/ Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Kristen Garrett to talk signals, reactivity, and whether we've finally found the abstraction that makes sense. They dig into the differences between signals and hooks, why parameterized signals matter, how async fits into reactivity, and whether Fetchium is about to replace Axios and TanStack Query. Along the way, they debate observables versus promises, the death of prop drilling, quantum computing cracking Bitcoin, why AI needs simpler abstractions, and whether humans are about to become legacy dependencies in their own codebases. Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz In this episode: Chapters 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions 00:00:37 Sponsor: Warp Terminal & Cloud Agents 00:02:46 Whiskey Introduction: Holladay Soft Red Wheat Bourbon 00:04:17 What Are Signals? The Reactivity Primer 00:07:00 Signalium Deep Dive: Parameterized Signals & Reactive Promises 00:13:15 The Hooks Problem: Why React's Model Has Limits 00:14:21 Observables vs Signals: The Ergonomics Debate 00:27:21 Async in Reactivity: Reactive Promises & Relays 00:03:49 Fetchium: The Last Data Client You'll Ever Need 00:24:50 The Signals Proposal & TC39 Standardization 00:45:25 Prop Drilling vs Threading: Understanding Data Flow 00:38:05 AI & The Future of Development: Reading Code Matters More Than Ever 00:32:29 Gea Framework: Compiler Magic Without Hooks or Signals 00:56:27 Crypto, Verifiability & The AI Spam Problem 00:58:28 Quantum Computing vs Bitcoin: The 2029 Threat 01:02:44 Digital Ownership & The Streaming Problem 01:08:55 Whiskey Rating & Final Thoughts 01:07:06 Wrap Up & Where to Find Signalium and Fetchium Links Holladay Soft Red Wheat Bottled in Bond: https://holladaybourbon.com/holladay-soft-red-wheat-bourbon/ Signalium: https://signalium.dev/ Fetchium: https://fetchium.dev/ Signals Proposal: https://github.com/tc39/proposal-signals MobX: https://mobx.js.org/ Angular: https://angular.dev/ Vue: https://vuejs.org/ Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/ React: https://react.dev/ Jotai: https://jotai.org/ Legend State: https://legendapp.com/open-source/state/ Apollo Client: https://www.apollographql.com/docs/react/ TanStack Query: https://tanstack.com/query/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ Gea: https://geajs.com/ TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ Ethereum: https://ethereum.org/ Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/ Shor's Algorithm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor%27s_algorithm Data Hoarders: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/ Wayne's World: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne%27s_World Connect with Kristen GitHub: https://github.com/pzuraq Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/pzuraq.bsky.social Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.