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2021/02/16
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2026/02/06
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A podcast where we listen to some pops, drink a little hops, and Abigail Hummel gets to hang out with her pop, Barry Hummel!

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Bonus: Barry Answers Six Questions with Matty C
2026/02/06
Barry had the pleasure of joining our friend and frequent guest Matt Carlson on the podcast portion of his project, ⁠What Am I Making⁠, back on May 25, 2025. Now 13-timer Matt is the undisputed king of the Pops on Hops multiple guest club. He is a talented musician and songwriter from East Lansing, Michigan, whom Barry met as part of an online community created by Pete Dominick, the host of the ⁠Stand Up With Pete Dominick⁠ podcast. During one of their weekly hangouts, Matt shared the name of his latest band, ⁠Harborcoat⁠. Barry caught the R.E.M. connection, which led to a ⁠Pops on Hops episode⁠ to discuss the album ⁠Joy is Elusive⁠. The outtakes alone from that conversation also led to a POH bonus episode⁠ to discuss Matt's top five R.E.M. albums. Matt has contributed songs to our Christmas bonus episodes in both ⁠2021⁠ and ⁠2022⁠, and he served as the beertender for our first live episode. Most recently, Matt and longtime collaborator Jeff Gower appeared on POH to talk about their 2018 album Ways to Hang On. So, obviously, when Matt asked Barry to be the debut guest for his brand-new format, Six Questions with Matty C, he jumped at the chance! You’ll get to hear Abigail’s answers to Matty’s six music questions in two weeks! Enjoy! Learn about Matty’s plans for 2026! Up next… Touch by Eurythmics Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Season 6 Update
2026/01/23
Dear listeners, we come to you today with a short admin update. Abigail has officially been accepted to law school and will have a busy year, to say the least. We plan to release six episodes in Season 6 - Touch by Eurythmics, 2014 Forest Hills Drive by J. Cole (submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Alinor Mezinord), and four Phone-a-Friend episodes. We may throw in some ad hoc bonus content or experiment with some different formats along the way. Long story short, our release schedule will be erratic. We will continue to re-share our backcatalog of episodes weekly on Substack, and Barry may share some essay-format brewery reviews there as well. In the meantime, we now have an extensive backcatalog of 109 episodes and numerous bonus episodes. We hope you will revisit some of your old favorites, listen to an episode you haven’t heard before, or share us with a friend! We are excited for what 2026 will bring, and we hope you will come along on the ride with us. Happy New Year, and we’ll see you… sometime! Up next… Touch by Eurythmics Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
This Sneaky Penguin (Brushfire Records and Sneaky Penguin Brewing Company)
2025/12/25
Barry and Abigail discuss This Warm December and sample März of the Penguins, No Country For Old Penguins, and Midnight Waddle from Sneaky Penguin Brewing Company in Raleigh, North Carolina. We briefly discussed Eggnogorant by friends of the pod Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team. You can listen to Eggnogorant in our first-ever Christmas bonus episode, Bonus: Greet the Hummels... and Friends! (Original Holiday Songs by Friends of the Podcast). We acquired this beer while we were in Raleigh in October, when we had the opportunity to see Brandy Clark and Mary Chapin Carpenter in concert, featuring both friend of the pod Jon Carroll and the legendary Don Dixon in Carpenter’s band. See the setlist of the show we saw! We played a sample of Stevie Wonder’s original Someday at Christmas, covered by Jack Johnson on this album. Barry mentioned that Wonder’s version should have made his personal Christmas music compilation - and he would probably remove Xmas at K-Mart by Root Boy Slim. Bruce Springsteen’s live version of Santa Claus is Comin’ to Town is the definitive version in Barry’s eyes. Barry plugged the recent Beer in Front episode 276 Fresh Wet Hopped Episode, where he learned about wet hopping, which uses freshly picked hops in the brew and is not the opposite of dry hopping - learn more here. The most famous and mass-produced wet-hopped beer is Celebration from Sierra Nevada Brewing Company. Dave interviewed Bruz Beers and FlyteCo Brewing, both in Denver, Colorado, who collaborate annually on a wet-hopped beer called Hop Is My Co-Pilot. The brewing of this beer involves an airplane trip across the Rockies to collect freshly picked hops from Billy Goat Hop Farm in Montrose, Colorado. Read more about the incredible journey here! Abigail and Barry both declared that Zee Avi’s No Christmas for Me is a modern Christmas Wrapping by The Waitresses (and that both of those songs are modern O. Henry stories). Abigail mentioned that Stuck at the Airport by Money Mark is thematically similar to I’ll Be Home for Christmas by Bing Crosby. This is one of the songs Abigail will frequently be compelled to listen to when her life circumstances match the lyrics of the song - the other one is It’s Only Wednesday by Crash Kings. The Man in the Santa Suit by Neil Halstead reminded Abigail of Father Christmas by The Kinks. We played a little sample of Matt Nathanson’s cover of Father Christmas, which appears on our 2022 Christmas playlist! Abigail did not recognize that Rogue Wave’s Christmas was a cover of the Who song from Tommy. She compared the lyrics to Do They Know It’s Christmas? by Band Aid. Barry compared Jack Johnson’s variant lyrics in Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer to many of the songs on the Straight No Chaser album we reviewed in last year’s Christmas episode, Christmas Beers (Straight No Chaser and Gifted Beers). Abigail, per usual, got Silent Night confused with O Holy Night. Listen to our 2025 Christmas playlist! Up next… Touch by Eurythmics Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Carlo 8.0 (Garbage and Canadian Porters)
2025/12/12
Barry, Abigail, and special guest Carlo “from Canada” Sgro discuss Carlo’s Phone-a-Friend selection, Version 2.0 by Garbage, and sample Carlo’s choice of three Canadian porters: Stranger Than Fiction from Collective Arts Brewing in Hamilton, Ontario; Clifford Porter from Clifford Brewing Co. in Hamilton, Ontario; and Vanilla Porter from Side Launch Brewing Company in Collingwood, Ontario. Abigail always gets Collective Arts confused with Untitled Art in Waunakee, Wisconsin. Barry always gets it confused with Counterpart Brewing in Niagara Falls, Ontario. Carlo told the story of Shirley Manson calling Chrissie Hynde of The Pretenders to ask permission to use the lyrics “We were the talk of the town” in Special, since Manson had pulled those lyrics from The Pretenders’ Talk of the Town. Hynde agreed, and did not ask for any credit or royalties, before even having heard Special, and rumor had it she was flattered by the ask. Hammering in My Head reminded Barry of Leave by R.E.M. Barry heard elements of both The Munsters theme and The Beach Boys’ Don't Worry Baby in Push It. Unfortunately, he cannot claim credit at the AHSOSSAM for this find, as Garbage credited The Beach Boys for those lyrics and melody. Listen to our exploration of The Munsters Theme’s many different iterations in last year’s Halloween episode, New Belgium Halloween (New Wave Halloween & New Belgium Brewing)! Listen to Carlo’s cleaning playlist! The Trick Is To Keep Breathing reminded Barry of Try Not to Breathe by R.E.M. Listen to the fabulous Song Exploder episode on Try Not to Breathe! Carlo was the only one to complete the resequencing homework assignment! Listen to Carlo's resequencing of Version 2.0! Up next… This Warm December Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Presents in Cans (Dire Straits and Leftover Gifts)
2025/11/28
Barry and Abigail discuss Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits and sample Wild Dog – Pale Ale and Wild Dog – Shempa Ale from Tiemann Beer in Lusaka, Zambia; Strawberry Rhubarb from New Glarus Brewing Company in New Glarus, Wisconsin; Coconut Key Lime Pie Drips and Mischievous Grin from Barn Town Brewing in West Des Moines, Iowa; and Gallo / Famosa from Cervecería Centro Americana in Guatemala City, Guatemala. Read about how the Money for Nothing music video came to be, or watch the video. We first sampled New Glarus on our season 4 Christmas episode, Christmas Beers (Straight No Chaser and Gifted Beers). Barry pointed out that Walk of Life references other songs, and Abigail compared it to American Pie by Don McLean. Abigail formally retracted a fun “fact” she had previously shared on the podcast regarding artificial banana flavoring being based on the Gros Michel banana instead of the Cavendish banana, which is the most common banana cultivar eaten today. The 2013 SciShow video where she first learned this false fact has since been edited to remove any reference to this hypothesis but points to this article that explains the hypothesis. This Hank Green video first brought the debunking of this hypothesis to Abigail’s attention. We first sampled Barn Town on our season 4 episode Barntown (Phish and Barn Town Brewery). Abigail called Why Worry an “adult lullaby,” similar to Calm Down by Cory Chisel and the Wandering Sons. She then entered Why Worry into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to Little April Shower from Bambi (1942). She also brought up Baby Genius by Eels as having instrumental similarities. Barry mentioned Rain by Hans Zimmer from Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (2002). The “vibes” in the personnel list likely refers to the vibraphone, which could very well have produced the rain sounds in Why Worry. Abigail asked if Mischievous Grin would count as a “cream tangerine” (we have officially gone zero episodes without mentioning the White Album!). Barry had heard that the three war songs on this album were inspired by the Falklands War between Argentina and the United Kingdom that lasted for a little over two months in 1982. Abigail had always pictured the Vietnam War, partly because of the imagery in Ride Across the River, and partly because Abigail’s consumption of war media was heavily influenced by The Things They Carried by Tim O’Brien, a novel about the Vietnam War. While discussing The Man’s Too Strong, Abigail referenced an in-character speech by comedian and professional Dungeon Master Brennan Lee Mulligan. Up next… Version 2.0 by Garbage, Abigail’s annual Phone-a-Friend submission, this time with Carlo “from Canada” Sgro, the namesake of Carlo’s Corner! Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Bonus: Leftover Experiment (brewLAB)
2025/11/14
Barry and Abigail try something a little different with newly minted Three-Timer Jeff “Jafo” Shettler, who previously appeared on Jukebox: Wish There Were Beer (Pink Floyd and brewLAB) and Bonus: Pink Floyd Leftovers (Pink Floyd and brewLAB Leftovers). Jafo brings us on location to brewLAB in Carpinteria, California, to open a bottle of The False Prophet he had been saving for over eight years. Watch this video version of this episode! Suggested pairings of brewLAB beers and albums we heard included: Green Tea IPA and Mad Villainy by MF DOOM, Coco Johnny and Time Out of Mind by Bob Dylan, Green Tea IPA and Rust Never Sleeps by Neil Young, Beatbox and License to Ill by Beastie Boys, and Sorciere Noir and Dub Side of the Moon by Easy Star All-Stars. Abigail was intrigued by Mangose and Botanicale Deux. Barry called out Rice Rice Baby. Jafo suggested pairing The False Prophet with Sympathy for the Devil by The Rolling Stones, Bitches Brew by Miles Davis, or Ripple by Grateful Dead. Other suggested song pairings we heard included California Dreamin’ by The Mamas & The Papas, Caravan by Van Morrison, Cinnamon Girl by Neil Young, Banana Pancakes by Jack Johnson, and Worst Comes to Worst by Dilated Peoples. Barry suggested pairing Jafo’s homebrewed Maple Bacon Bourbon Porter with Darkness on the Edge of Town by Bruce Springsteen. By the way, you can hear our discussion of this album in our episode Dark Beer on the Edge of Town from 2021. Abigail wasn’t drinking, but she plugged I Don’t Want to Know by Fleetwood Mac. Dave, one of the brewers and the beertender the night we “stopped by,” suggested pairing The False Prophet with (Got) Everything to Shine by Saudade Experiment. Up next… Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Hoppin’ From the Grave (Rockin’ From the Grave and Seasonal Beers)
2025/10/31
Barry and Abigail discuss Rockin’ From the Grave and sample Pumpkin Shandy from Penn Brewery in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (in collaboration with Soergel Orchards in Wexford, Pennsylvania), Jack from Urban Artifact in Cincinnati, Ohio, and Pumpkin Spice Cheesecake Mind Over Matter from Magnify Brewing Company in Fairfield, New Jersey. We have gone zero episodes without mentioning the White Album or Abigail’s personal White Album, Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock. Both Black Magic Woman and a cover of The Devil Went Down to Georgia by Steve Ouimette appear on GHIII: LoR, but Abigail was mistaken about (Don’t Fear) The Reaper’s inclusion; in fact, Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll is the Blue Öyster Cult representation on GHIII: LoR, and (Don’t Fear) The Reaper is actually on Rock Band, which Abigail has played, but the Hummels have never owned. Listen to our exploration of The Munsters Theme’s many different iterations in last year’s Halloween episode, New Belgium Halloween (New Wave Halloween & New Belgium Brewing)! Today, we also listened to the version with lyrics and briefly discussed Far Out Munsters, the episode where the Munsters rent their home to a Beatles-inspired rock group. Edgar Winter’s justification of naming his song Frankenstein because of its “monster-like, lumbering beat” reminded Abigail of Flight of the Cosmic Hippo by Béla Fleck and the Flecktones. Watch the music video for Addams Groove by MC Hammer. Barry educated Abigail about the famous “More Cowbell” sketch from SNL, which centers around the studio recording of (Don’t Fear) The Reaper! In looking deeper into the fun fact from Carlo’s Corner about salt killing yeast, we stumbled upon this article on the history and science of Goses written by the brewmaster of Anderson Valley Brewing Company in Boonville, California, a brewery known for their Goses. Per the article, some Goses from the early 20th century had between 130 and 280 ppm of salt. Anderson Valley typically adds about 800 ppm of salt - but only after fermentation. It is thought that as little as 100-150 ppm of salt can cause osmotic stress to the yeast and therefore decrease fermentation rates, but the salt concentration required to completely inhibit fermentation or cause death for the yeast are much higher than humans would tolerate as palatable in a beverage. Santana’s Black Magic Woman is a mash-up cover of Black Magic Woman by Fleetwood Mac and Gypsy Queen by Gábor Szabó. Abigail would much rather listen to Smooth (feat. Rob Thomas). While Abigail believes Johnny clearly won the fiddle battle in The Devil Went Down to Georgia, John Oliver strongly disagrees. Watch the boss battle against the devil from GHIII: LoR. We previously discussed the word “pompatous” (found in Clap For the Wolfman by The Guess Who) during our discussion of Steve Miller Band’s The Joker in our episode Cans (k.d.lang and Cigar City Brewing). Read more about Paracelsus and the absolutely nauseatingly eye-rollingly annoying reason he took the name Paracelsus. Barry made Abigail play a little bit of Grandmaster Dee’s Haunted Scratch, the original B-side to Freaks Come Out at Night by Whodini. Twilight Zone by Golden Earring was inspired by The Bourne Identity novel, and you may be able to tell this from the music video. The other song from two-hit wonder Golden Earring you may have heard of would be Radar Love. (Ghost) Riders in the Sky is a cover originally written and performed by Stan Jones. Prior to The Outlaws’ version, Johnny Cash’s version was the most well-known. Up next… Brothers in Arms by Dire Straits Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Stout n’ Sour (Sabrina Carpenter and Spanish Marie Brewery)
2025/10/17
Barry and Abigail discuss Short n’ Sweet by Sabrina Carpenter and sample PB&J Mixtape: Grape from Xul Beer Company in Knoxville, Tennessee, and Knaus Berry Cinnamon Roll from Spanish Marie Brewery in Miami, Florida. Abigail first learned of Sabrina Carpenter from seeing her Nonsense outros that she customized for each of her concert locations. Watch the music video for Feather, and read about how it was tangentially involved in former mayor Eric Adams’ indictment. Watch the music videos for Taste, Please Please Please, and Espresso. Abigail presented Circle the Drain by Katy Perry as a counter-example to the more playful breakup vibes of Taste. That led us into a conversation about our respective “Let’s Dance moments”: See Let's Drink (David Bowie and Cultured Collective Brewing), Mind Your Grammer (Andy Grammer and Deadwords Brewing), and, most recently, Adult Beverages (Katy Perry and Urban South Brewery). Abigail was a little worried that Barry was going to call Bed Chem the Peacock of this album. Abigail likened the character in Dumb & Poetic to one of her favorite Instagram accounts, @beam_me_up_softboi. Abigail repeatedly plugged Sabrina Carpenter’s newest album, Man’s Best Friend. Watch the music videos for Manchild and Tears. Up next… Rockin’ From the Grave Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Grimm Chat, Man (Tracy Chapman and Grimm Artisanal Ales)
2025/10/03
Barry and Abigail discuss Tracy Chapman by Tracy Chapman and sample Light Cone, Hypnopompic, and Red Eye from Grimm Artisanal Ales in Brooklyn, New York. Barry spoke about his memory of encountering a curfew during a period of race riots in Bridgeton, New Jersey, where he grew up, when he was eight years old. Prior to this episode, Abigail knew Tracy Chapman best from her version of O Holy Night. Read about Luke Combs’ cover of Fast Car that made Tracy Chapman the first black woman to win Song of the Year at the Country Music Awards in 2023. Watch Luke Combs and Tracy Chapman perform Fast Car together at the 2023 Grammys. Read about the Maillard reaction. Barry compared She's Got Her Ticket to Neighborhood #2 (Laika) by Arcade Fire. Listen to our discussion of Arcade Fire: Dees Siblings (Arcade Fire and Dees Brothers Brewery). In our discussion of Why?, Abigail referenced the Androposphere from Whoah by Midnight Oil. Listen to our discussion of Midnight Oil: Barley and Rain (Midnight Oil and Intracoastal Brewing Co.). Abigail then entered Why? into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to How Come? from the original off-Broadway cast recording of Children's Letters to God. Abigail posited that For My Lover may have been a creative retelling of Loving v. Virginia. Up next… Short n’ Sweet by Sabrina Carpenter Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify!Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Bonus: Ways to Stick Around (The Stick Arounds and Hummel Hometown Beers)
2025/09/19
Barry, Abigail, and special guests Matt “Matty C” Carlson and Jeff Gower of The Stick Arounds join us to discuss The Sticks’ 2018 album Ways to Hang On, promote their upcoming fall 2025 tour of the southern United States, and sample brews from each Hummel hometown: Strawberry Cider from Dry Wrought Cider in Gainesville, Florida; Antique Alley Amber Ale from 3 Sons Brewing Co. in Dania Beach, Florida; and Hopsic Waste from Wop’s Hops Brewing and Kitchen in Sanford, Florida. Matt and Jeff initially met around 2003 to promote a show on which Matt’s band The Pantones and Jeff’s band The Gentleman Callers were billed together. Both Matt and Jeff release music under a number of different names. In addition to The Stick Arounds and The Pantones, Matty is the frontman of Harborcoat. While The Gentleman Callers no longer release music, Jeff currently plays in a country duo called Deer & Elk. Listen to Deer & Elk’s single, Big Penny, and watch the music video that Matty shot. Listen to Deer & Elk interviewed on What Am I Making. Watch Deer & Elk - Live from the Sheddio on What Am I Making. Learn more about Matt and Jeff’s fall tour, Sheddio in the South. Learn more about and support Matty’s live album recording with The Wild Honey Collective. Bands and albums that inspired The Stick Arounds during the writing of this album include The Kink Kronikles, Teenage Fanclub, Elvis Costello, Matthew Sweet, Sloan, Guided by Voices, R.E.M., The Posies, and Hüsker Dü. Many of these utilize multiple writers and alternate between writers in their sequencing. One of the Sticks’ first covers was a country tune: That’s How I Got to Memphis, originally performed by Tom T. Hall. In 2019, The Stick Arounds released one single per month and then released the compilation as Hot Singles Club. Barry and Abigail bought an album from the Adiemus project of composer Karl Jenkins in the gift shop of Carlsbad Caverns in 2005. Up next… Tracy Chapman by Tracy Chapman Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Adult Beverages (Katy Perry and Urban South Brewery)
2025/09/05
Barry and Abigail discuss Teenage Dream by Katy Perry and sample West Coast Pilsner, Carnival Time, and Groovy Juice from Urban South Brewery in New Orleans, Louisiana. Learn more about terpenes in hops! Abigail attended Katy Perry’s Play residency in Las Vegas in 2022 (with F.O.T.P. Alison Sigalow!). Barry heard that California Gurls was a response to Empire State of Mind by JAY-Z and Alicia Keys (although at first he remembered New York State of Mind by Billy Joel). Abigail, in turn, had always thought of it as Katy Perry’s Back in the U.S.S.R. (which was, in itself, The Beatles’ California Girls). Oh, and we have officially gone zero episodes without mentioning the White Album. Abigail compared her complicated feelings around Peacock to her feelings around songs like Kiss N Tell by Kesha. Sonically, Barry compared Peacock to Hey Mickey by Toni Basil. He had previously compared HOT TO GO! to Hey Mickey! Listen to the absurd radio edit of Peacock. We spoke briefly about Katy Perry’s 2015 Super Bowl XLIX halftime show and the iconic Left Shark! Abigail then mistakenly remembered a confetti cannon bra from a Katy Perry live performance that was actually a whipped cream bra from the California Gurls music video. We closed by playing a clip of Katy Perry’s 2024 single WOMAN’S WORLD, which was co-written and produced by alleged sexual and financial abuser Dr. Luke. Watch the music video if you are so inclined! Up next… Tracy Chapman by Tracy Chapman Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Jukebox: Northern Brews (Sloan and Canadian Beers)
2025/08/22
Barry and Abigail discuss Navy Blues by Sloan and sample three Canadian beers: Labatt Blue from Labatt Brewing Company, Moosehead Canadian Lager from Moosehead Breweries Limited, and Life in the Clouds from Collective Arts Brewing. The delightful can art of Life in the Clouds was designed by Joe Boyd. Navy Blues was entered into our Jukebox long ago by Paul Zawacki during our episode Bonus: A Dozen Updates (The Procession Reunion Special). He described Sloan as the Canadian Beatles, comparing One Chord to Another to the White Album (we have officially gone zero episodes without mentioning the White Album!) and Navy Blues to Abbey Road. In preparation for this episode, Abigail listened through Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band, and Love by The Beatles. Revolver is one of Barry’s favorite Beatles albums. He compared the throat clear at the beginning of She Says What She Means to George Harrison’s counting on Taxman, the opening track of Revolver. Barry then compared C’mon C’mon to Good Day Sunshine, also off Revolver. …He then compared Iggy & Angus to The Tra La La Song (One Banana, Two Banana) by The Banana Splits. …Then, collectively, they compared Sinking Ships to Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey by Paul McCartney and Linda McCartney. Barry "complained" about the sirens in Money City Maniacs, which reminded Abigail of the sounds of cars whizzing by underlying Lonely Boy by The Black Keys. Abigail had confusion over Seems So Heavy, which by title alone seems to be a rip-off of/tribute to I Want You (She’s So Heavy) by The Beatles. Later, she would compare the opening couple of notes of Suppose They Close the Door to the opening couple of notes of I Want You (She’s So Heavy). Abigail shared that one of the best meals she ever ate was in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, from where Sloan originated. She ate sea-cuterie at Waterfront Warehouse. Barry compared the piano in Chester the Molester to the piano in Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da by The Beatles. We briefly discussed James Taylor’s eponymous debut album, which was released on The Beatles’ Apple Records (the first non-British artist on the label), was recorded at Trident Studios concurrently with the White Album, and features Paul McCartney and George Harrison on bass guitar and backing vocals, respectively! But Barry had part of the story backward - Something in the Way She Moves inspired the opening line of Harrison’s Something, not the other way around. (Coincidentally, Taylor has said he had meant for the song to be called “I Feel Fine,” but that title had already been taken by The Beatles!) We played a little bit of the version of Carolina In My Mind that appears on this debut album - the version with members of The Beatles included. Later, Abigail mentioned that she kept hearing How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved by You) by James Taylor in I Wanna Thank You. Our word association around “ways to get even” from Suppose They Close the Door led us to 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover by Paul Simon and 50 Ways to Say Goodbye by Train. We should have also added Ways to Hang On by The Stick Arounds! Our next Jukebox episode will be 2014 Forest Hills Drive by J. Cole, submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Alinor Mezinord. Up next… Teenage Dream by Katy Perry Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Using Honeybees for the Meads (Edie Brickell & New Bohemians and B. Nektar)
2025/08/08
Barry and Abigail discuss Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars by Edie Brickell & New Bohemians and sample Cherry Limeade, Peach Kill All The Golfers, and Yacht Rock from B. Nektar Meadery in Ferndale, Michigan. Cherries are, in fact, both deciduous fruits and stonefruits. Edie Brickell and Steve Martin released a bluegrass album together in 2013, Love Has Come For You. The “flanged” guitar in the breakdown of What I Am reminded Abigail of Peter Frampton speaking through his guitar in Do You Feel Like We Do - Live. Abigail learned all about Edie Sedgwick and Little Miss S. from this article! Air of December reminded Abigail loosely of a poetic form called a sestina. Abigail entered The Wheel into the Abigail Hummel School of Speaking Smartly About Music with a comparison to I Fought the Law by The Clash. Abigail also wanted to remind everyone that the concept of the multiverse was first proposed by Hugh Everett III, the father of E of Eels. Listen to our episode on Eels: Owlectro-Shock Brews (Eels and Dangerous Minds Brewing Co.) or read this great biography of Hugh Everett III. Abigail compared the mystery percussion in Love Like We Do to the percussion in This Means War by Marianas Trench. Content-wise, Abigail compared Circle to THE GREATEST by Billie Eilish. Barry thought it was more similar to Transit Town by Harborcoat. She prompted Abigail to educate Barry about the concept of the manic pixie dream girl. Lyrically, it reminded Barry of Mean girls by Charli xcx. The “fact” we learned in Carlo’s Corner has been partially debunked. If you’re interested, you can learn more about Niels Bohr, Carlsberg, or Jarlsberg. Barry took an opportunity to plug our friend Kevin Richberg’s Slate Hill Edible Forest. Nothing reminded Abigail of the Greek myth of Odysseus and Polyphemus. Barry brought up the hypothesis that fossilized dwarf elephant skulls may have inspired myths of Cyclopes. (And dinosaur bones dragons! And rhinos unicorns! And manatees mermaids!) Abigail then entered Nothing into the A.H.S.O.S.S.A.M. with a comparison to Crazy Love, Vol. II by Paul Simon. Listen to our resequenced playlist of this album, which we have called Retooling Rubberbands at the Stars. Up next… Navy Blues by Sloan, submitted to our Jukebox by Paul Zawacki Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
Pops on Hops Hot 100 Special
2025/07/25
Barry and Abigail reflect on our favorite albums from our first 100 episodes and sample Passion Tea Lemon Days from Swamp Head Brewery in Gainesville, Florida; Wandering Albatross from Tripping Animals Brewing in Doral, Florida; and Dole Whip from Invasive Species Brewing in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. We chose today’s featured breweries by important episodes in the Pops on Hops lore. Musique Marécageuse (The Procession & Swamp Head Brewery) See also: Bonus: A Dozen Updates (The Procession Reunion Special) Tripping Walruses (The Beatles & Tripping Animals Brewing Co.) Little Species (Talking Heads and Invasive Species Brewing) The lovely people who left us shout-outs are Jon Carroll, Matt Carlson, Nick Martino, and Jack Cornell, all of them dear friends of the pod and members of our Multiple Guest Club. We were among the first to hear Jon’s new LP, Can’t Afford Not To. Jon is also a touring band member with Mary Chapin Carpenter this summer and fall. Purchase tickets here! Matty continues to publish daily on his incredible multimedia project, What Am I Making. He also has big plans for this fall: he and fellow Stick Around Jeffery Gower are embarking on a tour from Michigan to the Keys and back! Later, he and The Wild Honey Collective will be recording a new record in front of a live audience. Nick asked us to promote The Party Band on Instagram, Facebook, Spotify, and Bandcamp. Jack, along with his band Terry Anderson & The Olympic Ass-Kickin Team, released Got to Be Strong in 2024. He is currently working with Terry Anderson on a new album! Barry’s favorite albums (and favorite song from each album) were: Musique Magnifique by The Procession (MTV Song [No Relation]) RKS by Rainbow Kitten Surprise (Goodnight Chicago) Off to the Races by Jukebox the Ghost (Diane) Consolers of the Lonely by The Raconteurs (You Don’t Understand Me) Crash Kings by Crash Kings (Raincoat) …and his least favorite album was Andy Grammer by Andy Grammer (his least favorite song from that album was Build Me a Girl). Abigail’s favorite albums (and favorite song from each album) were: Uh-Oh by David Byrne (Hanging Upside Down) Bellybutton by Jellyfish (Now She Knows She’s Wrong) Electro-Shock Blues by Eels (Efils’ God) Graceland by Paul Simon (The Boy in the Bubble) God Shuffled His Feet by Crash Test Dummies (Afternoons & Coffeespoons) …and her least favorite album was Little Earthquakes by Tori Amos (her least favorite song from that album was China). Listen to a playlist of (most of) our favorite songs shared today! Up next… Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars by Edie Brickell & New Bohemians Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group
TAP ME ALES AND SOURS (Billie Eilish and Grand Scheme Brewing)
2025/07/11
Barry and Abigail discuss HIT ME HARD AND SOFT by Billie Eilish and sample Fashionable Consumption, Heist of the Century, Plausible Deniability, Mesmerist, and Grapefruit Fluff (bonus beer) from Grand Scheme Brewing in Gainesville, Florida. Grand Scheme’s non-alcoholic offering is called Placebo Effect. Abigail and Barry both saw connections between SKINNY and the themes of GUTS by Olivia Rodrigo. Listen to our review of GUTS: ALES (Olivia Rodrigo and First Love Brewpub). Abigail also believes SKINNY is a retrospective summary of the story we are about to explore in the rest of the album, à la Astoria by Marianas Trench. Listen to our review of the Marianas Trench album: Cascadia (Marianas Trench and Cascade Brewing). Barry compared the sound of the back half of L’AMOUR DE MA VIE to both Xanadu and Charli xcx. Listen to our reviews that led him to this conclusion: Can I Do (Xanadu Soundtrack and English Beers) and 3 BRATS (Charli xcx and 3 Daughters Brewing). Abigail compared the story of THE DINER to the story of Paparazzi by Lady Gaga. The accordion sound reminded Barry of the melancholy band from The Nightmare Before Christmas. We also briefly discussed Edward Hopper’s Nighthawks and its many pop culture parodies. Abigail compared the very last words of BLUE to the very last words of I’ve Got All This Ringing in My Ears and None on My Fingers by Fall Out Boy. CHIHIRO appeared on Barack Obama’s 2024 Summer Playlist! Up next… Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars by Edie Brickell & New Bohemians Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry’s condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we’re drinking when we’re not on mic! Leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify! Facebook | Instagram | Bluesky | YouTube | Substack | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox | Beer Media Group

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Meghanmmw 2025/04/08
So much fun
This father daughter duo are so entertaining. Great music and beer reviews and I’m not even a beer drinker!
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computergreek 2024/07/31
10/10 recommend
brilliant exploration and reviews of music and beer
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Bumble90 2024/04/03
Music Beer Father/Daughter Relationship = Pure Gold!
This podcast is a marvelous mix of music talk, beer snobbery, cultural nerdy, and the depths of a fantastic father/daughter relationship. I love this ...
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PG in Norfolk 2021/05/23
Love the concept!
Really enjoyed the episode I just listened to... and not just because my named was mentioned! Look forward to listening to more episodes. Keep up the ...
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Mama Darbs 2021/03/06
Brilliant and fun!
Abigail and Barry Hummel have a very insightful, intelligent, and entertaining review of music and craft beer. It’s super fun listening to them intera...
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