Creative Business Real Talk

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2021/03/25
Latest episode
2026/02/04
Average duration
19 min.
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A weekly kick-in-the-pants to go after your creative dreams. From a former Harvard corporate lawyer who built a million-dollar calligraphy education business… and then scaled it down intentionally to create a life full of creativity and freedom. Every week, I share a tactical business lesson + powerful brain reframe that will help you get unstuck. The perfect mix of strategy and warmth that never shies away from the truth. Welcome to Creative Business Real Talk - Shinah, Founder of Crooked Calligraphy

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159: Calligraphy Biz Quick Start. Will this really work for me?
2026/02/04
Lots of my students have become successful Pro Calligraphers, but WILL IT REALLY WORK FOR YOU? I got some very good questions recently from a busy mom who wanted a reality check and asked me: What’s a realistic first-year income for a 5-10hr/week side hustle?Can a busy working mom really make this work?How can new calligraphers stand out and get clients?Should a new business start with local services or online?My informal answers in this episode and a surprising result?  My answer to questions two, three and four are the SAME ANSWER and it’s the key to you moving quickly & efficiently with the time you have, so you can start making money instead of spinning your wheels.  --  Pro Calligrapher Bundle open for enrollment through Feb 4, 2026 https://crookedcalligraphy.lpages.co/courses FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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158: From Uncertain to Booked. $1500 from calligraphy in just 2 months
2026/01/28
What if your breakthrough was just two simple steps away? This week on Creative Business Real Talk, you’ll meet Sophilia - a student who proves that you’re closer than you think. She enrolled in our Modern Calligraphy 101 Program in January 2025.  By October 2025, her calligraphy was pro-level. But she still felt stuck, unsure, and desperate for direction. So I gave her two clear action steps… and what happened next will blow your mind!! In just 60 days, Sophilia booked her first calligraphy job, made $1,500, and even landed a better day job… all because she finally stopped overthinking and started showing up. Inside this episode: (3:20) Sophilia's business journey (and if she even wanted to launch a business in the first place!)(4:50) Sophilia’s 2025 wrap up, and how her mentorship changed her mindset from “procrasti-learning” to putting herself out there and eliminating the static in her head(10:50) How calligraphy instilled the confidence in Sophilia to land a BETTER day job that leaves her more fulfilled and focused on her own happiness(12:20) Advice for others scared to start their own creative business & why “done is better than perfect”I LOVE this inspiring story of how focusing on the important things can TRULY start you on your creative business journey sooner than you think! I hope this episode will inspire you to move now, with what you have (because you really have WAY more than you think at your disposal). Find Sophilia here: https://www.instagram.com/sophiliamarcellestudios/ https://www.sophiliamarcellestudios.com/  FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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157: Be More Creative in 2026 (practical strategies for women)
2026/01/21
There’s nothing “wrong” with you if you haven’t found your “creative passion” yet! In fact, let’s stop thinking about creative passion in a romantic fantasy, fairytale prince kinda way and let’s actually make it HAPPEN for ourselves (‘cause women in our middle years know how to get shit done, right?) In this episode of Creative Business Real Talk, I’m busting three myths that keep us from sticking to a creative hobby: Myth #1: The LOVE of the craft itself should be enoughMyth #2: You should feel spontaneous bursts of creativity and desire to create, like all the time. Myth #3: Once you find your creative passion, it will just click, and you’ll love it happily ever after.We’ll be exploring: 00:00 Introduction: Embracing Creativity in Midlife 01:13 Myth 1: Purpose-Driven Creativity 03:30 Myth 2: Spontaneous Passion 07:09 Myth 3: Instant Mastery 10:06 Finding My Creative Passion: Calligraphy 14:11 Join the Calligraphy Challenge 15:29 Conclusion: Your Creative Journey Awaits And you''ll never guess what activity I have discovered is synonymous to building a woman-owned creative business 😉 There’s a reason calligraphy is MY creative passion, and it’s not because it rescued me. It’s because I MADE it into my passion with intention, structure, and purpose. I hope you can relate to this podcast and find inspiration to help you achieve your creative goals! And don’t forget! The Newbie To Pro Calligrapher Challenge is happening RIGHT NOW - January 19-27, 2026! Register HERE!! FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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156: She quit accounting for calligraphy (with Student Laura Hess)
2026/01/14
Who makes more $$$? An accountant or a calligrapher? In this inspiring episode of Creative Business Real Talk, I sit down with Laura Hess of Getrie’s Calligraphy - a former accountant who took our calligraphy courses in 2020 thinking, “I’m not even artistic.”  Fast forward to today: she quit her 20-year corporate job, runs a thriving calligraphy business, and now earns way more PER HOUR for her calligraphy than for her accounting services!! Here’s what you’ll learn from Laura’s journey: (1:15) Why Laura got into calligraphy & how those grad-school handwriting guidelines rooted her in her passions!(4:20) How Laura’s need for a ‘creative purpose’ perpetuated her business (6:25) When Laura finally figured out she was ready to start moving her business forward (even if she was ‘doing it scared’!)(14:20) How calligraphy changed Laura, both personally & professionally, and how it's never too late to tap into a new skill & career(21:20) Laura shares how the investment in herself has paid off, the moment things “clicked” for her, and the perks of being your own bossNever in a million years did Laura think she’d quit her accounting job, start her own biz, end up charging WAY MORE for calligraphy, & feel this much freedom and flexibility of not having a boss. Tune in to see what can happen when you just “give it a try” and pursue your creative side! Don't forget, the Pro Calligrapher Bundle opens for enrollment January 27th, 2026! Follow Laura @gertiescalligraphy  https://www.gertiescalligraphy.com/ FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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155: From Beginner to Business - stop waiting for perfection and start now
2026/01/07
FREE Calligraphy Classes start 1/19/2026 --> crookedcalligraphy.com/challenge -- Still waiting for your craft to be “perfect” before launching your biz? Big mistake. I’m busting the myth that you need flawless technique to start making money as a creative. When I launched Crooked Calligraphy, I’d only been practicing for three months. THREE. But I didn’t wait to be perfect. I shared my imperfect, beginner calligraphy and built a real, thriving business by learning in real life. Here’s what we’ll cover: Why waiting to “perfect” your craft is setting you back YEARSThe real reason people buy your work… and it’s not just about skillA practical “Beta Business” strategy that lets you earn while you learnHow starting imperfectly builds resilience, confidence, and incomeThe truth about the calligraphy industry ecosystem - and where you can fit right nowWhether you're dreaming of side income, full-time creative freedom, or just want to stop waiting, this episode will help you see the real value of starting before you feel ready. FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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154: My huge FAIL of 2025 (and how it'll help YOU get over your fear of failure)
2025/12/31
Failure isn't the end! It’s a -requirement- for success. But no one taught us that in school, right? Most people don’t quit because they fail once… They quit because they decide that failure means something is wrong with them. In this episode, I’m breaking down why failure is essential to building a thriving creative business, and how learning to fail correctly is what separates people who succeed from people who stay stuck. You’ll hear: (1:30) The fear one of my students had before joining my business course... and how she landed her first paid calligraphy job within weeks (3:05) Why school conditioned us to see failure as a stop sign instead of feedback (5:30) The truth about my journey: two failed businesses before building Crooked Calligraphy (7:50) A business mentee who believed she was a failure because her last business didn’t work — and how we reframed it as a “starter” business (11:00) The story of my most painful launch: weeks of prep, nearly 1,000 people, and only ONE sale (13:15) How that failure led to a $30K+ launch just weeks later Here’s the key takeaway: 👉 You go through failures. You are NOT a failure. Failure is only scary when you let it define you instead of teach you. If you’ve ever thought: -- “What if I try and still fail?” -- “Maybe I’m just not cut out for this” -- “I don’t trust myself to start again” This episode is for you. ✨ And if you’re ready to stop letting failure hold you back, I’m opening a new challenge in January designed to help you build momentum, confidence, and clarity — even if you’ve failed before. Stay tuned. Your next step might be closer than you think. FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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153: Reddit called me trash... and I’m still here (how I got over my fear of criticism)
2025/12/24
Have you ever been too afraid to put yourself out there for fear of what people might say?  Yeah…me too. Especially when I searched my own business on Reddit and found a thread calling me a snake (Word of advice -  DON’T do what I did, unless you have thick skin).... In this episode of Creative Business Real Talk, I’m getting honest about the fear of criticism, how it’s shown up in my journey from lawyer to calligrapher, and the three powerful mindset shifts that changed everything. Inside this episode: (1:42) “Don’t take criticism from someone whose life you don’t want.” - why ‘doing something brave with your life’ holds more value than the opinion of bystanders (4:14) “Are you going to let two minutes of gossip stop you from living your life?” - how to “zoom out” and be grounded in the decisions you make for YOUR life (7:43) “Criticism says more about the person criticizing than the one being criticized” - why pointing the finger at someone, only results in 4 pointing back at yourself (14:27) The most important thing I’ve gained from my entrepreneurial journey Whether it’s strangers online or well-meaning family members, criticism is part of the deal when you’re doing something brave. But here’s what I’ve learned after 10+ years building Crooked Calligraphy: what people say about you says more about them than it does about you. This episode is for any creative or entrepreneur who’s ever held back because of fear—especially the fear of being misunderstood, judged, or torn down. 🎧 Listen now to get grounded in your worth, filter out the noise, and move forward with courage. FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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152: Your First Client Is Closer Than You Think
2025/12/17
Think building a calligraphy business means you need a full-blown plan, a perfect brand portfolio, and a social media master? Think again. In this video, I share two real stories—of students who started scared, took action, and booked their first gigs within weeks. I’ll tell you exactly what to focus on in order to get your business going with your very first paying clients. In this episode, I’m sharing: (0:57) “I need all of the things!!” - Why this myth holds people back SO often(2:08) The two (NOT impossible) things I told my student she needed to do to take the first step & start your business(5:32) Pitching yourself - doing the hard things drives your overall success (even if you fail at first!)(7:49) The staircase - why stepping up to start a business isn’t as scary as you think(10:50) The BEST time to get started with calligraphy & how to book a job THIS WEEKYou’ll walk away believing that success might not be as far off as it seems, and that mountain of tasks isn’t quite as big as you think it is!! FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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151: Will AI Replace Calligraphers?
2025/12/10
Is AI about to put calligraphers out of business? I put it to the test…and what I found might surprise you. In this episode of Creative Business Real Talk, I share my honest reaction after testing a “calligraphy generator” inside ChatGPT, and why it shook me… initially.  I have a lot of students who send me questions about AI replacing calligraphy jobs,, and the question I hear constantly is, “Is it even worth starting a calligraphy business now?”.  Join me as I discuss the future of calligraphy, why staying present is the name of the game, and share with you the perspective of someone who’s been in the industry wayyyy longer than I have (like 35 years longer...). Inside this episode: (1:30) “Calligraphy is doomed!”... A brief history - A look back at how text has continuously evolved - from printing presses, to Procreate, to live brand activations (4:17) Certainty is an illusion. Calligraphy services evolve - The dangerous myth of “certainty”, why it's impossible to achieve, and how flexibility can benefit you immensely (9:21) The questions you should be asking yourself instead - Why you need to live in the present, not the distant future(15:23) The Calligraphy AI generator - the good, the bad, and how to manage the unknown If you’re thinking about getting into calligraphy in an increasingly AI-dominated world, this episode is your reminder: tools evolve -  but human connection and authenticity never go out of style. 🎧 Tune in to hear why flexibility, focus, and presence are the keys to thriving - always. FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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150: From corporate to “artist”? How shifting identities unlocks growth.
2025/12/03
If calling yourself an "artist" makes you cringe... I get you, and it doesn't always have to feel that way.  In this warm n’ fuzzy episode, I’m taking you back to the exact moment one tiny click on Instagram changed the entire trajectory of my life. If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re “creative enough,” “artistic enough,” or whether calligraphy is something you could ever actually do… this one’s for you. (0:50) Part 1: The One Instagram Click That Changed My Life I share the true story of how, in late 2015, I stumbled into modern calligraphy during one of the lowest and most confusing seasons of my life. One curious scroll on Instagram opened a door I never expected… and it was the beginning of my entire creative career. If you’re a beginner wondering where to even start, this part is pure encouragement. (5:05) Part 2: You Called Me What? The first time someone called me an artist and what I actually felt inside (spoiler: impostor syndrome was LOUD). If you’ve ever doubted your creativity or felt like you don’t “deserve” the title of artist, you’ll feel seen and supported here. (8:40) Part 3: Why Calligraphy "Stuck" for Me Calligraphy stuck for me, not because it was my “passion” but because of my Creativity Formula: 1) Natural Interest, 2) Believing it's Doable, and 3) A Sense of Bigger Purpose. I break down why this matters for any beginner starting a new creative skill in 2026. (11:00) Part 4: What This Means for -Your- Creativity in 2026 Your creative life can shift SO quickly when you follow your curiosity… and you don’t need a perfect plan. I talk about how beginners become artists, how creative confidence grows, and how calligraphy can be a  joyful escape - or even the first step toward a new career or side hustle. If you’re dreaming of trying something creative next year, this episode will give you the spark you need. FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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149: Profitable Calligraphy Pathways
2025/11/26
Are you trying to turn your love for calligraphy into real income - but feel stuck, overwhelmed, or like you need to go viral to make it work? Good news: You don’t. In this video, I’m sharing two proven calligraphy business pathways that can help you start earning - no huge audience required - and breaking them down step-by-step so it actually feels DOABLE! ✨ Inside this video: (00:52) The 3 things to focus on to grow your creative business - what to focus on & what to ignore (05:38) Action plans for engraving & hosting workshops - step-by-step guides for two profitable calligraphy pathways: (5:40) Engraving roadmap(8:35) Teaching workshops roadmap (11:37) The obstacles - focus on your plan (and avoid the distractions!)  (13:40) Black Friday 2025 BIG deals! Whether you're just starting or ready to finally monetize your calligraphy skills, this video gives you a clear, practical plan you can act on TODAY to start moving your business forward! BIG savings happening right here 11/24/24-11/28/25:   → Beginner’s Guide to Calligraphy Engraving – 50% OFF  → Teach Calligraphy Workshops Training – 50% OFF FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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148: $1 Million with One Thing - What Most Creatives Get Wrong About Growth
2025/11/19
What’s the secret to building a million-dollar creative business? It’s not hustle…it’s focus. In this episode of Creative Business Real Talk, I break down the real numbers behind my million-dollar course sales - and the sneaky way I kept sabotaging my own success. If you’ve ever felt pulled in a million directions, this is your permission to simplify, focus, and finally scale so you can start making profits! Here’s what you’ll learn: (1:07) The math behind the $1 million - how many did I actually have to sell?(6:12) The growth lesson - how sitting with the uncomfortable grows your business(8:25) What’s actually going to move the needle in your business?(9:20) Simple roadmap for calligraphers to succeed in their business - what skills really bring in revenue(17:32) How to score deep discounts on my calligraphy courses (up to 50% off)This episode is a must-listen if you’re a creative entrepreneur who’s ready to stop dragging their feet and start doubling down on what works. 💡 Bonus: Stay till the end to hear all the details about my upcoming Five Days of Deals event starting Nov 24, 2025 - featuring up to 50% off some of my signature courses! FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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147: Building A $900K Calligraphy Business
2025/11/12
In this episode, I share how I was able to scale my small calligraphy business... because I had a mentor who believed I could do it. You’ll hear: (1:30) The three things that allowed me to scale my business successfully (5:30) The pandemic - being prepared at the right time for your moment of opportunity (6:50) Why believing  it’s possible is a MANDATORY step in going after your passion (8:40) How much money I'm making now in my business Stop looking at the reasons why you CAN’T. Start looking for evidence that you CAN. And surround yourself with like-minded people. Perfect for: creatives, career changers, overachievers, and anyone craving freedom over “success." --------------  **CALLIGRAPHY RESOURCES** "45 Ways to Make Money with Calligraphy" PDF: https://crookedcalligraphy.lpages.co/money/ FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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146: Burnt-Out Lawyer to Full-Time Calligraphy Business
2025/11/05
From Corporate to Creative: a 10-Year Journey What if the career you worked so hard to build… turned out to be a giant soul-suck?  In this episode, I share my real journey from miserable Ivy League lawyer to building a wildly successful $900K/year calligraphy business to scaling down to a leaner "enough" business.  I’m breaking down my revenue, year by year, from 2016 to 2025! Inside you’ll hear:  (1:00) Personal updates from the last 5 months(7:54) The unexpected moment that made me quit law with zero plan (9:49) How $5 greeting cards at a craft fair eventually led to a six-figure course (15:00) Why perfectionism KILLS creative momentum (and what to do instead) This isn’t just a business story. It’s proof that you CAN chase your creative curiosity - even if you’re currently stuck in a glass office you hate.  Perfect for: creatives, career changers, overachievers, and anyone craving freedom over “success."  --- ABOUT CROOKED CALLIGRAPHY  Hey - I'm Shinah! A former miserable corporate lawyer turned sassy calligrapher and teacher. Ten years ago, I was WISHING I could create beautiful calligraphy but feeling really un-creative and LOST about how to achieve that... and now I truly believe that ANYONE can learn this beautiful craft - because I've already taught it to THOUSANDS of people, from all different backgrounds.  Calligraphy has given me a gorgeous life. It's helped my students find PASSION, PURPOSE, and a reason to JUMP OUT OF BED each morning. What could it do for you? =)  FREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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145: End of Season 3 and What's Next
2025/06/11
Direct links to the most popular, valuable and impactful episodes of the show right here: crookedcalligraphy.com/bestof -- Why I'm taking a little break from the weekly podcast and how it might be changing next season! Including: A quick business lesson on lead, nurture & sales content (and which one Podcasts are best for)Why I started this podcast and kept it going for 145 episodeWhat I'm thinking of changing for the next seasonFREE WORKSHOP: “How to Become a Calligraphy Pro” Educational Workshop FOLLOW SHINAH: Join our community of creativity-seeking souls over on Instagram: @crookedcalligraphy SUBSCRIBE: Love podcasts? Listen to The Shinah Show wherever you get your podcasts, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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4.9 out of 5
151 reviews
Rzoo.sh12 2025/11/12
Right episode at the right time
I just played the moving goal post episode by chance and it was so timely for me hear that content. What Shinah shares is so honest and relatable and ...
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Pauline Emilie 2025/02/13
So good
Thanks Shinah for helping us focus on the big picture. It’s so key for us with a corporate job and kids.
Elleminor 2024/11/19
Shinah keeps my motivation going
I love listening to Shinah’s podcast because it make me fall I love with calligraphy all over again and I’m motivated to be more creative. Thank you S...
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Developers Please read!!! 2024/08/29
Great podcast for any creative!
I found this show went on a whim when I did a craft fair and was looking for some quick advice. WOW, this show answered so much more. I’m a graphic de...
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Shelzyok 2024/07/25
So real!
Thank you so much for sharing! I have enjoyed listening so much!
Cece LA 2024/07/24
Love this podcast!
Great pod for enriching your business and life. Thanks for being honest and sharing your stories. They’re so relatable. Keep up the great work!
SophieMarieandMe 2024/07/20
Fun and nuanced
I love a podcast that you can enjoy but leaves you thinking about things. Shinah gives you more than you expect while still maintaining a warm but rea...
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Eri.s 2024/06/05
Excellent and Inspiring
I love how Shinah breaks everything down into manageable pieces! She's honest about her success and struggles. I enjoy learning from her! Highly recom...
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Carmen La, copywriter 2024/05/31
The best!
Shinah really breaks everything down and is like that best friend to give you the courage when you have little to none.
ChristineKP 2024/05/22
Thank you for sharing :)
Love your vulnerability and willingness to share your journey, Shinah :) it’s so encouraging and inspiring to hear!
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