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Welcome to The Bitcoin Collective podcast with Jordan Walker. Are you sick of finance bros and techie nerds saying to learn Bitcoin but then leaving you high and dry? Don’t worry, I’ve got you. On this podcast, you’ll hear real, honest and relatable stories, news and guests from the Bitcoin space. Nothing techie and geared towards helping you understand and keep up with Bitcoin.
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The Berkshire Hathaway Model, Rebuilt Around Bitcoin | Nico Lechuga #232
2026/10/16
Private equity buys a business, loads it with debt, and sells it within five years. Orange Juice wants to buy the business, keep the owner in place, and never sell it at all.
Nico Lechuga is a founding partner at Ego Death Capital, a Bitcoin venture fund with around $137 million under management. Alongside fellow Ego Death partners Lyn Alden, Jeff Booth and Andi Pitt, he co-founded Orange Juice, a permanent capital vehicle that acquires cash flow positive businesses and sweeps those cash flows into Bitcoin.
The team also includes partners Ruben Zweiban, a former JP Morgan analyst and US Navy SEAL, and Adrian Steckel, the former CEO of OneWeb, plus newly appointed CTO Elias Martinez Cohen, previously an AI infrastructure engineer at NVIDIA and Twitter.
Since announcing, more than 150 businesses have reached out.
🍊 Find out more about Orange Juice: https://orangejuice.com/
Topics covered:
Why Orange Juice was designed as a foil to traditional private equity, not a Bitcoin treasury company
How the Berkshire Hathaway model shaped the owner operator structure
Why they’re raising privately first and proving the thesis before going public
The gearbox model — how they decide between reinvesting, buying Bitcoin or acquiring more businesses
Which types of businesses they’re targeting and why generational companies keep showing up
Why they’re already open to businesses outside the US
Nico’s Bitcoin journey — from a Vice article on the Silk Road to Jeff Booth changing everything
How AI factors into acquisition due diligence without distracting owner operators
Why a good Bitcoin solution should work like a light switch — no evangelism required
Chapters:
00:00 Intro — There Is a Better Treasury Asset Than Fiat
01:00 What Is Orange Juice and Why Was It Built?
02:00 Ego Death Capital — The Fund Behind the Idea
05:00 The Gap Nobody Had Filled for Cash Flow Business Owners
07:00 How Orange Juice Acquires Businesses — The Berkshire Model
09:00 Owner Operators, Equity and the No Earn-Out Structure
11:00 Why There’s No Time Clock — The Permanent Capital Difference
12:00 The Gearbox — How They Decide Where the Cash Goes
15:00 Real World Example: A UK Hotel Group and the Bitcoin Question
18:00 Which Sectors and Business Types Are Being Targeted
20:00 Generational Businesses and the Bitcoin Connection
22:00 Why They Went Private First Before Planning a Listing
28:00 Will Orange Juice Expand Outside the US?
35:00 Will Sweeping Cash Into Bitcoin Become the Norm?
38:00 Nico’s Bitcoin Journey — Silk Road, Jeff Booth and the Click Moment
47:00 How AI Factors Into Acquisition Due Diligence
51:00 Keeping Owner Operators Focused on What They Do Best
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FIND Nico Lechuga:
X: https://x.com/nico_lechuga
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolailechuga/
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/
Email: [email protected]
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All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.
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EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE
www.selectedfrequencies.com
Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms. This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.
They’re Buying Real Businesses, Sweeping the Cash Into Bitcoin — And 150 Companies Have Already Applied
The Permanent Capital Vehicle Designed to Outlast Private Equity
How a Family Business Added Bitcoin Without Changing Anything | Stuart Lee Archer #231
2026/10/06
Pumphreys Coffee was founded in the 1750s. It has been in Stuart's family since 1979, four generations have worked in it, and his first Bitcoin transaction is framed on the wall downstairs.
Jordan Walker travelled up to Blaydon, just outside Newcastle, to see the roastery, watch beans go through an open flame, and talk to Stuart about what it takes to build something that outlives you.
☕️ Check out Pumphrey's Coffee: https://pumphreys-coffee.co.uk/
Topics covered:
Why Pumphreys still roasts over a naked open flame when almost nobody else does
The history of a company founded in the 1750s and bought by Stuart's grandfather in 1979
Why the experience around the coffee matters more than the taste of the coffee
Where AI might actually help a hands-on business, and where it absolutely cannot
Stuart's Bitcoin journey, including buying the top twice
Why adding Bitcoin payments through Musqet meant changing almost nothing
How he replied to a customer who complained about Bitcoin and the environment
Whether accepting Bitcoin has actually brought new customers through the door
What he thinks it takes for a business to still be trading in 2140
Why Bitcoiners are often the most risk-averse people in the room
Chapters:
00:00 Intro — Bitcoiners Are the Lowest Risk People in the Room
01:00 Open Flame Coffee Roasting — How Pumphreys Does It Differently
04:00 The Pumphreys Story — Founded in 1750, Family-Owned Since 1979
08:00 What Pumphreys Actually Does — Roasting, Training, Machinery and Retail
15:00 How the Business Has Adapted Over 25 Years
20:00 Coffee Trends — What's Coming Next After Matcha
23:30 AI and Automation in a Relationship-First Business
28:00 The Experience of Coffee — Why Atmosphere Matters as Much as Taste
32:00 Stuart's Bitcoin Journey — Buying the Top in 2017
35:30 Running the Newcastle Bitcoin Meetup
36:30 Accepting Bitcoin at Pumphreys — How the Decision Was Made
40:00 The Viral Customer Complaint — and Stuart's Reply
44:00 Has Accepting Bitcoin Brought New Customers?
46:00 Building a Business to Last — Lessons From 275 Years
Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://www.joinbbn.com/
FIND Stuart Lee Archer:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuartleearcher
CONTACT JORDAN:
X: https://x.com/JayW132
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/
Email: [email protected]
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All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.
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EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE
www.selectedfrequencies.com
Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms. This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.
This Coffee Company Was Founded in the 1750s, Now It Accepts Bitcoin.
How a Family Business Added Bitcoin Without Changing Anything
Bitcoin, AI and the Way Out of the Permanent Underclass | Fernando Nikolić #230
2026/09/11
Fernando left his job as VP of Marketing at Blockstream to build a product on his own. Seven months later, still in beta, it was profitable. He has no employees, no investors and no board. Just a fleet of agents and a very clear view of where all this is heading.
He joins Jordan Walker to talk about what building actually looks like now, why the hardest part is no longer the code, and what happens to everyone who isn't a builder.
In this episode with Fernando:
Why the coding is now the easy part, and selling is still the hard part
Leaving Blockstream to go solo, and what he doesn't miss about managing a team
The moment in a demo call that tells you the truth
Running a business on a fleet of agents instead of employees
Why so much company content has started to sound identical
What happens to jobs when firms stop hiring altogether
Holding something scarce when the money supply isn't
Chapters:
00:00 Coming up
01:50 Seeing an early Perception demo
04:00 When AI was a glorified Stack Overflow
06:00 Does this feel like the early internet?
10:00 The trap of feeling productive
12:00 Coding is commoditised, selling isn't
16:00 Leaving Blockstream to build Perception
18:30 Nobody wanted the dashboard
21:00 The pivot to agents and MCP
25:30 The money moment is the honest moment
28:30 Can you lean on AI too much?
36:30 What agents actually save you
45:30 The real problem with AI slop
49:20 Profitable in beta, bootstrapped, solo
58:00 Jobs, ten years out
01:03:20 Hold something scarce
🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://www.joinbbn.com/
FIND FERNANDO:
X - https://x.com/basedlayer?lang=en
Bitcoin Perception - https://bitcoinperception.com
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X: https://x.com/JayW132
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/
Email: [email protected]
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EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE
www.selectedfrequencies.com
Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms. This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.
Nobody Wanted His Dashboard, So He Binned It
He Left Blockstream to Build Alone
Why Coding Is Now the Easy Part
Britain's £135 Billion Premium Bonds Delusion | Jordan Walker #229
2026/08/19
14.3 million people in the UK hold premium bonds and have never won a single prize. Not £25. Not once.
That stat sent Jordan down a rabbit hole this week, and what he found underneath it is worse. 23 million people hold £135 billion in premium bonds, making it the UK's most popular savings product — while the average prize winner is sitting on around £23,400 and 94% of £1 million jackpot winners held over £10,000 in bonds. Then there's the bigger problem: £610 billion of long-term UK cash with no job to do at all.
Premium Bonds Article: https://bitcoincollective.co/blog/premium-bonds-why-winning-feels-like-losing
In this solo episode:
• Where premium bonds came from in 1956, and why ERNIE has a Bletchley Park connection
• The Freedom of Information request that revealed who never wins
• Why even winning can still be losing once you account for purchasing power
• How premium bonds became the cheapest borrowing the state has
• The £610 billion sitting idle, and why the UK has the lowest investing rate in the G7
Chapters:
00:00 Why premium bonds sent me down a rabbit hole
00:55 1956: ERNIE, Colossus and a "squalid raffle"
02:00 The UK's most popular savings product
02:55 Two thirds have never won a prize
03:40 Why the wins go to the already wealthy
04:35 Even winning is losing
06:15 The cheapest borrowing the state has
07:30 £610 billion with no job to do
09:15 Rates rose and Britain saved harder
11:15 8% vs 33% — and why I talk about Bitcoin
🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://www.joinbbn.com/
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X: https://x.com/JayW132
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/
Email: [email protected]
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All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.
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EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE
www.selectedfrequencies.com
Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms. This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.
There Is Up To £2m Of Bitcoin Still Hidden In Yorkshire | Nic Cary #228
2026/08/06
Nic Cary reckons there is still up to £2m of Bitcoin buried in geocaches across Yorkshire. He hid it himself, more than thirteen years ago.
He first heard about Bitcoin in 2011, on a small fishing boat on the Long Island Sound. A few years later he moved from the United States to York with a backpack and helped build the first block explorer for Bitcoin out of a two-bedroom flat near the racecourse.
That project became Blockchain.com. It now has offices in six countries, an FCA registration, a MiCA licence covering Europe, and a confidential SEC filing ahead of a US listing.
In this episode:
• The fishing trip that started it
• Why the company was built in York rather than London
• The paper wallets hidden across Yorkshire, and what they were worth
• From block explorer to wallet, and the case for holding your own keys
• Polymarket, Snap Markets and tokenised stocks
• How to explain Bitcoin without arguing with people
• Why machines, not people, may make most payments within ten years
• The three things he thinks everyone should read
Timestamps:
00:00 Coming Up
00:40 Intro
01:13 Hearing about Bitcoin on a fishing boat in 2011
06:12 Websites, clams and Pipeline CRM
08:42 Why blockchain.com started in York
12:46 Bitcoin hidden in geocaches across Yorkshire
14:57 What it was worth at the time
15:43 From block explorer to building a wallet
18:03 Self-custody versus handing your money over
20:26 Polymarket, Snap Markets and tokenised stocks
22:20 How Nic's approach to explaining Bitcoin changed
25:06 Store of value, stablecoins and peer-to-peer cash
27:14 Why machines will transact in digital money
29:33 FCA approval, MiCA and the SEC filing
32:12 Three things everyone should read
🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://www.joinbbn.com/
CONTACT JORDAN:
X: https://x.com/JayW132
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/
Email: [email protected]
CONTACT Nic:
X: https://x.com/niccary?lang=en
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ncary/
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All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.
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EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/
Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms. This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.
The Bitcoin Bottom, Family Offices and the UK Exodus | Richard Byworth #227
2026/07/30
The pound has lost 95% of its purchasing power since 1971. Bitcoin is down 50% from its highs and the mood online is grim. Richard Byworth thinks the bottom is already in, and he's got the receipts to back it up.
Jordan sits down with returning guest Richard Byworth to unpack why he believes the market is showing classic seller exhaustion, why family offices are quietly moving into bitcoin, and why the UK's wealthy are heading for the exit.
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X: https://x.com/JayW132
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/
Email: [email protected]
CONTACT RICHARD:
X: https://x.com/RichardByworth
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In this episode:
- Why the four year cycle narrative might be doing more harm than good
Reading £17 billion of bitcoin selling as a bottom signal, not a warning
- Why capital rotating into AI could eventually rotate back into bitcoin
- How family offices are being educated on bitcoin without ever mentioning the word
- Bitcoin treasury companies, M Nav premiums and where the next bull run could come from
- Why the UK is losing its wealthiest people, and what that means for the country
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro — bitcoin is the value trade
00:35 Welcome back and catching up
02:26 Is the four-year cycle still real
07:22 Reading seller exhaustion in the market
08:32 AI, SpaceX and the capital rotation debate
09:12 The STRC post that caused a stir
12:41 Four years on: how far the bottom has moved
14:32 Educating family offices on bitcoin
20:56 Will institutions dominate bitcoin adoption
23:00 A different perspective on the UK from the outside
29:44 UK wealth, tax and the talent exodus
42:28 Bitcoin treasury companies and the next bull market
52:01 European consolidation and liquidity
53:19 Do banks see bitcoin as a threat to deposits
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All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.
Bitcoin's Bottom: Why Richard Byworth Isn't Worried
The UK Wealth Exodus No One's Talking About
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EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/
Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms. This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.
Bitcoin Treasury Companies, Digital Credit and Where Bitcoin Goes Next | Ben Harvey #226
2026/07/22
Bitcoin is down around 50% from its all-time high and the sentiment is brutal. So is this the bottom? Ben, an analyst at Keyrock, thinks there are real signs it might already be in — and that what comes next is bigger than most people realise.
In one of the most detailed conversations the podcast has hosted, Ben joins Jordan to explain why the current drawdown may mark a bottom, why volatility is steadily compressing, and why Bitcoin treasury companies and digital credit could unlock his whole thesis, an entire financial system built on top of Bitcoin as a reserve asset.
Topics covered:
- Why the largest pools of capital in the world can't hold Bitcoin directly — yet
- The signs Ben is watching that suggest this could be a bottom for Bitcoin
- Why volatility acts as a capital charge, and why it's in a long-term compression trend
- How the shift from traders to long-term holders changed this cycle
- Why Bitcoin treasury companies could unlock the entire Bitcoin thesis
- What digital credit is and why it could be the most exciting part of the Bitcoin thesis
- Why Strategy selling a small amount of Bitcoin was widely misunderstood
- Why European treasury companies look cheap — and why that discount is a mirage
- Why money backed by Bitcoin may make more sense than Bitcoin itself as money
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro — Bitcoin is only stomachable for volatility
01:00 Welcome and Ben's background at QCP
02:00 QCP's shift from market maker to asset manager
04:00 Ben's unusual route into Bitcoin via smart contracts
08:00 Reasons this could be a cycle bottom
13:00 75% of holders are now long-term
21:00 Volatility as a capital charge that compresses with price
25:00 What sparked the digital asset treasury report
27:00 The endgame: a financial system built on Bitcoin
30:00 Bringing European Bitcoin treasuries into focus
32:00 Two paths to Bitcoin becoming money
48:00 Herd mentality in crypto
49:00 Why prefs haven't come to Europe yet
56:00 Smarter Web's £210m share premium unlock
1:01:00 How big could the first issuance be?
1:07:00 Final prediction: what will it be called?
🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://www.joinbbn.com/
CONTACT JORDAN:
X: https://x.com/JayW132
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/
Email: [email protected]
CONTACT BEN:
X: https://x.com/0xbenharvey
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-harvey-842495172/
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All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.
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EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/
Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms. This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.
Bitcoin Feels Like 2022 Again, And That's Not a Bad Sign
2026/07/14
The mood right now is identical to late 2022. The headlines are the same. The panic is the same. But the world around bitcoin looks nothing like it did back then.Jordan's back after six weeks off the tools — not because things have calmed down, but because this moment feels too familiar to ignore. This solo episode walks through why the current sentiment mirrors the last bear market bottom, what's changed beyond recognition since then, and why going quiet and building is exactly the right move right now.
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CONTACT
JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132
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Email: [email protected]
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Topics covered:- Why mid-2026 feels so much like November 2022 — and what that actually signals- What's changed in four years: BlackRock, sovereign wealth funds, Square, JP Morgan- Bitcoin being declared dead 475 times — and what that pattern actually looks like- Why AI pulling capital makes bitcoin more relevant, not less- The Bitcoin Business Network hitting 100+ UK businesses- What's been built behind the scenes and what's coming very soonCHAPTERS 00:00 Intro — why Jordan's been quiet for six weeks01:06 Where bitcoin is right now02:30 Flashback to November 2022 and the $15k bottom04:30 What's changed in four years — JP Morgan, ETFs, Square, sovereign funds06:30 bitcoindeaths.com — declared dead 475 times08:00 The four-year cycle and shaking out the tourists09:15 AI is pulling attention and capital11:00 Why bitcoin is the one thing AI can't copy12:39 The Bitcoin Business Network — 100+ UK businesses14:30 Why in-person relationships matter in a digital age16:00 New website and removing friction for businesses18:00 A big announcement is coming20:00 Bear markets are for building20:37 What's next — podcast is back
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All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.
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EDITED BY JAMES PEARCE
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/
Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.
This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice. Always do your own research.
The Story of a Hotelier Who Discovered Bitcoin Nine Months Ago and Is Already Thinking in Sats | Nicholas Dickinson #224
2026/05/27
Nicholas Dickinson bought his first significant Bitcoin stack on the all-time high. Three months later he was 40% underwater. He didn't panic. He read more books and bought more.
Nicholas is a hotelier with 40 years in the industry — currently running a 50-acre country house hotel in Norfolk. He's also one of the newest, and arguably fastest-moving, members of the Bitcoin Business Network. In just nine months he's thinking in Bitcoin, buying at what the power law tells him is a 50% discount, and working out how to bring Bitcoin into a 40-year hospitality business without losing his board.
🇬🇧 Find out more about the Bitcoin Business Network: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/
In this episode, Jordan and Nicholas get into:
- How The Price of Tomorrow started it all — before Nicholas even knew he was looking for Bitcoin
- Why the power law gave him more conviction than anything else he'd read
- The internal challenge of getting fellow stakeholders and a spouse on board
- Why he thinks most people know the system is broken — but can't believe the fix could be this simple
- What accepting Bitcoin at the hotel actually looks like as a first step
- Why storing business cash reserves in Bitcoin is, to Nicholas, just common sense.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro — "The problem's too big. Yes, there is a simple solution."
01:00 Welcome and Nicholas's background in hospitality
04:00 How Congham Hall came out of administration and became his longest-ever project
06:00 What makes Congham Hall different — 50 acres, spa, orchard cabins
08:00 The realities of running a profitable hotel in the UK
10:00 100 local staff and why that's almost unheard of in hospitality
15:00 The Snail Racing World Championships — a Guinness World Record
20:00 Where did Bitcoin first come up? From drug dealers to deep curiosity
21:00 The Price of Tomorrow, What's the Problem, and the lightbulb moment
24:00 Pete Matthew, The Bitcoin Advisor, and getting properly into the rabbit hole
28:00 Buying at the all-time high and what happened next
31:00 The power law — why it gave Nicholas more conviction than anything else
38:00 Thinking in sats, DCA strategy and filtering out the noise
44:00 How Bitcoin changed his outlook on his kids' futures
47:00 The challenge of getting stakeholders and a spouse on board
51:00 "The problem's too big to be solved this simply" — and why that's wrong
57:00 Accepting Bitcoin at the hotel — the vision and the baby steps
CONTACT JORDAN:
X: https://x.com/JayW132
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/
Email: [email protected]
CONTACT NICHOLAS:
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholasdickinson/
Congham Hall - https://www.conghamhallhotel.co.uk
Email😉 - [email protected]
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"The Problem's Too Big." Why Most People Dismiss Bitcoin Even When They Know the System Is Broken
Why Nicholas Thinks Inflation Is the Real Problem — and Why Bitcoin Is the Only Fix
Why a 40-Year Hotelier Is Selling His Buy-to-Let Portfolio and Putting It All in Bitcoin
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What Would a Bitcoin-Native Bank Actually Look Like? | Piotr Bedkowski #223
2026/05/21
The pound has lost 95% of its purchasing power since 1971. Every fiat currency in history has eventually gone to zero. Bitcoin might be the first money that actually holds its value — and building the financial services around it is what Piotr, Product Manager at Xapo Bank, has spent years working on.
In this episode, Jordan sits down with Piotr to explore:
How Piotr Bedkowski went from ING Bank sceptic to fully orange-pilled BitcoinerWhy Xapo Bank only holds USD and BTC — and why that's a deliberate choiceThe case for borrowing against Bitcoin instead of selling itHow Xapo's underground vaults earned the nickname "Fort Knox of Bitcoin"Why rehypothecation of collateral is off the table at Xapo — full stopEarning yield and monthly Bitcoin income from your existing stackWhat the "iPhone moment" for global Bitcoin adoption might actually look likeWhy Bitcoin-backed lending rates should, in theory, be the lowest in the world
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro — Bitcoin is currency for the people
01:00 Welcome and Piotr's background
02:00 Joining Xapo Bank and building wealth products
04:00 Bitcoin-backed lending and yield on Bitcoin
06:00 Discovering Bitcoin twice — and why most people do
09:00 Looking for the next Bitcoin (and why that's a mistake)
10:00 Currency debasement — Argentina, Europe, and everywhere else
13:00 The history of money and why fiat always fails
17:00 What Xapo Bank is actually building and why
19:00 Self-custody vs. custodial — meeting people where they are
22:00 Inside Xapo's vaults — the Fort Knox of Bitcoin
27:00 MPC security and why transactions are now near-instant
32:00 How Xapo decides what products to build next
38:00 Bitcoin-backed cards and what's coming
42:00 Zero rehypothecation — and why it matters
44:00 The iPhone moment and Bitcoin's next ten years
48:00 Why Bitcoin-backed lending rates should be the lowest
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Borrow Against Bitcoin Without Selling a Single Sat — Xapo Bank's Product Manager Explains How
Why Every Fiat Currency Eventually Goes to Zero — and What Comes Next
Bitcoin-Backed Loans, Yield, and the Future of Money With Xapo Bank
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The Plan to Put a Bitcoiner in Every Boardroom on Earth | Scott Ellam #222
2026/05/14
What if every executive recruiter on the planet became a Bitcoiner? That's not a thought experiment, it's Scott Ellam's actual plan.Scott is back on the show six months after taking XCE public. He breaks down how XCE is solving the three biggest problems facing private recruitment companies — cash leakage, scaling headcount, and the near-impossible exit — by structuring the entire business around a Bitcoin treasury.🇬🇧 Join the UK Bitcoin Business Network here: https://bitcoincollective.co/bbn/CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: [email protected] SCOTT:💬 X: https://x.com/btconlyscott💼 LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/scott-p-ellam-5a097449Topics covered:- Why XCE presented at Bitcoin 2025 in Las Vegas as the first traditional operating business built around an active Bitcoin treasury- Accepting 0.516 Bitcoin as payment for a recruitment fee — and what comes next- How Adam Back has followed on through multiple raises, including a recent equity raise where 100% went into Bitcoin- XCE's performance-based equity scheme and how it's already attracting staff who aren't even Bitcoin-native- AI in executive recruitment — what it can do, what it can't, and why person-to-person roles may be the safest careers going forward- International settlement pain, stablecoins, and where Bitcoin fitsTIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro — Disrupting global executive recruitment with Bitcoin01:00 Welcome back: six months since the pre-IPO episode01:30 Bitcoin 2025 Las Vegas — what the conference felt like03:00 Who was in the room: institutions, nation states and Michael Saylor05:30 XCE's Vegas presentation: the first Bitcoin-treasury operating business06:30 The three biggest problems for private recruitment companies08:00 How XCE solves cash, scale and exit using Bitcoin10:00 Educating the recruitment industry on Bitcoin13:00 How private owners can join the XCE group without needing to self-custody17:00 Talent retention: Bitcoin-backed equity and the IPL analogy21:00 How XCE attracted staff who weren't Bitcoin-native28:30 Accepting 0.516 BTC as a recruitment fee — how it happened33:30 International settlement, stablecoins and Bitcoin rails38:00 The latest raise, Adam Back's continued backing and what's next41:30 AI inside XCE — from negotiation training to full business integration49:00 The K-shaped AI recovery and why high-skill careers will pull ahead55:00 Roadmap: growing Bitcoin per share, acquisitions and global disruptionREAD OUR NEWSLETTER:https://newsletter.bitcoincollective.co/LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06sBiOznJDxuhafDmkE9VK?si=3f0a8bb8abd64eecApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-bitcoin-collective/id1561573613Fountain: https://fountain.fm/show/AYHiNhTTv0HOgGEjRjWNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bitcoincollective?sub_confirmation=1All content provided by The Bitcoin Collective and guests in this episode is for informational and educational purposes only and is not financial, trading, or investment advice.The Plan to Put a Bitcoiner in Every Boardroom on EarthHow a UK Recruitment Company Is Using Bitcoin to Disrupt a Global IndustryHow to Use Bitcoin to Solve the Three Biggest Problems in Recruitment⸻EDITED BY JAMES PEARCELinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-pearcesf/Available now on YouTube and all major podcast platforms.
Why the UK Is Drifting on Bitcoin, And How to Fix It | Ben Cousens #221
2026/05/07
The UK has the talent, the capital, and the financial infrastructure. So why are Bitcoin founders still hesitating?
Ben Cousens — Chief Strategy Officer at ZBD, co-founder of Antidote, and one of the few people who’s been backing Bitcoin businesses from inside venture capital — joins Jordan on the rooftop at Antidote’s Hatton Garden space to get into it.
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CONTACT JORDAN:X: https://x.com/JayW132LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-walker-293955106/Email: [email protected]
CONTACT BEN:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bencousens/Website: https://antidotebtc.com/
TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Intro — The UK Is Drifting, Not Falling Behind01:37 Ben’s Background — Video Games, Film and a Hard Pivot to Finance03:00 How Ben First Encountered Bitcoin04:15 The Hairdresser Top Signal and Selling at the 2017 Peak06:25 Top Three Video Games of All Time08:24 Getting Sign-Off to Research Bitcoin Inside a VC Fund09:33 Building a Bitcoin Investment Thesis at Lake Star11:15 What Is ZBD and How Does It Work?15:59 ZBD’s $40M Series C19:29 What People Get Wrong About Building Bitcoin Businesses25:15 The Moment Ben Decided to Found Antidote28:31 The UK Isn’t Falling Behind — It’s Drifting33:32 What Kind of Founders Is Antidote Looking For?38:48 How Early Do You Need to Be to Apply?41:50 Why Antidote Is Based on Hatton Garden49:53 Where Does Ben Want Antidote to Be in Five Years?
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This Is What Bitcoin Adoption Actually Looks Like | Will Reeves #220
2026/04/30
A fast food chain integrated Bitcoin payments in a matter of weeks, and same-store sales went up 10%. That’s not a marketing stunt. That’s the flywheel starting to turn.
Will Reeves, CEO of Fold, joins Jordan to break down what Bitcoin adoption actually looks like for businesses right now — and why the companies moving early are building advantages that will be almost impossible to close later.
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Website: https://x.com/willreeves
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro — Every Business Activity Should Earn You Bitcoin
01:00 What Is Fold and How Does It Work?
06:00 Bitcoin Rewards — Meeting People Where They Are
10:00 Why Most People Get Into Bitcoin Through Skin in the Game
15:00 Will’s Personal Bitcoin Origin Story
20:30 Fold for Business — How It Started
24:00 The Steak and Shake Bitcoin Bonus Programme
28:00 Will Businesses Start Rewarding Customers in Bitcoin?
32:00 Why the Infrastructure Flywheel Is Finally Ready
36:30 The Supply Chain Effect — Bitcoin Daisy-Chaining Through Industries
46:00 Fold Is Not a Bitcoin Treasury Company — Here’s Why
49:30 “Bitcoin Is Not the Goal. The Life It Enables Is.”
54:00 What’s Coming Next for Fold and Bitcoin Business Adoption
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Why This Non-profit Started Accepting Bitcoin | Dr Sheela Sharma #219
2026/04/15
A nonprofit in West London is accepting Bitcoin donations to fund the next generation of entrepreneurs — and it all started with one conversation at a judging panel.
Sheela Sharma is CEO of Portobello Business Centre, a 30-year-old nonprofit that helps underserved entrepreneurs — 70% of them women — start and grow their own businesses. Before that, she spent 14 years in investment banking, including as an equity analyst at Merrill Lynch covering medical devices and pharma. She came in knowing nothing about finance. She left as a COO.
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Website: https://www.pbc.co.uk/
00:00 Opening clip — Bitcoin donations for entrepreneurs
00:40 Introduction and welcome
01:30 From Oxford DPhil to Merrill Lynch — the unlikely pivot
03:30 Learning to value medical technology companies
05:30 "What is a share price?" — the interview moment
06:30 14 years in investment banking: analyst to COO
07:30 Why she left — and what pushed her out
08:30 Joining Portobello Business Centre as chair, then CEO
10:00 The brands PBC has supported — Innocent Drinks, Charlie Bigham's, Karen Millen
12:00 Why PBC started accepting Bitcoin
14:00 Getting set up: Strike, Coin Corner and the Sustainable Society Trust
16:30 Understanding Bitcoin six months in
19:00 The utility of Bitcoin as a payment and store of value
21:00 Financial education in the UK — what's missing
24:00 Should entrepreneurship be taught in schools?
27:30 The scrunchie business — born at age 11
31:00 Roberta Huntington, Vinted and the power of simple ideas
34:00 Entrepreneurship as mindset — can it be taught?
39:00 The businesses PBC supports today
44:00 Why storytelling wins pitches
45:00 B Corp certification explained
48:00 The Bitcoin and B Corp community overlap
53:00 Bitcoin's future role in funding early-stage entrepreneurs
59:00 One piece of advice for anyone thinking about starting a business
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Building the UK's Biggest Bitcoin Treasury Company | Andrew Webley #218
2026/04/07
Andrew Webley is back for episode three. Since we last spoke in July, Smarter Web Company has achieved its London Stock Exchange main market listing, entered the FTSE All Share and FTSE Small Cap indices, grown its Bitcoin stack to nearly 2,700 BTC, and completed an acquisition that has grown revenue by roughly 10x. Not bad for a bear market.
Jordan sits back down with Andrew to find out what's next, what Saylor told him at Strategy World, why he believes a Bitcoin treasury company will one day be the biggest company in the UK, and what a UK income equity product could look like.
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CONTACT JORDAN:
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Email: [email protected]
FOLLOW ANDREW:
X: https://x.com/asjwebley
Website: https://www.smarterwebcompany.co.uk/
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Coming up
00:34 Andrew returns to the podcast
02:15 Why bear markets help builders
02:58 What SWC achieved in the last six months
03:48 FTSE index inclusion and what it means
05:19 Share price vs MNAV frustration
07:22 What shareholders should track instead of price
08:44 Why treasuries can beat ETFs over time
13:20 The three education jobs SWC must do
15:44 What Andrew saw at Strategy World
22:26 Debanking still holding the UK back
25:27 Everything slowly then suddenly
28:19 Next milestones FTSE 250 and beyond
34:39 What the LSE listing changed with institutions
38:07 Stretch and the idea of UK income equity
45:19 Why the operating business matters
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