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2021/04/29
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2026/09/19
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47 min.
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David K. Shipler & Daniel Zwerdling have spent their lives investigating thorny and neglected issues, winning journalism’s top awards along the way. Now join Dave and Danny on TWO REPORTERS, as they interview stellar guests about pressing social problems and solutions - and just fascinating stuff - in ways you haven’t heard before. Advisory: Episodes may contain laughing, arguing and moments of irreverence.

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We hope our elections guru is right: Trump CAN'T steal the elections (at least probably not) / From the archives
2026/09/19
David Becker - who runs the nonpartisan Center for Election, Innovation and Research - says Trump is trying to sabotage free and fair elections, yes. But David says the election system is so decentralized, and the vast majority of election officials are so principled, and judges have been so consistent rejecting Trump's illegal efforts to meddle, that your vote will matter as always. For the record though, let's remember some of what Trump and his minions have been doing: His Justice Department is suing states to get their voter rolls. Trump's FBI has raided election centers, and might show up at them on election day. Trump's allies have installed election deniers on state voting boards. Trump supporters have floated a draft plan for him to declare a national emergency before the elections and seize control. But David says don't let that scare you: Vote!
Here's a perfect way to start wrapping up your summer ...
2026/08/29
Read Dave's moving new book of short fiction: The Unfinished Sentence And Other Stories. Short stories are the perfect way to celebrate the moments when you're not hectic with work or chores or other daily tasks. Get a cup of coffee or tea (or stronger beverage of choice), settle onto a comfortable chair or bench, and enjoy Dave's beautifully-crafted descriptions and profound insights - all in one sitting. As Dave describes his collection, "In a world loosened from the anchors of morality, assortments of quirky characters search for scruples among others and themselves. They bump up against some surprising limits, suffer self doubts, yet often emerge victorious over the absence of virtue. The high school girl with invisible brilliance ... The crusty caretaker of an island who possesses but does not own his native ancestors’ land. The optician whose magical glasses offer vision to the morally blind ..." And other memorable tales. You can buy Dave's book in paperback.
Hear what this amazing teacher and his students pulled off - and how they shook government! / From the archives
2026/08/08
An English teacher at Middletown High School in New York State gave students video cameras back in the 1990s, and told them to tell compelling stories. Result: They uncovered illegal dumping of toxic wastes tied to the mob, and then made films about it - which shook the community and triggered government investigations. A documentary about their real-life drama, Teenage Wasteland, has electrified film festivals and now you can see it on Netflix. The teacher who guided the project, Fred Isseks, joins us with two of his former student investigators, Rachel Raimist and Jeff Dutemple. And they say the most important outcome was bigger than exposing illegal dumping: They learned how to ask tough questions, challenge government officials, and sort facts from lies.
Ethnic Cleansing on the West Bank: An Israeli researcher documents how violent Israeli settlers are terrorizing Palestinians and forcing them to flee their homes and land.
2026/07/18
With their government's and military's support, vigilante Israeli settlers are converting key villages and swaths of land into Palestinian-free zones, to thwart any prospect that Palestinians could create their own nation there. Dror Etkes, a former Israeli soldier who got his “political education” invading Palestinian homes, describes the systematic strategy behind the campaign, its human cost to Palestinian families he knows, and the dangerous implications for the future. Check out the brave and innovative research that Dror and his colleagues are doing under the umbrella of their organization, Kerem Navot.
Want to know how to inspire young kids to embrace social action? / From the archives
2026/06/27
Use music! Protest songs in the 1960s galvanized a generation - although singer-songwriter Anya Rose and the group Ants on a Log write social action songs to help children in primary school learn about problems from environmental pollution to racist and sexist behavior. Anya says she was inspired in part by satirist Tom Lehrer, remember him? Warning: After hearing these tunes, the 9-year-olds in your family might feel inspired to organize your neighbors around a controversial issue - and then write your members of Congress about it.
When many African Americans speak, what are they speaking? / From the archive
2026/06/06
They're speaking African American English, according to linguist Lisa Green at the University of Massachusetts Amherst - in other words, "it's not mainstream English with mistakes." Lisa grew up speaking AAE in Louisiana, and since then, her ground-breaking research has found that AAE is based on a system of consistent grammatical rules, pronunciations and definitions. Some call it a dialect, which evolved from the African languages that slaves spoke blended with plantation English; in fact, when someone says, "she aks" instead of "she asks," they might be echoing Old English from centuries ago. Lisa argues that schools need to acknowledge and respect black children's African American English, even while they teach them Standard American English that they need to succeed in broader society.
Isn't this the perfect time to lose yourself in a captivating novel? / From the archive
2026/05/17
Yes! (Danny's writing this) - especially when the author is my co-host, David K. Shipler.  Dave's novel, The Interpreter - now out in paperback - takes us into the rice paddies and twisting alleys of Vietnam, right after US troops fled the war there in 1973. But Dave explores provocative issues that would resonate in Iran or China or any country where interpreters play a crucial role for Americans. David Ignatius, the acclaimed associate editor and columnist of the The Washington Post, reviews it like this: "Shipler captures the awful truth that every correspondent knows - that we are unworthy of the brave men and women who act as our translators and ‘fixers,’ the solitary heroes living between two languages and cultures but refusing to take sides." Dave's novel raises provocative questions, sure, but some of my favorite parts are like Vietnam travelogs: images of streets pulsing with motorbikes piled with families, chickens and guavas; lush jungles and spidery canals; and Vietnam's foul-smelling but magical-tasting fish sauce.
Would you risk your job - or worse - to blow the whistle on government colleagues breaking the law?
2026/04/25
Since Trump returned to the White House, more than 1750 potential  whistleblowers have asked for help from the Government Accountability Project, says GAP -  a leading group that gives legal advice to whistleblowers and tries to protect them. That's more than triple the number during the last year of the Biden administration, which is even more remarkable when you consider how Trump and his enablers have made revenge a priority. One of the federal employees who asked GAP for help is Erez Reuveni, the Justice Department lawyer who told them that a top DOJ official had ordered him to say "F**k you" to the courts, if they tried to block Trump's illegal actions. Dana Gold, one of GAP's senior lawyers, tells us the moving story of how Reuveni came to her and agonized over what to do - and then risked his career, and potentially his family's safety, by standing up for truth and justice. PS: Trump rewarded the DOJ official who said F-you to the courts by making him an appeals court judge.
Trump's corruption keeps getting worse. Why isn't it illegal?
2026/04/04
As astonishing as it might seem - among all the astonishing changes in today’s America - it turns out that there is no legal way to stop Trump from profiteering from his presidency, even when it damages the nation's interests. We're learning that laws have always been important, but the main reason that America's democracy endured was because most people - from the president on down - followed a set of behavioral norms: They knew it was wrong to act like a dictator, and to make government decisions designed mainly to make them richer. Walter Shaub, former head of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics, details Trump’s corruption in a gripping, distressing conversation. And he has urgent advice for government employees who do, despite Trump, want to act ethically.
Will Trump really be able to mess with elections? He's trying.
2026/03/14
Trump is calling on Congressional Republicans to "nationalize" elections. His Justice Department is suing states to get their voter rolls. Trump's FBI has raided election centers. Trump's allies are installing election deniers on state voting boards. And now Trump supporters are floating a draft plan for him to declare a national emergency before the elections and seize control. So why on earth does our guest, David Becker, feel confident that America's elections will turn out to be free and fair? David - who runs the nonpartisan Center for Election, Innovation and Research - says the election system is so decentralized, and the vast majority of election officials are so principled, and judges have been so consistent rejecting Trump's efforts to meddle, that your vote will matter as always. So, David says, vote!
Are you kidding? We have debtors' prisons in America?? / From the archive
2026/02/28
The US government outlawed debtors' prisons in the 1830s, the Supreme Court ruled they're unconstitutional more than 40 years ago, and you'll find sentences like this on the internet: "Today it is illegal to put someone in prison because of a debt." So how is it that courts across the country lock up thousands of low-income people each year, according to estimates, because they haven't paid up their traffic tickets, garbage collection bills and other minor violations? Lisa Foster, a former judge and co-founder of the Fines and Fees Justice Center, says many courts have become "a place of oppression" because they "make the measure of justice the measure of someone's wealth. That is fundamentally un-American and it is unjust," Lisa tells us. "But our system does it every day."
Can you guess which country has the worst death rate of almost any wealthy nation? Hint: America.
2026/02/07
So much for the "greatest country on earth." Recent studies show that if Americans died at the same rate as people do in average European countries, which Trump derides, at least half a million Americans who die each year would likely have lived. And the biggest difference is among people younger than 65. Our guests - epidemiologist Jacob Bor at Boston University and Katherine Newman, executive vice president of the University of California - say that the U.S. is way behind not just because it has a worse health care system: The nation already has far worse housing, education, unemployment benefits and other social supports for middle- and low-income people than many other developed countries do. So what might happen to death rates under the Trump regime?
Think you could never confess to a murder you didn't commit? Think again
2026/01/17
America's prisons house a "staggering number" of convicts who didn't commit the crime but said under duress that they did - so says our guest, lawyer Alan Hirsch, who testifies in trials across the country as one of the leading expert witnesses on false confessions. He took the stand not long ago in the chilling case of teenager Brooke Skylar Richardson, who was pressured by police to say that she'd murdered her baby, who was actually stillborn, and then burned the body; the jury acquitted her after forensic studies showed that the baby had never been burned at all. Alan says one problem is that police learn to lie about evidence and use clever interrogation methods that break down suspects' defenses, whether they're actually guilty or not. Some states are requiring police to film their whole interrogations - a step forward but not a panacea.
Trump lies about his accomplishments - and these famous Polar explorers did, too / From the archive
2026/01/03
When you learned ​in school about the fabled drama of Robert E. Peary and Frederick Cook​ - how they raced each other to be the first explorer to reach the North Pole - did your teachers explain that this was an early example where public figures lied to gain glory? oth The New York Times and New York Herald enabled them, by spreading the explorers' fake news - although critics still debate whether the publishers knew the stories were fake or didn't bother to corroborate the explorers' stories. Journalist Darrell Hartman tells us life and death tales from his fascinating book, Battle of Ink and Ice, that shed light on the perils of vanity and competition for fame and profit.
Listen to what this amazing teacher and his students pulled off!
2025/12/13
An English teacher at Middletown High School in New York State gave students video cameras back in the 1990s, and told them to tell compelling stories. Result: They uncovered illegal dumping of toxic wastes tied to the mob, and then made films about it - which shook the community and triggered government investigations. A documentary about their real-life drama, Teenage Wasteland, is making the rounds of film festivals and generating rave reviews. The teacher who guided the project, Fred Isseks, joins us with two of his former student investigators, Rachel Raimist and Jeff Dutemple. And they say the most important outcome was bigger than exposing illegal dumping: They learned how to ask tough questions, challenge government officials, and sort facts from lies.

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drewphysics 2022/05/08
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Entertaining, very approachable podcasts full of information by two top notch reporters with a huge amount of experience and capability. These subje...
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