After decades of experience on Wall Street, in finance and building teams of all sizes in multiple industries, Matthew Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca have a world-class understanding of what it takes to scale (and fund) a successful business. They are here to share a No-BS approach to what is involved in growing an empire.
A note before you go any further: This show is only for those who want to grow.
Every episode of this podcast is going to lay out actionable advice for business owners and entrepreneurs who want to grow their business. We have fun here - but the fact remains that everything you want is on the other side of something difficult. This show will help you get to that other side.
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Your Sales Team Might Be Costing You Millions. Here's Why.
2026/10/28
Your Sales Team Might Be the Reason You're Not Growing.
What if your business doesn't need more leads, better sales scripts, or another expensive sales training program? What if you've simply got the wrong people in the right seats?
This week on The Liquid Lunch Project, Matt Meehan sits down with Josh Long, author of Bottleneck Breakthrough and creator of Sales Team MRI, to talk about why sales teams underperform, what separates average reps from top closers, and why scaling from $1 million to $10 million takes a lot more than selling harder.
Josh breaks down how personality, motivation, and sales assessments can help owners make better hiring decisions, spot expensive weak links, and build teams that don't need the boss standing over everyone's shoulder.
And if you think hitting $5 million in revenue means five times the money, Josh has some unfortunate news about the five times the headaches.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why sales training alone rarely fixes a struggling team
How to spot the difference between a bad hire and a bad sales process
Why top salespeople can be brilliant closers and enormous headaches
What changes as your business grows from $1M to $3M to $10M
The danger of handing off too much responsibility too soon
Why keeping a mediocre salesperson could be costing you millions
How one company transformed its sales team and more than doubled its sales output
Why SPIN Selling still deserves a spot on your bookshelf
👤 About our Guest:
Josh Long is the author of Bottleneck Breakthrough and creator of Sales Team MRI. With experience working alongside sales and marketing leaders like Chet Holmes and Dan Kennedy, he helps established businesses identify sales problems, hire stronger performers, and build teams that can grow without relying on the owner.
Want to Find Out What's Holding Your Sales Team Back?
Josh is offering Liquid Lunch listeners a complimentary Sales Team MRI and access to his Revenue Leak Test.
Visit https://bottleneckbreakthrough.com/podcast to learn more.
And if this episode sounds a little too familiar, share it with another business owner who's still doing half the sales team's job.
🔗 Links + Stuff
Website: https://bottleneckbreakthrough.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joshua.long
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshualong/
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Reddit Doesn't Have to Make Your Loan Payments.
2026/10/21
Nearly a million in sales. Cash flow on life support. Should you really be borrowing more?
Sales look great. Cash is tight. And somehow, the plan is to borrow more money.
Welcome to Reddit on the Rocks, where Matthew R. Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca take real small business questions off Reddit and put the numbers (and the logic) under a microscope. Anonymous advice is free. Cleaning up after it? That gets expensive.
This week, business owners want to expand, escape debt, cut prices, and hand someone else the keys. Matt and Luigi have a few follow-up questions.
🍸 On the menu:
More debt, more problems? A pet care owner needs $150K while a merchant cash advance takes a bite out of sales.
Working for yourself—or your lenders? Sorting through SBA loans, EIDL debt, and a pile of credit card bills.
The discount trap. That 20% price cut could eat half your margin. Enjoy being twice as busy.
You'd like to leave. Can you? What happens when the owner wants out of the daily work.
Your ads flopped. Now you want a loan? The missing step between spending money and winning customers.
Listen before you borrow. And remember: the guy handing out business advice on Reddit won't be chipping in on your loan payment.
🔗 Links + Stuff
Original Reddit Thread: How would you close this $150K funding gap?: https://www.reddit.com/r/smallbusiness/comments/1x0il1t/opinions_as_to_how_youd_close_this_funding_gap/
Original Reddit Thread: I borrowed $275K and still haven't made a dent in it: https://www.reddit.com/r/smallbusiness/comments/1wc9hcd/i_took_out_a_275k_eidl_loan_in_20202021_and_i/
Original Reddit Thread: Business owners, how is everyone handling it? https://www.reddit.com/r/smallbusiness/comments/1wyoreb/business_owners/
Original Reddit Thread: A profitable owner wants to step away from daily operations: https://www.reddit.com/r/smallbusiness/comments/1wt79rd/realistic_100k_a_year_small_business/
Original Reddit Thread: When should you take out a business loan? https://www.reddit.com/r/smallbusiness/comments/1way5ry/when_to_take_out_a_loan/
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• Matt Meehan: https://www.instagram.com/matthew.r.meehan
• Luigi Rosabianca: https://www.instagram.com/luigi_rosabianca
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Build It. Scale It. Sell It. Then Get Punched in the Face with Brian McNally
2026/10/14
What does it take to build a business worth buying, survive losing half your revenue, and then willingly get punched in the face?
Brian McNally has some answers.
Brian bootstrapped a healthcare staffing company, built it with an exit strategy in mind, and eventually sold it. Along the way, COVID wiped out 50% of the business in just six weeks. And because apparently entrepreneurship wasn't challenging enough, he also decided to step into an MMA cage in his 40s.
He joins Matt and Luigi to talk about building a company that can thrive without its founder, why culture is more than motivational posters, and what happens when you stop making excuses and start getting honest about what you want out of life.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Build to sell: Why your exit strategy should start long before you find a buyer.
Culture that actually pays off: How accountability, honesty, and the right people drive growth.
The COVID gut punch: Losing half the business in six weeks and finding a way forward.
Get out of your own way: Why founders need to stop being the center of everything.
From boardroom to MMA cage: What getting punched in the face teaches you about discipline.
The life beyond the exit: Why money means very little if your health and relationships are falling apart.
👤 About our Guest:
Brian is an entrepreneur, business coach, former co-founder of Milio, MMA fighter, and author of the upcoming book FCK AVG, a guide to ditching average and taking control of your life.
Want to build something worth selling without sacrificing everything else along the way?
Give this one a listen. And check out Brian's book and work at https://brianmcnally.com.
🔗 Links + Stuff
Website & Book: https://brianmcnally.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brian.mcnally.904
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebrianmcnally/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thebrianmcnally
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmcnally/
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The Bora Bora Test: Can Your Business Survive 60 Days Without You?
2026/10/07
If your business falls apart when you disappear for 60 days, did you build a company? Or just a very expensive job?
Allison Maslan, founder and CEO of Pinnacle Global Network and author of Scale or Fail, joins Matt and Lou to break down what it really takes to scale a business without burning out the owner.
Her Scale It Method focuses on five big pieces: strategic vision, cash flow, team, leadership, and execution. But the bigger lesson is simple: growth gets a lot harder when the founder is still the answer to every question.
If your company is held together with duct tape, heroic effort, and one employee named Larry who somehow knows everything, this one is for you.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why being busy is not the same as growing
The five pillars behind Allison's Scale It Method
How founders become the bottleneck without realizing it
Why cash flow problems may actually be operations problems
The "Bora Bora test" for seeing how dependent the business is on you
How to build leaders around your strongest skill
Why your team should know what success looks like without asking you
How better systems can make a company more valuable at exit
What Allison looks for in high-level mentors and advisors
Why strong company culture matters more as the business grows
Allison also shares how one law-firm owner went from roughly $2.5 million in revenue and 17-hour workdays to more than $100 million in revenue after changing the way the company was built and led.
If that's not reason enough to listen…we don't know what else to tell you.
👤 About our Guest:
Allison Maslan is the founder and CEO of Pinnacle Global Network and the author of Scale or Fail. She has built 10 companies and now helps business owners build stronger teams, systems, leadership, and operations so the company can grow without depending on them for every move.
🎧 Try this after the episode:
Take the Bora Bora test. Imagine you disappear for 60 days with no Slack, email, Zoom, or phone calls. Write down the first three things that would break.
That list? Start there.
🔗 Links + Stuff
Pinnacle Global Network: www.pinnacleglobalnetwork.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/allisonmaslan/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/allisonmaslan/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allisonmaslan/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@allisonmaslan
Substack: https://substack.com/@allisonmaslan
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Your Brain Wants Safety. Your Business Needs Risk.
2026/09/30
Your biggest business problem might not be your plan. It might be the part of your brain trying to keep you safe.
You know what needs to get done. Make the call. Check the numbers. Delegate the work. Take the risk.
So why don't you do it?
Stephen Baker joins Matt and Luigi to talk about the subconscious habits that can quietly run the show for entrepreneurs. Stephen is a former lawyer, professional poker player, and now a performance coach who uses hypnotherapy to help clients change the mental patterns that can hold them back.
This one gets into fear, procrastination, pressure, money, losing, anger, and why being good at business sometimes means getting better at being uncomfortable.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why smart business owners still procrastinate
How fear can make you the bottleneck in your own company
Why your brain would rather feel safe than take the bigger shot
How Stephen uses hypnotherapy in performance coaching
What professional poker taught him about losing
Why pressure can actually help you perform
How childhood and past money stress can shape business decisions
Why trying to kill your emotions may be the wrong move
How anger and anxiety can be used as fuel
Why the best performers learn how to "suffer well"
The mental skill that separates good from great
👤 About our Guest:
Stephen Baker is a performance coach and founder of Stephen Baker Performance Coaching / YouGrow. Before coaching, he worked in law and professional poker—two careers that taught him a lot about risk, pressure, decision-making, and keeping your head when things don't go your way.
🎧 Why Listen:
If you've ever known exactly what you should do in your business…and still didn't do it, this episode is for you.
🔗 Links + Stuff
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenbakerperformancecoach/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stephenbakerperformancecoach/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StephenBaker2107
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💼 Need funding or working capital? If today's conversation raised questions about capital, cash flow, or financing options, you can schedule a conversation with our sponsor, Credit Banc.
Credit Banc helps business owners make sense of their options and move forward with a clear plan, without pressure or guesswork.
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• Matt Meehan: https://www.instagram.com/matthew.r.meehan
• Luigi Rosabianca: https://www.instagram.com/luigi_rosabianca
• The Liquid Lunch Project: https://www.instagram.com/theliquidlunchproject/
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Why Healthcare Rewards the Wrong Things.
2026/09/23
What if healthcare made more money when you got better…not when you kept coming back?
That's the idea behind value-based care, and Jon Read thinks behavioral health is overdue for it.
Jon is the co-founder of Confidant Health, a technology-enabled behavioral health company that uses data, telehealth, and automation to help people get better care without burying providers in paperwork.
Luigi flies solo for this one and gets into a healthcare problem that affects just about everyone: the system often rewards more visits, more services, and more volume. But more care doesn't always mean better care.
Jon explains why healthcare is slowly shifting toward paying for results instead. They also dig into how AI and automation can take repetitive work off a provider's plate without replacing human judgment, why telehealth should be more than a video call, and what it takes to reach people who might otherwise struggle to get mental health care.
Plus, Jon talks about building and selling his first healthcare company, watching the next owners grow it far beyond where he took it, and the business lesson that changed how he thinks about scaling.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why more healthcare doesn't always mean better healthcare
How value-based care changes what providers get rewarded for
Why measuring patient progress matters in behavioral health
How automation cuts down the paperwork nobody went to medical school to do
Where AI can help without trying to play doctor
Why telehealth can be a lifeline for rural and underserved communities
How Confidant Health connects behavioral and medical care
What Jon learned after selling his first healthcare company
Why stretch goals changed the way he builds businesses
Why healthcare is a terrible place to "get rich quick"—and exactly why Jon keeps coming back to it
👤 About our Guest:
Jon Read is the co-founder of Confidant Health, a behavioral health company focused on measurement-based care, telehealth, and value-based healthcare. He previously founded Keet Health, which gave him a front-row seat to how data and better incentives can change patient care.
🎧 Why Listen:
If you've ever wondered why healthcare seems better at billing than fixing, this episode will make a lot of things click.
🔗 Links + Stuff
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonread
Learn more about Confidant Health: https://www.confidanthealth.com
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How to Make Money When the Market Goes Down
2026/09/16
What if retirement income didn't depend on the market going up?
Most people are told the same thing: buy stocks, hold them, hope they rise, and try not to panic when the market drops.
Robby Hogle has a different plan.
Robby, founder of Vitality Trading and a former Goldman Sachs Vice President, joins Matt and Luigi to break down his Double Dipping Dividend Strategy, a method built around dividend-paying stocks and covered calls designed to create regular cash flow without turning investing into a full-time job.
This isn't about chasing meme stocks or staring at six monitors all day. It's about using boring companies, clear rules, and options in a way that can help investors generate income in up, flat, and even down markets.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why "boring" dividend stocks can be a good thing
How covered calls can create extra monthly cash flow
Why Robby likes playing the role of the "insurance company"
How options can help reduce some downside risk
Why cash flow may matter more than watching your account balance
How the wheel strategy can help you buy stocks at prices you actually like
Why Robby wants at least 10 positions across different industries
When paying a financial advisor makes sense (and when it may not)
How Robby handled an IBM position after the stock dropped roughly 30%
The two stocks Robby likes right now for long-term income investors
👤 About Robby Hogle
Robby Hogle is the founder of Vitality Trading and a former Vice President at Goldman Sachs. He teaches investors how to use dividend stocks and options to build cash flow while keeping risk and time spent managing a portfolio in check.
Want to see how Robby runs the strategy?
Visit vitality-trading.com/liquid for Robby's Liquid Lunch Project offer, including his Dividend Digest, access to a weekly member call, and an opportunity to speak with him one-on-one.
🔗 Links + Stuff
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robbyhogle/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbyhogle1/
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💼 Need funding or working capital? If today's conversation raised questions about capital, cash flow, or financing options, you can schedule a conversation with our sponsor, Credit Banc.
Credit Banc helps business owners make sense of their options and move forward with a clear plan, without pressure or guesswork.
👉 Book a free 15-minute call here: https://tinyurl.com/3dh9vy86
📲 Connect with the hosts Follow along for behind-the-scenes clips, commentary, and things that don't make it into the episode.
• Matt Meehan: https://www.instagram.com/matthew.r.meehan
• Luigi Rosabianca: https://www.instagram.com/luigi_rosabianca
• The Liquid Lunch Project: https://www.instagram.com/theliquidlunchproject/
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The $64K Red Light Bed: Smart Investment or Expensive Toy?
2026/09/09
Is red light therapy a wellness trend? Or a real business opportunity?
Cash-pay wellness is growing fast, and business owners are looking for services customers actually want without adding a pile of staff, training, or overhead.
In this episode of The Liquid Lunch Project, Matt and Luigi sit down with Dr. Carl Rothschild and Dock Walls to talk about the Trifecta Pro 450 Red Light Table and, more importantly, the business sitting behind the technology.
Dr. Carl explains the science they say powers red light therapy, including its effect on mitochondria, cellular energy, recovery, and fat loss. Dock tackles the operator side: who is buying these systems, how businesses are charging for treatments, what it takes to run one, and how owners can think about adding red light therapy as another revenue stream.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why cash-pay wellness keeps gaining ground
How red light therapy moved from niche treatment to business opportunity
The story behind the Trifecta Pro 450
What mitochondria have to do with red light therapy
Why athletes use red light for recovery and performance
What FDA clearance means for the product
Which types of businesses are adding red light therapy
How much training and space the equipment requires
How operators can price treatments
The financing and revenue math behind the business model
Why an existing customer base could make adoption easier
👤 About our Guests:
Dr. Carl Rothschild is a chiropractor, author, and longtime red light therapy practitioner who helped develop the Trifecta Pro 450 Red Light Table.
Dock Walls is the company's CFO and works with business owners evaluating red light therapy as a service and revenue stream.
🎧 Why Listen:
If you own a med spa, wellness center, chiropractic office, gym, recovery studio…or you're simply an entrepreneur watching where consumers are spending money…this conversation is worth paying attention to.
🔗 Links + Stuff
Learn more about Trifecta Light Therapy:
Trifecta Light — Official Links & Resources
https://linktr.ee/trifectalightofficial
Digital Brochure — Trifecta Pro 450
Discover the features and benefits of the Trifecta Pro 450 Red Light Table:
https://publuu.com/flip-book/51650/2091185
Buyer's Guide — What to Look for in a Red Light Bed
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17otPCBjSmxSDvN0CnyId1pBgwhbyD-yx/view?usp=sharing
Illuminated Healing by Dr. Carl Rothschild
https://www.amazon.com/Illuminated-Healing-Unraveling-Mysteries-Therapy/dp/B0C9GG2ZYV
Red Light Therapy Studies & Research
https://trifectalight.com/studies/
Videos & Testimonials
NBA Legend Chris Paul Uses Trifecta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsymGsHrvY
Travis Pastrana Interview
https://youtu.be/0w-pL41qRW4
Patient Compilation Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn0zoazWC0k
Practitioner Compilation Video
https://youtu.be/bRbaFjwQxRE
More Trifecta Video Testimonials
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkmPaRxEdLUO2VRItGRlQtDM_v5QQrBvW
Why Weaker Devices Fall Short
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=059qgtb_2II
Explore the Science Behind Red Light Therapy
https://youtu.be/AHuH-8GgSXU
NOTE: This episode is for informational and entertainment purposes. Medical and health statements made during the conversation reflect the guests' views, experiences, and cited testimonials. They should not be taken as medical advice. Consult an appropriate healthcare professional regarding medical treatment or health conditions.
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Leading at the Speed of Change: Why Great Leaders Know When to Slow Down
2026/09/02
Business is moving faster than ever. AI is accelerating decisions, markets are shifting in real time, and leaders are being asked to adapt constantly.
But moving faster isn't always the answer.
In this episode of Built to Scale, Matthew R. Meehan sits down with Aileda Bailey, founder of Ask Aileda, to talk about what it really takes to lead through rapid change without getting trapped in urgency, burnout, or reactive decision-making.
Aileda explains why leaders need to understand their own "human operating system," how neuroscience can help entrepreneurs perform better under pressure, and why AI should be treated as a resource and NOT a replacement for judgment, intuition, trust, or leadership.
Matt and Aileda also dig into one of the biggest challenges founders face as their companies grow: making the shift from owner to leader.
Because if every question, decision, and problem still has to come through you, you're not really scaling. You're becoming the bottleneck.
In this episode, you'll learn:
Why trying to keep up with constant change can actually make you a worse leader
How to step out of urgency and make decisions with more clarity
Why AI can accelerate the problems already hiding inside a business
The human skills technology can't replace
How neuroscience can help you reframe stress and pressure
When to trust data—and when experience and intuition matter
What "conscious leadership" actually means in practical terms
Why founders struggle to give up control as their companies grow
The difference between acting like an owner and leading like a CEO
Why scaling requires reinvesting in your people and organization
Simple habits that can help leaders think more clearly and perform better under pressure
Your Challenge Before your next big decision, don't react right away.
Take a pause. Step away from the screen. Take three deep breaths, go for a walk, or give yourself 24 hours if the decision allows it.
Then ask yourself: Am I making this decision from clarity, or from urgency?
And if your business is growing, take it one step further:
What am I still controlling that someone else on my team should own?
Pick one decision to slow down and one responsibility to let go of this week. That's your challenge.
Connect with Aileda Bailey Ask Aileda Website: https://askaileda.com
Instagram: https://instagram.com/askaileda
Facebook: https://facebook.com/askaileda
LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/askaileda
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@askaileda
Need capital before growth turns into another bottleneck?
If your business is growing but still feels stuck, the answer is not always "throw more money at it." The right capital strategy should support the right growth plan.
Matt and the Credit Banc team help business owners explore financing options for working capital, acquisitions, equipment, expansion, and growth opportunities before they are stuck scrambling at the last minute.
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Built to Scale is a podcast segment from The Liquid Lunch Project, hosted by Matt, built for entrepreneurs, founders, and business owners who want to grow smarter, tighten operations, improve profitability, and build companies that can scale without chaos running the show.
AI Won't Fix Your Business. It'll Expose It.
2026/08/26
What happens when you add AI to a business with bad systems?
You don't magically get a better business. You may just break things faster.
Jeff MacPherson, CEO of Cloud37, joins Matt Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca to talk about what AI can actually do for small businesses—and where founders keep getting it wrong.
Jeff has spent years building tech, including an early Instagram automation platform that sent more than a billion messages before Facebook shut it down. Today, he helps companies turn what their best people know into repeatable systems that can scale.
The big lesson? Stop chasing the newest AI tool. Fix the way your business works first.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why AI exposes bad processes instead of fixing them
The onboarding mistake that quietly slows down growth
Why standard questions make AI work better
How to pull knowledge out of your best employees' heads
Why human adoption is often harder than the tech
How one financial firm improved sales and service with the same system
Why AI may expose fake experts faster than real ones
The reason "white glove" service still matters
Why relationships may become more valuable as AI gets better
What losing an entire company to Facebook taught Jeff about platform risk
Why founders should build systems—not depend on one AI model
👤 About our Guest:
Jeff MacPherson is the CEO of Cloud37, where he helps businesses turn internal knowledge and proven processes into AI-powered systems that can scale. He previously built one of the earliest Instagram messaging automation platforms and has spent more than a decade building technology businesses.
🎧 Why Listen:
AI can make a good process faster. It can also make a bad process fail faster.
Before you automate everything, figure out what actually works, make it repeatable, and keep the human relationships your competitors can't copy.
Know a founder who keeps buying AI tools but still runs the company from their inbox? Send them this episode. Then follow The Liquid Lunch Project so you don't miss the next conversation.
🔗 Links + Stuff
Cloud37: https://www.cloud37.ai
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffmacai/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeff.macpherson/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeffmacai
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeffmacp/
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Before You Buy a Business, Check These Red Flags
2026/08/19
Would you buy a business that loses its clients the minute the owner walks out the door?
Muriel Touati reviewed more than 100 businesses while hunting for an acquisition. A lot of them looked good from across the room. Up close? Different story.
Founder dependency. Weak recurring revenue. Too much money tied to one client. No real digital marketing system. And, in one case, a $3.7 million deal with 40% monthly customer churn. Hard pass.
Muriel joins Matthew R. Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca to break down the biggest red flags in business acquisition, what lenders really care about, and how owners can build a company that is easier to grow, finance, and sell.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why founder dependency can kill a business sale
How customer concentration scares buyers and lenders
Why predictable revenue matters in business valuation
The difference between recurring revenue and starting from zero each month
How digital marketing can increase company value
Why off-market deals may beat crowded business listings
How LinkedIn and email can support deal sourcing
What buyers should check before signing an acquisition deal
How SBA loans and rent replacement may help finance a purchase
Why a "good deal" can still be a very expensive headache
👤 About our Guest:
Muriel Touati is the founder of Exit 3D Studio and author of The Valuation Gap: What Buyers See That Sellers Miss. She helps business owners reduce founder dependency, build better lead generation systems, and prepare their companies for growth or sale.
🎧 Why Listen:
Before you buy a business—or try to sell yours—listen to this episode. It may save you from buying a very polished dumpster fire.
Visit exit3dstudio.com to learn more about Muriel's work and get the first chapter of The Valuation Gap.
🔗 Links + Stuff
Get the first chapter of The Valuation Gap FREE: https://www.exit3dstudio.com/the-valuation-gap
Muriel on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/murieltouati
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Win Today: How Great Leaders Reset Under Pressure
2026/08/12
Positive thinking might be the reason you're still stuck.
Pressure doesn't vanish when you become a better leader. The stakes just get bigger.
Performance coach and sports psychology expert Joshua Lifrak joins Matt and Luigi to explain how leaders can stay focused, reset after a bad result, and build confidence that is backed by real work, not wishful thinking and a motivational coffee mug.
Joshua breaks down the same mental habits used by elite athletes, championship teams, and high-performing business leaders. The goal is not to feel great every second. It is to see the facts, control the next move, and stop one bad moment from wrecking the whole day.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why pressure is not the enemy
How emotions can help or hurt performance
Why neutral thinking can beat positive thinking
How "Mile Zero" helps you reset after a win or loss
Why leaders should "do simple better"
The difference between real confidence and pure delusion
How blame, excuses, and low standards create losing teams
Why great leaders catch people living the company's values
A simple morning reset that starts without your phone
How small daily wins turn into major results
👤 About our Guest:
Joshua Lifrak is a performance coach, sports psychology expert, and author of Win Today. Through Limitless Minds and Lift Up Consulting, he helps athletes, leaders, and teams perform under pressure and build stronger habits.
🔗 Links + Stuff
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-lifrak-59ab5442/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshualifrak/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jlifrak/
Book: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Win+Today+Joshua+Lifrak
Your move: Tomorrow morning, leave the phone alone, get outside, and choose the one behavior that will help you win the day. Then send this episode to the leader who needs a reset, not another pep talk.
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The Real Cost of Owning a Bar with Chris Schneider
2026/08/05
Think owning a bar is just pouring drinks and counting cash? Think again.
Bar owner and coach Chris Schneider breaks down what really makes a bar work…and why a packed room can still leave you broke on Monday.
Chris joins Matthew R. Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca to talk pricing, staff, food, location, profit, and the small costs that can quietly wipe out your margin. He also explains why gut instinct is not enough, why simple drinks often win, and why your parking lot may matter more than your cocktail list.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why bar owners need to follow the numbers
How bad staff culture kills retention
Why a flashy location can hurt your profit
Why beer and well drinks still drive sales
How food keeps customers spending longer
What bar owners miss about insurance costs
Why happy hour laws change by state
How one small personal detail can build customer loyalty
Why a busy bar can still lose money
What every small business can learn from hospitality
Ready to see what your favorite bar is really dealing with?
Listen now, then send this episode to the friend who keeps saying, "We should open a bar."
👤 Connect with Chris!
Chris Schneider is the founder of The Bar Business Coach and a former bar owner. He helps independent bars and restaurants improve pricing, systems, menus, staff performance, and profit.
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/barbusinesscoach/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-schneider-74732021/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsyvnkceZSVsRMTJdnB4SuQ
🔗 Links + Resources Mentioned
How to Make Top Shelf Profits in the Bar Business: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C5C6LBK5?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback
Menus That Sell: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GHRH2LKM?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback
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Mark Roberge's Formula for Smarter Sales and Safer Growth
2026/07/29
Most sales problems start when the seller won't stop talking.
Mark Roberge (HubSpot's founding CRO, Harvard Business School lecturer, and co-founder of Stage 2 Capital) joins Matt and Luigi to challenge the loudest myths in sales and startup growth. His take is simple: great selling is not about pressure, slick pitches, or talking someone into a bad deal.
It's about asking better questions, finding the real problem, and knowing when to walk away.
The conversation also tackles a mistake that kills promising companies: scaling before customers are getting real value. Mark breaks down why rising revenue can fool founders, how to test product-market fit, and what must be true before a business earns the right to grow faster.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why sales is about discovery, not persuasion
The questions that expose what a buyer really needs
How to reframe a bad decision without sounding like a jerk
Where ethical selling ends and buyer responsibility begins
Why cold calls still work better than people claim
The tradeoff between outreach volume and personalization
Why small dinners and face-to-face meetings are making a comeback
The danger of using revenue as your only scoreboard
Product-market fit, go-to-market fit, and building a durable moat
Why scaling too early can wreck a good company
The HubSpot negotiation move involving a handful of M&M's
Why Mark is donating the proceeds from The Science of Scaling to McLean Hospital
💡 Notable takeaway:
"Selling is about buying. It's about helping the buyer buy and solve their problems."
👤 About our guest:
Mark Roberge helped grow HubSpot from zero revenue to IPO as its founding Chief Revenue Officer. He now teaches at Harvard Business School, leads Stage 2 Capital, and created The Science of Scaling, an evidence-based framework for growing companies without outrunning customer value.
🎧 Why listen?
Because this episode will help you sell smarter, spot bad growth early, and avoid scaling your business before it's ready.
🔗 Links + Stuff Mentioned
Sales Acceleration Formula: https://www.amazon.com/Sales-Acceleration-Formula-Technology-Companies/dp/1119047072
Stage 2 Capital: https://www.stage2.capital/
Winning by Design Frameworks: https://winningbydesign.com
Force Management MEDIC Framework: https://forcemanagement.com
Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markroberge/
Follow on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ScienceofScaling
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Can Blockchain Actually Help World Peace?
2026/07/22
Can blockchain do more than make rich people argue on the internet?
In this episode of The Liquid Lunch Project, Matt and Luigi sit down with Erai Beckmann, founder of Peace Through Trade, to talk about a much bigger use case for blockchain, AI, and cryptocurrency: global trade that creates trust, financial access, and maybe even less fighting between humans. Wild concept, apparently.
Erai breaks down why trade has historically been one of the strongest tools for reducing conflict, how blockchain can open doors for people left out of traditional finance, and why Peace Through Trade is building a legal, sustainable Layer-1 Proof-of-Work blockchain with real-world use in mind.
The conversation covers regulation, energy use, stablecoins, government trust, environmental impact, and the giant gap between hype coins and technology built to last.
🍸 What you'll hear in this episode:
Why trade can reduce conflict better than speeches
How blockchain could expand global finance
Why crypto needs rules before it grows up
The problem with pump-and-dump coin culture
How Peace Through Trade uses less energy than Bitcoin
Why sustainability also makes business sense
What stablecoins can do for global commerce
Why governments need trust before they back blockchain
How small businesses could benefit from better financial tools
Why financial access matters for peace, trade, and growth
💡 Notable Takeaway:
"Our goal was to build something legally and also something that was good for the environment in the realm of blockchain and AI."
👤 About our Guest:
Erai Beckmann is the founder of Peace Through Trade, a blockchain and AI ecosystem focused on global trade, sustainability, and financial access. The project is building a Layer-1 Proof-of-Work blockchain, utility coin, wallet, stablecoins, and marketplace tools designed for real-world use.
🎧 Why Listen:
Listen to this episode if you want a clearer take on where blockchain may be headed after the hype…and why trade, trust, regulation, and access may matter more than the next coin everyone is screaming about.
🔗 Links + Stuff
Peace Through Trade: https://peaceretrade.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/peacethroughtrade/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peacethroughtrade
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61575979239479
X: https://x.com/PTT_Blockchain
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Robby H... 2026/08/27
High quality content + Entertaining
Matt and Lou provide great content in an entertaining way. I’ve learned a lot listening to the episodes!
★★★★★
S. Cleveland 2026/05/28
Sharp, Tactical, and Surprisingly Practical
One of the better business podcasts for operators, entrepreneurs, and growth-minded professionals. Matthew Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca do a strong job...
★★★★★
Austin the Patent Attorney 2025/08/07
Two great guys with even greater experience.
I can’t see enough about these guys. Not only are their topics informative, It’s a fun podcast to listen to.
★★★★★
Turtle on 2025/07/17
Great Guys With An Even Greater Podcast
Matt and Luigi have some of the most interesting and engaging conversations in the podcast space. Their curiosity and subtle sense of humor make every...
★★★★★
From Designing in 5D 2024/12/02
Great Podcast!
The Liquid Lunch Podcast by Matthew Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca is a must-listen for serious entrepreneurs. Packed with actionable advice and no fluff...
★★★★★
christianrayflores 2024/11/02
super practical
Super practical and to the point. All small biz owners should subcribe.
★★★★★
Retirement Money Secrets 2024/05/21
The Path To Financial Independence
The podcast with Matt and Luigi was really a treat, with the perspective of an existing business owner and the question: How do I replace my business ...
★★★★★
222Shorty 2024/05/02
Great podcast - not a moment wasted
Matt and Luigi were terrific hosts. They asked great questions about independent book publishing quickly to include as much information as possible in...
★★★★★
Scott Ritzheimer 2024/03/18
Want to build a better more profitable business?
Matt and Luigi knock it out of the park every week. They bring in some of the best guests, and I learn something new from every episode. Their banter ...
★★★★★
Fire builder 2023/11/26
Firewalking, Tony Robbins, Soberly
Matthew & Luigi are outstanding hosts.
They come to the mic well-prepared and are Masters in the podcasting space.
Funny, engaging, good guys!!
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