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105 episodes
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Date created
2021/06/24
Latest episode
2026/10/02
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50 min.
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A wealth building podcast for real estate investors who are on the path of converting their active income into passive income through asset accumulation and business ownership. The Income Flip Podcast is a narrative podcast about real estate entrepreneurs, visionaries, and the stories behind the legacies they are creating. Hosted by Rob Chevez, CEO of The CAZA Group and Founder of GRID—a global network of 20k+ members dedicated to connecting, training, and inspiring real estate entrepreneurs to think big, act bold, and embrace wealth. Rob breaks down the real estate entrepreneurial journey in every episode, from answering the call with fresh eyes and shaky beginnings to the tests and trials of a real estate investor’s path through growth, transformation, and lessons learned. He covers everything from investor habits, routines, mindset, books, life philosophies, to meeting mentors and morning rituals. So be ready to learn more than real estate tactics and get ready to learn the spirit of the entrepreneurial real estate investor.
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#105. Matt Ricciardella—From Cold Calls at 20 to a $700M Portfolio
2026/10/02
In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Matt Ricciardella, founder and CEO of Crystal View Capital, shares his journey from a twenty-year-old realtor cold calling and door knocking in California to building an institutional-quality investment platform with nearly $700 million in assets under management.
Matt breaks down how his first house flip hooked him on real estate, why he pivoted from residential to commercial to chase passive income, and how he built his entire investment philosophy around two overlooked asset classes, self-storage and manufactured housing communities, because of their fragmented, mom-and-pop ownership and strong free cash flow. He explains how he scaled from buying properties with seller financing to launching his first fund in 2014 with no track record, why manufactured housing has become his primary focus due to shrinking supply and surging demand, and how he leads a 200-person team by staying present and working in the trenches alongside them rather than managing from a distance.
#104. Mark Miller—From a $500K Tax Bill to Never Paying Taxes Again
2026/09/25
In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Mark Miller, CEO of Hilton Tax and Wealth Advisors and director of the Hilton family office, shares his path from selling wholesale goods door to door as a Boy Scout and running painting companies through college, to building an international financial newsletter, founding multiple advisory firms, and eventually partnering with Bradley Hilton to lead the Hilton family's financial arm. Mark breaks down the moment that changed everything, getting hit with a multimillion-dollar tax bill and hiring a $2,000-an-hour advisor who saved him half a million dollars in year one alone. That experience pushed him to master advanced tax mitigation himself, and within a few years he reached the zero tax bracket and never paid taxes again. He now helps business owners apply the same family-office-level strategies the Hiltons use to build and protect generational wealth.
#102. John McNellis—40 Years, Multiple Fortunes Lost, and One Shopping Center He Still Owns
2026/09/04
In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, John McNellis shares his journey from a journalism major with no clear direction, to a reluctant lawyer, to one of Northern California's most respected shopping center developers over a 40-plus year career.
John breaks down how he turned a $1,500 investment into $90,000 in early real estate profits before he'd even left the law firm, then raised his first million dollars door-to-door to build the Healdsburg shopping center he still owns today. He's candid about the deals that nearly destroyed him too, from a wildly overleveraged mall redevelopment that ended in foreclosure and a six-figure IRS bill, to a Walmart project derailed by a granite deposit no geological survey could have predicted. He also explains why he walked away from financial partners entirely, why staying hyper-local gave him a lasting competitive edge, and why persistence, not talent or luck, is the real prerequisite for surviving decades in development.
#102. John McNellis—40 Years, Multiple Fortunes Lost, and One Shopping Center He Still Owns
2026/09/03
In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, John McNellis shares his journey from a journalism major with no clear direction, to a reluctant lawyer, to one of Northern California's most respected shopping center developers over a 40-plus year career.
John breaks down how he turned a $1,500 investment into $90,000 in early real estate profits before he'd even left the law firm, then raised his first million dollars door-to-door to build the Healdsburg shopping center he still owns today. He's candid about the deals that nearly destroyed him too, from a wildly overleveraged mall redevelopment that ended in foreclosure and a six-figure IRS bill, to a Walmart project derailed by a granite deposit no geological survey could have predicted. He also explains why he walked away from financial partners entirely, why staying hyper-local gave him a lasting competitive edge, and why persistence, not talent or luck, is the real prerequisite for surviving decades in development.
#101. Erich Feierabend—The Investor Who Found “Real Money” in Cost Segregation
2026/08/27
In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Eric Feierabend shares how his family's deep roots in real estate, from an appraiser grandfather to a residential realtor mother, shaped a career spanning private banking, national property tax consulting, and commercial real estate development.
Eric breaks down how he went from advising Fortune 125 companies on property tax to launching his own real estate acquisition partnership, closing his first deal within ten days and later developing a Starbucks from a vacant lot. He explains how becoming a client of CSSI led him to join the company full time, and walks through exactly how cost segregation studies work, how investors can reclassify property components into faster depreciation schedules to unlock major tax savings, and how that saved money can be redeployed to buy the next asset and keep compounding. He also covers which asset classes benefit most, how look-back studies work on properties bought years ago, and why timing matters with 100% bonus depreciation currently in place.
#100. Nhan Lam—The Aerospace Engineer Who Learned to Weather Every Real Estate Storm
2026/08/15
In this episode of The Income Flip Podcast, Rob Chevez sits down with Nhan Lam, a former aerospace engineer who worked with NASA, DHS, and the DOD before leaving a high-paying government career to become a full-time real estate entrepreneur.
Nhan shares how he built his first deals through networking, replaced his W-2 income with real estate, and created systems to scale beyond active income. The conversation covers family, risk, reserves, deal flow, entrepreneurship, and the discipline required to weather the inevitable storms of business.
Rob and Nhan also discuss the realities of entrepreneurship: cutting the cord from a stable job, building reserves, managing risk, and learning to weather storms when things go wrong. Nhan’s story is a reminder that real estate freedom is not built through luck or theory — it is built through action, systems, liquidity, relationships, and the willingness to keep growing into the next level.
#99. Tyler Coon—The Uber Driver Who Built a $375M Short-Term Rental Empire
2026/07/27
In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Tyler Coon shares his journey from driving Uber with $2,000 to his name to building Savvy STR Agents, one of the fastest-scaling short-term rental real estate teams in the country.
Tyler breaks down how he niched all the way down into short-term rental investing, walking away from a general real estate team to focus exclusively on Airbnb buyers, and why that "subset of a subset" bet is what allowed him to scale past everyone who told him it was impossible. He highlights the power of repeat, high-trust client relationships in short-term rentals—where one investor bought eight properties in a single year, and one $800K house has since generated over $100K in commissions across multiple resales. He also contrasts the grind of individual production with the leadership transition required to scale a business, explaining why hiring, delegation, and a willingness to reinvest every dollar—even at a loss—are what separate a good agent from a category-defining company.
#98. Andy Bui—The Engineer Who Went All-In on Co-Living When Rates Hit 2%
2026/07/20
In this episode Rob Chevez sits down with Andy Bui, an engineer turned real estate investor who built a successful co-living portfolio in Northern Virginia. Andy shares how a desire to create passive income for his family led him to discover an overlooked housing niche, validate demand through years of research, and scale a room-by-room rental business in one of the country's most expensive markets. The conversation covers risk management, market research, co-living investing, and the mindset shifts that helped Andy go from employee to entrepreneur.
#97. Bob Bernotas—Building and Buying Franchises That Print $120K/Month and Scale Into Million-Dollar Exits
2026/07/06
In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Bob Bernotas shares his journey from being a college athlete with no clear direction to stumbling into franchising in the 1980s, where he scraped together the resources to buy his first West Coast Video franchise.
Bob breaks down how franchising gave him a structured roadmap compared to independent businesses, allowing him to scale with more predictability and less trial-and-error. He highlights the power of recurring-revenue, membership-based models—particularly in the modern men’s health space—where a single investment of around $350K scaled into six-figure monthly revenue with strong margins and a projected multi-million-dollar valuation. He also contrasts business ownership with linear income, explaining why well-structured franchise systems can create far greater leverage, scalability, and wealth-building potential than traditional income models.
#96. Jeff Shafritz—How to Buy a Franchise, Keep Your Job, and Build Optionality
2026/06/24
In this episode of The Income Flip Podcast, Rob sits down with Jeff Shafritz, a franchise consultant with 20+ years of experience helping people find the right franchise opportunities.
Jeff shares how he accidentally entered franchising after college, rose through franchise development at The Athlete’s Foot, and later transitioned into consulting after being downsized around 9/11. Rob and Jeff discuss how franchising can help people own their future, especially as AI and corporate disruption change the job market.
Jeff explains that successful franchise ownership is not about loving the product — it is about finding the right fit based on your skills, capital, time, goals, and lifestyle. They also connect franchising to the Income Flip framework: moving from being the technician to owning a system that can create freedom, optionality, and long-term income.
#95. Charlie Einsmann—The Investor Who Turned a $600K Capital Call Into a Comeback Story
2026/05/19
On this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Rob Chevez sits down with real estate investor and entrepreneur Charlie Einsmann to unpack the journey behind building a massive real estate business from the ground up. From engineering school and pre-foreclosures to surviving the 2008 crash and scaling through REOs, Charlie shares the scars, lessons, and strategies that shaped his success. They also dive into impact, legacy, and Charlie’s new nonprofit initiative, Clear Sky Sports Angels, helping disadvantaged kids access travel sports through a self-sustaining foundation model.
#94. Stella Han—The 22-Year-Old Investor Who Lost $55K, Then Built Fractional
2026/05/11
Stella Han shares her journey from growing up in the Bay Area with software engineer parents who flipped houses, to becoming a real estate entrepreneur and founder of Fractional. After starting with out-of-state single-family investments in Atlanta, she attempted to raise $1M at age 22 for a 22-duplex portfolio but lost $55K due to securities and fundraising challenges. That failure inspired her to create Fractional, a platform helping investors form investment clubs as an alternative to traditional syndications. Backed by Y Combinator, Stella discusses failing forward, building in public, and embracing the identity shift required to become a startup founder.
#93. Earl Yaokasin — The CFA Who Outperformed Wall Street Explains Real Investing
2026/04/28
In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Earl Yaokasin shares his journey from hustling as a kid in the Philippines to becoming a high-performing investor who eventually outperformed institutional portfolio managers and launched his own firm. He breaks down how disciplined saving, long-term thinking, and calculated risk-taking allowed him to build a strong financial foundation before betting on himself. Earl explains key investing principles that apply to both stocks and real estate, including the importance of “turning over rocks” to find the best opportunities, evaluating both risk and reward, and maintaining a margin of safety. He also emphasizes the power of patience, showing how longer time horizons significantly increase the odds of success. Through practical insights and real-world examples, Earl highlights how consistent habits, smart decision-making, and a clear strategy can help investors build lasting wealth and confidently make the income flip.
#92. Grant Wise — From Broke at 23 to Scaling Millions in Real Estate Marketing
2026/04/21
Grant Wise shares his entrepreneurial journey starting from a young age, driven by a desire to avoid the traditional 9–5 lifestyle. After early success in home services like gutters and roofing, he made poor financial decisions that led to bankruptcy at 23. From there, he rebuilt by leveraging social media marketing, selling courses, and scaling a consulting business into millions in revenue. He later launched a SaaS company for real estate professionals, faced leadership and scaling challenges, and ultimately pivoted again to focus on partnerships and new revenue streams. His story highlights resilience, experimentation, and the importance of finding scalable, aligned opportunities within real estate and business.
#91. Laura Rehbein—Why Most Investors Fail Without a Financial Plan
2026/04/13
In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Laura Rehbein shares her 30-year journey in finance and breaks down why having a clear financial plan is critical for real estate investors and entrepreneurs. She explains how many people accumulate wealth through deals, businesses, and investments but lack a structured strategy to tie it all together. Laura emphasizes the difference between the accumulation phase—focused on growth and risk—and the transition into preservation and income, where priorities must shift to stability, tax efficiency, and sustainable cash flow. She highlights common mistakes, such as continuing to chase high-risk returns in retirement and failing to define a clear “number” for financial security. Through practical insights and real-world examples, Laura reinforces the importance of being intentional with money, creating a long-term plan, and ensuring that wealth not only grows but also supports a secure and stress-free future.
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John Galt $$$ 2026/02/25
Excellent podcast
Rob is a great interviewer and brings out the best in his guests. Highly recommended podcast.
YCV_20 2023/03/23
Rob is a great host !
Very actionable content on the podcast!
Bvfjhydd 2021/10/26
So much value!
Rob and his guests share a ton of value and insight to the real estate investing industry. Super inspiring to a newbie like myself! I look forward to ...
Nd434034 2021/10/26
Rob is a great host! Tons of energy and great guests!
I like the style of Rob’s podcasts. He lets the guests talk through their successes and losses, also giving amazing nuggets along the way. “The secret...
JessieAnn01 2021/10/25
Incredible insights into REI
I look forward to new episodes each week! Rob has a relaxed and fun style that puts guests at ease and helps them feel safe sharing their journeys (th...
Afshin456 2021/10/25
Definitely worth a listen
Super valuable content. This podcast is awesome.
MegelG 2021/09/16
Super Insightful Wealth Podcast
Really enjoying all the content on this fantastic podcast. Keep it up!!
Jstroup303 2021/09/14
Great podcast !
Rob + guests energy is contagious! Learning so much about investing from this podcast.. great content! A must listen !
Kayla M James 2021/09/14
Valuable information
Great for newbies like myself wanting to learn and dig deeper into becoming financially free!
Andrew C. 1925 2021/09/09
Great CRE content
Excellent content for breaking into commercial real estate! Thank you!
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