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Rating
★★★★★
4.9
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52 reviews
This podcast has
72 episodes
Language
English
Publisher
Jim and Barry
Explicit
No
Date created
2021/07/06
Latest episode
2026/10/08
Average duration
108 min.
Release period
36 days

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Small Subjects is a podcast devoted to discussing big topics in the worlds of scale modeling, diorama-building, and sculpting and painting miniature figures, as well as presenting interviews with some of the top artists in the field, including every era, and ranging from historical to fantasy subjects. Co-hosts Barry Biediger, who is based in Salt Lake City, and Jim DeRogatis, who lives in Chicago, are the editors of the Web site boxdioramas.com. Both have decades of experience as modelers, though they maintain that they are always curious and always learning. They are dedicated members of the Military Miniature Society of Illinois, where they considered the great Sheperd Paine a friend and mentor. Barry is also a member of his local chapter of the Armor Modeling and Preservation Society, while DeRogatis has written, co-written, or edited ten books about popular music and two about miniatures and modeling (Sheperd Paine: The Life and Work of a Master Modeler and Military Historian and Shep Paine’s Armor Modelers Guide). You can contact the hosts at [email protected]. Thanks for listening!

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Episode 72: Various and Sundry, Including, Have we changed our minds about any of our tools we love and hate?
2026/10/08
Also: Inspired by this episode of Her Shrink Ray Eye about the joys of the spare parts box, some ruminations on our own.Thoughts about the big changes at Dragon Models and the end of Andrea Miniatures, and a question: Is this day coming when styrene models and metal figures will be extinct? (For that matter, pro-manufactured resin: Just buy the file and print it yourself?)Thoughts on two more Her Shrink Ray Eye episodes: Artistic Paralysis At the Bench: I Still Couldn't Choose and You Don't Need the Next Best Project, in particular how those relate to us.Ask Barry: Questions about clear-coating before and after decaling and weathering, the Vortex paint mixers vs. shaking paint stirrers.Plus: Thanks to listeners Jim Patrick and Jon Working!
Episode 71: Joe Berton on What We Can Learn from a Well-Curated Collection
2026/09/03
Your hosts’ pal and one of one of their all-time favorite Small Subjects guests Joe Berton had a busy summer checking in on some notable collections of miniatures, and these visits got him thinking about what all of us “makers” can learn from a lovingly displayed array of our fellow artists’ work.
Episode 70: Jake McKee Part 2
2026/07/02
Your hosts last talked with wonderfully imaginative modeler and Austin, TX-based tech consultant Jake McKee about the possibilities (and, yeah, some of the downsides) of Artificial Intelligence in the hobby back on Episode 55 in February 2025.  In hyper-speed tech-time, that might as well have been 250 years ago, recorded on parchment with quill and ink like the Declaration of Independence. When he saw Barry at the Rocky Mountain Hobby Expo in May—and claimed the More Than Meets the Eye award sponsored by the Her Shrink Ray Eye podcast, as discussed on our last episode and featured in the last installment of this blog—Jake suggested to Barry that he had a whole lot new to say about AI and modeling based on his recent digital discoveries. And since he’s such an engaging and forward-thinking guest, you didn’t have to twist our arms to have him back for a return visit!
Episode 69: Chatting with Pete Culos and wrapping up RME 2026
2026/06/04
In this episode, your hosts talk with New Jersey modeler Pete Culos, an active member of the MFCA and APG (the Artists Preservation Group), one of the most creative box-diorama builders today, and an all-around fine fellow. We also talk about another incredible Rocky Mountain Expo in the Salt Lake City area, and the special awards sponsored by this podcast and Joan’s podcast “Her Shrink Ray Eye.”
Episode 68: MFCA 2026, With Special Guest Joan Biediger
2026/05/07
In this special “crossover” episode, Jim and Barry are joined by his beloved Joan, host of the fantastic podcast “Her Shrink Ray Eye,” to share their thoughts about last month’s annual MFCA Show in Trevose, PA, and, with some agitation by Jim, the dwindling or scarce participation in the “original” category (which many other open-system miniatures shows call “open”).
Episode 67: Scenery and Groundwork
2026/04/02
In this episode, your hosts hit the dirt running, so to speak, tackling the importance of the scenery in a diorama or vignette, starting with the question of whether we begin by building the setting (an approach Jim has taken of late) or if that comes last (Barry’s tendency).
Episode 66: Storytime with Mike Pierce
2026/02/19
Central Virginia-based modeler (and retired entomologist!) Mike Pierce has been an inspiration to your hosts since we first met him at one of the MMSI’s post-show critique sessions. He’s a modeler who’s always trying new things, and he tells great stories—both in his work, and in conversation. In this episode, we have a fine visit and hear more than a few of his tales.
Episode 65: Talking with Chris Meddings about the Upturner Prize and "Ask Barry"
2026/01/15
Barry and Jim chat once again with U.K. modeler Chris Meddings about a new international online “juried exhibition” he’s launched called the Upturner Prize, which, as he puts it atop the web site, is intended for “celebrating  modellers who push the limits of miniatures, models, and what they can  say, with an annual prize for artistic creation in miniature.” Your hosts round out this episode with a new segment Jim has now formally named: “Ask Barry.”
Episode 64: Raphael Shelton, doing the hobby "just for fun," and what we're playing with on our work benches now
2025/12/18
Jim talks with Norris, Tennessee-based modeler Raphael Shelton, who Barry thought had an interesting perspective on “doing the hobby just for fun,” something those of us who are obsessed about this thing of ours (and who talk about it on a podcast) can sometimes forget. Jim and Barry also discuss what they’re working on (or playing with, if you prefer) at the moment.
Episode 63: Dave Browne
2025/11/20
Toronto-area modeler Dave Browne has been a big inspiration to your hosts for quite some time, and not only because he shares their passion for box dioramas and is a master of the form. Dave is also a very talented armor modeler, and for 16 years, until it closed in January 2019, he ran Hornet Hobbies, the best kind of hobby shop. which, as he says, was about “building friendships, an active modelling community, and a few models.”
Episode 62: Robert Blokker
2025/10/30
Your hosts talk with Robert Blokker, a loyal listener who lives in Alkmaar, a city located in the North Holland province of the Netherlands, known for its traditional cheese market. In addition to being a wonderfully gregarious fellow—Barry really enjoyed spending some time with him during World Model Expo in Versailles last summer—Robert, who works as a graphic artist, is a wonderfully imaginative modeler with a wide variety of interests: World War I to fantasy, busts to flats, 1/72nd figures to 1/9 busts, and a special love for dioramas.
Episode 61: Barry & Jim on their latest box dioramas and trying something new with every project
2025/08/21
After epic conversations about big topics with multiple guests on the last two episodes—Perspectives on digital sculpting with Alan Ball and Nello Rivieccio in Episode 59, and a recap of World Model Expo in Versailles with Joan Biediger, Joe Berton, and Pat Vess in Episode 60—your hosts talk amongst themselves in this one, with Barry giving an unusual (for him) but very welcome (by Jim) step-by-step on the creation of his latest box diorama “XOR,” his eleventh (see his gallery here). Watch where you step; there are a few profanities uttered this time.
Episode 60: World Expo 2025 in Versailles
2025/07/24
Incredible art, great camaraderie, a beautiful and historic locale—and some sketchy organization, long lines with overflow crowds, and none of the artist’s names on any of those incredible pieces! In this episode, Jim (who could not attend) and Barry (who could and did) discuss the good and the bad about the twelfth World Model Expo, which took place from July 4 to 6 in Versailles, batting it all around with special guests Joe Berton, Pat Vess, Joan Biediger, and U.K. correspondent Chris Meddings of the Model Philosopher podcast.
Episode 59: Perspectives on Digital Sculpting vs. Toothpick & Putty
2025/06/12
With our last episode recapping MFCA 2025, your hosts—with help from Lou Masses and Dennis Levy—kicked up a bit of a hornet’s nest by addressing a major recurring topic of discussion at the show and in our small section of the miniatures world in general: Should digital sculpting and 3D printing be judged differently than the “handmade/toothpick and putty” sculpts that have predominated in this odd art form of ours for the last five and a half decades? Okay, it was mainly Jim doing the kicking. But since he was in part recounting a long and thoughtful conversation in Pennsylvania with master-sculptor Alan Ball, first featured with his master-painter wife Marion on Episode 20 of our podcast, we invited Alan to come back to have the discussion in real time—“for the record,” so to speak, and sans paraphrasing. As always, he graciously and eloquently shared his thoughts and insights as one of the deepest thinkers about this passion we share. Now, when anyone talks about digital sculpting in the historical as opposed to the fantasy category of miniature figures today, the name Nello Rivieccio inevitably comes up. Based near Naples, he is as much of a master on Zbrush as he was for many years with a toothpick (or similar tool) and two-part epoxy putty. To be clear, we do not intend these dual chats as a Pro/Con, Point/Counterpoint pairing: Alan and Nello have as many areas of agreement with each other (and with your hosts) as they do differences. But since the conversation about the advent of digital sculpting is certain to be a major topic of conversation again at World Model Expo, we wanted to drop this epic episode with both of them at the same time, so folks can have their perspectives (and our own) in mind as they view the work on display in Versailles from July 4 to 6.
Episode 58: Talking about MFCA 2025 with Dennis Levy and Lou Masses
2025/05/22
The Miniature Figure Collectors of America’s 82nd show took place on May 9 and 10 in Trevose, PA, just outside Philadelphia. On Saturday night, Lou Masses and Dennis Levy—both in a rather, um, well-lubricated mood—told Barry they’d love to bum-rush our podcast. They didn’t have to twist our arms—your hosts are always game for a good chat with friends who are equally devoted to this little hobby/art form of ours—and this episode is devoted to that talk. Once again, this episode is marked as explicit for some profanity (It would have simply ruined the flow if we had taken it out!) For photos of what we discuss in each episode, visit the Small Subjects blog on boxdioramas.com: http://www.boxdioramas.com/smallsubjects

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4.9 out of 5
52 reviews
★★★★★
Zocane 2026/03/31
Extremely Informative
I am directly in the middle of « the depressing part » of beginner’s figure painting. I’ve been trying to learn the techniques and my figures look awf...
★★★★★
Lee Fogel 2022/05/13
Great chit-chat and good laughs
A cozy and comfy ‘cast with good guests and both hosts are on-point with intelligent commentary and smart questions for guests. Save this one to your ...
★★★★★
combat_artist 2022/03/07
Terrific subject - very well thought out
A real joy to listen too, excellent topics, EXTREMELY useful and relevant. Thanks for doing this.
★★★★★
Emdee406 2021/10/17
Excellent podcast.
Really helpful to learn more about an aspect of modeling that is not my forte. Looking forward to the next episode.
★★★★★
lwopw 2021/10/08
completely enjoyable content
i trialed this podcast with the Rosengrant episode and immediately subscribed afterwards. Great job. look forward to more episodes
★★★★★
Garyjd1166 2021/07/27
A much needed podcast about miniatures and modeling
Podcasts usually take a number of episodes to evolve to where they are of professional quality. Barry and Jim have managed to deliver a polished produ...
★★★★★
Loud Shirt Don 2021/07/19
Loving the Figure Talk!
Barry and Jim, I have just binge-listened (if that’s a thing) to the first two Small Subjects pods, and you may count me as a fan! I think you have an...
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