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2026/06/15
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Article 19 is a podcast rooted in the firm belief that access to information is a human right. Here we offer conversations and interviews for increasing awareness, empathy, and expertise around digital inclusivity. A little nerdy, and a little techy, we hope listeners end up more informed too. We will also address why the oxford comma is awesome, and always more accessible.
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Deadline Deferred: The Tension Between Accountability and Doing It Right in an Age of Uncertainty
2026/06/15
On this episode of Article 19, Past meets Present as Kristen and Raquella bring on former host, Amanda Roper, to unpack the extension of the Title 2 deadlines and what that means for institutions, individuals, and, most importantly, assistive technology users.
If you'd like to submit a public comment on the extension and the ruling, you may do so before June 22nd, 2026. Go to the following link, and click on "submit comment."
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/04/20/2026-07663/extension-of-compliance-[…]imination-on-the-basis-of-disability-accessibility-of-web
From Caterpillar to Butterfly: Raquella's Journey
2026/04/10
Article 19 is back! After a hibernation, we're ready to bloom again. Listen to Katie and Kristen interview longtime listener, first time caller, Raquella Freeman, as she shares her disability journey with us. While ableism and sexism tried to keep her down, Raquella leaned hard on the voices that lifted her up and is now an advocate for those who follow.
At the end of the episode, Katie gives Raquella a unique gift, and Raquella undergoes a surprise metamorphosis.
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Learn more about web accessibility at Tammaninc.com and document accessibility, and accessibility training and consulting at ChaxTC.com.
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Article 19 Intro Recording: Expression is one of the most powerful tools we have. A voice, a
pen, a keyboard.
Eleanor Roosevelt Recording: “The real change which must give to people throughout the world their human rights must come about in the hearts of people. We must want our fellow human beings to have rights and freedoms which give them dignity.”
Article 19 Recording: Article 19 is the voice in the room. (tech Music bed)
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Walt Zielinski: So for me, the moment that I realized digital accessibility was something I wanted to learn more about was when it dawned on me that the same sort of fight for gay rights and being visibly queer was sort of the same exact fight being fought for people with disabilities. Accessibility is all about championing people whose voices are inherently, by society, stifled or shut down because they exist outside of the typical space. And when I realized that it was all part of the same fight, that my fight for religious freedom, for queer liberation, was the same as the fight for disability rights, it became very obvious that it was something that I had to pursue in some way.
00:01:23
Rose Bliesner: I was drawn into digital accessibility when I first met people who worked in this space. When I learned that digital accessibility was something that people had careers in and
something that people dedicated their lives to, I was intrigued. I met several accessibility
professionals and learned that they are the most empathetic, most passionate people, and that they really, really love what they do. And so their enthusiasm for their craft really motivated me to educate myself on how to make the world more accessible. And I have loved every minute of it.
00:01:55
Rob Underwood: When I got hired by Chax to remediate InDesign documents for assistive
technologies it was the very first time I realized that digital accessibility was something that I
wanted to learn more about. I've been teaching InDesign for 20 years, but I never knew how to make an accessible document. When I was hired, I was taught the process of document
remediation in small, incremental steps at first. I learned about the importance of headings and document structure. Once we got into color contrast, tables, and the pack checker, I understood the importance of the job we were performing, and how accessibility wasn't a nice-to-have, it was a must. The real aha moment for me was the first time DAX showed us what the documents we created sounded like with a screen reader. For the first time, I could finally grasp how people interact with assistive technology. It was then that I realized that my skillset could provide value to the team and that I wanted to learn everything I could about document remediation. Being part of a team that is at the forefront of accessibility makes me feel good about the work I'm doing. For the first time in my life, I feel like I'm working at a job that gives me purpose.
00:03:07
Taylor Kellar: When I first started working for Chax, I had a very vague understanding as to what digital accessibility meant. I thought that because technology was ever evolving, that
accessibility was something that was already being automatically considered. It wasn't until I
realized that programs that I use as an able-bodied individual, like Microsoft Word and Adobe Acrobat, have barriers that my coworkers who don't utilize technology in the same way have trouble accessing. What inspires me to learn more about digital accessibility is my co-workers. I feel very lucky that I get a first-hand experience learning tips and tricks on how to make my own content more accessible, and as a world that's primarily online, I think we owe it to ourselves to make content accessible for everyone.
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Katie Samson, (cohost): Hello, everyone, and welcome to Article 19. What's up, Kristen?
Kristen Witucki, (cohost): Oh, it's been a minute, Katie. We're, you know, we've taken a little
break, and it's really great to be back with you again and with our producer, Markus Goldman.
00:04:06
KS: Yes, we got the band back together.
KW: Yeah, we did.
KS: We're going to have some great music, some awesome topics coming up in 2026. And we figured we'd start a little bit easy, starting internal to Tammann and Chax.
00:04:20
KW: with our most ardent listener, our loyalist fan, perhaps our only downloader, but
nevertheless, she's been there through it all and a lot more.
KS: So let's bring her in. Welcome everyone to the kickoff of 2026. Article 19. Raquella
Freeman. Hello.
Raquella Freeman: Hi, everyone.
KS: So glad to have you with us.
RF: Long time listener, First time caller. Thank you. So excited to be here and be a part of this
for sure.
00:04:53
KS: Raquella, can you tell our listeners where you are situated right now?
RF: So I am in Green Bay, Wisconsin. It is the heat of winter, which means it's about negative
something out there right now. And I think we're about to have a snowstorm beginning tonight and into tomorrow.
00:05:11
KW: So you mean another snowstorm, right? Another snowstorm. Not the first snowstorm.
RF: Correct. We had our first snowstorm last week, so this will be our second snowstorm, and
it's only the second week of December, so we're doing great.
00:05:26
KS: Wow. Those Wisconsinners, you guys really earn your seasons, I gotta say.
RF: Yes. We spend most of our time in winter, and we really look forward to those three months of summer.
00:05:38
KS: Well, it's so great to have you with us and to kick off what I think is going to be, you know, an exciting year for us. We've got a little bit more flexibility to explore some topics. You know, you're one of our faves. So we had to do the call out first. Kristen, you want to kick us off with a softball question?
KW: Yeah, yeah. Well, Maybe not the softballs, I don't know. Softballs are hard, though. I've
been hit with one. So let's just start at the beginning. If you think about your family, Raquella, and your beginnings, because this is going to sound sort of random, but it all leads to the great pinnacle of you being with us now. When you think back to your, you know, your birth and your early childhood, how do you think your parents would have described those early years and how did they discover or diagnose your disability needs?
00:06:33
RF: That's a fun question. My early years were really complicated. I had health conditions right away. I was born about a month, almost two months early, and this was in the early nineties. So medical practice wasn't what it is today. And I had health complications, spent over a month in the hospital, and they weren't sure you know, what would happen after having a brain bleed. You know, they had no way of knowing what my life would be like until I grew up a little bit. And then as the years went on, my parents tell me that I was a very precocious child, like I was talking circles around them even starting as early as three years old. I could tell you about everything that ever happened and I wanted to tell you everything that I had in my head, but I couldn't sit up. So you had a child who could talk your ear off, but physically I was barely crawling, had limited mobility and couldn't sit up without a lot of support. So they knew something was going on, but the local doctors in my small town that I grew up in didn't know what it was. And they said, Oh, she'll catch up. Don't worry about it. She'll catch up. You know, we were getting older and my parents were like, this doesn't feel like a she'll catch up thing. So they took me to a more advanced doctor in Milwaukee, which is one of the bigger cities in Wisconsin. And they have a great children's hospital there where I met my doctor, Dr. Schwab, who diagnosed me within like a second of meeting me. They said they barely even walked into the exam room and he was like, Oh, so she has cerebral palsy. Like, let's get working on how we can support her and get her the support she needs. And it was him who, you know, helped my parents figure out what my diagnosis meant, started helping me get the medical equipment I needed to get support, get physical therapy and kind of get that process started in my life. And he was also the guy who did all of my surgeries for all of my young years, the surgeries that I've had. And he was great. Like he, he really did change my life. and like help my family and me figure out what the next steps were, but never held me back from anything I wanted to do. Just made sure that I had everything I needed to be successful.
00:08:53
KS: We've talked a lot, Raquella, about just the physical barriers that we have to face as
wheelchair users, navigating winter, navigating a lot of things. How did you learn in those early years and in your own life about all of the barriers, I guess, and then, you know, the ableism that comes with it? Did you start to see signs of that when you were a child, when you were trying to get involved in certain activities, or did it start to kind of creep in, yeah, over time?
RF: It w
Living and Working with Speech Recognition Technology
2025/09/09
Speech recognition technology has evolved from clunky early tools into powerful systems built into the devices we use every day. But for people with disabilities, these tools are far more than convenient; they can be life-changing.
In this episode, host Katie Samson traces the story of speech recognition through the lived experiences of Marcus Goldman, whose father with ALS used Dragon in its early days; physicist Jim Isenberg, who relies on Dragon after a spinal cord injury; and web developer Leah Mattern, who breaks down how design decisions impact user experience. Together, they explore the independence, frustrations, and opportunities that voice technology creates, and why inclusive design matters now more than ever.
Learn more about supporting people with disabilities in Tamman’s Learn Center and stay connected with us on LinkedIn.
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Living at the Intersection: LGBTQ+ and Disability Pride
2025/07/31
What does true inclusion look like, at work, in policy, and in community? In this powerful LGBTQ+ Pride and Disability Pride Month episode, Devon Murphy shares his journey of coming out as a trans man, navigating life with Autism and ADHD, and finding support along the way. Host Kristen Witucki and Devon also unpack the current threats to Section 504 and why standing together matters now more than ever.
Learn more about supporting people with disabilities in Tamman’s Learn Center and stay connected with us on LinkedIn.
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Show Notes:
HHS Section 504: The official rule for Section 504 including the 2024 update
Protect 504: Article 19 episode exploring the lawsuit questioning Section 504
DREDF Protect 504: An informative overview of the lawsuit questioning Section 504
Reimagining Event Accessibility
2025/06/30
Events are an opportunity for connection and discovery, but for people with disabilities, they often present barriers that make participation exhausting or even impossible.
Our hosts, Katie & Kristen, reflect on their recent experience at the 40th CSUN Assistive Technology Conference. From noisy hallways to heavy hotel doors, they break down what worked, what didn’t, and why accessible design starts with real-world feedback. Joined by accessibility designer and advocate with lived experience, Tiffany Burtin, they dive into event accessibility insights and planning strategies!
Learn more about supporting people with disabilities in Tamman’s Learn Center and stay connected with us on LinkedIn.
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We Can't Go Back on Section 504
2025/03/25
From healthcare to education to employment, this conversation goes beyond policy, it’s about people, their futures, and the fight to ensure accessibility remains a fundamental right.
Joined by Theo W. Braddy, a lifelong disability advocate and leader, in this episode, we explore the real-life impact of Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act. Theo shares his personal story and lived experience, unpacking the protections 504 provides, the barriers that still exist, and what’s at stake if these rights are weakened.
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Show Notes:
Protect 504: Article 19 episode that explores the legal side of this lawsuit with Alison Barkoff
DREDF Protect 504: An informative overview of the lawsuit that could result in Section 504 being overturned, and clear direction on what you can do to protect it
DREDF Protect 504 Plain Language: A plain language PDF version of the DREDF Protect 504 page
HHS Section 504: The official rule for Section 504, including the 2024 update
Texas v. Becerra: The official court document for the Texas v. Becerra case
Protect 504
2025/02/25
Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act has been a cornerstone of disability rights for over 50 years—so why is it under attack now?
In this special mini-sode, we are joined by Alison Barkoff, former head of HHS' Administration for Community Living and a lifelong disability advocate, to unpack the legal battle, the misinformation fueling it, and the action we need to take right now.
This isn’t a policy debate, it’s a fight for our rights, our healthcare, and our futures.
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Show Notes:
DREDF Protect 504: An informative overview of the lawsuit which could result in Section 504 being overturned and clear direction on what you can do to protect it
DREDF Protect 504 Plain Language: A plain language PDF version of the DREDF Protect 504 page
HHS Section 504: The official rule for Section 504 including the 2024 update
Texas v. Becerra: The official court document for the Texas v. Becerra case
The Voices of Screen Readers
2025/01/24
Explore the everyday use of screen readers and discover the nuances of navigating inaccessible web pages. Host, Katie Samson dives into this topic with co-host Kristen Witucki, who shares her personal journey with assistive tech, and accessibility expert Dax Castro. this episode dives into how screen readers work, common misconceptions, and their role in creating inclusive digital spaces.
Stay connected and continue the conversation with us LinkedIn.
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JAWS Screen Reader: Screen reader used by Kristen and the world's most popular screen reader
NVDA Screen Reader: Screen reader used by Dax and is available to everyone for free
Alt Text as Poetry: An artistic endeavor that reframes alt text as a type of poetry
Article 19 Episode, 'Can AI See the World the Way We Do?': Joined by Vice-Chair of Be My Eyes, Bryan Bashin, and Tamman document accessibility specialist, Liza Grant, we explore the differences of alt text written by a trained human and AI and what the future of AI looks like for blind and low-vision individuals.
Chax: Further connect with and learn from Dax and the Chax team
Access Ingenuity: Screen Reader class mentioned by Dax
Screen Reader DOS Computer Demo: YouTube video of Kristen's first Screen Reader
Embedding Access in the Arts
2024/11/22
Accessibility, advocacy, and the intersection of inclusivity with arts and culture—we explore these topics and more with Tamman’s new Senior Director of Education, Katie Samson. Drawing on her lived and professional experiences, Katie shares insights on projects like Carolyn Lazard’s Long Take and emphasizes the importance of embedding access into creative practices. Ultimately, uncovering how collective access can drive meaningful change in the arts and beyond.
Learn more about supporting people with disabilities in Tamman’s Learn Center and stay connected with us on LinkedIn.
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Carolyn Lazard: Long Take: Her debut solo exhibition in Philadelphia, Long Take continues Lazard’s ongoing experimentation with methodologies of access
File/Life: An exhibit remembering the stories of Pennhurst
Art Reach: A Philadelphia-based organization that creates, advocates for, and expands accessible opportunities in the arts so the full spectrum of society is served
Casting a Ballot for Accessible Voting
2024/10/08
Can we have true Democracy if voting isn’t accessible to everyone? Joined by Whitney Quesenberry, Rylin Rodgers, and Alexia Kemerling, professionals working on voting accessibility we discuss current barriers, what is being done to improve accessibility, and how voters, both with and without disabilities, can take action during the upcoming election.
Visit the resources below for more on this topic and stay connected with us LinkedIn.
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Meet Our Guests:
Whitney Quesenberry is the director of the Center for Civic Design and worked on many accessible voting projects including the VVSG, the federal voting system standards
Rylin Rodgers serves on Microsoft’s Accessibility Team as a Disability Policy Director. Influenced by her lived experience with disability, she strives to impact disability policy
Alexia Kemerling leads the REV UP Campaign at the American Association of People with Disabilities. Influenced by her lived experience, she strives to build civic engagement in the disability community and improve election accessibility
Show Notes
Accessible Voting: A guide to a private and independent voting experience:
State Guides for Disabled Voters: Created by AAPD’s REV Up Campaign, these guides can be downloaded to support disabled voters
The Center For Civic Design: Offering a plethora of resources for
Bing How to Vote: A resource created by Microsoft to provide easy and accessible voting information
NCAV: A guide for election administrators to making voting accessible for people with disabilities
Can AI see the world the way we do?
2024/09/03
AI has the potential to bring people who are blind or who have low vision closer and closer to the visual world.
Joined by Vice-Chair of Be My Eyes, Bryan Bashin, and Tamman document accessibility specialist, Liza Grant, we explore the differences of alt text written by a trained human and AI and what the future of AI looks like for blind and low-vision individuals.
Learn more about supporting people with disabilities in Tamman’s Learn Center and stay connected with us on LinkedIn.
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Show Notes
Be My Eyes: An app using live video to connect blind and low-vision users who want sighted assistance
Necklace Pendant Image: Photo of the discussed astrology necklace
FDR Monument Image: Photo of the discussed FDR Monument discussed
All About Alt Text: An Article 19 episode welcoming Tamman accessibility champions to discuss all things alt text
Spotlight: Be My Eyes: This episode of Article 19 highlights what Be My Eyes is, how it works, and the impact of the organization
Normalizing Workplace Accommodations (Part 2)
2024/08/07
Accommodations are a responsibility that an employee and employer share.
Continuing the conversation with our 6 guests from Part 1, we further explore the impact of accommodations and inclusive practices for both employees and organizations and the true cost of providing (or not providing) accommodations.
This episode is part 2 of a 2-part podcast, listen to the first episode here.
Continue learning about supporting people with disabilities in Tamman's Learn Center. Stay in touch with us on LinkedIn.
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Meet our guests:
Charlotte McGhee works in client services and lives with two invisible disabilities, ulcerative colitis and POTS
Daniel Hawkins is QA specialist and a deafblind individual with experience in braille, protactile, and ASL.
Leah Mattern is a digital accessibility engineer, a staunch disability advocate, and lives with a genetic condition called rod monochromatism which renders her legally blind
Liza Grant is a document accessibility specialist, a team lead, and a strong accessibility advocate.
Marty Molloy is the president of Tamman and an accessibility advocate.
Theresa Tuccillo is the administrative manager at Tamman and an accessibility advocate.
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Resources:
Haben Girma: The first Deafblind person to graduate from Harvard Law School, Haben Girma is a human rights lawyer advancing disability justice.
Sierra-Tamman 360-Degrees of Inclusion: A collaboration aimed at supporting your company in reaching your inclusive employment, professional development, and digital information goals.
Supporting Employees with Accommodations: The Sierra Group provides insight into inclusive hiring practices.
I just want to work: Article 19 host, Kristen Witucki shares her real-life experiences and offers perspective for people with disabilities who are looking for jobs.
Moving Through Guilt about Biases: This blog explores clear steps to take mindful action to foster inclusive hiring practices and create systemic change.
Creating a More Inclusive Hiring Practice: Offering a guide to employers to support them in creating a more inclusive hiring practice.
Normalizing Workplace Accommodations (Part 1)
2024/08/07
Workplace accommodations are a topic that drives fear and uncertainty for both employees and employers.
Featuring personal anecdotes and professional insights, this documentary-style episode shares 6 unique perspectives that uncover the challenges of navigating the job market and the workplace for people with disabilities, the emotions around asking for accommodations, and the experience of hiring and supporting people with disabilities.
This episode is part 1 of a 2-part podcast keep listening here.
Continue learning about supporting people with disabilities in Tamman's Learn Center. Stay in touch with us on LinkedIn.
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Meet our guests:
Charlotte McGhee works in client services and lives with two invisible disabilities, ulcerative colitis and POTS
Daniel Hawkins is QA specialist and a deafblind individual with experience in braille, protactile, and ASL.
Leah Mattern is a digital accessibility engineer, a staunch disability advocate, and lives with a genetic condition called rod monochromatism which renders her legally blind
Liza Grant is a document accessibility specialist, a team lead, and a strong accessibility advocate.
Marty Molloy is the president of Tamman and an accessibility advocate.
Theresa Tuccillo is the administrative manager at Tamman and an accessibility advocate.
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Resources:
Haben Girma: The first Deafblind person to graduate from Harvard Law School, Haben Girma is a human rights lawyer advancing disability justice.
Sierra-Tamman 360-Degrees of Inclusion: A collaboration aimed at supporting your company in reaching your inclusive employment, professional development, and digital information goals.
Supporting Employees with Accommodations: The Sierra Group provides insight into inclusive hiring practices.
I just want to work: Article 19 host, Kristen Witucki shares her real-life experiences and offers perspective for people with disabilities who are looking for jobs.
Moving Through Guilt about Biases: This blog explores clear steps to take mindful action to foster inclusive hiring practices and create systemic change.
Creating a More Inclusive Hiring Practice: Offering a guide to employers to support them in creating a more inclusive hiring practice.
Marketing with an Accessibility Mindset
2024/06/26
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Join members of Tamman's marketing team as we explore how we manage digital accessibility as marketers, designers, content creators, and communicators. We focus on the machinations and the nuance that goes into crafting our external image as a company as an organization that deeply, deeply cares about digital accessibility.
This episode is part of a three-part series focused on marketing and design with accessibility in mind. Check out the other episodes:
Using Emojis with Accessibility in Mind
Art and Accessibility
Additional Show Notes:
Hemingway Writing Software
Grammarly Writing Software
Web Content Accessibility Guidelines or WCAG
Art and Accessibility
2024/06/26
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Joined by Tamman designers, Tom Hall and Sam Waterman, we explore the intersection of art and accessibility! Diving deep into Tamman’s approach and how our team meets accessibility guidelines in both, professional designs and their personal projects.
This episode is part of a 3 part series focused on marketing and design with accessibility in mind. Check out the other episodes:
Emojis and Accessibility
Marketing with Accessibility
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