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A survivor's firsthand account. New details about what happened inside the school. And the questions investigators still need to answer. On 15 October 2026, a 16-year-old gunman entered Silver Rail Elementary School in Bend, Oregon, killing three children, aged five, eight and eleven, and 25-year-old teacher Megan Lambert. Another child and educational assistant Becky Drury were injured. In this special STOP THE KILLING bonus episode, former FBI agent and founder of the FBI's Active Shooter Program Katherine Schweit examines the latest developments in the investigation. At the heart of the episode is a powerful statement from Becky Drury, who survived serious gunshot injuries and has spoken publicly to correct inaccurate reporting about her actions during the attack. Katherine shares Becky's account and walks listeners through the emerging timeline, including the actions of a passing motorist, a teacher who confronted the attacker and an armed parent who ultimately stopped the shooter. **In this episode:** - What Becky Drury says happened inside the classroom. - Why accurate reporting matters for victims and survivors. - The timeline of the shooting and the actions of those who intervened. - How the firearm used may have influenced the events. - The unanswered questions about school security, firearm access and prevention. - Why Katherine believes we need to focus on solutions, not just the tragedy itself. This is the beginning of a series of conversations Katherine hopes to share about the Bend shooting, the investigation and what communities can learn about preventing targeted violence. **Support STOP THE KILLING on Patreon** Our paid Patreon members received early access to this bonus episode. Join our community to support independent, expert-led discussions about violence prevention and receive early access to selected bonus content. https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling **Content warning:** Discussion of a school shooting involving children, including descriptions of serious injuries. Information discussed reflects reporting and statements available at the time of recording. Investigative findings may change as further details emerge. **STOP THE KILLING — Understanding violence. Preventing tragedy.**

Join Sarah in London on 3–4 October 2026 for a weekend of ethical, victim-centred true crime. CrimeCon UK brings together victims’ families, advocates, investigators, forensic experts and leading podcast creators—all committed to using storytelling to inform, empower and create meaningful change. This year’s guests include Gabby Petito’s family and Claire Throssell MBE, who have transformed unimaginable personal loss into powerful advocacy for others. Book tickets:https://crimeconuk.seetickets.com/ Use code FERRIS at checkout for a discount. Explore CrimeCon UK:https://www.crimecon.co.uk/ See the guest-speaker line-up:https://www.crimecon.co.uk/guest-speakersc57db5fa Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What happens when a person disappears—and the world slowly stops looking? In this episode of Stop the Killing, Katherine Schweit is joined by Aimee Baker and Vanessa Ciccarelli, hosts of the podcast She Goes by Jane, which centres the lives and stories of missing and unidentified women. Aimee explains how her work began after she learned about an unidentified teenage girl found beside Interstate 10 outside Phoenix. Unable to comprehend how someone so young could remain nameless, she began researching missing-person cases and transforming that grief into poetry. Those poems eventually became her collection, Doe. After reading the book, filmmaker and photographer Vanessa approached Aimee about creating a documentary. The result was She, narrated by Kate Mulgrew and featuring poetry read by Coco Jones and Raven Goodwin. Their work then grew into the podcast She Goes by Jane, allowing them to investigate more cases and spend meaningful time exploring who these women were—not simply what happened to them. Katherine, Aimee and Vanessa discuss the staggering scale of the missing and unidentified persons crisis, why some cases receive far more attention than others, and how race, gender, sexuality, poverty and public perception can influence who is considered worthy of media coverage. They also explore the importance of placing victims—not offenders—at the centre of true-crime storytelling. Aimee shares a powerful exercise she uses with college students: asking them to list the names of every serial killer they can remember, followed by the names of their victims. The difference is immediate and uncomfortable. This conversation is ultimately about restoring humanity. Behind every statistic is a person with relationships, memories, dreams and people who may still be searching for them. How one unidentified teenager inspired Aimee’s poetry collection Doe The making of the documentary She Why Aimee and Vanessa created the She Goes by Jane podcast How quickly someone can disappear from their everyday life The overwhelming number of missing and unidentified people Why certain cases receive widespread coverage while others are ignored The effect of race, gender, sexuality and social status on media attention Remembering victims’ names rather than glorifying perpetrators The responsibility of true-crime creators to preserve victims’ humanity How individual stories reveal the scale of a much larger crisis Listen to She Goes by Jane on all major podcast platforms. To find the documentary She, search for Aimee Baker and the film title on Apple, Amazon and other streaming platforms. Doe by Aimee Baker Women Who Talk to the Dead by Katherine Schweit For bonus episodes, early access and additional content, join us on Patreon: Patreon.com/StopTheKilling Subscribe to Stop the Killing wherever you listen to podcasts, and please consider rating and reviewing the show—it helps more listeners discover these important conversations. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONMUNITY PODCAST  KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Watching Two Detectives  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Following the recent crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, we’re sharing the opening episode of Watching Two Detectives’ award-winning first season. If Tomorrow Never Comes tells the story of the random murder of 45-year-old Michael Furlong in Smithfield, New South Wales, on June 3, 2002. Unlike Stop the Killing’s interview-led format, Watching Two Detectives builds an entire season around one case, allowing the detectives who investigated it and the family who lived through it to tell the story in their own words. In this first episode, retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan are joined by retired Detective Inspector Clive Ainley, who led the original murder investigation. Michael’s former wife and best friend, Colleen, and his son, Luke, introduce us to the man behind the case: a happy, endlessly sociable father, passionate Beatles fan, practical joker and natural inventor. On the final day of his life, Michael visited an electronics store looking for parts for a device he hoped could prevent drivers from falling asleep at the wheel. He was there because he wanted to save lives. Instead, a completely ordinary afternoon became the beginning of one of the most callous and unusual murder investigations the detectives had encountered. Michael and his brother were approached by a stranger who claimed to have damaged their car. Within moments, Michael had been fatally attacked and his brother was running for his life. The detectives arrived to find a devastating crime scene, an eyewitness in shock and almost no obvious connection between Michael and the unknown attacker. Somewhere beyond the police tape, a killer had disappeared into Sydney. This episode explores the first hours of the investigation, the crushing task of telling Michael’s young sons that their father had been murdered and the last gift Michael gave Colleen: a CD containing the song If Tomorrow Never Comes. This is the opening chapter of a five-part true-crime investigation told through the detectives who worked the case and the family who have carried its consequences ever since. Listen to and follow Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 The remaining episodes of If Tomorrow Never Comes are waiting for you there, along with five complete seasons of victim-focused true crime, real police investigations and stories told by the people who lived them. This episode contains descriptions of murder, violence and traumatic bereavement. Listener discretion is advised. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Continue the full season Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Following the recent crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, we’re sharing the opening episode of Watching Two Detectives’ award-winning first season. If Tomorrow Never Comes tells the story of the random murder of 45-year-old Michael Furlong in Smithfield, New South Wales, on June 3, 2002. Unlike Stop the Killing’s interview-led format, Watching Two Detectives builds an entire season around one case, allowing the detectives who investigated it and the family who lived through it to tell the story in their own words. In this first episode, retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan are joined by retired Detective Inspector Clive Ainsley, who led the original murder investigation. Michael’s former wife and best friend, Colleen, and his son, Luke, introduce us to the man behind the case: a happy, endlessly sociable father, passionate Beatles fan, practical joker and natural inventor. On the final day of his life, Michael visited an electronics store looking for parts for a device he hoped could prevent drivers from falling asleep at the wheel. He was there because he wanted to save lives. Instead, a completely ordinary afternoon became the beginning of one of the most callous and unusual murder investigations the detectives had encountered. Michael and his brother were approached by a stranger who claimed to have damaged their car. Within moments, Michael had been fatally attacked and his brother was running for his life. The detectives arrived to find a devastating crime scene, an eyewitness in shock and almost no obvious connection between Michael and the unknown attacker. Somewhere beyond the police tape, a killer had disappeared into Sydney. This episode explores the first hours of the investigation, the crushing task of telling Michael’s young sons that their father had been murdered and the last gift Michael gave Colleen: a CD containing the song If Tomorrow Never Comes. This is the opening chapter of a five-part true-crime investigation told through the detectives who worked the case and the family who have carried its consequences ever since. Listen to and follow Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 The remaining episodes of If Tomorrow Never Comes are waiting for you there, along with five complete seasons of victim-focused true crime, real police investigations and stories told by the people who lived them. This episode contains descriptions of murder, violence and traumatic bereavement. Listener discretion is advised. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives Continue the full season Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In Part Four of this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former head of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program Katherine Schweit continues her conversation with retired New South Wales detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan. Together, they examine the police response to the Bondi Beach terror attack, the speed at which a mass shooting can unfold, and the impossible decisions officers must make in the first few minutes of an active-shooter incident. The conversation explores the difference between directed terrorism, inspired terrorism and independently motivated attackers, as well as the danger of extremist propaganda and livestreamed violence inspiring future attacks. Scott and Peter also address the misinformation that spread online in the immediate aftermath of Bondi. Images of wounded officers taking cover were used to accuse them of cowardice, while a photograph of a female officer directing civilians away from danger was falsely framed as surrender. Katherine explains why social-media snapshots cannot show what an officer was seeing, what intelligence they had or what tactical decisions they were being forced to make. The episode then turns to the extraordinary actions of Detective Senior Constable Cesar Barraza, the plain-clothes detective who confronted attackers armed with long guns from approximately 40 to 45 metres away. Katherine, Scott and Peter break down the difficulty of making accurate handgun shots over that distance, under extreme pressure, with civilians and fellow officers still in danger. This is not Hollywood. Real officers have limited ammunition. Real decisions are made in seconds. And real lives were saved. This episode is Part Four of a five-part Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover examining the Bondi Beach mass shooting, the police response, the human cost and the lessons that may help prevent future violence. This is not about politics. It is about facts, response and prevention. Follow both Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives so you do not miss the final episode in the series. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What happens when three experienced investigators from opposite sides of the world sit down to examine how police respond to an active shooter? In this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit joins retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan for an expert examination of the lessons that have reshaped mass-shooting prevention, preparation and police response. Katherine was working on national security and counterterrorism cases when the murder of 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School changed the direction of her career. Following the shooting, she was appointed to the White House team tasked with developing a coordinated national response to mass shootings and became the architect of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program. In Part One, Katherine explains how the devastating events at Sandy Hook helped accelerate a fundamental change in policing: moving away from the traditional strategy of “contain, negotiate and wait” towards the immediate deployment of officers to confront and stop an active threat. Peter and Scott reveal how those lessons travelled across the world and influenced Australian policing. They discuss the introduction of New South Wales Police’s Active Armed Offender training, the impact of the 2014 Lindt Café siege and the confronting reality of preparing ordinary frontline officers to run towards attackers armed with military-style weapons. Together, they explore: Why active-shooter incidents can be over within minutes The extraordinary risks faced by the first officers entering the scene Why an active shooter and a mass shooting are not always the same thing Why workplaces—not schools—account for many active-shooter attacks in the United States The challenges of negotiating with attackers driven by extremist or ideological motives Why warning signs must be recognised and reported before violence begins How information shared by one student helped prevent a planned school shooting Why measuring the attacks that never happened is so important Katherine also shares the remarkable story of the message that reminded her why Stop the Killing must continue: a school vice principal who credited the podcast with helping her team recognise the warning signs and prevent a planned attack. This conversation lays the groundwork for the next part of the series, when Katherine, Peter and Scott turn their attention to the December 14, 2025 Bondi Beach terrorist attack, examining the actions of the attackers, civilians and responding officers through their combined FBI and Australian policing experience. The attack targeted a Hanukkah celebration and killed 15 people.  This is not simply a conversation about what happened. It is a conversation about what has been learned, what has changed—and what still needs to change to stop the next attack. Listen now to Part One of this special multi-part crossover. Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489 Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd Stop the Killing Patreon:GUNS, SUICIDE AND THE WOMEN WHO TALK TO THE DEAD — PART TWO In Part Two of this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit continues her conversation with retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan. Before the team turns its attention to the Bondi Beach killings, they take a deeper look at the realities that sit behind conversations about firearms, mass violence and public safety. Katherine explains why she wrote Stop the Killing: A Simple Guide to the Second Amendment and why productive conversations about guns in the United States have become so difficult. With hundreds of millions of firearms already in circulation, she argues that prevention has to begin with the laws, risks and realities that currently exist—not the world people wish existed. The conversation also examines one of the most overlooked parts of America’s firearms crisis: suicide. Katherine explains that the majority of firearm deaths in the United States are self-inflicted, raising difficult questions about access to weapons during moments of crisis and how firearms can turn a temporary period of distress into an irreversible outcome. Peter, Scott and Katherine discuss: Why active-shooter attacks and other forms of mass violence are not directly comparable How the weapon used can dramatically change the number of casualties The difference between bolt-action, semi-automatic and automatic firearms Why Australia’s firearms restrictions mattered during the Bondi Beach attack How the elevated firing position at Bondi could have produced an even greater loss of life if different weapons had been available What the 2017 Las Vegas mass shooting demonstrates about firing speed, distance and crowd density Why statistics must be properly explained rather than used to support a predetermined argument The conversation then moves from mass-shooting prevention to another extraordinary investigation from Katherine’s career. Katherine introduces her book Women Who Talk to the Dead, which follows Detroit detective Shannon Jones and FBI forensic specialist Leslie Larsen as they uncover a connection between missing-person investigations and unidentified murder victims buried in paupers’ graves. What begins with one detective searching through decades-old paper files develops into the largest exhumation of murder victims ever undertaken by the FBI. Katherine reveals how a team of female detectives, prosecutors, forensic anthropologists and investigators volunteered their expertise and time to recover remains, obtain DNA and finally return names to people who had been unidentified for decades. Peter also reflects on his own experience working alongside a forensic anthropologist during the painstaking exhumation of a murder victim—and why a line in a news report stating that investigators “exhumed the body and obtained DNA” can never capture the time, care and expertise that work truly requires. This episode is about the human realities hidden behind the statistics: the people lost to firearms, the investigators who carry the responsibility of finding answers and the extraordinary work required to give unidentified victims their names back. And after two episodes of expert discussion, the stage is now set. In Part Three, Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan turn their combined FBI and New South Wales policing experience towards the Bondi Beach killings and examine the events of that tragic day. Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489 Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling Listening on the Stop the Killing feed? Head over to Watching Two Detectives, subscribe and discover the four seasons waiting for you. Listening on Watching Two Detectives? Search for Stop the Killing, subscribe and explore more than 300 episodes examining mass shootings, prevention, survival and the people working to create meaningful change. Please follow both shows and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing these independent, expert-led conversations. Join us next week for Part Three: the Bondi Beach killings through the expert lenses of Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan. This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, suicide, firearms, murder victims and human remains. Listener discretion is advised. This is a Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY LISTEN AND SUBSCRIBE Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What happens when three experienced investigators from opposite sides of the world sit down to examine how police respond to an active shooter? In this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit joins retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan for an expert examination of the lessons that have reshaped mass-shooting prevention, preparation and police response. Katherine was working on national security and counterterrorism cases when the murder of 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School changed the direction of her career. Following the shooting, she was appointed to the White House team tasked with developing a coordinated national response to mass shootings and became the architect of the FBI’s Active Shooter Program. In Part One, Katherine explains how the devastating events at Sandy Hook helped accelerate a fundamental change in policing: moving away from the traditional strategy of “contain, negotiate and wait” towards the immediate deployment of officers to confront and stop an active threat. Peter and Scott reveal how those lessons travelled across the world and influenced Australian policing. They discuss the introduction of New South Wales Police’s Active Armed Offender training, the impact of the 2014 Lindt Café siege and the confronting reality of preparing ordinary frontline officers to run towards attackers armed with military-style weapons. Together, they explore: Why active-shooter incidents can be over within minutes The extraordinary risks faced by the first officers entering the scene Why an active shooter and a mass shooting are not always the same thing Why workplaces—not schools—account for many active-shooter attacks in the United States The challenges of negotiating with attackers driven by extremist or ideological motives Why warning signs must be recognised and reported before violence begins How information shared by one student helped prevent a planned school shooting Why measuring the attacks that never happened is so important Katherine also shares the remarkable story of the message that reminded her why Stop the Killing must continue: a school vice principal who credited the podcast with helping her team recognise the warning signs and prevent a planned attack. This conversation lays the groundwork for the next part of the series, when Katherine, Peter and Scott turn their attention to the December 14, 2025 Bondi Beach terrorist attack, examining the actions of the attackers, civilians and responding officers through their combined FBI and Australian policing experience. The attack targeted a Hanukkah celebration and killed 15 people.  This is not simply a conversation about what happened. It is a conversation about what has been learned, what has changed—and what still needs to change to stop the next attack. Listen now to Part One of this special multi-part crossover. Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489 Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling Please follow both podcasts and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing independent investigations, sharing the experiences of survivors and law-enforcement professionals, and creating conversations that may genuinely help save lives. Join us for Part Two, when the experts begin their examination of the Bondi Beach attack. This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, terrorism, child victims and traumatic events. Listener discretion is advised. This is a Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY LISTEN AND SUBSCRIBE Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this Stop the Killing update, Katherine Schweit revisits the Richneck Elementary School shooting in Newport News, Virginia — the case where a six-year-old student shot his teacher, Abigail Zwerner, in January 2023. This episode focuses on the latest legal development: the dismissal of criminal charges against former assistant principal Ebony Parker, who had been accused of felony child abuse and endangerment after warnings were allegedly raised before the shooting. Katherine explains what happened in court, why the judge dismissed the charges, and why this case continues to raise difficult questions about school shooting prevention, gun safety, child access to firearms, school accountability, and legal responsibility. When a six-year-old cannot be held criminally responsible, who can be? The parent? The school? The administrator? The system? For more detail on the original incident, listen to our earlier episode:Richneck Elementary School – Stop the Killinghttps://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/richneck-elementary-school/id1585146489?i=1000610558667 You can also listen to our follow-up episode on the case here:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000621142440 In this episode:Katherine discusses the Richneck Elementary shooting, the criminal case against Ebony Parker, the role of school warnings, the mother’s conviction for child neglect, and the broader accountability crisis surrounding children, firearms, and school safety. Keywords: Richneck Elementary School shooting, Newport News school shooting, Abigail Zwerner, six-year-old shooter, Ebony Parker, school shooting prevention, gun safety, child access to guns, school accountability, Stop the Killing podcast, Katherine Schweit. SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS, SUPPORTS THE PODCAST CRIMECON UK TICKETS HERE CRIMECON US TICKETS HERE DON’T forget to use DISCOUNT CODE “FERRIS”  RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In Part Two of this powerful conversation, Katherine Schweit continues her discussion with Whitney Austin — survivor of the 2018 Cincinnati mass shooting and founder of Whitney Strong. In Part One, Whitney shared the moment she was shot 12 times in less than a minute while walking into her workplace. In this episode, we pick up where that story left off. Whitney takes us through the long road to recovery — multiple surgeries, months of physical and mental rehabilitation, and the determination it took to rebuild her life. But survival was only the beginning. Whitney shares how that experience became the catalyst for action — leading her to create Whitney Strong, an organisation focused on finding common ground to reduce gun violence through practical, data-driven solutions. This episode explores: The physical and mental recovery after surviving a mass shooting Turning trauma into purpose The creation and mission of Whitney Strong Community-based solutions to prevent gun violence The reality of pushing for change — and why persistence matters From hands-on safety training to advocating for targeted legislation, Whitney explains how small, practical actions can come together to save lives. This is a conversation about what comes after survival — and how one person can turn tragedy into impact. Learn more about Whitney’s work:Whitney Strong WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this powerful first part of a two-part conversation, Katherine Schweit speaks with Whitney Austin, survivor of the 2018 Cincinnati mass shooting and founder of Whitney Strong. Whitney shares the ordinary morning that became life-changing: driving from Kentucky to Cincinnati for work, walking into her office building while on a conference call, and suddenly finding herself caught in an active shooter situation. Shot 12 times, Whitney recalls the terrifying moments inside the revolving door, the clarity that helped her survive, the first responders who reached her, and the phone call to her husband that no family should ever receive. This episode explores survival, situational awareness, trauma, and the ripple effects of violence — not only on those physically injured, but on families, workplaces, first responders, and entire communities. In Part Two, Katherine and Whitney discuss recovery, Whitney Strong, and how Whitney turned unimaginable trauma into action. Learn more about Whitney’s work:Whitney Strong In this episode: Whitney Austin’s experience during the 2018 Cincinnati shooting Why situational awareness matters The role of first responders in active shooter events The impact of gun violence beyond the immediate victims What it means to survive — and begin again Part Two is out next week. For early access, ad-free episodes, and to support the work we do, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or visit:patreon.com/stopthekilling WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In Part 2 of this conversation, former FBI agent Katherine Schweit continues her deep dive with experts from Integras Intelligence — unpacking one of the most misunderstood and frustrating questions in the aftermath of targeted violence. Joining Katherine are: Michael Ginch, Manager, Investigations Forhad Razzaque, President Why many perpetrators have no obvious warning signs — and why that’s increasing The uncomfortable truth: people close to offenders are often shocked by what happens  Why “being on the radar” can mean almost anything — from minor past incidents to vague concerns The legal reality: why law enforcement can’t act without threshold evidence How free speech and civil liberties limit intervention — even when something feels wrong Why monitoring the internet is not as simple as it sounds (and why it’s impossible to catch everything) The problem of false positives — and why context matters more than keywords One of the most striking takeaways from this episode: 👉 Many organisations don’t even have a basic system for reporting concerns. Which means: Warning signs may never reach decision-makers Employees don’t know who to tell And even when they do… there’s no clear process for action As the Integras team explains, prevention isn’t about catching everything —it’s about what you do when something is flagged. You can’t prevent every act of violence. But you can build systems that make it harder to miss the signals that matter. Because when something goes wrong, the real question isn’t just: “Were they on the radar?” It’s: “What did we do when they were?” In Part 1, Katherine breaks down: What background checks actually reveal Why investigations are limited by law And how risk is assessed before an incident Learn more about the team behind this episode:👉 ⁠https://integrasintel.com/about/team/⁠ WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE ⁠@sarahferrismedia⁠  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON ⁠APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE⁠ OR SUPPORT US:⁠ ⁠⁠Patreon.com/stopthekilling⁠  Message us on instagram :⁠ ⁠ ⁠@conmunitypodcast⁠ ⁠@stopthekillingstories⁠ And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: ⁠www.katherineschweit.com⁠ RESOURCES ⁠Stop the Bleed training⁠ ⁠FBI ⁠ ⁠RUN, HIDE, FIGHT⁠ This is a ⁠CONmunity Podcast Production⁠ on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: ⁠CONNING THE CON⁠ ⁠KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON⁠ ⁠GUILTY GREENIE⁠ ⁠THE BRAVERY ACADEMY⁠ ⁠Klooghless: The Long Con⁠  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the aftermath of a shooting, we hear the same haunting phrase: “He was on the radar.” But what does that actually mean? In this episode of Stop the Killing, former FBI agent Katherine Schweit sits down with experts from Integras Intelligence to unpack the reality behind background checks, threat assessment, and the limits of what can — and can’t — be known before tragedy strikes. Joining Katherine are: Michael Ginch, Manager, Investigations Forhad Razzaque, President Together, they take you inside the world most people never see — the one behind the headlines. What a background check actually is — and why it’s not just a simple report The difference between public perception and real investigative capability Why not all information can legally be collected, shared, or acted upon The concept of “permissible purpose” — and how it limits investigations Why companies often run only basic checks (and what gets missed as a result) The tension between speed, cost, and depth when hiring or assessing risk How investigators assess potential threats using context — not just data As Katherine and her guests explain, background checks are not a crystal ball — they’re a snapshot in time, shaped by legal boundaries, resources, and human judgement.  Just because someone was “on the radar”…doesn’t mean there was enough evidence — or legal authority — to act. And that’s where the real complexity begins. In Part 2, Katherine digs deeper into the question everyone asks after an attack: 👉 If they were on the radar… why weren’t they stopped? You’ll hear: The legal thresholds that prevent intervention Why law enforcement can’t act on instinct alone The myth that “everything online is being monitored” And what responsibility falls on organisations — and individuals — to report concerns Part 2 is available now for subscribers on Apple Podcasts and Patreon. Learn more about the team behind this episode:👉 https://integrasintel.com/about/team/ WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EPISODE DROP: The Badmiral (CONmunity – Season 2, Episode 1)“Hoisting the Sails of Suspicion” This week on Stop the Killing, we’re briefly switching gears to bring you something a little different… and trust me, it’s worth it. It started, as these things often do, with a message. A listener reaches out with a story about a man calling himself an Admiral — a leader of a global disaster response organisation promising million-dollar budgets, elite teams, and international backing. But as I start pulling on that thread… the story begins to unravel. What follows is a world of: Fake titles and real military figures Promises of $250,000 salaries that never materialise A mysterious organisation called IntSAR And one question that refuses to go away… Is this the beginning of something legitimate — or the early signs of a global con? This is Episode One of The Badmiral — where we set sail into a story that quickly becomes stranger than fiction. You can listen to the rest of The Badmiral and explore CONmunity here:👉 Apple Podcasts (search: CONmunity Podcast) If you enjoy investigative storytelling like this, check out: Klooghless: The Long Con — a deep dive into one of New Zealand’s most fascinating fraud cases Watching Two Detectives — real detectives breaking down real cases with insider insight (All links are in the show notes) Huge congratulations to Katherine Schweit — her bookWomen Who Talk to the Dead is currently topping the Amazon charts in its category. If you’ve been meaning to read it, now’s your moment We’ll be back to regular Stop the Killing programming next week. But for now…welcome aboard The Badmiral. Follow Stop the Killing on Apple or Spotify Share this episode with someone who needs to hear it Leave a review to help more people find the show WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Thanks to Imron Corporation for hosting this live episode of Stop the Killing at SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles, recorded in January 2025. What do a vehicle attack in New Orleans…a car explosion in Las Vegas…and a targeted assassination in New York… all have in common? More than you think. In this special live episode — recorded on the field at SoFi Stadium in January 2025 — Sarah and Katherine break down three recent, high-profile cases and reveal the patterns that link them. Because while the headlines call them different things — terrorism, explosion, assassination — the reality is much simpler, and much more important: They are all acts of targeted violence. And if we understand the patterns, we have a chance to stop them. A vehicle used as a weapon.14 people killed. Dozens injured. How the attacker carried out reconnaissance beforehand Why temporary security gaps (like removed bollards) mattered The warning signs that were there before the attack How planning and opportunity collided in real time A shocking incident outside a Trump hotel just hours later. Why this was not what it first appeared to be The role of mental health and personal crisis How quickly speculation can spiral into misinformation The difference between targeted violence and self-directed harm A calculated, premeditated killing in broad daylight. 10 days of surveillance before the attack The escape plan — and where it unraveled How digital footprints helped track the suspect The disturbing rise of online glorification after violent acts These incidents may look different — but the behaviour patterns are the same Targeted violence is almost always planned, not spontaneous The warning signs are there — but often missed or dismissed Prevention starts with recognising changes in behaviour The public plays a critical role, often without realising it Across all three cases, one theme stands out: Behavioural change. Sudden isolation Dropping off the radar Changes in routine, work, or communication Fixation on a person, place, or grievance These are the signals that matter — whether someone is heading toward harming others or themselves. Most active attacks are over in minutes The opportunity to stop them is before they begin Prevention is always a shared responsibility This is not about fear.It is about awareness. This episode was recorded live in January 2025 during the Imron Safety and Security Conference in Los Angeles, surrounded by experts, practitioners, and innovators working on real-world solutions. We had a brilliant experience with the team at Imron Corporation — from the staff to the exhibitors, the conversations, and the technology on show. If you are serious about understanding where safety and security is heading, these summits are genuinely worth your time. They bring together industry leaders, law enforcement, and cutting-edge technology in a way that sparks real collaboration. Find out more about upcoming summits here:https://imron.com/pages/imron-security-and-safety-summit-detroit Follow Stop the Killing on Apple or Spotify Share this episode with someone who needs to hear it Leave a review to help more people find the show Different headlines.Same patterns. And the more we understand them, the better chance we have of stopping the next one. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.