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2021/09/23
Latest episode
2026/10/05
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50 min.
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Since the success of HomeCleanse, formerly known as All American Restoration, Michael Rubino continues to feature as a guest on podcasts to delve into mold discussions. In "Never Been Sicker," Michael Rubino has one-on-one conversations with individuals dealing with or recovering from toxic mold exposure, as well as leading doctors and experts. These discussions aim to empower those facing similar situations. Experiencing undiagnosed health issues can leave you feeling hopeless and alone. How do you determine the cause of your symptoms and address them? "Never Been Sicker" connects people affected by mold exposure, facilitating a better understanding through shared experiences. This awareness helps us create actionable plans. For more information, follow @themichaelrubino on Instagram and visit www.themichaelrubino.com and www.homecleanse.com.

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Most Replayed Moment: This NFL Champion Thought He Felt Fine... Until He Changed His Air
2026/10/05
Send us Fan Mail What if you feel perfectly healthy, but you have no idea how much better you could actually feel? In this Most Replayed Moment from Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino shares the story of working with two-time Super Bowl champion Logan Ryan. Logan wasn't dealing with a major health crisis. He was a professional athlete performing at an elite level and, from his perspective, he felt fine. But after Michael looked at his indoor environment, he found a moldy HVAC filter and other issues involving the home's air system. After changing the filter, introducing an air purifier in the bedroom, and beginning to address the indoor environment, Michael says Logan called him the next morning and told him: “I had the best sleep of my life last night.” Michael also recounts Logan saying his children hadn't complained about stuffy noses that morning after dealing with them for weeks. That led to a bigger question: If you think you feel fine, what are you comparing “fine” to? Michael and Dr. Jill Crista discuss indoor air quality, environmental exposure, sleep, performance, and why creating a healthier environment isn't only a conversation for people who already feel sick. 🎧 This clip is from the full Never Been Sicker conversation with Dr. Jill Crista on mold, mycotoxins, environmental exposure, and the impact our indoor spaces can have on our health: https://youtu.be/HyZhwJc4HUc
NBS #145: Your Child’s Behavior Could Be a Sign Something Else Is Wrong | Dr. Somer DelSignore
2026/09/24
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Somer DelSignore to discuss why she believes some chronically ill children are being missed by conventional approaches to pediatric care. Dr. DelSignore explains how her work evolved after encountering children with unusual combinations of behavioral changes, sleep problems, gut issues, neurological symptoms, chronic infections, and other concerns that weren’t improving with standard treatment. Instead of looking at each symptom in isolation, she developed the RESET framework, which considers inflammation, environmental toxins, gut health, infections, and overall health together. One of Dr. DelSignore’s biggest messages to parents: “Symptoms are not the problem. It’s the body communicating.” This conversation is about asking a different question. Instead of only asking how to suppress a symptom, what happens when we start investigating why it appeared in the first place? 🎙️ Never Been Sicker is hosted by indoor air quality expert Michael Rubino. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHAPTERS: 00:00 Intro 00:21 Why chronically ill children may be getting missed 01:38 The patients who changed how Somer practiced medicine 03:53 The RESET framework 05:56 The biggest misconception about chronic childhood illness 07:08 Mold exposure in chronically ill children 08:40 Is mold underdiagnosed in pediatrics? 10:09 Why environmental exposure can be overlooked 11:53 Are we normalizing dysregulation in children? 13:02 The connection between mold and Lyme 14:52 The biggest mistakes families make with mold illness 17:25 Mold, toxins & autism 18:44 Biological factors behind developmental and behavioral issues 19:49 Why aren't we talking more about neuroinflammation? 21:52 What parents should do when their child's behavior suddenly changes 22:37 Sudden rage, OCD, anxiety & intrusive thoughts 24:26 What pediatric medicine gets wrong 26:03 How pediatric healthcare could change 26:45 What will medicine understand differently in 20 years? 28:56 What today's pediatricians may be missing 30:03 What worries Somer most about the next generation 32:24 What gives her hope 33:27 The remarkable recovery of a critically ill 12-year-old 38:22 Rapid-fire questions 40:50 What to tell a parent who knows something is wrong 41:41 Where to find Dr. Somer DelSignore 43:00 Closing Pasted text ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Somer DelSignore is a board-certified pediatric provider and an advocate for root-cause medicine. With more than twenty years of clinical experience, her practice — Hudson Valley Integrative Health in Beacon, NY — draws families and adults from across the country and Europe who have moved through the standard medical system without answers. Combining her training with both  Dr. Richard Horowitz and Dr. Kenneth Bock, she has culminated her experiences infusing her own integrative beliefs to create the R.E.S.E.T. protocol, a clinical framework for diagnosing and treating multi-system illness. Her work is to demystify chronic illness in children— to think across systems where the standard model thinks within one specialty at a time. 🔵 Follow her: https://www.hudsonvalleyintegrativehealth.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 The Dust Test: https://www.thedusttest.com Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/
Most Replayed Moment: He Was Sleeping in a “Toxic Box” and the Mold Test Missed It
2026/09/16
Send us Fan Mail A mold inspector spent about 20 minutes in Brian Karr’s apartment, took an air sample, and told him there wasn’t a mold problem. But that wasn’t the end of the story. After Brian began experiencing unexplained symptoms, a more thorough investigation uncovered what the original inspection had missed. Water from a major leak had traveled through the ceiling and walls, and Brian describes realizing he had been “living and sleeping in a toxic box” with mold affecting all four walls of his bedroom. In this Most Replayed Moment from Never Been Sicker, Brian Karr and Michael Rubino break down why traditional air sampling can miss hidden mold and why understanding where mold actually grows matters when testing a home. Brian also discusses findings from an internal comparison he conducted involving air sampling, while Michael breaks down just how small an air sample can be compared with the total volume of air inside a room. Michael puts it simply: “That’s like you’re looking at one drop of water in an entire ocean and saying, ‘Yeah, the whole ocean’s clean, guys. Good news.’” If an inspection says everything is fine but something still doesn’t add up, this conversation explains why the testing method matters. 🎧 This clip is from the full episode of Never Been Sicker with Brian Karr. Watch the full episode for their complete conversation on hidden mold, mold inspections, testing, remediation, and creating a healthier indoor environment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoXDiNRV3BA
NBS #144: She Got So Sick, She Forgot Where She Lived
2026/09/10
Send us Fan Mail Dr. Diane Mueller was so sick that one day, during a five-minute walk around her neighborhood, she suddenly couldn't remember how to get home. She was experiencing significant pain, brain fog, headaches, chronic fatigue, and neurological symptoms. Yet after seeing multiple doctors, her labs kept coming back normal. Eventually, Diane began searching for answers herself. She tested herself for Lyme disease and mold illness, and that discovery ultimately changed not only her own health journey, but the way she practices medicine today. In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Diane Mueller to explore why chronic illness can be so difficult to unravel and why the answer is often more complicated than finding one diagnosis. They discuss Lyme, mold exposure, environmental toxins, testing limitations, mold colonization, autoimmune disease, relationships during chronic illness, and why two people can live in the same environment but experience completely different health outcomes. Dr. Diane also explains why she believes chronic illness should be approached as a puzzle with multiple pieces rather than a search for one singular “root cause.” ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHAPTERS: 00:00 Meet Dr. Diane Mueller 00:28 She Forgot Where She Lived 02:25 “I Thought I Was Dying” 03:36 When Doctors Couldn't Find Anything Wrong 04:50 Discovering Lyme & Mold Illness 06:33 How Being a Patient Changed Her Practice 09:45 It's Not in Your Mind 13:58 When Your Spouse Doesn't Believe You're Sick 17:08 How Chronic Illness Impacts Relationships 22:30 Mold, Lyme or Both? 24:50 The Problem With Mold Testing 27:31 The Dust Test & Testing Your Home 29:35 Can Mold Colonize the Body? 30:32 Environmental Toxins & Chronic Illness 33:05 Severe Symptoms That Improved After Mold Exposure Was Addressed 34:42 What Conventional Medicine Gets Wrong 37:18 Autoimmune Disease & Environmental Triggers 40:52 What Diane Couldn't Say 15 Years Ago 44:59 Diane's Current Health Routine 46:41 Rapid Fire 48:31 The Biggest Lie About Chronic Illness 50:38 A Message for Anyone Who Feels Hopeless 52:21 Where to Find Dr. Diane Mueller ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Diane Mueller, ND, DAOM Dr. Diane Mueller has been where you are. She knows the exhaustion of being told your labs are normal when you feel anything but. She knows what it's like to sit in a doctor's office and be told it's stress, or anxiety, or that you just need to sleep more — while knowing deep down that something is genuinely wrong. She battled chronic Lyme disease and mold illness herself — and she found her way through. She built My Lyme Doc because no one should have to fight as hard as she did just to get help. When you work with Dr. Mueller, you are not a file or a symptom checklist. She will sit with you, hear your whole story, and take it seriously. Her approach is gentle, thorough, and always guided by what feels right for you. She knows this journey is exhausting — and she is in your corner every step of the way. 🔵 Follow her: https://mylymedoc.com/ https://drdianemueller.com/ https://www.instagram.com/mylibidodoc/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 The Dust Test: https://www.thedusttest.com Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/
NBS #143: Why You Keep Hitting a Wall in Mold Recovery
2026/08/27
Send us Fan Mail What if you're doing everything to heal from mold, but you're still being exposed every single day? In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Brianne Quinn, a board-certified integrative health practitioner and founder of Ohana Wellness Company, to unpack the complicated relationship between mold exposure, chronic illness, histamine, the nervous system, Lyme, gut health, and environmental health. Brianne shares the story of a teenage client who experienced severe fatigue and eventually lost her hair. Testing identified multiple molds and mycotoxins, and the family ultimately discovered a significant mold problem in the home after previous air testing had indicated everything was fine. That leads Michael into one of the biggest problems he sees in mold investigations: relying on a small air sample as a screening tool for an entire room or home. From there, the conversation goes much deeper. One of the biggest takeaways? As Brianne puts it, trying to heal while you're still being exposed can be “like trying to drain a tub while the faucet is still on.” ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHAPTERS: 00:00 Meet Brianne Quinn 01:15 The Teenage Mold Case That Changed Everything 04:13 Why Air Testing Can Miss Mold 06:25 The Biggest Misconception About Mold 09:35 Are Allergies Really “Normal”? 12:34 Brianne's Own Chronic Illness Story 16:09 Why Lyme Disease Is So Often Missed 18:02 Anxiety, Mental Health & Environmental Illness 21:03 Mold, EMFs & the Modern Home 22:29 How Often Is the Environment the Problem? 23:19 Why You Can't Detox While Exposure Continues 27:01 The Sneaky Mold Symptoms People Miss 29:48 Why Mold Affects Some People More Than Others 32:15 Is Mold Illness Becoming More Common? 33:31 The Problem With the Term “Black Mold” 35:21 Why DIY Mold Remediation Can Backfire 38:12 Histamine, MCAS & Mold 41:51 What Brianne Calls “Mold PTSD” 44:24 Have We Created an MCAS Generation? 47:13 The Most Overhyped Wellness Trend 50:34 Where Functional Medicine Gets It Wrong 53:06 The Biomarker Brianne Wishes Everyone Knew 54:20 Probiotics or No Probiotics? 55:17 The Supplement People Waste Money On 56:38 What Brianne Would Ban From Grocery Stores 58:11 Stress vs. Food vs. Indoor Air Quality 59:00 The Emotional Side of Chronic Illness 1:01:02 Brianne's Hardest Personal Healing Journey 1:03:43 Where to Find Brianne ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brianne Quinn founded Ohana Wellness Company 10 years ago and has since become a global Wellness Educator & Advocate. Her true passion for uncovering the root cause of mysterious health issues makes her a valuable asset to clients, as they work together using a natural, whole-body approach to wellness.​ ​ After nursing school, it was clear to Brianne that the conventional medicine space was set up to mask health issues, not understand why they existed in the first place. After making the switch over to functional medicine, she now uses her own personal triumph over chronic illness, along with 10+ years of education and experience in the fields of holistic health and preventative wellness to create personalized wellness programs designed to achieve her clients' goals.  ​ After 6 years of running a successful clinic in the New Orleans area, Brianne now lives in Kodiak, Alaska and helps people virtually all over the world while enjoying nature & the outdoors. 🔵 Follow her: https://www.ohanawellness.com https://www.instagram.com/ohana_wellness ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 The Dust Test: https://www.thedusttest.com Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/
NBS #141: A Non-Toxic Architect Reveals What’s Wrong With Our Homes
2026/08/19
Send us Fan Mail We spend roughly 90% of our lives indoors, but how often are our homes actually designed with our health in mind? In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Kelly Grace, a non-toxic architect, to uncover what goes into creating a truly healthy home. Kelly explains why conventional architecture and building practices often prioritize cost, aesthetics, efficiency, and basic safety while overlooking how materials and design choices can affect the people living inside. They dive into building materials, moisture and mold, ventilation, flooring, drywall, furniture, mattresses, air quality, and the hidden decisions that can make the difference between a beautiful home and a health-supporting one. Kelly also reveals materials she personally avoids, why she believes drywall has no place in bathrooms, the problems she sees with popular flooring options like LVP, and why even brand-new homes can develop moisture problems. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction 01:00 What Is a Non-Toxic Architect? 04:00 Why Kelly Started Designing Healthier Homes 07:00 Are Modern Homes Actually Built for Health? 10:00 The Problem With Conventional Building Materials 14:00 Mold, Moisture & Modern Construction 18:00 Why Kelly Wouldn't Put Drywall in a Bathroom 22:00 Building Codes vs. Human Health 26:00 The Ventilation Problem 30:00 Flooring a Non-Toxic Architect Avoids 34:00 Hidden Toxins in Furniture & Mattresses 39:00 Why New Homes Can Still Have Mold 44:00 Building a Healthy Home From Scratch 49:00 Healthier Changes You Can Make Right Now 54:00 Kelly's Biggest Healthy Home Takeaways 57:00 Where to Find Kelly Grace ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kelly Grace is an accomplished architect based out of Washington DC, and the Managing Principal of Travis Price Architects, an award-winning architecture firm, widely applauded for their visionary aesthetics, informed by ecology, mythology, and technology.  TPA seeks to create an enduring archaeology for tomorrow, through culturally diverse inspirations, natural self-reliance, and high-performance building practices. Kelly is known to many as the “NONTOXARCHITECT” on social media, where she shares her advice on material selections, design details, indoor air quality, water filtration, biohacking, EMF mitigation, moisture control, and much more.  She is dedicated to designing healthy buildings, using non-toxic products, to promote wellness habits and optimal living.   Kelly is also a Founding Member of the Healthy Building Alliance, an up-and-coming platform to connect healthy building professionals; architects, builders, engineers, homeowners, consultants, and product manufacturers, to provide a network of resources and educational tools, based on proven building biology and building science principles. Kelly and her husband Matt live in Davidsonville, MD with their three children, Atlas, Adelyn, and Roark, twenty chickens, and dogs Blue and Ruby. 🔵 Follow her: @nontoxarchitect @travispricearch travispricearchitects.com  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 The Dust Test: https://www.thedusttest.com Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/
Most Replayed Moment: They Found Mold Growing Inside His Body... Then His Parkinson’s-Like Symptoms Disappeared
2026/08/13
Send us Fan Mail In this Most Replayed Moment from Never Been Sicker, Dr. Jill Crista shares a striking case involving a patient with Parkinson’s-like symptoms and signs of dementia who was found to have fungal growth in his sinuses. She explains what happened after it was removed, why mold can potentially colonize parts of the body, and how mycotoxins can continue to affect health beyond the initial exposure. Michael and Dr. Crista also dive into why mold-related illness is so difficult to recognize, including preliminary research showing that 80% of mold-sick participants in their dataset weren’t aware of a current or past mold exposure. This clip is taken from NBS #84: The Truth About Mycotoxins: Why You’re Still Sick After Mold Exposure | with Dr. Jill Crista. 🎧 Watch the full episode of Never Been Sicker to hear the complete conversation on mycotoxins, mold exposure, testing, treatment, and what people need to know about recovering from mold-related illness: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/the-truth-about-mycotoxins-why-youre-still-sick-after-mold-exposure/
NBS #141: The Hidden Problems in Your Home That Could Be Making You Sick
2026/08/05
Send us Fan Mail Could your home be making you sick... even if it looks perfectly clean? In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with building biologist Alex Stadtner to explore one of the most overlooked pieces of human health: the buildings we spend our lives inside. Alex explains what building biology is, why hidden moisture problems are far more common than most homeowners realize, and why traditional home inspections often miss issues that directly impact occupant health. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction 00:20 What Is Building Biology? 04:00 How Alex Got Into Healthy Buildings 05:30 How Much Does Your Home Affect Your Health? 07:20 Why Ventilation Matters 09:00 The Most Common Hidden Building Problems 11:00 Sick Building Syndrome Explained 13:00 Hidden Mold Most Homeowners Never Find 15:40 Common Symptoms of Building-Related Illness 17:30 How Building Biologists Inspect Homes 21:45 Why Traditional Home Inspections Miss Mold 24:00 The Biggest Healthy Home Misconceptions 27:30 Preventative Home Maintenance 30:00 Buying a Home? What to Look For 32:00 Can You Heal in the Same Home? 35:00 Where to Find Alex Stadtner ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alex Stadtner is a professional known for his work in the field of building science and environmental health, with a focus on improving indoor air quality and creating healthier built environments. Founder of Healthy Building Science, he has been involved in projects that analyze air contaminants, advise on remediation strategies, and support clients ranging from homeowners to commercial organizations. His work often bridges technical expertise with practical application, helping translate complex environmental data into actionable insights that promote safer, more sustainable living and working spaces. 🔵 Follow him: www.HealthyBuildingScience.com www.HomeStewards.com https://www.facebook.com/healthybuildingscience/# https://www.linkedin.com/company/2545770/  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 The Dust Test: https://www.thedusttest.com Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/
NBS #140: The Hidden Health Problems Your Blood Work Isn't Catching
2026/07/29
Send us Fan Mail You've been told your labs are normal. So why are you still exhausted? Why do you still have brain fog, hormone issues, weight gain, anxiety, or chronic fatigue? In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with functional medicine practitioner Dr. Heather Stone to discuss why conventional lab work often misses the earliest signs of dysfunction and how a root-cause approach can uncover what's really happening. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction 00:20 Why Normal Labs Miss Chronic Illness 02:40 Root Cause vs. Disease Labels 06:20 Blood Sugar: The Foundation of Health 11:55 Why Thyroid Isn't Usually the Root Cause 13:50 Mold, Mycotoxins & Autoimmunity 15:35 The Dust Test Discussion 17:40 Can You Heal While Living in Mold? 22:10 Why Some Patients Never Get Better 24:05 Brain Fog, Hormones & Fatigue 29:00 Test, Don't Guess 32:15 The Biggest Self-Healing Mistakes 35:00 Functional Medicine's Biggest Weakness 37:15 The Correct Order of Healing 39:45 Why Women Develop Autoimmune Disease 42:20 Is Mold the Missing Link? 44:20 Why Modern Homes Create More Mold 48:35 The Biggest Lie in Medicine 50:20 Controversial Health Opinions 55:15 Where to Find Dr. Heather Stone ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Heather Stone DC is one of the top functional medicine practitioners in the world. She has over 20 years of clinical experience in private practice. During that time she has successfully helped thousands of women overcome the symptoms of hypothyroidism and Hashimoto's thyroiditis. Her thyroid transformation blueprint has been used by hundreds of doctors, and thus has helped countless women return to happy, healthy, & lean. Her mission is to change the face of healthcare through her private practice, books, masterclasses, webinars, education programs, and retreats on her ranch in Texas. 🔵 Follow her: Instagram: @drheatherstone Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwRA4XSwUnTMZvUtRIITDrw -  Dr. Heather Stone, DC https://linktr.ee/drheatherstone Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/764005931160743 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 The Dust Test: https://www.thedusttest.com Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/
NBS #139: The Hidden Health Crisis Lurking Inside Millions of Homes
2026/07/15
Send us Fan Mail What happens when you've already tested your home for mold... multiple times... and every test says everything is fine? For Ali Moresco, the answer changed her life. After years of battling Lyme disease, chronic fatigue, brain fog, and unexplained symptoms, one of her doctors suggested something she hadn't considered: her home. The problem? Her house had already been tested for mold. Three different times. Every inspection came back "normal." It wasn't until a more comprehensive investigation uncovered hidden mold behind walls and beneath the shower that everything started to make sense. In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Ali to discuss her journey through chronic illness, Lyme disease, hidden mold exposure, and why so many people are told their homes are "fine" when dangerous contamination is still present. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction 00:22 Meet Ali Moresco 01:15 Life Before Lyme Disease 06:18 A Healthcare Journey Full of Dead Ends 12:45 Why Chronic Illness Patients Feel Dismissed 20:40 The Doctor Who Asked About Mold 24:05 Three Mold Inspections Missed Everything 27:10 Why Air Sampling Isn't Enough 35:25 The Biggest Mold Remediation Mistakes 44:40 Healthy Homes Start with Better Building 52:18 Cleaning Beyond the Mold 1:02:10 Mold Misinformation Online 1:16:50 The Dust Test Conversation 1:26:15 The Emotional Toll of Chronic Illness 1:36:40 Lessons from Hollywood 1:42:35 Rapid Fire Questions 1:45:40 AI, Technology & Health 1:48:15 Where to Find Ali ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ali Moresco is a healthcare communications strategist, patient advocate, and entrepreneur working at the intersection of media, medicine, and community impact. She is the founder and CEO of Moresco PR + Advisory, a healthcare communications firm specializing in podcast PR, thought leadership, and digital storytelling. As both a strategist and chronic illness patient, Ali is widely recognized for amplifying patient voices, building healthcare thought leaders, and advocating for Lyme disease awareness and chronic illness education. She currently serves as Executive Board Chair of Project Lyme and was named to the Nashville Business Journal’s 40 Under 40 list in 2025. 🔵 Follow her: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alitmoresco/?hl=en The Podcast ROI Playbook: https://www.amorescopr.com/podcast-pr The Authority Playbook:  https://www.amorescopr.com Mold Illness 101: A Patient Education Guide- a free resource: https://www.amorescopr.com/ali-moresco Project Lyme: https://projectlyme.org Moresco Public Relations + Advisory: amorescopr.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 The Dust Test: https://www.thedusttest.com Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/
NBS #138: The Two Tests Every Mold Patient Should Know About
2026/07/14
Send us Fan Mail What if the reason you still don't feel well isn't just your body... but the place you spend the most time? In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with functional medicine physician Kurt N. Woeller, DO, FMAPS to discuss why environmental exposures, especially mold and mycotoxins, are so often overlooked in medicine. Together, they explore why many patients continue searching for answers while an important piece of the puzzle is never investigated. Dr. Woeller explains why symptoms like fatigue, brain fog, headaches, poor sleep, digestive issues, allergies, and chronic inflammation can persist when environmental exposure isn't addressed. He also shares why testing both the home and the body creates a much clearer picture than either one alone. The conversation covers real patient stories, common mistakes people make when they suspect mold, and why removing ongoing exposure is often one of the most important steps toward recovery. Whether you're struggling with chronic illness, supporting a loved one, or simply want to understand how your environment impacts your health, this episode offers practical insight into a topic more physicians are beginning to recognize. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction 00:19 Meet Dr. Kurt Woeller 01:08 Why mold is missed in medicine 03:19 Biggest mistakes people make after mold exposure 05:08 Can hidden mold make you sick? 06:43 Why environmental medicine matters 08:18 Why you can't heal while ongoing exposure continues 09:29 Why testing the body alone isn't enough 12:07 Why testing the home alone isn't enough 14:06 How combining both tests changes treatment 16:14 Why comprehensive testing matters 18:17 One camera angle isn't enough 20:41 Test, don't guess 22:52 How targeted testing can save time and money 28:58 Why data still needs clinical guidance 29:28 Real patient success story 36:01 Why people normalize feeling sick 39:08 Common symptoms of mold exposure 45:48 Rapid-fire questions 48:23 Where to find Dr. Kurt Woeller 50:07 Closing thoughts ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 Get the bundle here: https://www.homecleanse.com/product/mycotox-profile-the-dust-test/ Kurt N. Woeller, DO, FMAPS (Fellow of Medical Academy of Pediatric & Special Needs), is a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine, integrative and functional medicine physician, and biomedical autism treatment specialist in clinical practice for nearly three decades.  Dr. Woeller is the Chief Medical Officer for Mosaic Diagnostics Laboratory (https://mosaicdx.com), and the education director and main course developer for his Integrative Medicine Academy (https://integrativemedicineacademy.com), an online academy for health professionals. His private practice, Sunrise Functional Medicine (https://mysunrisecenter.com), focuses on specialized laboratory testing and interventions for individuals with complex health disorders such as autism and other special needs conditions (e.g., mitochondrial dysfunction), autoimmune, gastrointestinal, and neurological problems, as well as chronic health conditions associated with environmental exposures, including mold and mycotoxins.  🔵 Follow him: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@integrativemedicineacademy. Substack: https://drwoeller.substack.com/ Functional Medicine Doc Talk podcast: https://functionalmedicinedoctalk.com.  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 Get the bundle here: https://www.homecleanse.com/product/mycotox-profile-the-dust-test/ Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/
NBS #137: The Gut Problem Behind Mold Illness with Dr. Michael Biamonte
2026/07/08
Send us Fan Mail Why does one person become severely ill from mold exposure while everyone else in the house seems fine? In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with holistic physician Dr. Michael Biamonte to explore the often-overlooked connection between mold illness, Candida overgrowth, gut health, toxic metals, parasites, and chronic inflammation. Dr. Biamonte explains why mold recovery isn't just about remediating your home. He discusses how gut dysbiosis, leaky gut, biofilms, and weakened immune function can make certain people far more susceptible to environmental toxins. The conversation also dives into long COVID, spike protein, heavy metals, personalized nutrition, pharmaceutical side effects, and why treating symptoms alone often isn't enough. Whether you're struggling to recover from mold exposure or searching for the root cause of chronic illness, this episode offers a comprehensive look at how your environment and your body work together. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction 01:02 Meet Dr. Michael Biamonte 02:10 Why Some People Get Sick From Mold 05:20 Candida, Gut Health & Mold Illness 08:00 How Mold Hides in the Body 11:15 Leaky Gut, MCAS & Chronic Inflammation 14:05 Why Mold Recovery Starts at Home 17:10 Can Mold Mutate? 20:00 Long COVID, Spike Protein & Mold 24:00 Root Cause vs. Symptom-Based Medicine 28:10 Heavy Metals & Environmental Toxicity 31:20 Parasites and Gut Dysbiosis 34:30 Are We Oversupplementing? 38:15 Pharmaceuticals & Nutrient Deficiencies 42:10 Why Healing Requires Fixing the Environment 45:20 Have We Never Been Sicker? 47:45 The Cholesterol Controversy 50:10 The Biggest Lie in Modern Medicine 52:30 Where to Find Dr. Michael Biamonte ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 Follow him: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/The-Biamonte-Center-241435772676317/  YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiss7csT6pBnPAyeNA5AbDQ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/drbiamonte/  LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-biamonte-b8616b8/  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 The Dust Test: https://www.thedusttest.com Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/
NBS #136: The Hidden Causes of Thyroid Disease
2026/07/01
Send us Fan Mail Millions of people struggle with thyroid disease, fatigue, autoimmune conditions, and unexplained symptoms without ever addressing what may actually be driving them. In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with chiropractor and thyroid expert Dr. Eric Osansky to discuss his own battle with Graves' disease, why conventional treatment often falls short, and how environmental toxins, chronic stress, gut health, and mold can all play a role in thyroid dysfunction. They also discuss why autoimmune diseases continue to rise, the connection between indoor environments and chronic illness, and what it really means to treat the root cause instead of simply managing symptoms. Whether you've been diagnosed with Hashimoto's, Graves' disease, another autoimmune condition, or you're simply searching for answers after years of unexplained symptoms, this conversation offers a different perspective on healing. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:00 Dr. Eric's Graves' disease journey 03:30 Symptoms that led to his diagnosis 06:00 Why he chose a natural approach 09:15 Why we've never been sicker 10:45 Environmental toxins and thyroid disease 13:45 Mold, autoimmunity, and chronic illness 15:20 The biggest lie in medicine 18:20 Why mold is often overlooked 22:00 Why fixing the environment matters 28:00 Why families experience mold differently 34:00 Hidden toxin exposure at home 39:45 Common thyroid myths 47:30 The SAVE Thyroid Method 49:45 What needs to change in thyroid care 52:40 Where to learn more from Dr. Eric Osansky ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 Follow him: https://savemythyroid.com/GravesNewsletter https://substack.com/@savemythyroid https://savemythyroid.com/podcast-2/ https://savemythyroid.com/book/ https://savemythyroid.com/youtube https://www.skool.com/healinggravesdisease/about https://www.youtube.com/@NaturalThyroidDoctor/videos https://www.facebook.com/groups/saveyourthyroid/ https://www.facebook.com/NaturalThyroidTreatment https://www.instagram.com/drericosansky/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 The Dust Test: https://www.thedusttest.com Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/
NBS #135: Inside the Failures of Modern Mold Testing with Josh Rachal of Texas Mold Inspectors
2026/06/24
Send us Fan Mail What happens when multiple inspectors tell a family their home is safe, but they're still getting sick? In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with mold investigator Josh Rachal of Texas Mold Inspectors to discuss hidden mold, flawed inspection practices, military housing investigations, and why so many families struggle to get real answers. Josh shares stories from the field, explains why traditional air sampling often misses contamination, and discusses what homeowners should know when searching for the root cause of health issues linked to water-damaged buildings. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chapters 00:00 Introduction 00:29 Meet Josh Rachal 01:08 Investigating Mold in Military Housing 03:41 Why Many Mold Inspections Miss the Problem 06:31 The Problem with Air Sampling 08:52 Why Some Inspectors Never Find Mold 10:57 What Fear-Mongering Actually Looks Like 13:25 The Cost of Bad Inspections 17:59 Real-World Examples of Hidden Mold 21:18 Mold Remediation Mistakes 25:53 Passing Strict Remediation Standards 29:54 Why Documentation Matters 32:44 Construction Defects and Building Failures 34:35 How Do We Fix This Problem? 39:34 Mold, Health, and Economic Impact 45:20 Fighting for Industry Change 56:40 Finding Mold Hidden Behind Walls 01:00:07 Showing Airflow and Exposure Pathways 01:03:21 Why Families Need Real Answers 01:08:51 Final Thoughts ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 Follow him: Texas Mold Inspectors: https://texasmoldinspectors.com Socials https://www.instagram.com/texasmoldinspectors ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 The Dust Test: https://www.thedusttest.com Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/
NBS #134: The Hidden Link Between Teeth, Sleep & Whole-Body Health
2026/06/18
Send us Fan Mail Straight teeth do not always mean healthy teeth. In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Azadeh Afzali to discuss functional orthodontics, sleep dentistry, TMJ, gum disease, root canals, implants, airway health, and the deeper connection between oral health and the entire body. Dr. Afzali explains why traditional orthodontics often focuses too heavily on appearance, while functional orthodontics looks at the root causes behind misalignment, bite dysfunction, airway restriction, sleep apnea, jaw pain, and long-term oral health problems. In this episode, they discuss: ✔️ Why straight teeth are not always healthy teeth ✔️ How your bite can impact headaches, TMJ, grinding, and pain ✔️ The connection between oral health and whole-body health ✔️ Why airway and sleep matter in dentistry ✔️ How narrow palates can affect breathing ✔️ Root canals, implants, gum disease, and bone loss ✔️ Why some orthodontic extractions may contribute to future problems ✔️ How functional orthodontics can help address root causes ✔️ The personal story that led Dr. Afzali to develop her approach If you have struggled with TMJ, sleep apnea, clenching, grinding, headaches, gum issues, or have been told your only option is surgery, this episode offers a new way to look at oral health. Chapters 00:00 – Meet Dr. Azadeh Afzali 02:06 – What Is Functional Orthodontics? 03:10 – Are Teeth Connected To The Whole Body? 05:48 – Root Canals & Missed Root Causes 07:45 – The Mouth-Body Connection 09:37 – Why Implants Aren’t Always The First Answer 12:20 – What Dr. Afzali Looks For In Patients 13:46 – Gum Disease, Bone Loss & Bite Dysfunction 17:30 – What Causes Traumatic Bite Problems? 20:48 – Myofunctional Education & Jaw Development 21:16 – The Story Behind Vital Ortho 23:06 – Avoiding Double Jaw Surgery 25:24 – How Her Son’s Bite Changed In 11 Months 26:19 – TMJ Pain, Sleep Apnea & Complex Cases 29:41 – The Body As An Ecosystem 30:42 – Air Quality, Sleep & Teeth Grinding 33:47 – Bone Cavitations & Healing 37:50 – The Biggest Lie In Orthodontics 40:14 – Why Straight Teeth Are Not Always Healthy 41:39 – Sleep Apnea & Old Orthodontic Practices 44:37 – What Is TMJ? 47:40 – How Bite Dysfunction Affects The Jaw Joint 49:14 – Sleep Apnea, Clenching & TMJ 52:00 – Where To Find Dr. Afzali ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 Follow her: https://doctorafzali.com/meet-dr-afzali/ @doctor.afzali  https://www.youtube.com/@doctorafzali  As a dentist, a mother, and a lifelong learner, I've always believed that true beauty beings with balance - inside and out. Over the years, I've met countless patients who were told that jaw surgery or tooth extractions were their only options. I knew there had to be a better, more compassionate way. That's why I developed VitalOrtho TM. A holistic, non-surgical orthodontic protocol that restores natural bite function, support TMJ health, and improves airway flow through gentle, guided expansion of the palate. By helping the face develop as it was meant to, VitalOrtho brings together function, beauty, and breath in a way that feels as natural as it looks. As a mother who faced these same challenges with my own child this method is deeply personal. It's not just about straightening teeth - it's about protecting confidence, health and long-term well-being without compromising facial structure or resorting to invasive procedures.  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 🔵 My Favorite Cleaning Products: https://www.homecleanse.com/shop/ 🔵 Remediation FREE Consultation: https://www.homecleanse.com/contact/ 🔵 The Dust Test: https://www.thedusttest.com Learn More: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/  https://www.homecleanse.com/shop Let’s Connect... Website: https://www.themichaelrubino.com/contact/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/themichaelrubino/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@themichaelrubino FB: https://www.facebook.com/themichaelrubino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themichaelrubino/

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Amused 2026/07/16
Great show
Michael is one of the best and is a key player in spreading mold awareness. Thank you michael
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Kristina Moreno 2024/08/29
Best Pod for all things Toxins
This is the BEST place to get info about mold, which I believe is the cause for most inflammation and disease. I am a mold patient and work for a CIRS...
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mr guder 2024/05/10
Best mold podcast ever👏🏻
This is definitely my favorite mold podcast… Michael is so easy to listen to, and so knowledgeable. I’ve learned so much and he is so helpful helping ...
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Helloamanda 2023/12/22
Avoid Home Cleanse by ALL COSTS
I would personally never trust Home Cleanse’s advice. I wish I had never hired Home Cleanse to remediate our mold problems. As someone with various au...
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jjdbsn 2022/01/18
Best podcast ever!
Thanks so much for educating us! I love the stories and I can relate. I live in mold and I’m trying to navigate through it. This podcast is helping so...
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Emlayy20 2021/09/29
10/10
I have learned so much from this podcast. Thank you for bringing awareness to this topic!
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