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What's at stake for faith freedom for all in our world today? Join the conversation on religion and the law, including the most significant cases concerning religion and religious liberty at the U.S. Supreme Court and the continuing impact of Christian nationalism. As lawyers and people of faith, BJC Executive Director Amanda Tyler and General Counsel Holly Hollman think these topics deserve respectful conversation -- something that we don't always hear in the public square or our social media feeds.
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Best of: Dr. Walter Brueggemann on Christian nationalism
2026/02/05
SHOW NOTES:
Segment one (02:45): Conversation with Dr. Walter Brueggemann
This program originally aired August 21, 2019, as episode 4 in our 10-part BJC Podcast series on the dangers of Christian nationalism.
One of the most influential Bible interpreters of our time, Dr. Walter Brueggemann was the author of more than 100 books, including The Prophetic Imagination. He passed away June 5, 2025. Visit his official website to learn more about his work and his legacy.
This was the fourth episode in our 10-part series on Christian nationalism in 2019. Other episodes are available at this link or on the feed called "BJC Podcast" on Apple Podcasts (iTunes), SoundCloud, Spotify, and more.
Amanda mentioned the Easter Monday message she sent in 2025, which quoted Dr. Brueggemann from this episode. Sign up for our email list to get more emails by visiting this link.
To learn more about BJC's work countering Christian nationalism, visit ChristiansAgainstChristianNationalism.org or BJConline.org/ChristianNationalism.
Respecting Religion is made possible by BJC's generous donors. You can support these conversations with a gift to BJC.
Best of: The myth of American 'chosenness' with Dr. Catherine Brekus
2026/01/22
How does the myth of America being a "chosen" nation lead to the religious nationalism we see today? In a presentation first aired in 2023, Harvard Divinity School's Dr. Catherine Brekus talks about how the myth is a complicated mixture of arrogance, exploitation, reform, racism and violence. She looks at the roots of this myth, how it has played out through our country's history, and how the recent surge of white Christian nationalism reflects a deep uneasiness about the loss of Christian privilege in this country.
This program originally aired on June 1, 2023, in season 4 of Respecting Religion.
SHOW NOTES
This episode was originally broadcast as episode 23 of season 4 in 2023. To hear the panel presentation that follows, check out episode 24 of season 4.
Segment one (01:39): Presentation from Dr. Catherine Brekus
Read more about Dr. Brekus on Harvard Divinity School's website.
This presentation was the 2023 Walter B. and Kay W. Shurden Lecture on Religious Liberty and Separation of Church and State, an annual lecture series sponsored by BJC. Dr. Brekus gave this presentation at Old North Church in Boston.
Following her presentation, Dr. Brekus joined a panel discussion alongside The Rt. Rev. Carol Gallagher, Ph.D.; the Rev. Darrell Hamilton; and Dr. Michael Hoberman. It was moderated by the Rev. Dr. Jaimie Crumley. You can hear their conversation in episode 24.
You can watch the full presentation online at this link, including the panel discussion that followed the talk.
Respecting Religion is made possible by BJC's generous donors. You can support these conversations with a gift to BJC.
Best of: A report, a prayer vigil, and a somber anniversary: Remembering the January 6 attack
2026/01/08
As Amanda's sabbatical begins, we are revisiting previous episodes of the podcast. This week marked the 5th anniversary of the January 6 attack on the Capitol. In today's episode of Respecting Religion, hear a conversation two years after the attack. Amanda and Holly share their reactions to the report released by the January 6 Select Committee at the end of 2022, including the lack of any mention of Christian nationalism and why that matters. They also discuss the importance of Christian leaders providing an alternative witness in 2023 to the Christian nationalism exhibited during the attack on the Capitol. And, they review how the insurrection still shapes our world and how it – surprisingly – doesn't shape Capitol tours.
This program originally aired on January 12, 2023, in season 4 of Respecting Religion.
SHOW NOTES
This episode was originally broadcast as episode 10 of season 4 in 2023. For another conversation about January 6 and Christian nationalism, check out S3, Ep. 12 from 2022.
Segment 1 (starting at 01:06): The Select Committee Report
Read the final report of the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol.
We played a clip compiling three individuals' statements during the January 6 hearings claiming the Constitution was divinely inspired: Greg Jacob, Rusty Bowers, and Rep. Liz Cheney. See the video on Amanda's Twitter (now X) account.
The comprehensive BJC/Freedom From Religion Foundation report on Christian nationalism and the January 6, 2021 insurrection is available online.
Click here to read the letter organized by BJC and Christians from Christian Nationalism to the Select Committee, asking them to investigate how Christian nationalism motivated and intensified the attack.
Watch Amanda's testimony about Christian nationalism before a House subcommittee in December 2022 at this link. Amanda and Holly discuss it in more detail in episode 9 of season 10.
Amanda and Holly mentioned this article by Vera Bergengruen for TIME Magazine: Why a Group of Christians Is Fighting the Growing Threat of Christian Nationalism
Additional media coverage on the absence of Christian nationalism from the final report:
Despite ample evidence, Christian nationalism mostly absent from final Jan. 6 report by Jack Jenkins for Religion News Service Christian nationalism conspicuously absent from January 6 report, featuring an interview with Amanda Tyler and MSNBC's Alicia Menendez on the Alex Wagner Tonight program
Segment 2 (starting at 21:01): Contrasting images on the 2nd anniversary of January 6
After this podcast was first released, BJC created a compilation of clips from the 2023 prayer vigil, which you can watch on BJC's YouTube channel.
See BJC's photos of the prayer vigil in this Instagram post. There are also photos still online from Getty Images and Reuters at the vigil.
Watch this short compilation of the two events on January 6, 2023, on the @EndChristianNationalism TikTok.
You can follow the Christians Against Christian Nationalism campaign on Instagram and TikTok at the handle @EndChristianNationalism.
Segment 3 (starting at 29:29): Scrubbing the insurrection from Capitol tours
Amanda and Holly discussed this story from The Washington Post by Joe Heim: Official U.S. Capitol tour guides told to only mention Jan. 6 if asked
Respecting Religion is made possible by BJC's generous donors. You can support these conversations with a gift to BJC.
'A vibrant and free civil society is core to religious liberty in our country'
2025/12/18
In our last show of 2025, Amanda and Holly talk about some of the news from the past week – including an expansion of the travel ban, devastating attacks around the world, and an appearance by Amanda before Congress to talk about the importance of protecting civil society. Plus, get an update on the podcast's plans for spring 2026 as Amanda embarks on her first sabbatical.
SHOW NOTES
Segment 1 (starting at 00:33): Amanda's most recent appearance before Congress
You can hear Amanda's opening testimony at 06:37 in this podcast.
You can watch it online at this link.
Amanda and Holly mentioned the open letter from more than 3,000 nonprofits – including BJC – rejecting presidential attacks on nonprofit organizations. You can read it online.
Segment 2 (starting at 19:42): A weekend of tragedy and a new travel ban
Rob Reiner came on our podcast in 2024 to discuss his documentary "God and Country," which takes a look at white Christian nationalism. It is available on several streaming services.
Read about the expansion of the travel ban in this story from The Washington Post by David Nakamura: Trump expands travel ban to 39 countries after shooting of Guard members
Segment 3 (starting at 27:06): Amanda's upcoming sabbatical and podcast plans
Read Amanda's column about her upcoming sabbatical in the winter edition of BJC's magazine, Report from the Capital: A season of rest and freedom
Respecting Religion is made possible by BJC's generous donors. Your gift to BJC is tax-deductible, and you can keep these conversations ad-free with a gift to BJC. Consider making a gift before the end of 2025.
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Video of our episodes are now on YouTube! Click here for the season 7 playlist.
Have a show you really want us to air during Amanda's sabbatical? Let us know at [email protected].
Religion in the military and the latest from Trump's Religious Liberty Commission
2025/12/11
The Trump administration created a "Religious Liberty Commission" in May, and it seems to be a mix of performative posturing and grievance airing, with some policy substance thrown in. Amanda and Holly discuss what this commission has – and hasn't – done so far, and they look more closely at this week's hearing on religion in the military. Littered with celebrities, many of the hearings are privileging certain religious views over others, often furthering "Christian nation" mythology and sharing general misinformation.
SHOW NOTES
Segment 1 (starting at 00:33): What is this commission about?
Read Amanda's statement after President Donald Trump's comments at the Sept. 9, 2025, meeting of the Religious Liberty Commission at this link.
Segment 2 (starting at 12:48): The hearing on religion in the military
Amanda was quoted in this article by Karen Brooks Harper for the Dallas Morning News: Dan Patrick-led religious liberty commission is solidly rooted in Texas
Amanda and Holly discussed this article by Jack Jenkins for Religion News Service: Defense Secretary Hegseth tests Constitution in Pentagon worship services
Do you want special emails about our show? Click here to sign up for our email list!
Video of our episodes are now on YouTube! Click here for the season 7 playlist.
Respecting Religion is made possible by BJC's generous donors. Your gift to BJC is tax-deductible, and you can support these conversations with a gift to BJC.
Updates on Oak Flat, the Johnson Amendment, and efforts to post the Ten Commandments
2025/12/04
Hear Amanda and Holly react live to some breaking developments in today's Respecting Religion podcast. One day after new legislation was introduced in Congress to save sacred Indigenous land, they discuss the history of and need for the Save Oak Flat from Foreign Mining Act. Plus, they talk about a brand-new class action lawsuit in Texas trying to halt the unconstitutional posting of the Ten Commandments in classrooms, and they share an update on the latest court activity regarding efforts to protect the Johnson Amendment.
This conversation aired live on social media on BJC's Facebook and YouTube channels on Thursday, December 4, at 12:30 p.m. ET / 11:30 a.m. CT.
SHOW NOTES
You can watch this podcast on BJC's YouTube channel.
Oak Flat:
Rep. Adelita Grijalva introduced the Save Oak Flat from Foreign Mining Act on Dec. 3, 2025. You can read more details in a release from her office, which includes a quote from Amanda.
For more on this issue, visit BJC's resource page at BJConline.org/SaveOakFlat
Johnson Amendment:
Read this piece by Amanda published in the Dallas Morning News about the latest hearing on the Johnson Amendment: The court case that could accelerate mixing religion and politics
Read BJC's statement about the members of Congress who reaffirmed their support for the Johnson Amendment in November at this link on our website.
For more resources on the efforts to protect the Johnson Amendment, visit BJConline.org/JohnsonAmendment
Ten Commandments in Texas:
Here's a roundup of news items relating to the ongoing battled over the forced posting of the Ten Commandments, from Jaden Edison, Eleanor Klibanoff and Alejandro Serrano for the Texas Tribune: As appeals court is poised to consider Texas' Ten Commandments law, other legal challenges mount
Read more about the latest class action lawsuit in this story from Baptist News Global: New class-action suit filed to stop Commandments in Texas
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A religious freedom case flying under the radar: SCOTUS hears Landor v. Louisiana Dept. of Corrections
2025/11/13
One religious freedom case at the Supreme Court isn't getting the sort of attention as others, despite how it's uniting groups that often disagree. So, why did the justices sound so skeptical in the courtroom? Amanda and Holly review this week's oral arguments in Landor v. Louisiana Department of Corrections, which involves the remedy available to a man whose religious freedom rights were violated when he was in prison. The violation isn't in question, so why is the remedy? Amanda and Holly review the details in this case, play audio from key moments in the courtroom, and discuss the statute that protects prisoners' religious freedom rights: The Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000.
SHOW NOTES
Segment 1 (starting at 00:35): RLUIPA, RFRA, and this case
Amanda and Holly previewed the Landor case earlier this season – watch their conversation on BJC's YouTube channel.
BJC joined a diverse group of organizations on a friend-of-the-court brief in this case on the side of Mr. Landor – click this link to read the brief and see the groups who found common ground.
RLUIPA is the acronym for the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act, passed by Congress in the year 2000. The acronym is often pronounced "Re-loop-ah." RFRA is the acronym for the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993, pronounced "Riff-rah."
For more on the 2020 decision in Tanzin v. Tanvir, read this article on our website: Supreme Court rules RFRA allows monetary damages against federal officials
Segment 2 (starting at 11:05): What happened in the courtroom? Arguments on behalf of Mr. Landor
The Supreme Court heard Landor v. Louisiana Department of Corrections on Monday, November 10. Visit the Supreme Court's website to read a transcript or hear the audio from the courtroom.
We played four clips from oral arguments in this segment.
Zack Tripp's opening statement, representing Mr. Landor (from 00:15-2:02 in the audio of the arguments) Exchange between Justice Samuel Alito and Zack Tripp (from 20:00-21:25 in the oral arguments) Exchange between Justice Sonia Sotomayor and Zack Tripp (from 23:35-25:56 in the oral arguments) Exchange between Justice Elena Kagan and Libby A. Baird, assistant to the solicitor general (from 1:06:38-1:07:38 in the oral argument)
Segment 3 (starting at 31:31): What did the state of Louisiana argue?
We played one clip from the oral argument during this segment:
Exchange between Justice Elena Kagan and Ben Aguiñaga, the solicitor general of Louisiana (from 1:38:33-1:40:26) Read more about the arguments in this article by Amy Howe for SCOTUSblog: Court appears skeptical of prison inmate's religious liberty claim
Video of our episodes are now on YouTube! Click here for the season 7 playlist.
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Criminalizing Mercy: Sanctuary and Government Repression of Migrant Justice
2025/11/06
Today, we are bringing you a special presentation on the contested issue of "sanctuary," which continues to cut into the immigration debates in our country. Dr. Sergio M. González traces the sanctuary movement to its roots in the 1980s and examines how we arrived at a moment where mercy is met with repression. This presentation was given on the campus of the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, Minn., on Oct. 22, 2025, as part of BJC's annual Walter B. and Kay W. Shurden Lectures on Religious Liberty and Separation of Church and State.
SHOW NOTES
Segment 1 (starting at 00:35): Introduction
Dr. Sergio M. González is a historian of U.S. immigration, labor and religion. A professor at Marquette University, he is a co-founder and former organizer for the Dane Sanctuary Coalition.
He also is the co-creator of a podcast titled "Sanctuary: On the Border Between Church and State."
Segment 2 (starting at 04:45): Presentation from Dr. Sergio M. González
This is a recording of a lecture from Dr. Sergio González that took place Oct. 22, 2025, at the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, Minn. Watch the full presentation, including the audience Q&A, on BJC's YouTube channel at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSnDp8hPNIo
Dr. Gonzalez mentions a document called "Religious Liberty and Immigration: Legal Analysis of Past and Future Claims." You can access it on the website of the Law, Rights & Religion Project.
This program was part of BJC's annual Walter B. and Kay W. Shurden Lectures on Religious Liberty and Separation of Church and State. Learn more at BJConline.org/ShudenLectures.
Video of our episodes are now on YouTube! Click here for the season 7 playlist.
Do you want special emails about the show? Click here to sign up for our email list!
Respecting Religion is made possible by BJC's generous donors. Your gift to BJC is tax-deductible, and you can support these conversations with a gift to BJC.
Why is the Johnson Amendment under attack again?
2025/10/30
We hear a lot of misinformation about a long-standing part of the tax code that protects the nonprofit sector, and it's newly under attack in a questionable manner. On this episode, Amanda and Holly discuss the Johnson Amendment, what it does and doesn't do, and the concerning way the Trump administration is trying to undo it without going through a normal process. They also provide reminders of what all nonprofits – including houses of worship – can do without jeopardizing their 501(c)(3) status under that current law. It's a curious case – politicians say no one wants this part of the tax code, but it's proven popular over and over again. Join them for this conversation.
SHOW NOTES
Segment 1 (starting at 00:35): The protections of – and support for – the Johnson Amendment
Video of our episodes are now on YouTube! Click here for the season 7 playlist.
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Segment 2 (starting at 15:41): Various attempts to undermine and to protect this part of the tax code
Read more about the work of faith leaders to protect the Johnson Amendment throughout 2017 and into 2018 by visiting BJConline.org/faith-voices
Segment 3 (starting at 30:54): What's next?
For resources on the Johnson Amendment from BJC, visit our website at BJConline.org/JohnsonAmendment
The litigation mentioned in this program is continuing. There will be a hearing on this case November 25 in Dallas. The hearing was originally for November 7 in Washington, D.C., but it was rescheduled due to the ongoing government shutdown – Amanda and Holly discussed that briefly in last week's live episode.
Respecting Religion is made possible by BJC's generous donors. Your gift to BJC is tax-deductible, and you can support these conversations with a gift to BJC.
Amanda and Holly LIVE on peaceful protests, the impact of the government shutdown, and more
2025/10/23
In this LIVE conversation, Amanda and Holly take a moment to catch up and review some of the recent news since last week's program. They discuss how religious leaders have been engaging in peaceful protests of immigration raids, how the ongoing government shutdown is impacting court cases, a change in Oklahoma regarding Bible teaching in public schools, and more. This show first aired live on Thursday, October 23, at 11 a.m. Eastern Time on BJC's YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram channels.
SHOW NOTES:
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Read more about how faith leaders are protesting immigration raids in this article by Jack Jenkins for Religion News Service: After clergy arrests, religious pushback to ICE expands in Chicago
Amanda and Holly talked about Ryan Walters and his edict to have certain Bibles in Oklahoma public school classrooms on Episode 2 of Season 6: Oklahoma and Texas try to force Bible teaching in public schools
Read this update on what's happening in Oklahoma now: New Oklahoma schools superintendent rescinds mandate for Bible instruction in schools
Hear Amanda on NPR's All Things Considered in this piece from Jason DeRose: Progressive Christians counter Christian Nationalism message
Respecting Religion is made possible by BJC's generous donors. Your gift to BJC is tax-deductible, and you can support these conversations with a gift to BJC.
The Supreme Court in a new era
2025/10/16
As the Supreme Court begins a new term, we can't ignore what else is going on in our country – attacks on the rule of law, weaponization of the Department of Justice, the militarization of American cities, disruptive and chaotic immigration enforcement, and a government shutdown. Amanda Tyler and Holly Hollman are back for a new season of Respecting Religion to bring thoughtful conversations to these issues and more at the intersection of religion and the law. In the season 7 premiere, they focus on the current Supreme Court term, including a case with an egregious violation of a person's religious freedom rights that brought together unlikely allies.
SHOW NOTES
Segment 1 (starting at 00:38): Welcome back to season 7
BJC (Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty) is also the home of Christians Against Christian Nationalism.
Amanda's book is titled How to End Christian Nationalism, and it is available wherever you get your books.:
Video of our episodes are now on YouTube! Click here for the season 7 playlist.
Do you want to receive special emails about the show? Click here to sign up for our email list!
Segment 2 (starting at 07:26): A disturbing case on religious freedom coming to the Court
Read about the three cases from last term in this article from BJC's magazine, Report from the Capital: Supreme Court issues decisions on religious charter school, exemptions and opt-out rights
Amanda and Holly mentioned Steve Vladeck's One First newsletter.
BJC joined a friend-of-the-court brief in Landor v. Louisiana Department of Corrections. Click here to read the brief and see the groups that came together across other ideological lines. Read more about the case in this article on our website. The Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in Landor on November 10.
Here's another preview piece, by Amy Howe at SCOTUSblog: Court to decide whether government officials can be held personally liable for violating inmate's religious liberty
Segment 3 (starting at 26:42): What else can we expect from the Court?
Read more about Chiles v. Salazar in this article by Amy Howe for SCOTUSblog: Majority of court appears skeptical of Colorado's "conversion therapy" ban
You're invited! Join us in Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minnesota, Oct. 21-23 for a special event focussed on the Sanctuary movement. We're honored to welcome Dr. Sergio González, historian, author, and co-creator of the podcast Sanctuary: On the Border Between Church and State, to explore the history, challenges, and future of the movement. Visit BJConline.org/ShurdenLectures for more details and links to sign up.
Respecting Religion is made possible by BJC's generous donors. Your gift to BJC is tax-deductible, and you can support these conversations with a gift to BJC.
Join us for season 7 of Respecting Religion
2025/10/10
With attacks on the rule of law, the militarization of troops in American cities, and a new Supreme Court term starting up, there is no better time to tune in to Respecting Religion. Join Holly and Amanda as they return for a new season to share analysis, opportunities for action, and ways to make sense of issues at the intersection of religion and the law.
Respecting Religion is available on your favorite podcasting platform, and now, for the first time, with video on YouTube! We'll see you on October 16 for the season 7 premiere of Respecting Religion!
Subscribe today, and hear previous episodes on our website: https://bjconline.org/respectingreligion/
End of term roundup
2025/07/03
On our season 6 finale, Amanda Tyler and Holly Hollman explore some of the consequential decisions from the final days of the Supreme Court term, including Mahmoud v. Taylor – which involves parents who want to opt their children out of curriculum they find in conflict with their religious beliefs – and U.S. v. Skrmetti, which focuses on access to medical care for transgender youth. They discuss the real world implications of these and other recent rulings. Amanda and Holly also celebrate a decision from the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals striking down Louisiana's law requiring the posting of the Ten Commandments in every public school classroom and share why this case might find its way up to the Supreme Court before too long.
SHOW NOTES
Segment 1 (starting at 00:38): Recent activities and news
For the latest on the budget reconciliation bill and ways to make your voice known, visit BJConline.org/budgetbill2025
Segment 2 (starting at 07:01): A federal court decision and a Supreme Court case with far-reaching implications
Roake v. Brumley is the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals case that struck down the Louisiana law mandating the posting of the Ten Commandments in classrooms. Read more about the decision and BJC's brief on our website: Federal appeals court finds Louisiana's Ten Commandments law unconstitutional as Texas enacts a similar measure
Trump v. CASA is the case often called the "birthright citizenship" case that is about national injunctions. Amanda and Holly recommended listening to the oral arguments and reading the decision and the dissent. All are available on the Supreme Court's website.
Segment 3 (starting at 19:07): The decision in Mahmoud v. Taylor and its potential impact
Amanda and Holly discussed oral arguments in Mahmoud v. Taylor in episode 15 of season 6. You can read the decision and the dissent on the Supreme Court's website.
Holly mentioned this piece on the case from Religion News Service: 'We were called book burners': Families react to SCOTUS LGBTQ+ books decision
Segment 4 (starting 46:13): U.S. v. Skrmetti and what's ahead for the Court
Amanda and Holly discussed U.S. v. Skrmetti in episode 6 of season 6. You can read the decision and the dissent on the Supreme Court's website.
For more on the case involving the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act that the Supreme Court will hear this fall, read this piece by Adam Liptak for The New York Times: Supreme Court to Hear Rastafarian Prisoner's Suit Over Shaved Dreadlocks
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Christian nationalism and the Texas public sphere
2025/06/26
What's the difference between religious privilege and religious freedom? How does Christian nationalism spread? Why do so many ideas that start in Texas expand to other parts of the country? On this podcast, we bring you a special panel discussion on Christian nationalism in the Texas public sphere, recorded live on April 8. It features BJC Executive Director (and Respecting Religion co-host) Amanda Tyler, scholar David Brockman, professor Mark Chancey, and journalist Robert Downen. Moderated by Jack Jenkins, it was part of an all-day event focused on telling the story of religion in Texas through journalism, hosted by the Texas Tribune in partnership with Religion News Service, the Institute for Diversity and Civic Life, and Southern Methodist University's Religious Studies department.
SHOW NOTES
Segment 1 (starting at 00:33): Introducing today's show and the panelists
Learn more about the Texas Tribune's April 8 event titled "Telling the story of religion in Texas through journalism" on the website of the Texas Tribune. The website page dedicated to the event includes YouTube videos of each speaker and panel presentation.
The day-long event was held in partnership with the Texas Tribune, Religion News Service, the Institute for Diversity and Civic Life, and Southern Methodist University's Religious Studies department.
Segment 2 (starting at 02:51): Panel presentation
You can watch a video of this presentation on YouTube, including a Q&A following the conversation.
The panelists are:
Amanda Tyler, executive director of BJC (Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty), lead organizer of Christians Against Christian Nationalism, and co-host of this podcast Dr. David Brockman, a non-resident scholar in religion and public policy at Rice University's Baker Institute who also serves as an adjunct professor at Texas Christian University Dr. Mark Chancey, professor of religious studies at SMU Robert Downen, senior writer at "Texas Monthly" The moderator is Jack Jenkins, national reporter at Religion News Service.
NOTE: After this panel was recorded, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott did sign legislation requiring every Texas public school classroom to display the Ten Commandments. Read more in this piece by Sameea Kamal for the Texas Tribune: Texas will require public school classrooms to display Ten Commandments under bill signed by governor
Amanda and Holly talked about the Texas Bible curriculum in episode 2 of this season: Oklahoma and Texas try to force Bible teaching in public schools
Respecting Religion is made possible by BJC's generous donors. Your gift to BJC is tax-deductible, and you can support these conversations with a gift to BJC.
What's going on with the Supreme Court, a new travel ban, and the military in L.A.?
2025/06/12
With decisions from the Supreme Court, a new travel ban, and a federally militarized presence in Los Angeles, there are many activities in our world that deserve attention. Amanda and Holly discuss several current events in this episode, including the revival of one of the ugliest policies of the first Trump administration. Plus, they review the unanimous decision in a Supreme Court case about religious exemptions to employment law and discuss the Court's decision not to hear a case involving the protection of sacred land.
SHOW NOTES
Segment 1 (starting at 00:37): Recent and still-developing news
Holly and Amanda discussed changes in policy about sensitive locations in S6, Episode 10.
We discussed the case of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia in a special episode released April 21 with Melissa Rogers.
We discussed the harmful school voucher provision in the "big beautiful bill" during their live episode, released May 27. Hear the episode at this link or in your podcast feed, or watch it on YouTube.
Join BJC for a webinar on the problems with the budget reconciliation bill on Monday, June 16, at 2:30 p.m. Click here to register for the event, which is hosted by BJC, NETWORK Lobby for Catholic Social Justice, and Bread for the World.
Read more about the fallout from Rep. Mary Miller referring to a Sikh prayer leader as a "Muslim" and erroneously claiming our country was founded as a "Christian nation" in this article by Andrew Solender for Axios: Rep. Mary Miller faces bipartisan fury over "ignorant" Sikh comment
In memory of Dr. Walter Brueggemann, listen to his 2019 conversation with Amanda on our podcast series exploring the dangers of Christian nationalism: Theological view of Christian nationalism with Walter Brueggemann
Segment 2 (starting at 13:17): The new travel ban
After President Trump issued his new travel ban on June 4, Amanda released a statement you can read on BJC's website: BJC condemns new travel ban as 'state-sanctioned discrimination'
Visit BJC's website to read more about the case of Trump v. Hawaii and the history of the travel ban.
Support the NO BAN Act: Click here to use BJC's form to contact your members of Congress about the legislation.
Segment 3 (starting 20:09): The decision in Catholic Charities Bureau v. Wisconsin Labor & Industry Review Commission
Supreme Court decisions we are waiting for include:
Mahmoud v. Taylor (Hear a discussion of oral arguments in S6, Ep. 15) U.S. v. Skrmetti (Hear a discussion of oral arguments in S6, Ep. 06) The case Apache Stronghold v. U.S. involves the sacred land of Chí'chil Biłdagoteel — loosely translated in English as "Oak Flat." Read more about the denial of cert on BJC's website: U.S. Supreme Court declines Oak Flat petition, allows for federal transfer of sacred land to mining company. Amanda and Holly talked about this issue on a podcast back in 2022: S3, Ep. 17: Religious freedom and our Indigenous neighbors: Save Oak Flat.
Amanda and Holly talked about the oral arguments in Catholic Charities Bureau v. Wisconsin in Ep. 12: Back to SCOTUS: Regular business in disturbing times
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I so appreciate people like you who are thoughtful Christians yet recognize the sacred importance of keeping religion out of our secular government. A...
BreakfastToys 2023/11/16
I’m here ala strict scrutiny
Being that I’ve never had a particular interest in the ways religious institutions and actors have influenced and shaped law, I wasn’t thinking I’d be...
Billybill1984 2023/07/24
Thank you
OMG, nuance. Thank God, and thank YOU!
DeedeeB. 2023/07/06
Smart and compassionate coverage of the issues
I so appreciate this show and have learned so much from it. I have an abiding interest in the US Supreme Court and this show is a great addition to my...
NancyG52 2023/05/04
Fighting Christian Nationalism
Christian nationalism is a threat to both American democracy and to Christianity. This podcast is a great resource to explain why that statement is tr...
Kimileo 2023/04/15
An essential listen
I just finished the episode on Christian nationalism, and it was incredibly helpful from the standpoint of establishing a definition in my mind, and b...
lutheranzephyr 2023/02/04
Smart & Faithful
Respecting Religion articulates a faithful Baptist, Christian perspective on church autonomy and freedom from governmental influence, and equally our ...
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