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Wine After Work is designed for women who are ready to embrace their autonomy and take full ownership of their careers. Join us as we learn from one another and dive into meaningful conversations. In a landscape where women remain underrepresented across various industries! While I focus on the Architectural, Engineering, and Construction sectors, our discussions feature an incredible lineup of women from diverse fields—female founders, CEOs, entrepreneurs, creatives, and inspiring trailblazers. Hosted by Bryce Batts, this podcast inspires and empowers you to attract and retain top talent!
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Prioritization Beats Productivity: Autonomy, Appreciation, and Culture
2026/10/21
Firms promote their strongest technical people into leadership and then give them almost no training. When a team struggles, leaders often blame the team. Amanda Van Der Heiden has seen this play out across dozens of organizations, and she argues the problem usually starts with how people are being led.
Amanda and Bryce talk about how to get to the real reason someone wants out, and how to make core values stick after the launch. They cover how to adapt your leadership style without losing yourself, and what has to be in place before a leader can hand over real autonomy. Amanda explains appreciation styles and the platinum rule. She makes the case for prioritization over time management, and she shares how a 75-person company with no budget got a big initiative done anyway.
This episode is for new managers, firm owners, and anyone who has been promoted for their technical skills and now leads people.
About Amanda Van Der Heiden:
Amanda Van Der Heiden partners with organizations on strategic learning, leadership development, and culture transformation. She has 20+ years of experience across people, project, and process management, and has led enterprise rollouts for 40+ companies in 15+ countries and 12+ industries. She's an award-winning speaker, consultant, coach, and author, with a master's in industrial/organizational psychology, CPTM certification, and credentials from ATD, SHRM, and McKinsey. She started her career in early childhood development and education, and today she's a working mom of two who blocks off 8 a.m. for the school and daycare run.
What We Cover:
Introduction and Amanda's background across 40 clients, 15 countries, and 12 industries
What to do when someone says "this isn't for me anymore"
Why a high performer going quiet should get leadership's attention
Getting 3,000 people in five countries to live the same five core values
Why a values poster on the wall doesn't change behavior
The three stages of leadership: yourself, individuals, then teams
Adapting your communication style for engineers, techies, and salespeople
Why your C players might just need a different leader
What has to be true before you hand over autonomy
Appreciation styles and the platinum rule
Why prioritization matters more than time management
The Eisenhower matrix and the "one thing" question
What a people-first culture actually takes
The biggest mistake leaders make with culture change
Boundaries, working in global markets, and parenting two small kids
The career advice Amanda would retire for good
Where to find Amanda and her free goal workbook + closing thoughts
Key Takeaways:
Before labeling someone a C player, check three things. Are they in the right role? Do they have processes that set them up to succeed? Do they have the support and tools they need?
Autonomy needs structure first. Give people a clear picture of what good looks like, a plan with the right amount of management, and regular evaluation. High performers still want feedback on what to do better.
Use the platinum rule when you give praise. Treat people the way they want to be treated. Public praise can make an introvert want to hide, while a quiet email can make an extrovert feel overlooked.
Adapting your style isn't being fake. Amanda lowers her voice, shortens her sentences, and leads with data when she presents to technical audiences, because the goal is to be understood.
Ask what one thing would make everything else on your list easier or unnecessary. If a task is neither important nor time-sensitive, take it off the list.
Resources + Links:
Amanda's free goal development workbook: GoGTDS.com
Amanda on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandavanderheiden/
The 5 Languages of Appreciation in the Workplace by Gary Chapman and Paul White
The Eisenhower Matrix
The ONE Thing by Gary Keller (source of the "one thing" question Amanda references)
You Might Enjoy: On Purpose with Jay Shetty
2026/10/21
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Ezra Frech shares the mindset, discipline, and determination that have shaped his career and led him to win two Paralympic gold medals. From turning heartbreak in Tokyo into motivation to using visualization and meditation to perform under pressure, Ezra reveals how he prepares for the biggest moments of his career. He also opens up about competing on Dancing With the Stars, breaking down misconceptions about disability, and founding Angel City Sports to make adaptive sports more accessible to the next generation.
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What We Discuss:
00:00 Introduction
01:20 "Pressure Doesn't Exist"
02:51 The Day Ezra Was Born
06:24 The 15-Hour Surgery At Age 3
11:15 The Kindergarten Letter
13:29 Learning To Handle The Stares
16:21 Overcoming Stigma And Bullying
23:18 Falling In Love With Sports
27:00 Changing Culture & Looking Ahead to LA 2028
31:09 Mentorship From Pau Gasol
33:56 A Message From Novak Djokovic
36:53 How Do You Define Confidence?
40:43 The Moment That Inspired His Paralympic Dream
44:35 Making Team USA At 14
48:41 How Running Blades Actually Work
52:09 Tokyo Heartbreak & "The Man In The Arena"
58:53 Visualizing Paris Gold Every Morning
01:04:50 Protecting His Good Leg
01:11:33 Winning Double Gold & The 20-Minute Rule
01:17:00 Meditation Under Pressure
01:20:34 A Lifelong Dream to Compete on Dancing With the Stars
01:24:14 Inside the Dancing With the Stars Family
01:27:19 Learning To Dance On A Blade
01:30:12 Pressure Is A Privilege
01:32:10 Making Adaptive Sports Mainstream
01:37:10 Ezra On Final 5
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Nobody at Work Is Your Friend: Relationships, Boundaries, and the Right Fit
2026/10/14
Every career advice list says to protect your relationships. Almost nobody explains what that looks like day to day. Julia Hurley has built a real estate business, a political career, and an athlete management company on relationships, so she knows the how.
Julia and Bryce compare matchmaking in real estate and recruiting, and why buyers and candidates are both getting choosier. Julia explains how she teaches college athletes to be the CEO of their own lives by separating the people who support them from the people who manage their money and careers. She shares her rule of thumb for rental property and the "asset or liability" game she plays with her kids. She also explains why she believes nobody at work is your friend. The conversation ends with an honest look at what it takes to lead as a woman in the South.
This episode is for professionals managing their own career moves, anyone who has blurred the line between coworkers and family, and women who are often one of the few in the room.
About Julia Hurley:
Julia Hurley is a broker and the owner of Just Homes Group, a boutique real estate firm in Knoxville, Tennessee, with fifteen years in the industry and a business built almost entirely on past-client referrals. She is a former elected official, an author, and the founder of an athlete management and mentorship company. That company helps college athletes build investments, financial literacy, and professional teams that last beyond their playing days. She's a die-hard Tennessee Vols fan and plays "asset or liability" with her kids to teach them how money works.
Website: thejuliahurley.com | LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/juliahurley
What We Cover:
Introduction and Julia's path from public office to real estate to athlete management
Why every industry Julia has worked in comes down to relationships
How one athlete client turned into an athlete management business
Why a burned bridge travels fast in niche industries like AEC
What makes someone say yes to a move right now, and why buyers are getting choosier
Real estate and recruiting as matchmaking
Knoxville's growth, and what it can learn from Nashville's boom
Teaching college athletes to be the CEO of their own lives
Support system vs. management system
The "asset or liability" game, and why your home is a liability
The 1% rule for rental property
The worst career lesson Julia learned: nobody in business is your friend
Leading as a woman in the South
Where to find Julia and her books + closing thoughts
Key Takeaways:
Separate your support system from your management system. The people who helped you get here deserve your loyalty. They don't automatically get a vote on your next move.
Hire your advisors independently. When one stops fitting, you can replace that person without unraveling everything else.
Work relationships need boundaries. You can golf with your boss and go to dinner at their house, but when "we're family" replaces clear expectations, people get hurt.
The right fit has to line up on every front at once: location, people, money, and timing. That's true for a house and for a job.
For women who are one of the few in the room, stepping into the conversation is not optional. If you don't insert yourself, you're out of it, even if no one meant to leave you out.
Resources + Links:
Julia's website: thejuliahurley.com
Julia on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/juliahurley
Just Homes Group: justhomesgroup.com
Julia's books, a children's book and a real estate coaching book, available at thejuliahurley.com
This episode includes discussion of real estate and investing for informational purposes only. Nothing in it is financial advice.
Leadership Is a Craft: High-Agency Leadership in AEC
2026/10/07
Most AEC professionals move into leadership without any training for it. Engineering school didn't teach it and architecture school didn't either. So we copy whoever led us and hope it works. Zack Tomlin argues there's a better way, and that architects and engineers are wired to learn leadership as a craft.
Zack built Maple Engineering from a two-person operation at a Raleigh public library into a 20-person firm and sold it after 12 years. He explains why leading highly technical experts calls for high-agency leadership instead of command-and-control. He walks through the five levels of his Mountain of Why and why emotional intelligence is only one leg of the stool. He gives principals a concrete exercise to try this week, and he lays out the ROI math on developing your leaders.
This episode is for firm owners, principals, studio leads, and any technical professional who just got handed a team.
About Zack Tomlin:
Zack Tomlin, PE, is a mechanical engineer and 20+ year AEC industry veteran. He founded Maple Engineering and led it for 12 years, growing it to about 20 people through a successful acquisition. He is the national award-winning author of Craft: The Expedition of Business and founder of Your Craft Your Climb (YC2), a leadership development practice working exclusively with engineers, architects, construction managers, and other AEC professionals. His wife is an architect, so the industry follows him home.
Website: yourcraftyourclimb.com | LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/zack-tomlin
What We Cover:
Introduction and Zack's background, from the Raleigh public library to Maple Engineering
The shift from "an engineer with support staff" to a real organization at six to eight people
Why designing an organization is human-centered design, like designing a building
The Mountain of Why: five levels of decision-making, from copying others to first principles
High-agency leadership and why sports and military analogies can stifle technical experts
The leader's job: clarity in the face of external confusion, order in the face of internal chaos
Why every firm needs a compelling story, and how that creates cohesion across offices
Why emotional intelligence is only a third of effective leadership
The staff experience journey, and the project folder that wasted everyone's time
The ROI of leadership development for small and mid-size firms
How engineers, architects, and construction managers tend to lead differently
The leadership advice Zack thinks is wrong: "hire people smarter than you"
Where to find Zack and his book, plus closing thoughts
Key Takeaways:
In AEC, your team often knows more about their piece of the work than you do. Your job is to create the conditions for them to make good calls on their own, not to direct every move.
Leaders owe their teams two things: clarity about where you're going, and order around standards and accountability. Think traffic lights. Everyone knows the rules and what happens when you run one.
Emotional intelligence is the price of admission. You also need a stronger mental model of people and organizations, and an understanding of how people prefer to work and solve problems.
Walk your staff's workday like a customer journey this week. Open the files, find the SOP, wait on the software, and fix one point of friction. You're paying for very expensive brains.
A studio lead running six or seven people oversees $700K to $1M in payroll. A $2,000 to $5,000 investment in that person needs well under a 1 to 2 percent improvement to pay off.
Resources + Links:
Your Craft Your Climb: yourcraftyourclimb.com
Zack on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/zack-tomlin (subscribe to his biweekly newsletter on high-agency leadership)
Craft: The Expedition of Business by Zack Tomlin: free copy at yourcraftyourclimb.com, you just pay shipping. Reach out to Zack directly for a signed copy.
The Leaky Bucket: Why Women Leave HVACR and What Leadership Can Actually Fix
2026/09/30
Bryce just got back from Women in HVACR in Indianapolis, where she spoke to a room full of owners and managers about a number that should keep them up at night: women are leaving the trades at roughly three times the rate they are getting hired into them. Every job fair booth, every high school program, every recruiting push is water poured into a bucket with a hole in the bottom.
This is not a DEI session. There is no slide arguing that diversity is good for business. This is a retention conversation built for the owner who has one woman on a crew of nine and cannot figure out why she is already looking, and for the leader watching a $22,000 replacement cost hit the P&L for the third time this year and calling it a fluke. Bryce walks through the real representation numbers, the four reasons women actually leave, the single factor that moves retention more than everything else combined, four shifts you can start this week, and a 30/60/90 day plan you can run without anyone's permission. There is also a self-audit exercise in the middle, so grab a pen or hit pause when you get there.
For HVACR and trade firm owners, field managers, operations leaders, and anyone in AEC who is tired of paying to replace the same role over and over.
About Bryce Bryce Batts is the co-CEO of Career Collective, an AEC-focused recruiting and coaching firm, and the founder of Bryce Batts Consulting, where she runs a 16-week engagement helping firms rebuild hiring, retention, and leadership systems. She has spent more than a decade recruiting in the built environment, is a certified career coach, the author of The Career Architect, and the host of Women in AEC: Wine After Work. She speaks regularly on talent systems, leadership, and women in the trades.
What we cover Why women leaving HVACR is a leadership problem, not a pipeline problem
The real representation numbers, and why the 45% growth stat is misleading
What turnover actually costs, and why it never shows up on the P&L as turnover
The four explanations leaders give, and what exit research says instead
Reason one: harassment, and the 80% number that does more daily damage
Reason two: isolation and why being the only one compounds everything
Reason three: childcare, accommodations, and PPE that does not fit
Reason four: the promotion path nobody ever wrote down
The single biggest retention lever, and why most managers have never been told about it
Four shifts, each with something you can do this week
The stay audit exercise, and the one question to end it with
A 30/60/90 day plan
Key takeaways Recruiting harder makes a retention problem worse, not better. If the back door is open, more spend at the front door just means you lose more people faster while every metric on your recruiting dashboard says you are winning.
The manager is the retention strategy. A positive relationship with a direct manager is consistently the number one retention factor for women in the trades. Not pay, not benefits, not the values page on your website.
Turnover is a margin problem that got miscategorized as an HR problem. Replacing a skilled trade employee runs $15,000 to $30,000, and construction turnover can run 50% to 200% of the departing person's salary. It hides in overtime, recruiting spend, and callbacks.
Practical barriers are operational fixes, not cultural ones. Properly fitting PPE, scheduling, and parental accommodations require someone to place an order and update a document. That is exactly why it is damning when they do not get done.
Fix the system, not the individual. An arrangement you build for one person and never write down leaves when she does, and the next person fights the same fight alone.
Do this week Pull your last three complaints and read what happened after they were filed. If the answer is "I talked to them," that is a conversation, not a resolution.
Ask every person on your team what their next role is. If they cannot answer, neither can you.
Pull your PPE and scheduling policies and ask who each one was designed for. Then go look at what is physically in the supply room.
Name one connection point you can create in the next 30 days for anyone who is the only one on their crew. Put a date on it.
Sources referenced CSG Talent, IWPR, ACHR News, She Builds the Nation, Construction Owners Association (2025), People Element (2025–26)
Resources + links Career Collective: https://www.mycareercollective.com
Women in HVACR: https://www.womeninhvacr.org
Connect with Bryce LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryce-batts-recruiter
Email: [email protected]
Instagram: @brycebatts
Website: www.brycebatts.co
The Four Rungs on the Ladder: Why AEC Firms Hire Women and Lose Them Anyway
2026/09/23
Barb Allen spent 20 years on commercial job sites, starting as a carpenter apprentice in 1997 and working her way up to superintendent. She was the first woman her company had ever hired out of college for that track. She left the built environment in 2022 after a meeting where leadership told her she was "difficult to work with," then admitted nobody could say how.
That meeting became a book. In OneLadder to Leadership, Barb names four gender specific challenges as rungs on an unsafe ladder: missing, broken, sticky, and slippery. In this conversation she breaks down all four, tells the story of the day she stood up to a guy on her crew and changed how the whole site treated her, and explains why "are you the safety girl?" stopped making her blood boil once she figured out what to do with it.
This one is for AEC leaders trying to understand why the women they hire don't stay, and for women in the industry who have been handed feedback that sounded like a suggestion and only later found out it was a requirement.
About Barb Allen
Barb Allen is a keynote speaker, author, and 20 year construction veteran who climbed from carpenter to project executive and operations director on projects including $100MM+ high rise towers. She holds a bachelor's degree in construction management and spent most of her career as a commercial job site superintendent before leaving the field in 2022 to speak and write full time. She is the author of OneLadder to Leadership and hosts the Constructive Behaviors podcast. She is most active on LinkedIn, and yes, she has opinions about golf.
Website: https://constructionbarb.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/constructionbarb/
Book: https://www.amazon.com/ONE-LADDER-LEADERSHIP-everyone-ladder/dp/B0GT7MBTGS
What We Cover
Introduction and how Barb found construction management two majors and one near dropout into college
Day one as a carpenter apprentice in January 1997, and the tool bags nobody told her to buy
Why the hazing started three months in, not on day one
The G.I. Jane moment with Don, and what changed on that site afterward
Backstage support and why an apology after the meeting is not the same as backup during it
The missing rung: why women get feedback that sounds like a suggestion
Whether women leaders are as direct as men, and Barb admitting she was harder on the women who worked for her
The broken rung: golf, hunting trips, and where sponsorship actually gets formed
The sticky rung: how the industry misreads confidence, and the case for humility, curiosity, and collaboration
The slippery rung: unconscious bias, "are you the safety girl?", and the response that actually lands
The conversation that ended Barb's 20 years in the built environment
Three types of firms when it comes to women, and what each one is getting wrong
What Barb would tell a young woman walking onto her first job site
Where to find Barb and closing thoughts
Key Takeaways
If your feedback to a woman on your team sounds like "maybe you could think about doing this differently," you have not given feedback. Direct and actionable, or it goes to the bottom of her list with everything else that is optional.
Stop evaluating confidence by who speaks first and asks the fewest questions. Barb's reframe: humility, curiosity, and collaboration. The person willing to say "I don't understand that acronym" in a room of twenty is demonstrating leadership, not doubt.
Backstage support is not support. If you apologize to her in the hallway after the meeting instead of speaking up in the meeting, you were part of it.
Look at your leadership page. If you are hiring good women and none of them are on it, the problem is not your pipeline, it is how you are evaluating leadership.
When someone assumes you are the safety girl, the win is not the comeback. It is leaving them aware enough to ask the next woman on site what she does instead of guessing.
Resources + Links
Barb's website: https://constructionbarb.com
Barb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/constructionbarb/
OneLadder to Leadership on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/ONE-LADDER-LEADERSHIP-everyone-ladder/dp/B0GT7MBTGS
Constructive Behaviors podcast (Barb's show): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/constructive-behaviors/id1685754635
Mentioned in the episode: the movie G.I. Jane (1997)
Architecture as a Society-Making Tool, Told From a War Zone
2026/09/16
Architecture is usually discussed as a service. A client has a need, a firm delivers a building, everyone moves on to the next project. Dr. Marwa Al-Sabouni makes a harder argument. She says the built environment is one of the strongest forces shaping whether people in a place trust each other, and that the consequences of getting it wrong can take generations to show up.
She would know. Marwa is an architect based in Homs, Syria, who stayed through the war and wrote about what she was watching in real time. In this episode she and Bryce talk about how decades of zoning and redevelopment separated communities that had lived together, what she believes reconstruction actually requires, why identity and beauty are structural concerns rather than decorative ones, and what it means to keep practicing architecture in a place where the profession's stakes are impossible to ignore.
This one is for architects, engineers, and firm leaders who want a bigger frame on what their work does after the ribbon is cut. It's also for anyone in AEC who has started to wonder whether the profession they trained for still means what they thought it meant.
About Dr. Marwa Al-Sabouni Dr. Marwa Al-Sabouni is an architect, urban thinker, author, and international speaker based in Syria. She holds a PhD in architectural design and Islamic architecture, and her work brings together sociology, contextual and psychological analysis, and aesthetics to make the case for architecture as a society-making tool. She is the author of The Battle for Home (2016), Building for Hope (2020), and Mosque (2026), published internationally by Thames & Hudson, and a chapter-author in the Getty publication Cultural Heritage and Mass Atrocities (2022).
Her writing has appeared in RIBA Journal, Architectural Review, Standpoint Magazine, the Victoria & Albert Museum, the ICRC Journal, Renovatio, Middle East Eye, and others. She received the Prince Claus Award in 2018, was named to the BBC 100 Women list in 2019, and won the World Monuments Fund Watch Award in 2023. The Battle for Home was named one of the Guardian's best architecture books of 2016, Prospect Magazine named her one of the top 50 thinkers in the world, and Architectural Digest listed her among the top contenders for the 2018 Pritzker Prize. Her TED talk has been viewed over a million times.
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marwaalsabouni/?hl=en
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marwa-al-sabouni-44a07b21/
What We Cover Introduction and Marwa's background as an architect in Homs
How the built environment shapes trust between neighbors
What happened to Homs before the war, and what the design decisions had to do with it
Writing The Battle for Home from inside the conflict
Why identity, beauty, and belonging are structural concerns and not decorative ones
What real reconstruction requires, and how most rebuilding efforts get it wrong
Mosque (2026) and what a single building type reveals about a whole society
Practicing architecture when the stakes are impossible to ignore
Advice for architects and engineers who want their work to matter more
Where to find Marwa and closing thoughts
Key Takeaways The built environment is not a neutral backdrop to social life. Zoning, density, and material choices change how likely people are to know and trust the people around them.
Beauty and identity are not budget line items to cut first. They are part of what makes people willing to stay somewhere and take care of it.
Reconstruction that ignores what a place meant to the people who lived there rebuilds the buildings and loses the community.
Architects have more influence over social outcomes than the typical scope of work suggests, and that influence operates whether or not anyone claims it.
A career in this industry gets more durable, not less, when you can name what your work is actually for.
Burned Out and Anxious? What Your Food Has to Do with It and all the Food Recalls
2026/09/09
You've optimized your schedule, pushed through the late nights, and kept delivering — but you still feel like you're running on empty. What if the missing link isn't mindset or time management... it's nutrition?
Valerie Hawkins is a nutritionist and self-concept coach who left engineering to help women tackle anxiety, burnout, and brain fog through the power of what they eat. In this episode, she shares the science behind the nutrition-mental health connection and her Self-Concept Method for making lasting, practical changes.
You'll learn:
How your diet is directly affecting your anxiety, mood, and energy — especially under pressure The link between nutrition and conditions like ADHD, migraines, and burnout What easy and effective nutrition changes actually look like for busy professional women How addressing root causes leads to sustainable weight loss AND better mental health Connect with Valerie: valerieHawkinsnutrition.com | LinkedIn: Valerie Hawkins
Super-Architect: Craft, AI, and the Future of the Profession
2026/09/02
Architects have been losing ground for years, and the industry keeps explaining it away with fee pressure, schedule pressure, and software. Beau [Last Name] has a less comfortable answer. He says the profession's own craft has declined, and that decline is exactly why architects keep getting moved further from the decisions that matter.
His case runs like this. When drawings are incomplete and coordination is loose, somebody has to fill that gap, and lately that somebody is the builder. The builder absorbs the risk, then reasonably takes the authority that comes with it. Beau and Bryce get into what caused that slide, why architectural education has to become craft centric to reverse it, how AI either accelerates the decline or becomes the thing that reverses it depending entirely on how firms use it, and what he means by the "Super-Architect" and the three characteristics that define one. They also talk about the fracture inside the profession itself and why a national focus on craft may be the only thing that closes it.
This one is for principals and firm leaders watching their scope shrink, for emerging professionals who were never actually taught to draw a building, and for anyone in AEC who wants the architect back at the table where the real decisions get made.
About Beau Beau Dromiack is Principal of [Firm Name], a practice focused on mission critical architecture delivered with quality, efficiency, and craft. He has integrated design expertise across Design-Bid-Build, CMaR, Design-Build, and Integrated Design delivery, and is a member of AIA, DBIA, SCUP, and NCARB. He holds a Master of Architecture from Arizona State University, serves on the ASU faculty teaching graduate architecture, and mentors emerging professionals. He also volunteers teaching design to design-build teams at Northern Arizona University's School of Construction and teaches STEM based architecture and engineering principles to elementary students, including teaching tools he developed himself.
He is the author of The Craft Advantage: Reviving Craft in Architecture to Build a Better Environment and Improve Influence and Super-Architect: The Future of Architecture, which is also available as an audiobook on Audible, Apple, and Amazon in five countries. Beau has been married 34 years, has four adult kids, and spends his free time backpacking, raising chickens in pursuit of the perfect egg, and baking in pursuit of the perfect cookie.
What We Cover Introduction and Beau's background as a principal, professor, and author
What craft actually means in architecture, and what it does not mean
How the decline in craft eroded professional respect
The craft gap, and why builders are filling it
How poor documentation shifts risk to the contractor and authority away from the architect
Why architectural education needs to be craft centric
The three characteristics of the "Super-Architect"
Using AI proactively to build AI optimized practices and new business models
Why a fractured profession is a fragile one
What a national focus on craft could actually reunify
Where to find Beau and his books, plus closing thoughts
Key Takeaways Influence follows responsibility. Every gap in a drawing set that a builder has to close is a piece of authority the architect gave away, whether or not anyone named it that way.
Craft is not perfectionism and it is not slowness. Beau's case is that higher craft is what makes speed and integration possible instead of dangerous.
Craft cannot be recruited. It gets built through mentorship, documentation standards, and leaders who actually teach, which makes it a firm systems problem rather than a hiring problem.
AI will either widen the craft gap or close it, and the deciding factor is whether a firm defines its use proactively or lets AI define the firm.
A profession that can't agree on what it is worth is easy to move off the table. Shared standards are a growth strategy, not nostalgia.
Resources + Links Beau's website: https://dromiackinvention.com/about
Beau Dromiack on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beau-dromiack-aia-dbia-ncarb-scup-310747124/
The Craft Advantage: Reviving Craft in Architecture to Build a Better Environment and Improve Influence
Super-Architect: The Future of Architecture (also on Audible, Apple, and Amazon as an audiobook)
Career Collective: https://www.mycareercollective.com
Bryce Batts Consulting: www.brycebatts.co
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Stop Playing Small: How a Clear Vision Unlocks Your Career and Life
2026/08/26
If you've ever felt stuck, scared to take the next step, or unsure of where you're headed — this episode is for you. Career and vision coach Carey Conley has spent 21+ years helping entrepreneurs and AEC professionals ditch fear-driven thinking and build a life with intention and purpose.
In this conversation, Carey breaks down why so many high-achieving women in technical fields stay trapped in survival mode — and exactly how a bold, defined vision becomes the catalyst for everything else.
In this episode:
Why high achievers are often the most vision-deficient (and what to do about it) How to write a vision that actually changes your behavior and decisions The fear of success vs. fear of failure — and how to stop letting either one run your life Practical steps to align your goals with a purpose-driven vision Connect with Carey at careyconley.com | Instagram & Facebook: @Carey.Conley3 | LinkedIn: CareyConleyINC
Designing Care, Not Just Buildings: Healthcare Design and AI
2026/08/19
Great healthcare design is invisible. You feel calmer, you find your way, your family has a place to rest, and you never notice the hundred decisions that made it happen. Kristin Green, a healthcare architect at Earl Swensson Associates (ESa) in Nashville, builds her whole practice around that idea. In this episode, she walks through what it actually takes to design hospitals that balance operational efficiency with genuine, patient-centered care.
We get into the human details and the hard tradeoffs. Why she starts every project by leaving her ego at the door. How ESa levels the room so the nurse's voice carries as much weight as the CEO's. What she'd change about sterile, all-white healthcare spaces. And how AI has earned a real place in her workflow, from generating exterior concepts to building a data-backed space program in hours instead of weeks.
This one is for architects, healthcare and AEC leaders, and anyone curious about where design and technology are heading. It's a thoughtful look at building spaces that serve people first and still hold up for the next 30 years.
About Kristin Green
Kristin Green is a healthcare architect at Earl Swensson Associates (ESa) in Nashville. Known for her collaborative approach, she works closely with design teams, clients, end users, and consultants to guide projects from concept to completion while preserving the integrity of the design vision. A University of Cincinnati graduate, she is skilled in 3D software and driven by the belief that great design should be functional yet beautiful, inspiring, and timeless. Her process starts with intentional listening, so that the spaces she creates reflect the people and stories behind them.
What We Cover
Introduction and Kristin's path from Cincinnati's co-op program to healthcare design
Why ESa's single-office culture in Nashville shapes how the work gets done
Intentional listening and the visioning session that starts every project
Leveling the room so end users, not just leadership, shape the design
Balancing emotional patient experience with operational efficiency
The small details that change everything, from daylight to washers and dryers on the floor
Emerging trends: hospital robots, pneumatic systems, and AI-enabled patient monitoring
How ESa thoughtfully integrates AI, from concept generation to data-backed programming
Preserving design vision across years, consultants, and team turnover
The Arthur M. Blank Hospital and designing for timelessness over trends
Where to find Kristin and closing thoughts
Key Takeaways
Listening beats telling. The best healthcare projects start with a visioning session where the design team leaves its ego at the door and hears what actually matters to the people who will use the space.
Warmth is a design decision. A facility can be cutting edge and still feel human, through daylight, color, and details that fight the sterile, institutional default.
AI is a curator's tool, not a replacement. Kristin uses it to generate thousands of concepts and to build data-backed space programs, then applies human judgment to what's real, buildable, and right for the client.
The first design is rarely the final one. Collaboration and early contractor pricing often produce a better, more cost-effective result without losing the intended look.
Design for decades. Timeless choices matter most in buildings that may not change for 20 or 30 years.
Resources + Links
ESa website: https://esarch.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-plummer/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/earl-swensson-associates/ Career Collective: https://www.mycareercollective.com
Systems Are Freedom: Fixing the Overworked Contractor
2026/08/12
Growth is supposed to feel like winning. For a lot of contractors, it feels like drowning. Derek Isaac, founder of Rapid Result Creators, spent more than 20 years in construction and real estate before turning that experience into a systems coaching practice for general contractors and home builders. In this episode, he breaks down why a growing business quietly becomes harder to run, and what to do about it.
We get into the real mechanics. How to spot the frog-in-boiling-water moment before something breaks. Why owners revert to the tools or start micromanaging instead of leading. How to make new systems actually stick when enthusiasm gets diluted at every level below you. And the difference between growth that builds a business and growth that breaks it.
This one is for GCs, home builders, and any AEC owner who feels like the business runs through them. It's a straight, practical conversation about structure, margins, boundaries, and building a company that doesn't need you in the room to function.
About Derek Isaac
Derek Isaac is a business systems coach who works with general contractors and home builders to bring structure and control to growing businesses. With more than 20 years in construction contracting and real estate investing, he understands how quickly growth creates complexity, reduces visibility, and increases reliance on the owner. Through coaching, training programs, and live education, Derek helps builders strengthen operations, improve margins, and run businesses that are easier to manage as they scale. He's the founder of Rapid Result Creators.
What We Cover
Introduction and Derek's path from contractor to business systems coach
Why technically great builders struggle the moment they become business owners
The frog-in-boiling-water problem and the early warning signs owners miss
Leadership catching up to growth, and why reverting to the tools is a trap
Making systems stick: buy-in, enthusiasm, and the implementation period
Finding the bottleneck when the bottleneck is the owner, using the org chart
Healthy growth versus growth that breaks the business, and why margin beats revenue
Setting client boundaries with a clear "what to expect" approach
Hiring as a system problem first, the Ideal Employee Profile, and why good people stay with good businesses
The one thing every contractor should fix: their numbers
Where to find Derek and closing thoughts
Key Takeaways
Systems are the foundation that lets your people do their jobs well. They are not bureaucracy, they are what makes a business feel professional and easier to run.
When the bottleneck is you, fill the org chart from the bottom up. Document and delegate the lowest rungs first, then build management layers as your finances allow.
Margin beats revenue. A 2 million dollar business at a healthy margin has more room and more resilience than a 5 million dollar business running on 5 percent.
Boundaries protect the business, not just the owner. A clear "what to expect" conversation earns respect and still earns the referrals and the reviews.
Hire like it's a six or seven figure decision. Build the Ideal Employee Profile, go find passive candidates, and keep a database of everyone who ever applied.
Resources + Links
Rapid Result Creators: https://rapidresultcreators.com
Derek on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-isaac
Career Collective: https://www.mycareercollective.com
Gamble on Yourself: Building a Construction Firm and Getting your First Client
2026/08/05
Lauren Weinbaum didn't leave a job she hated. She left one she loved, because a client offered to hire her company before she'd even started one. In this episode, the founder and president of Weinbaum Management Group walks through how a one-way flight to LAX and a single conversation turned into a 13-year run in aviation and large commercial construction.
We get into the decisions most founders don't talk about. How Lauren watched the 2008 crash freeze high-rises mid-skyline and used it to redesign her career around bond-funded public work. Why she grows slowly and refuses debt. How she thinks about A, B, and C players on a small team. And the mindset shift that comes with trading "am I going to make it" for "do we have the right culture and the right clients."
This one is for AEC firm leaders, women building careers in construction, and anyone weighing the jump from a stable seat to running their own thing. It's honest about the mental load, the guilt, and what it actually takes to keep a firm healthy.
About Lauren Weinbaum
Lauren is the founder and president of Weinbaum Management Group (WMG, Inc.), an owner's representation and construction management firm specializing in aviation and large commercial projects. She leads all business development, program and project management, estimating, scheduling, and bidding for the firm. With more than 18 years in the industry, Lauren built her foundation on major capital programs including the Tom Bradley International Terminal at LAX. She grew up on a working pig and cattle farm in Illinois and started working for her dad at nine.
What We Cover
Introduction and Lauren's path from a Midwest farm to aviation construction
Watching the 2008 crash halt private projects, and pivoting to bond-funded work for stability
The one-way flight to LAX and the client conversation that started WMG
Leading under pressure on a billion-dollar airport program with competing interests
Being a working mom as a productivity edge, and guarding against distraction and mental load
Building a small team: A, B, and C players, and why "10 percent of the work" still matters
Growing without debt, managing cash flow strictly, and learning to say no to the wrong work
Why the right life partner is a business decision
What's next for WMG: LAWA with Paslay Management Group, the Centurion Lounge at LAX, and expansion beyond California
Where to find Lauren and closing thoughts
Key Takeaways
Stability is a strategy you can design. Lauren deliberately moved toward bond-funded public projects because that money rarely defaults, and it insulated her from the private-market swings that wiped out her peers in 2008.
Gamble on yourself. If you're going to take a risk, take it on your own effort and judgment rather than betting on someone else's company or timing.
Grow at the speed of your cash, not your ambition. Waiting until you can cover a new hire before you make it is slower, but it keeps you out of debt and off the payroll cliff.
Saying no protects your brand. Taking work you don't have the competent staff to execute costs more than the revenue is worth.
Never be too good to call people back. In a distracted industry, basic follow-through is a competitive advantage.
Resources + Links
WMG website: https://wmgconsult.com
Lauren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauren-weinbaum-wmg/
WMG on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wmgconsult/
Stop Trading Hours for Dollars: How to Scale Your AEC Business for Real Profitability
2026/07/29
Growth sounds good — until it's actually crushing you. More projects, more staff, more stress, and somehow less profit. Award-winning contractor and business scaling expert Shena Marie White has seen it happen to too many firms, and she's made it her mission to change the pattern.
In this episode, Shena breaks down the strategic mindset, operational systems, and wealth-building habits that separate businesses that scale sustainably from ones that grow themselves into the ground.
Key takeaways:
What scaling actually means for contractors — and what it doesn't The most common profitability mistakes and how to fix them now How to build systems that free up your time and increase efficiency The wealth-building mindset shift that successful contractors share Your Pocket CFO — yourpocketcfo.com
Designing a Space for How Your Brain Actually Works: Autonomy, Fit, and Neurodivergence
2026/07/22
Rima Nasser founded TEW Design Studio in 2015 because she wanted to design at the level of care she actually believed in, not the level a typical firm structure allowed. That drive for autonomy eventually led her to launch her own furniture collection, TEWlines, in 2024. In this episode, she talks with Bryce about what real ownership over your work looks like, and why "being your own boss" was never really the point.
We also get into something Rima has been thinking about a lot lately: her own ADHD and likely dyslexia diagnosis, and how understanding the way her brain processes space, sensory input, and creative flow changed everything about how she designs and how she leads her studio. She's now pursuing a science in design certification to back up what years of lived experience already taught her. We talk about choosing the right clients, protecting your standards, and what it means to finally understand why you've always worked the way you work.
This one is for designers and creatives thinking about going independent, anyone navigating a late-in-career neurodivergent diagnosis, and leaders rethinking how they build teams and choose collaborators.
About Rima Nasser:
Rima Nasser is the founder and principal designer of TEW Design Studio, a full-service residential and boutique commercial interior design firm based in Raleigh, NC. Since founding TEW in 2015, she's built her practice around designing spaces that fit the people who live in them. Her own neurodivergent diagnosis (ADHD and likely dyslexia) reshaped how she works, leads, and listens to clients, and she's currently pursuing a science in design certification. She holds a master's degree in interior design, has received multiple industry awards, and her work has been published in Kitchen & Bath Business and other trade outlets. In 2024 she launched TEWlines, a curated furniture collection extending TEW's design philosophy beyond individual projects. Originally from Palestine, Rima has been rooted in Raleigh for 15 years.
What We Cover:
Introduction and Rima's path to founding TEW Design Studio in 2015
What autonomy actually meant to her beyond "being the boss"
The decision to launch TEWlines and what it represents
How Rima chooses clients, and why fit goes both ways
The hard lessons it took to protect her standards
Her ADHD and likely dyslexia diagnosis, and how it reshaped her work
How understanding her brain changed the questions she asks about every space
Pursuing a science in design certification
Where to find Rima and closing thoughts
Key Takeaways:
Real autonomy isn't just ownership of a business, it's ownership of your creative voice, your relationships, and your standards
Choosing the right client relationship is a skill, and protecting that standard takes time and real boundaries
A neurodivergent diagnosis later in life can reframe years of how you work, not as something to fix but as information
Understanding how your own brain processes space and sensory input can directly shape better design decisions for clients
Lived experience and formal research aren't in competition. Rima is pursuing both
Resources + Links:
TEW Design Studio: https://tewdesignstudio.com/
TEWlines: https://tewdesignstudio.com/introducing-tewlines/
Rima Nasser LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/rimanasser/
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Great host and guests!
Bryce is a great host who asks thoughtful questions in the moment and attracts great guests.
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Super engaging
I absolutely love Wine After Work. She has such engaging, canid conversations. Love hearing about other female entrepreneurs and their journey
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A ton of value!
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Inspirational
I love how Bryce brings on guests who speak about their professional journeys focused on courage and taking a leap of faith by listening to their inne...
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Listen & learn
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A fun and easy way to keep learning! Love all the info. I catch myself smiling while listening like I’m actually having wine with girlfriends! Thanks!...
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Love it!!
Love the podcast Bryce! Very motivating!
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