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What will it take to decarbonise an industry responsible for moving more than 80% of global trade? In this episode of Exploring Clean Energy, host Andy Marsland is joined by Jenny Ruffell-Smith, Australian Representative of the Global Maritime Forum, to explore one of the energy transition's biggest challenges: reducing emissions from global shipping. Responsible for approximately 3% of global greenhouse gas emissions, the maritime industry plays a critical role in international trade. But with alternative fuels currently costing two to four times more than conventional marine fuels, the pathway to net zero is far from straightforward. From ammonia and methanol to battery-powered vessels, wind-assisted propulsion and operational efficiencies, the industry is exploring multiple solutions to reduce emissions while keeping global trade moving. Jenny takes Andy inside the technologies, economics and policies shaping maritime decarbonisation, from the challenge of making alternative fuels commercially viable and the importance of international regulation, through to Australia's opportunity to become a producer and exporter of cleaner marine fuels. The conversation also explores the Australia–East Asia iron ore green shipping corridor, the role of major industry players including Fortescue, and why collaboration between governments, shipowners, fuel producers and cargo owners will be essential to accelerating the transition. With momentum building globally, the question is no longer whether shipping will decarbonise, but how quickly the industry can turn ambition into action.   Meet the Guest Jenny Ruffell-Smith: Australian Representative, Global Maritime Forum Jenny Ruffell-Smith is the Australian Representative for the Global Maritime Forum, an independent, not-for-profit organisation working to accelerate the transition to a sustainable maritime industry. Based in Brisbane, Jenny works across government, industry and the energy sector to advance maritime decarbonisation initiatives, including co-leading the Australia–East Asia iron ore green shipping corridor taskforce. Her career spans freight forwarding, ship agency, shipping lines and international logistics, with experience working across Europe, Australia and the Pacific. A secondment to the Maersk Mc-Kinney Møller Center for Zero Carbon Shipping in Denmark sparked her passion for maritime decarbonisation, combining her practical shipping experience with an interest in the global energy transition. Today, Jenny brings a commercial and collaborative perspective to the challenges of decarbonising global trade, helping connect the organisations, technologies and policy initiatives needed to support a more sustainable maritime industry.   Minutes 0:00: Jenny's journey into maritime decarbonisation and the Global Maritime Forum 3:05: Why shipping's emissions matter and how the world is responding 6:16: Australia's position and the cost barriers to cleaner shipping 7:13: Cutting emissions through efficiency, wind-assisted propulsion and smarter operations 10:02: Where battery-powered and electric vessels fit into the future 11:08: The future fuels debate: ammonia, methanol, hydrogen and LNG 16:05: Understanding the green premium and who pays for cleaner shipping 17:37: The IMO Net Zero Framework and the role of global regulation 20:21: Australia's opportunity to produce, export and supply future marine fuels 21:56: Australia's Maritime Emissions Reduction National Action Plan and the iron ore green shipping corridor 27:36: What to watch over the next 24 months and beyond 33:32: Why maritime decarbonisation needs action now   Key Takeaways Decarbonising shipping is a global challenge with significant economic implications. Moving more than 80% of global trade, the maritime industry is essential to the world economy. Reducing its emissions will require solutions that are commercially viable, scalable and supported by international cooperation. There is no single fuel that will power the future of shipping. Ammonia, methanol, hydrogen, batteries and transitional fuels all have potential roles to play. The right solution will depend on vessel type, trade routes, infrastructure, fuel availability and safety considerations. Reducing emissions doesn't have to wait for alternative fuels. Operational improvements, including route optimisation, vessel speed, hull design and wind-assisted propulsion, can deliver meaningful emissions reductions using technologies already available today. The cost of cleaner fuels remains one of the industry's biggest barriers. With alternative fuels currently costing two to four times more than conventional options, scaling production, creating demand and establishing supportive regulation will be critical to making the transition commercially viable. Australia has an opportunity to become a major player in cleaner maritime fuels. With abundant renewable energy resources, established export relationships and significant shipping trade routes, Australia is well positioned to develop alternative fuel production, strengthen energy security and support international bunkering markets. Green shipping corridors are helping turn ambition into action. The Australia–East Asia iron ore green shipping corridor demonstrates how collaboration between fuel producers, ports, shipowners and major exporters can accelerate the development of infrastructure and demand needed to support lower-emission shipping. Global regulation and industry collaboration will be essential. While individual companies and countries are making progress, consistent international policy will be important to creating investment certainty, supporting a fair transition and avoiding fragmented approaches to maritime emissions reduction. Perhaps most importantly, the episode highlights that maritime decarbonisation is no longer simply a future ambition. Technologies are being deployed, major industry players are investing and international partnerships are progressing. The challenge now is bringing more of the industry on board and turning momentum into meaningful emissions reductions.   About Exploring Clean Energy Hosted by Andy Marsland and sponsored by Stellar Recruitment, Exploring Clean Energy brings listeners into the heart of the energy transition, exploring where innovation, technology and sustainability converge. Through conversations with technical experts, project leaders and industry changemakers, the podcast examines the technologies, opportunities and challenges shaping Australia's energy future and the global transition to cleaner energy.   Links Learn more about the Global Maritime Forum: www.globalmaritimeforum.org Connect with Jenny Ruffell-Smith: LinkedIn Follow the Global Maritime Forum: LinkedIn Explore the Global Maritime Forum's Annual Progress Report on Green Sh...

What if producing green hydrogen didn’t require an electrolyser and the associated infrastructure? In this episode of Exploring Clean Energy, host Andy Marsland is joined by Alana Barlow, CEO of Sparc Hydrogen, and Professor Greg Metha, Lead Researcher, to explore a different pathway for renewable hydrogen production: “photocatalysts” (PCs) and  “photoelectrochemicals” (PECs) for water splitting. As the hydrogen sector works to overcome the cost and infrastructure challenges associated with conventional green hydrogen, Sparc Hydrogen is developing technology that uses sunlight to split water directly into hydrogen and oxygen. Often described as “artificial photosynthesis”, the process has the potential to simplify hydrogen production by removing the need to first generate electricity and then feed that electricity into an electrolyser. Alana and Greg take Andy inside the science, economics and commercialisation pathway behind the technology - from the challenge of electricity costs and the importance of solar-to-hydrogen efficiency, through to Sparc Hydrogen’s pilot plant in South Australia and its ambitions for commercial-scale deployment. Meet the Guests Alana Barlow - CEO, Sparc Hydrogen Alana is CEO of Sparc Hydrogen, a production technology company developing low-cost photocatalytic water splitting technology. Her career spans government, project development, asset management and commercial law, with the past six years focused on alternative energy including hydrogen and its derivatives, biogases and bio-liquids. Previously working with Sumitomo Corporation across hydrogen, resources and energy, Alana led the final investment decision on the A$111 million Sumitomo Gladstone Green Hydrogen Project, developed in partnership with Rio Tinto. Today, her focus is on enabling and emerging technologies capable of reducing the levelised cost of hydrogen and supporting the industry's next stage of development. Professor Greg Metha - Lead Researcher, Sparc Hydrogen Greg is a Professor of Chemistry and Co-Director of the Centre for Energy Technology at Adelaide University. He established and convenes the international Hydrogen Production Technology (HyPT) series of forums and is involved in a range of international hydrogen research initiatives, including the NSF-CSIRO Global Center for Hydrogen Production, the IEA Hydrogen Technology Collaboration Programme and Mission Innovation's Sunlight-to-X Innovation Platform. Greg heads the Metal Cluster Laboratory, where his research explores the physical and chemical properties of sub-nanometre metallic particles, novel catalysts and advanced photocatalytic reactors operating under concentrated solar radiation. This research contributed to the establishment of Sparc Hydrogen, where Greg continues as Lead Researcher. Minutes 0:42 - The problem facing green hydrogen today 4:07 - How photocatalytic hydrogen production works 5:59 - Why 10% solar-to-hydrogen efficiency matters 11:31 - Sparc Hydrogen's partnership with SunHydrogen 12:15 - Inside the SHARP pilot plant 18:05 - Simpler infrastructure and remote hydrogen production 22:41 - The partners helping commercialise the technology 24:08 - From pilot plant to commercial deployment 26:31 - Where could photocatalytic hydrogen be used? 32:42 - The biggest opportunities to bring costs down 33:54 - Rapid fire: hydrogen misconceptions and Australia's energy challenge Key Takeaways Green hydrogen's challenge isn't simply producing renewable electricity - it's accessing enough low-cost renewable electricity to make hydrogen economically viable at scale. Photocatalytic water splitting offers a fundamentally different approach by using sunlight to produce hydrogen directly, potentially removing several pieces of electrical infrastructure required by conventional electrolysis. For Sparc Hydrogen, solar-to-hydrogen efficiency is critical. Reaching and ultimately exceeding the key efficiency range could significantly change the economics of the technology. But laboratory efficiency alone won't determine commercial success. Long-term durability, low-cost infrastructure, manufacturability and successful progression from pilot to commercial demonstration will all be important. Perhaps most importantly, the episode highlights the continuing evolution of hydrogen technology. Electrolysis is not the only pathway being explored - and technologies emerging from research today could play a role in changing how renewable hydrogen is produced tomorrow. About Exploring Clean Energy Hosted by Andy Marsland and sponsored by Stellar Recruitment, Exploring Clean Energy brings listeners into the heart of the energy transition, exploring where innovation, technology and sustainability converge. Through conversations with technical experts, project leaders and industry changemakers, the podcast examines the technologies, opportunities and challenges shaping Australia's energy future and the global transition to cleaner energy. Links Learn more about Sparc Hydrogen: www.sparchydrogen.com Connect with Alana Barlow: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alana-barlow-a2252649/ Connect with Professor Greg Metha: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-metha-58954857/

Alex Tancock, CEO of InterContinental Energy, joins Andy Marsland to discuss why green hydrogen is entering its next phase beyond the hype. Alex shares how InterContinental Energy has spent more than a decade developing some of the world's largest renewable energy hubs, explains the patented P2(H2)Node™ technology that could significantly reduce the cost of green hydrogen production, and explores how hydrogen, green iron, AI data centres and energy security are converging to reshape Australia's industrial future. The conversation covers giga-scale project development, Australia's competitive advantage, sovereign energy, and why optionality may be the key to building the next generation of energy infrastructure. Show Notes & Timestamps 0:00 - Welcome to Exploring Clean Energy Andy introduces the episode and welcomes Alex Tancock, CEO of InterContinental Energy. 0:22 - The vision behind InterContinental Energy Alex explains why the company was founded to develop the world's largest clean energy hubs and why Australia is uniquely positioned to lead. 3:21 - Why scale matters Lessons from the resource sector, the importance of mega-projects, and how the modular P2(H2)Node™ approach makes giga-scale development possible. 6:03 - Hydrogen beyond the hype Why today's market consolidation is a natural evolution, and what separates the projects that will succeed from those that won't. 9:00 - Green iron and Australia's opportunity How the Pilbara could become a global green iron hub powered by renewable hydrogen. 11:07 - Inside the Australian Renewable Energy Hub (AREH) Alex shares the progress, approvals and long-term vision for one of the world's largest renewable energy projects. 14:07 - The P2(H2)Node™ explained How InterContinental Energy's patented technology reduces costs, improves efficiency and could become the blueprint for future hydrogen projects. 19:20 - Western Green Energy Hub (WGEH) Why WGEH is being built as a series of modular energy hubs and what it means for Australia's manufacturing future. 22:00 - International demand and AI-powered growth The role of Japan, Korea, AI data centres and energy security in accelerating Australia's clean energy exports. 32:17 - Looking ahead to 2035 Alex outlines the roadmap for AREH and WGEH, the biggest challenges ahead, and his vision for Australia's clean energy future. 34:12 - Rapid-fire questions Hydrogen myths, China's leadership, future energy skills, and why the P2(H2)Node™ may be the industry's most underrated clean energy innovation. 37:07 - Closing reflections Alex shares his final thoughts on Australia's opportunity to become a global clean energy powerhouse. Guest Bio Alexander Tancock Alex Tancock is the Chief Executive Officer of InterContinental Energy, a global leader in giga-scale green hydrogen and renewable energy development. He has been involved in renewable energy for nearly three decades and has spent more than ten years helping position InterContinental Energy at the forefront of large-scale green hydrogen innovation. Under his leadership, the company has developed two of the world's largest renewable energy projects - the Australian Renewable Energy Hub (AREH) and the Western Green Energy Hub (WGEH) - while pioneering its patented P2(H2)Node™ systems architecture, designed to significantly improve the economics of giga-scale hydrogen production. Alex is passionate about Australia's opportunity to become a global clean energy powerhouse through green hydrogen, green iron and renewable energy exports, while creating long-term sovereign energy security and industrial growth. Links InterContinental Energy https://intercontinentalenergy.com Alexander Tancock on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexander-tancock-2aa31a24/ InterContinental Energy on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercontinental-energy/

In this episode of Exploring Clean Energy, Andy sits down with Neil Gardner, Executive Manager at Jet Zero Australia, to explore one of the most practical pathways to decarbonising aviation: Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF). Neil breaks down what SAF is, why it’s considered the near-to-medium term solution for long-haul flight, and how policy, mandates, and corporate demand are shaping a fast-scaling global market. The conversation also goes behind the scenes at Jet Zero - covering the Ulysses and Mandala projects, community engagement in regional Queensland, and why “bringing the regions to the runway” is more than a motto - it’s a blueprint for Australia’s clean fuel future. Show Notes & Timestamps0:00 - Welcome to Exploring Clean EnergyAndy introduces the show and today’s focus: clean energy solutions accelerating a sustainable future. 0:16 - Introducing Today’s Guest: Neil Gardner (Jet Zero Australia)Neil’s background and role leading Jet Zero’s growth and SAF project development. 0:32 - What is SAF (Sustainable Aviation Fuel)?Neil explains SAF as a non-fossil jet fuel and the lifecycle emissions reduction potential (around 60% to 85%+). 1:42 - “Drop-in fuel”: why SAF matters right nowHow SAF works with existing aircraft and fuel infrastructure - no new planes required. 3:11 - SAF vs batteries vs hydrogen for aviationWhy batteries are currently too heavy for long-haul; hydrogen storage and infrastructure constraints; why SAF is viewed as the near/medium-term solution. 6:10 - SAF production pathways and “technology agnostic” deliveryNeil explains multiple ASTM-approved pathways and why Jet Zero focuses on high “TRL” (readiness) technologies. 7:40 - Alcohol-to-Jet and HEFA pathways explainedHEFA: currently the main global SAF pathway (using used cooking oil/tallow/oilseeds)Alcohol-to-Jet: emerging as a key scalable pathway (ethanol → SAF) 9:15 - LanzaJet and the Ulysses projectLanzaJet’s commercialisation of Alcohol-to-Jet and Jet Zero’s relationship + licensing approach. 10:40 - Feedstocks: ethanol, sugarcane, corn waste, and future optionsHow different feedstocks support different SAF pathways—and why diversity matters. 12:20 - “There isn’t enough feedstock”: addressing the common critiqueNeil’s take on market saturation risks for used cooking oil/tallow and the need for new feedstocks. 14:40 - Certification, transparency, and avoiding unintended consequencesWhy traceability, certification, and supply chain governance are essential for integrity and emissions claims. 16:30 - Book-and-claim + blockchain traceability (in practice)How corporates can track SAF impact across the supply chain and confidently report emissions reductions. 18:50 - Global mandates driving demand (EU, UK, Japan)How blend mandates create demand certainty and unlock investment for capital-intensive SAF projects. 21:10 - Australia’s policy gap and the opportunity aheadWhy Australia is behind on mandates, what consultation is underway, and the “second-mover advantage”. 23:10 - Corporate-led momentum: Qantas, the SAF Coalition, and the $200m fundHow corporate Scope 3 commitments are pulling SAF into the market before regulation arrives. 25:30 - Why this industry scales fast: growth outlook and demand by 2050Neil shares the growth trajectory and why this could be one of the fastest fuel transitions globally. 27:20 - What is Jet Zero and why it was createdJet Zero’s purpose, investor support (including Airbus, Qantas, Idemitsu), and focus on bankable, near-term delivery. 28:40 - Funding correction (Queensland Government grant)Neil corrects the Queensland Government grant figure mentioned in the episode. 29:35 - Project 1: Ulysses (Townsville) - Alcohol-to-Jet~200M litres of ethanol input~100M litres SAF output~11M litres renewable diesel outputTargeting FID in 2H 2026 and operations by end of 2028 32:20 - Project 2: Mandala (Gladstone) - HEFAFeedstocks include tallow, used cooking oil, and domestic canola, plus exploration of future native crops. 33:39 - Closing reflectionsSAF as the most practical near-term decarbonisation route for aviation and Australia’s chance to lead. Funding CorrectionCorrection: Queensland Government grant valueIn the episode, the Queensland Government grant was misstated as $660,000. The correct amount is $760,000.Official announcement:https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/100955 Guest Bio - Neil GardnerNeil Gardner is the Executive Manager at Jet Zero Australia and was one of the organisation’s first employees, playing a key role in its growth from start-up to an emerging industry leader in sustainable aviation fuels. Neil has 20 years’ experience in the energy industry, leading teams of up to 200 people, and brings deep commercial and strategic expertise across the energy transition. He has held senior roles with Shell across Australasia, spent seven years with Arrow Energy (Shell & CNPC CSG JV) as Commercial Manager and Senior Advisor to the CEO, and is ex-Verbrec (engineering services across APAC). Neil holds a Bachelor of Science from the University of Birmingham. LinksJet Zero website: https://jetzero.com.au/Neil Gardner on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neil-gardner-b223051/Jet Zero on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jet-zero/

In this episode of Exploring Clean Energy, Andy sits down with Corbin Luther, E-Mobility Solutions Specialist at Volvo Group Australia, to unpack one of the most challenging and exciting frontiers of decarbonisation: heavy vehicles. From electrical infrastructure and driver behaviour to hydrogen fuel cells and renewable diesel, Corbin provides a grounded, behind-the-scenes look at how Volvo is approaching the transition at scale. This conversation moves beyond theory into real-world fleet operations, exploring what is working, what is not, and what the next decade will really look like for Australia’s trucking industry.   Show Notes & Timestamps 0:00 - Welcome to Exploring Clean EnergyAndy sets the scene for today’s topic: the innovations reshaping freight, logistics, and heavy vehicles. 1:05 - Introducing Today’s Guest: Corbin Luther (Volvo Group Australia)Corbin outlines Volvo’s structure globally and in Australia, including the role of Volvo Trucks and Mack Trucks in local manufacturing. 3:45 - How Big is Volvo in the EV Trucking Space?Discussion of global volumes, Australian production, and the rapid rise to 117 electric trucks now on the road, with more than 50 delivered this year. 6:10 - What Makes E-Mobility Technically Challenging in Australia? Corbin breaks down: The constraints of aging electrical infrastructureLong distances vs short-haul suitabilityMarket misconceptions about what electric trucks are designed forFitting technology to specific applications11:40 - Driver Behaviour: The Make-or-Break Variable How telematics, regen braking, and driving style impact EV range, and why driver training is essential for fleets moving to electric. 16:30 - From Resistance to Enthusiasm: Changing Attitudes to EV Trucks Real-world stories of sceptical drivers who change their minds within minutes of getting behind the wheel. 19:30 - Charging Infrastructure: The Volvo ApproachVolvo’s advisory role, partnerships with charging companies, and why they stay out of owning physical charging hubs. 23:05 - Decarbonising Heavy Transport: Electric, Hydrogen and Renewable Diesel (HVO) A detailed breakdown of: Hydrogen fuel-cell trucks under development in EuropeHow HVO works and why it is a promising transition fuelEuropean advancements and realistic timelines for change30:50 - Fit for Purpose: Why There Is No One-Size-Fits-All SolutionHow Volvo assesses a customer’s fleet, routes, power costs and operational realities before recommending EV adoption. 37:20 - The Economics: Total Cost of Ownership and the Sweet Spot Why electricity price, kilometres travelled, and utilisation all determine whether an EV truck makes financial sense. 43:00 - Behaviour Change and Second-Mover AdvantageHow sustainability pressure from customers, supply chains, and even employees is influencing fleet decisions. 48:00 - Government Policy: What’s Helping and What’s NotCorbin discusses axle weight restrictions, the pace of ADR changes, and the role of ARENA-funded projects. 54:10 - Road Wear, Vehicle Design and the realigning misconceptionsFindings from Volvo and Austroads showing how tyre footprint and suspension design can reduce pavement impact. 58:40 - Operational Optimisation: The ‘Hidden’ Decarbonisation Tool Route planning, idle time, fleet telematics, and the small daily decisions that reduce fuel and emissions. 1:04:30 - Battery Performance, Temperature Impacts and Real-World Range ModellingHow Volvo forecasts range using topography, historic traffic data, temperature profiles and aerodynamics. 1:10:10 - Looking Ahead: What the Next Decade Will Bring Predictions on: Uptake of electric trucksHydrogen’s likely roleGrowth of HVOHow often EV trucks will be seen on Australian roads1:15:00 - Final Thoughts from Corbin Why the transition is gaining momentum, and why fit-for-purpose solutions will be critical.   Guest Bio - Corbin Luther Corbin Luther is the E-Mobility Solutions Specialist at Volvo Group Australia, where he works directly with fleets, operators, and Volvo’s dealer network to support the transition to electric trucks. With a background in transport operations and fleet management, Corbin combines technical insight with deep knowledge of real-world trucking applications, ensuring customers put the right truck on the right job and adopt EVs in a way that is operationally sound, commercially sensible, and driver-friendly.   Website: volvotrucks.com.auCorbin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corbin-luther-2598651b7/Volvo Group LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/volvo-group/

In this episode of Exploring Clean Energy, Andy is joined by Nathan Blundell, Chief Development Officer at Windlab. Together, they explore how one of Australia’s leading renewable energy developers is raising the bar for wind and hybrid projects nationwide. They discuss Windlab’s journey from CSIRO spin-out to a fully integrated developer, the realities of project timelines and approvals, best-practice community engagement, biodiversity net gain, grid connection challenges, and two major Queensland projects set to shape the next phase of Australia’s clean-energy transition. Episode topics & timestamps00:00 - Welcome: How Windlab began, its CSIRO origins, and the evolution of wind development in Australia02:05 - The integrated model: From mapping wind to delivering and operating full-scale renewable projects05:10 - Development lifecycle: Why five to ten years is realistic and how early community engagement reduces risk08:30 - Data and bankability: From LiDAR and met masts to ensuring project certainty11:10 - Community engagement: Listening before telling, regional focus, and building trust early16:05 - Common community concerns: Managing change, benefits, and consultation fatigue19:40 - Industry reputation: Why one poor project can tarnish the whole sector. Windlab’s focus on raising the bar.22:20 - Approvals and the EPBC process: Reform, complexity, and the need for certainty26:50 - Biodiversity net gain: Practical examples from Windlab’s Gawara Baya project in North Queensland30:00 - Site selection: Wind profile, demand centres, grid constraints, and coexistence with agriculture33:15 – Technology improvements and turbine scale: 6-8MW turbines, 150m hub heights, and the limits of logistics37:10 - Construction logistics: Workforce, site access, and the legacy benefits of upgraded infrastructure40:00 - Rising costs: Global pressures, local solutions, and the power of competitive procurement44:00 - Grid innovation: Turning connection risk into advantage with in-house grid engineering48:10 - Project pipeline: Gawara Baya and Bungaban projects —Queensland’s next major renewable builds52:00 - Policy reform: Implementing EPBC changes and “finding a way to do the good things that we must do”55:00 - The decade ahead: Delivery, scale, and getting match-fit for the 2030s57:30 - Follow Windlab: Staying informed via LinkedIn, project websites, and newsletters Guest bioNathan Blundell is the Chief Development Officer at Windlab, leading a $30 billion portfolio and 20 GW development pipeline across Australia. Since joining in 2021, Nathan has overseen some of the nation’s most significant renewable energy projects, including the North Queensland Super Hub, Bungaban Wind, which secured Australia’s largest renewable PPA and Gawara Baya, the first project in the country designed around a biodiversity net-gain strategy. With over 20 years in the global energy sector, Nathan brings deep industry insight and a strong commitment to doing renewables the right way - delivering projects that respect Country, support communities, and protect the planet. LinksWindlab: windlab.comNathan Blundell (LinkedIn): linkedin.com/in/nathan-blundell-b1601142Windlab (LinkedIn): linkedin.com/company/windlab

In this episode of Exploring Clean Energy, Andy is joined by Michael van Baarle, Executive Chairman & Co-founder of ABEL Energy. Together they unpack green methanol’s role in decarbonising heavy transport, covering the Bell Bay project, sustainable carbon sourcing, hydrogen, electrolyser choices, shipping demand and bunkering, project scale-up, and the policy and investment steps on the road to 2029/30. Episode topics & timestamps00:00 - Welcome: Why methanol belongs in the clean-fuels toolkit; episode overview.02:10 - Methanol 101: CH₃OH, its uses, and why being a liquid matters for storage, handling, and retrofits.06:05 - Shipping’s 3% problem: Clean combustion benefits, particularly near ports; the path from emissions control zones to green fuels.10:00 - Carbon sources at scale: Biomass today, atmospheric CO₂ tomorrow—and the sustainability guardrails.14:25 - Bell Bay “stack” of advantages: Green grid, plantation residues, deep-water berth, workforce, and power connection.18:40 - Project scale: Why ABEL Energy sized Bell Bay to ~360,000 tpa—and how scale drives cost down.23:15 - Global demand signals: New methanol-capable ships, bunkering hubs like Singapore, and meeting EU maritime rules.28:05 - Technology choices: Bankability of tech, electrolyser selection, gasification.33:20 - Water & utilities: Cooling vs. electrolysis demand; options for sourcing and treatment on site.36:10 - Townsville pathway: “Reverse battery” flexibility, partnering with renewables, and behind-the-meter models.41:00 - Policy & economics: Hydrogen production incentives, timelines to FID/operations, and why timing matters.46:00 - Road to 2029/30: Funding, FEED readiness, and de-risking first-of-a-kind at Australian scale.50:15 - What’s next: How listeners can follow ABEL Energy and help champion a new export industry. Guest bioMichael van Baarle is the Executive Chairman & Co-founder of ABEL Energy, an Australian industrial project developer focused on producing green methanol using green hydrogen and sustainable carbon sources. With nearly two decades across energy and infrastructure in Australia and the U.S., including methanol and DME, Michael co-founded ABEL Energy to catalyse a domestic green-methanol industry and position Australia as a regional supplier for clean shipping fuels and low-carbon chemicals. LinksABEL Energy: abelenergy.com.auMichael van Baarle (LinkedIn): linkedin.com/in/michael-van-baarle-21994022/ABEL Energy (LinkedIn): linkedin.com/company/abelenergy/

In this episode of Exploring Clean Energy, Andy is joined by Hannah Monaghan, Boeing’s Australia Lead for Sustainability Reporting & Governance. Together they unpack aviation’s decarbonisation pathway, discussing everything from Hydrogen, SAF, Electric flight, aircraft design and operational efficiencies. Hannah’s Highlights: 1:05 - Boeing in Australia & NZ: 98+ years, ~4,500 people, Melbourne composites, RAAF sustainment3:50 - Why decarbonise aviation: ~2% of emissions today, APAC demand set to grow6:15 - Boeing’s pillars: fleet renewal, advanced tech, operational efficiency, renewable energy, market measures9:40 - Aircraft lifecycles (30–40 yrs) and retrofits: winglets, 787 curved wings, 777X folding tips13:20 - Certification reality: safety testing - why it takes time15:30 - Ops efficiency wins: smarter arrivals, single-engine taxi, collaboration with airports & ATC18:10 – Carbon offsets to removals: CORSIA basics, first ocean-based removals MOU; green hydrogen by-product21:05 - SAF 101: drop-in fuel, HEFA pathway, feedstocks (UCO, ag residues, MSW)24:30 - Where SAF is today: blends to 50% certified across Boeing fleet; pathway to 100%27:10 - Supply, policy & refineries: keeping feedstock onshore; AU & NZ outlooks31:00 - Turnarounds & infrastructure: why SAF fits current refuelling ops; blending mandates33:40 - Electric & hydrogen: use-cases, grid “greenness”, long-haul constraints for Australia38:10 - Cascade 2.0: open modelling to test SAF, hydrogen, electric and grid scenarios41:20 - Materials & circularity: composites, cabin “one-percenters” (lightweight recycled carpets)44:30 - Barriers & opportunities: stackable incentives, global harmonisation, jobs & fuel security48:10 - Final take: now is the moment - coordination across industry, government and communities About Hannah Hannah Monaghan is the Australia Lead for Sustainability Reporting & Governance within Boeing’s Global Enterprise Sustainability team (since Jan 2024). She joined Boeing in 2022 in Government Affairs after roles advising Australia’s Federal Minister for the Environment and the NSW Minister for Family & Community Services. An organic chemist by training, Hannah holds a Bachelor of Medicinal Chemistry from UTS. Connect with Hannah - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-monaghan-392249133/ Links Boeing - https://www.boeing.com/Boeing on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/boeing/Boeing on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/boeing/Cascade (aviation decarbonisation modelling) - https://cascade.boeing.com/Australia Aviation Outlook (Cascade) - https://cascade.boeing.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Australia-Aviation-Outlook.pdfBoeing Hydrogen Factsheet - https://www.boeing.com/content/dam/boeing/boeingdotcom/principles/sustainability/assets/pdf/Hydrogen_Factsheet.pdfCSIRO–Boeing SAF Roadmap (2023) - https://www.boeing.com.au/news/2023/csiro-boeing-roadmap-charts-flight-path-to-sustainable-skiesSAF State of Play (2024 update) - https://www.boeing.com.au/content/dam/boeing/en-au/pdf/boeing-and-csiro-saf-state-of-play-report-2024.pdfWisk (autonomous electric air taxi) - https://wisk.aero/Produced by The Podcast Boss

Episode Overview In this episode, Andy Marsland sits down with Neil McDonald, CEO of Gold Hydrogen, to unpack an exciting investment announcement and explore the future of natural hydrogen and helium in Australia. From historical discoveries that have led to cutting-edge drilling programs, this conversation dives deep into the potential of hydrogen as a clean, cost-effective energy source, and how helium (including the rare helium-3) could revolutionise industries from quantum computing to power generation and transportation. Neil McDonald is co-founder and Managing Director of Gold Hydrogen, one of the first companies in the world to confirm that high natural hydrogen deposits exist underground. Gold Hydrogen is now leading the race to commercialise hydrogen, a near carbon-zero energy source which would impact worldwide zero emissions targets. Gold Hydrogen is also progressing helium opportunities, as the hydrogen tests also produced strong helium showings, one of the first major finds in a non-petroleum area. Neil has more than 20 years of extensive commercial experience in the energy and minerals sectors and has helped commercialise some of Australia’s largest exploration projects for private and public companies.   What You’ll Learn The origins of Gold Hydrogen and its pioneering work in natural hydrogen explorationWhy South Australia’s geology is uniquely suited for hydrogen and helium extractionThe significance of helium-3 and its astronomical valueHow natural hydrogen compares to green hydrogen in terms of cost, carbon footprint, and scalabilityInsights into Gold Hydrogen’s strategic partnerships with Toyota Motor Corporation, Mitsubishi Gas Chemical and ENEOS Xplora The roadmap to commercial production and the role of infrastructure in scaling operationsKey Takeaways Natural hydrogen could be produced for under $1/kg, making it significantly cheaper than manmade alternativesGold Hydrogen has confirmed helium purity levels of 36.9%, the highest ever reported globallyHelium-3, valued at $15 million/kg, has been found in elevated levels in their wellsThe company’s exploration acreage spans 78,000+ square kilometres, with potentially enough hydrogen to power South Australia for 40+ years Resources & Links www.goldhydrogen.com.auGold Hydrogen Investor HubGold Hydrogen on LinkedInPress Release: Strategic Investment AnnouncementIf you’re as excited about the future of clean energy as we are, don’t forget to subscribe, share, and leave a review. For more information or to connect with Gold Hydrogen, check out the links above.

Discussions of Green Iron, Green Ammonia and Dual-fuel heavy transportStephen Archer:  Stephen Archer is the CEO of Warradarge Energy, a company leading the development of renewable hydrogen projects in Western Australia. Warradarge’s portfolio of projects covers diesel displacement, green iron, and green ammonia offtake markets. The company focuses on strong renewable resources and addressable offtake markets as a strategic focus. Stephen has spent over a decade in renewable energy and hydrogen project development, financing and execution. Most recently serving as WA State Manager for BP’s renewable energy division – where he developed over 2.6GW of grid-connected Solar, Wind and Battery projects, including Australia’s largest single-stage solar farm, and the renewable generation assets attached to some of the largest green hydrogen projects currently in development.  Episode Summary In this episode, Andy Marsland speaks with Stephen Archer, CEO of Warradarge Energy, about the company’s innovative approach to renewable hydrogen projects in Western Australia. They explore Warradarge’s three major initiatives: green hydrogen production, dual-fuel trucking technology, and green iron manufacturing. The conversation highlights the importance of pragmatic, scalable solutions in Australia’s energy transition. ­­­Topics & Highlights 1. Warradarge’s Mission and Strategy Developer of hydrogen projects in WA’s Midwest region.Focus on upstream and downstream market alignment.Three active projects: hydrogen production, dual-fuel logistics, and green iron.2. Green Hydrogen Production 25 MW electrolyzer connected behind-the-meter to a 300 MW wind farm.Utilizes curtailed energy for hydrogen production.Targeting diesel displacement with identified offtake customers.3. Dual-Fuel Trucking Technology Partnership with Newhaul and Fenix Resources.Retrofitting trucks to blend hydrogen into diesel intake.30–40% diesel displacement; scalable and reversible.Technology developed by HW Richardson in New Zealand.4. Green Iron Initiative Co-development of a 750–1000 MW hydrogen project for green iron production.Collaboration with Athena and Fenix Resources.Briquetting magnetite concentrate using renewable energy and hydrogen.Potential to offset ~4 million tonnes of CO₂ annually.5. Challenges and Policy Needs Demand-side policy gaps and international collaboration hurdles.Hydrogen’s role as a “Swiss Army knife” – versatile but not universal.Importance of realism and pragmatism in project development.6. Future Outlook Stage 1 construction planned for 2026.Stage 2 (green iron) targeted for 2030.Stage 3 (green ammonia export) in early development.Notable Quotes “Every achievement worth talking about was declared impossible before it was done.” – Stephen Archer “Hydrogen will assist, not replace everything.” – Stephen Archer Links: https://warradarge.com.au/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/warradarge-energy/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-archer/

How to Produce Green Ammonia for under US$300 per tonne – With Element One   Overview: In this episode, Andy Marsland explores the latest advancements in hydrogen and ammonia technologies with Phil Matthews and Troy Philpot. They discuss the potential of hydrogen and ammonia in the green energy sector, focusing on their commercial viability, practical applications, and the innovative technologies developed by Element One which are a potential game changer for the industry.  Guests:  Phil Matthews - Managing Director of Element One · Phil is the Managing Director at Element One, where he has dedicated over a decade to advancing the green energy sector. With a specialised focus on hydrogen derivatives, Phil has driven significant research and development initiatives aimed at enhancing renewable energy applications. Phil's academic foundation in Environmental Science and Sustainable Energy Management underpins his commitment to creating sustainable energy solutions for the future. His notable technological contributions include the development of Kraktek, an innovative ammonia reformer and hydrogen purification technology, as well as Ammoniac, a cutting-edge solution for renewable ammonia synthesis. Troy Philpot - Director of Origination at BE Power Group and consultant to Element One · Troy is the Director – Origination for the BE Power group of companies. BE Power have over 18GWh of pumped hydro and energy storage projects, totalling around $6B in construction value, under development across Australia.  He has over a decade of experience in high voltage electrical infrastructure, services and energy transition projects, with the commercial arm of Energy Queensland, as well as a background in commercial strategy, marketing and business development.  Troy supports the Element One team, with insights into commercial viability, potential industry partnerships and helps drive innovation opportunities. Key Topics: 1.   Introduction to Element One: ·         Phil Matthews introduces Element One, highlighting its focus on hydrogen carriers and the development of innovative technologies, Kraktek and Ammoniac. ·         The company's mission is to revolutionise hydrogen storage and transportation. 2.   Hydrogen Carriers and Transportation: ·         Discussion on the inefficiencies of current hydrogen storage and transportation methods. ·         Comparison between liquid hydrogen, compressed hydrogen, and ammonia as hydrogen carriers. ·         Phil's views on the volumetric energy density of hydrogen and the advantages of ammonia. 3.   Ammonia as a Hydrogen Carrier: ·         Benefits of using ammonia for hydrogen storage and transportation include existing infrastructure and higher energy density. ·         Comparison of ammonia tankers with liquid hydrogen ships in terms of practicality and energy efficiency. 4.   Innovative Technologies: ·         Introduction to Kraktek, an ammonia reformer. ·         The efficiency and purity of hydrogen produced using Crack Tech achieve 99.9999% purity. ·         Development of ammonium hydroxide as a safer alternative for hydrogen storage and transportation. 5.   Commercial Viability: ·         Troy Philpot discusses the economic advantages of Element One's technologies, emphasising cost-effectiveness and green credentials. ·         Discussion of how to produce green ammonia for under USD300 per tonne.  ·         The potential for ammonia to be a cheaper and greener alternative to traditional hydrocarbons. 6.   Safety and Practicality: ·         Addressing the toxicity of ammonia and how Element One's solutions mitigate these concerns. ·         The development of ammonium hydroxide as a safer, room-temperature liquid for hydrogen storage and transportation. 7.   Future Prospects: ·         Potential applications of these technologies in various industries, including transportation, mining, and agriculture. ·         The importance of industry partnerships and the role of universities in advancing these technologies. ·         The challenges of gaining acceptance and the need for first movers to adopt these technologies. 8.   Current Challenges: ·         There are difficulties in proving the technology and gaining wider acceptance. ·         There is a need for industry players with deeper pockets to adopt and scale these technologies. ·         The potential for overseas adoption before widespread use in Australia.  Conclusion: Andy, Phil, and Troy wrap up the episode by highlighting the transformative potential of ammonia technologies in achieving a sustainable energy future. They emphasise the need for continued innovation and collaboration to overcome current challenges and make these technologies commercially viable.   Call to Action: · Subscribe to the "Exploring Hydrogen" podcast for more insights into the hydrogen energy sector. · Follow Element One and BE Power Group for updates on their latest projects and advancements. · Check out the University of Newcastle's website for updates on their research and milestones related to hydrogen and ammonia technologies.   Links ·        https://elementone.com.au/ ·        https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/hydrogen-compression ·        https://www.newcastle.edu.au/newsroom/featured/partnership-puts-green-ammonia-project-on-fast-track-for-real-world-use ·        https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-sh3energy/ ·        https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-p-0084a212/

The State of Hydrogen – current opportunities and challenges. A perspective from the forefront of hydrogen research and development – With Central Queensland University Episode Summary: In this episode, Andy Marsland welcomes Paul Hodgson to discuss the advancements, opportunities, and challenges in the hydrogen energy sector. Paul shares his extensive experience and insights into the role of hydrogen in decarbonising Australia and the world, focusing on its applications in transportation, industry, and society. Paul Hodgson is Executive Director Regional Futures – Energy Transitions, and Director of the Centre for Hydrogen and Renewable Energy at CQUniversity Australia. He is also Chair of Queensland Manufacturing Institute and Vice Chair of the Hydrogen Flight Alliance. Prior to joining CQUniversity earlier last year, Paul was Interim CEO of a bid for a Scaling Green Hydrogen Cooperative Research Centre, developing a 10-year $213m research and training program with the support of 97 partners from 12 countries. Between 2017 and 2021, Paul was General Manager Innovation and Stakeholder Engagement (East Coast) for the Australian energy industry growth centre, NERA, where he led the development of a national network of regional hydrogen technology clusters. Key Topics Discussed: Paul Hodgson's Background:Roles at CQUniversity, Queensland Manufacturing Institute, and Hydrogen Flight Alliance.Passion for regional development and sustainable energy.Hydrogen's Role in Decarbonisation:Hydrogen as a tool for hard-to-abate sectors.Importance of decarbonising existing hydrogen production.Current State of Hydrogen Projects:Federal funding for low carbon liquid fuels.Challenges and opportunities in the hydrogen sector.The need for fewer, more collaborative projects.Hydrogen in Industry:Applications in ammonia production, steel industry, and refining fuels.Potential for hydrogen to replace LNG and coal exports.Challenges and Future Directions:Importance of foundational work in safety, regulations, and community engagement.The role of government and industry collaboration.The need for a strong foundation to support commercial viability.Research and Innovation at CQUniversity:Focus on reducing hydrogen production costs.Projects on raw water electrolysis and utilising excess solar energy.Collaboration with international partners and other universities.Global Hydrogen Landscape:Australia's position and potential in the global hydrogen market.Comparison with other countries' progress in hydrogen development.Notable Quotes: "Hydrogen is now being seen much more sensibly as a tool in a toolkit for things that are hard to abate.""The world will do this with or without Australia. There are lots of competitors out there."

Bio: Bob has 20 years of international aerospace experience, the past 8 of which he has worked on the cutting edge of electric aircraft innovation. He supported Heart Aerospace and Ampaire with electric propulsion system engineering development. He was an early member of the magniX leadership team, helping define company strategy, product roadmap, and certification as Head of Aircraft Integration. Earlier in his career, Bob worked at Google X on the Makani project and held lead positions in Saab, Airbus, UTC, Gulfstream, Northrop Grumman, and Boeing aircraft programs. Bob studied aerospace engineering at UNSW and went through Y Combinator in W23. At Stralis, Bob drives company strategy and manages the finances, leads fundraising and customer sales, and supports the engineering team with his extensive knowledge and expertise. Welcome to Exploring Hydrogen, the podcast that delves into the emerging hydrogen energy sector's innovations, opportunities, and challenges. In this episode, host Andy Marsland speaks with Bob Criner, co-founder and CEO of Stralis Aircraft. With over 20 years of aerospace experience, including cutting-edge electric propulsion innovation, Bob shares insights into how hydrogen is revolutionising aviation and what it means for the future of travel. Introduction to Stralis Aircraft  Stralis’ mission: Emission-free hydrogen-electric propulsion for aviation. Breakthrough in lightweight, high-temperature PEM fuel cells enabling long-distance hydrogen-powered flights. Progress towards first flight of Stralis’ demonstrator aircraft by late 2025 The Hydrogen Advantage in Aviation  Comparison of sustainable aviation fuel (SAF), hydrogen, and batteries for decarbonisation. Why hydrogen electric is the cost-efficient solution for flights up to 3,000 km. The potential for reducing ticket prices and enhancing regional connectivity. Technology and Innovation  Stralis’ propulsion system: Liquid hydrogen tanks, innovative fuel cells, and electric motors. Efficiency breakthrough Developing robust and scalable systems for future commercial applications. Challenges in Hydrogen Adopt  the Hydrogen Flight Alliance, including key partnerships with Brisbane Airport, QUT, and Fortescue.  Future Vision for Aviation  Scaling hydrogen technology from small regional aircraft to larger fleets. Long-term goal: 50-seat aircraft with 50% lower operating costs, reshaping point-to-point travel. Potential to reignite regional air travel with cheaper, cleaner, and more convenient flights. Hydrogen Beyond Passenger Planes  Expanding hydrogen technology into cargo drones for extended range and payload capabilities. Accelerating commercial adoption through real-world applications and partnerships. Insights for Startups in the Hydrogen Sector  Lessons learned from Y Combinator and the importance of founder communities. Strategies for navigating the funding landscape and fostering innovation in Australia. Key Quotes: "Hydrogen electric propulsion could redefine how we think about regional air travel—cleaner, cheaper, and more connected." – Bob Criner "With innovations in fuel cell efficiency and lightweight design, we’re unlocking the future of long-range, emission-free aviation." – Bob Criner Resources & Links:  Learn more about Stralis Aircraft: Stralis Website Connect with the Hydrogen Flight Alliance: HFA.Aero Stay updated with Stralis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/stralis-aircraft/ Join the Journey Thank you for tuning in to Exploring Hydrogen! Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with friends and colleagues. See you next time as we explore more ways hydrogen shapes a sustainable future.

Exploring Hydrogen Ep 26 – The ‘Rubbish’ (!) Episode. Converting Waste to Energy – With Wildfire Energy Greg Perkins is a co-founder, MD and CEO of Wildfire Energy His is an Innovator with more than 20 years of industry experience in the development of new technologies and projects for the energy and oil & gas industries, with 12 pending and granted patents. He has a passion for cleaner energy, technology, innovation and business strategy and is a former Adjunct Professor in Chemical Engineering at the University of Queensland, 2021-2024; MIChemE and CPEng Greg’s relevant experience includes: ·         Experience across diverse functions from technology, project delivery, construction and operations as well as business development ·         Start up and commissioning of a $100 million USD natural gas gasification unit at a refinery complex in Malaysia ·         Design, operation and troubleshooting of numerous coal gasification projects. ·         Inventor of the moving injection gravity drainage (MIGD) process for heavy oil recovery. Key Points and Discussion Highlights Sustainable Aviation Fuel and SyngasWildfire Energy’s unique process converts various organic materials into energy, which can then be used to make a variety of energy vector including sustainable aviation fuels and syngas, through a patented batch system.Unlike traditional methods, their technology eliminates the need for pre-treatment or sorting of waste, making it more efficient and cost-effective.Localised Waste Management SolutionsGreg highlights projects in Pacific Islands such as Nauru, where waste is often left in open areas, creating severe environmental problems.Wildfire’s system can convert waste into electricity, replacing imported diesel and reducing the environmental impact, while generating about 20% of the islands’ power needs.Adaptable Modular DesignThe technology is modular and scalable to suit communities of different sizes, from small rural towns to larger urban centres.This flexibility supports localised waste management, enabling communities to address their waste issues directly while creating jobs and generating renewable energy.Environmental Impact and Carbon CreditsWildfire’s process achieves net negative carbon emissions.The approach qualifies for Australian carbon credit units, further incentivising the diversion of waste from landfills and supporting broader carbon reduction goals.Global Demand for Renewable Energy SolutionsGreg discusses the growing global interest in hydrogen, sustainable aviation fuel (SAF), and methanol as energy sources for industries like aviation and shipping. Methanol, in particular, has significant potential in shipping and as an intermediate chemical for producing carbon-neutral plastics, contributing to a circular economy.Financial Challenges and Market AdoptionFunding remains a key challenge due to the capital-intensive nature of the technology, with many venture capital funds hesitant to invest in such projects. Despite this, Wildfire has secured government grants and international support.Future Outlook and Expansion PlansGreg envisions Wildfire Energy expanding globally, with dozens of operational projects within the next decade.The long-term strategy includes licensing the technology internationally, empowering communities worldwide to manage waste locally while generating renewable energyClosing Remarks Andy and Greg conclude by encouraging listeners to follow Wildfire Energy’s progress via their LinkedIn page and monthly newsletter, where they share updates and insights.Andy invites listeners to subscribe to the podcast for more episodes on innovative clean energy solutions and thanks Greg for an enlightening discussion about tackling waste and energy challenges with transformative technology. A link to their website and newsletters is below: Wildfire Energy Newsletters | wildfire (wildfireenergy.com.au)

Episode Summary:In this episode of Exploring Hydrogen, host Andy Marsland embarks on an enlightening conversation with Joanna Kay, a leading voice in the renewable hydrogen sector. Joanna serves as the Executive General Manager of the Smart Energy Council and leads Zero Carbon Hydrogen Australia, advocating for hydrogen as a key to the decarbonisation of Australia’s economy. Joanna offers a comprehensive overview of how hydrogen fits into Australia’s renewable energy landscape, from its potential role in industries like transportation and manufacturing to the challenges of scaling production and adoption. The conversation delves into the critical importance of certification programs for ensuring hydrogen production remains truly green, meeting rigorous environmental standards. Together, they explore Australia's place in the global hydrogen conversation, comparing national efforts to those of international leaders like the European Union, the US, and Japan. Joanna also highlights the role of government incentives and global standards in shaping the future of green hydrogen and explains why ensuring harmonised certification is key for building a sustainable hydrogen economy worldwide. Key Topics Discussed: Introduction to the Smart Energy Council and Zero Carbon Hydrogen Australia:Joanna explains the work of the Smart Energy Council, which has been active in Australia for decades, representing the renewable energy value chain, including solar, batteries, wind, and hydrogen. Zero Carbon Hydrogen Australia, established in 2018, focuses on both domestic and international hydrogen applications and derivative products like green ammonia and green metals. Hydrogen Certification and Global Standards:Hydrogen can be produced using various methods, not all of which are green. Joanna highlights the importance of Zero Carbon Hydrogen Australia’s certification program—the only industry-led initiative in Australia—that ensures green hydrogen projects meet the global standard of less than one kilogram of carbon per kilogram of hydrogen. The discussion also explores how different countries define green hydrogen and the challenges of aligning these definitions to promote global trade and cooperation. Comparing Australia’s Hydrogen Standards to Global Leaders:Joanna and Andy discuss how Australia’s standards stack up against global leaders like the European Union and the United States, which have different carbon intensity thresholds for what they define as green hydrogen. They explore the complexities of developing a unified global standard and the opportunities it presents for Australia as an emerging leader in the green hydrogen space. The Role of Government and Public Funding:Joanna provides insights into how government incentives, such as the production tax credits in Australia, are playing a crucial role in supporting the growth of the hydrogen sector. They also explore recent findings from the International Energy Agency, which suggest that with proper public funding, green hydrogen could become the most cost-competitive hydrogen source by 2030, surpassing alternatives like blue hydrogen. Future Vision for Hydrogen in Australia:Joanna outlines the next steps for Australia’s hydrogen industry, including the expansion of green hydrogen into industrial processes, the potential for international trade, and how certification will play a key role in ensuring transparency and environmental accountability. She also shares examples of successfully certified projects, like Bristol Springs and Yarra International, which demonstrate Australia’s capability to deliver green hydrogen. Notable Quotes: “What we're focused on is making sure hydrogen produced in Australia is genuinely green—meaning zero emissions. Blue hydrogen, which relies on carbon capture, may have its place as a transition fuel, but we’re advocating for true decarbonisation.” – Joanna Kay“By 2030, green hydrogen could outcompete all other forms of hydrogen globally if public funding is directed towards supporting its production.” – Joanna KayEpisode Highlights: Deep Dive into Zero Carbon Hydrogen Australia:Joanna details the mission and structure of Zero Carbon Hydrogen Australia, a division of the Smart Energy Council, which has been at the forefront of developing renewable hydrogen initiatives and projects across Australia. With over 200 members involved in hydrogen projects, the organisation plays a pivotal role in shaping the future of hydrogen in Australia.The Importance of Certification in Hydrogen Production:Hydrogen certification ensures that green hydrogen projects meet strict carbon emission standards. Joanna explains the technical challenges of maintaining global consistency in certification and why it is essential for promoting international hydrogen trade and reducing the carbon footprint of industrial processes.Global Comparisons of Hydrogen Standards:Joanna and Andy discuss the variations in hydrogen standards across different countries. For example, the US and EU have different carbon limits per kilogram of hydrogen, which impacts how hydrogen is classified as green. They also explore the potential for global harmonisation of these standards to facilitate international hydrogen markets.Australia’s Role as a Hydrogen Leader:Joanna shares exciting details about Australia's growing influence in the hydrogen space, including key projects that have been certified as green hydrogen and the country's potential to become a significant player in the global green hydrogen market. She also talks about the importance of aligning state and national standards to strengthen Australia’s position.The Future of Green Hydrogen:Joanna discusses the potential for green hydrogen to become the leading source of clean energy globally, driven by advancements in technology, government incentives, and growing demand for decarbonisation. With global targets on the horizon, Australia is well-positioned to lead the charge.Resources Mentioned: Smart Energy Council: https://smartenergy.org.au/ Zero Carbon Hydrogen Australia: https://smartenergy.org.au/zero-carbon-hydrogen-australia/ IEA Report – the future of Hydrogen: https://www.iea.org/reports/the-future-of-hydrogen Green Hydrogen Catapult Paper on Emissions accounting https://gh2.org/sites/default/files/2024-09/H2-Emissions-Accounting-White-Paper-Sept%202024-compressed.pdfJoanna’s LinkedIn linkedin.com/in/joanna-kay-057437216ZHCA LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/zero-carbon-hydrogen-australia/ Australia’s 2024 National Hydrogen Strategy https://www.dcceew.gov.au/energy/publications/australias-national-hydrogen-strategy   Joanna’s full bio: Joanna Kay is a highly respected voice in the renewable hydrogen landscape, holding the pos...