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Join host Curtis Chang and his friends as they follow Jesus and make sense of the world. With expertise, thoughtfulness, and humor, they discuss how Christian faith intersects with culture, politics, work, entertainment, and other aspects of life. Good Faith is produced by Redeeming Babel. Good Faith is ranked in the top .5 percent of all podcasts.
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Alister McGrath: Does It Matter if Christianity Is Rational?
2026/10/22
Can We Speak About Jesus's Transforming Power Without Reducing It To a Consumer Product?
You can believe Christianity is true and still wonder what difference it makes. Theologian and former atheist Alister McGrath joins Curtis Chang to discuss Rethinking Christianity and why conversations about faith need to address meaning, purpose, and hope alongside rational belief. They explore the danger of reducing Christianity to self-help, the limits of intellectual answers to suffering, and how Jesus' suffering speaks to people in their darkest moments. Curtis also shares his experience of anxiety and depression as they consider how truth, lived experience, and Christian friendship can sustain faith.
02:34 - Why Won't Christianity Stay Buried?
04:43 - Dr. McGrath's Journey from Atheism to Christianity
07:11 - From Debating Atheism to Addressing Meaning
15:30 - Consumerism, Relevance, and Losing Christianity's Story
19:19 - How Can We Find Purpose and Flourish in Faith?
23:46 - The Limits of Apologetic Answers to Suffering
30:43 - Explaining the Trinity
33:09 - Preaching to the Choir and Finding Companions
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Dr. McGrath's Rethinking Christianity: A Thoughtful Guide to a Life-Changing Faith C.S. Lewis's The Problem of Pain Henri Blocker's Evil and the Cross More about C.S. Lewis's conversion More about Dorothy L. Sayers More about Alvin Plantinga Dr. McGrath Debates Richard Dawkins Dr. McGrath Debates Christopher Hitchens Dr. McGrath Debates Daniel Dennett
Scriptures:
John 4:1–42 (ESV) John 10:10 (ESV) Psalm 23 (ESV) Matthew 7:24–27 (ESV)
More From Dr. McGrath:
Professor Alister McGrath at the University of Oxford Alister McGrath's website Alister McGrath's books
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David French: What Christians Should Want on Election Night
2026/10/15
Will the Midterms Be a Tourniquet, a Cure, or Something Else Entirely?
Does who wins Congress matter? What happens to American democracy after the midterms may be up for grabs. Good Faith "founding friend" and New York Times columnist David French joins Curtis Chang to look beyond the 2026 midterm scoreboard and explore what the elections could mean for presidential power, political extremism, and the church's public witness. They discuss the limits of congressional checks on President Trump, the Texas Senate race between James Talarico and Ken Paxton, and why restoring trust requires more than a partisan victory. David and Curtis also offer practical ways Christians can move to active participation—and a call to pray for justice, repentance, and reconciliation.
01:28 - David Forecasts the Midterms
06:45 - Can a Democratic Congress Check the President?
13:10 - The Republican Party's Future and Moderate Candidates
17:48 - Institutional Damage and Constitutional Checks
22:47 - Election Integrity and the Risk of Close Results
30:22 - The Need to Move from Spectatorship to Participation
35:50 - Speaking Up in Evangelical Churches
41:08 - Is Texas a Signal for Faith and Politics?
46:23 - Why Do Candidates Like Adam Kinzinger Struggle?
51:03 - David's Call to Prayer
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Good Faith ep. 252: David French: Can We Trust the Supreme Court? David French's The 'God Gap' Is Narrowing in Texas Virginia debate Ratifying Convention: Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 Congressal authority to judge its members' elections/qualifications: Article I, Section 5 Learn more about The After Party course
Scriptures:
Jeremiah 29:7 (ESV) 1 Timothy 2:1–2 (ESV)
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David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads
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John Mark Comer: Does the Church Need a Quiet Revolution?
2026/10/08
Escaping the Digital Age Where Noise Is Our Destiny
What if the noise filling your life is drowning out God's voice? John Mark Comer joins Curtis Chang to discuss his book Into the Quiet: Following Jesus in a World of Noise and how churches can offer refuge from digital overload, what the Desert Fathers and Mothers teach about faith and power, and why contemplative prayer sustains public engagement. John Mark and Curtis do a deep dive into the relationship between contemplative prayer, political engagement, and faithful public witness. Along the way, John Mark offers gentle, practical ways to begin making room for God—even if sitting still feels impossible.
02:27 - How do we talk about silence in a noisy age?
06:19 - "Quiet time" versus quiet presence
10:52 - Why does solitude matter for active people?
15:34 - Is solitude essential to discipleship?
23:11 - Noisy churches and quieter worship
30:01 - Silence, politics, and public witness
37:40 - The Desert Fathers, Constantine, the church & empire
43:45 - Solitude and confronting demonic thoughts
50:32 - Starting a practice of quiet & finding joy in God
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Mentioned in This Episode:
John Mark Comer's Into the Quiet: Following Jesus in a World of Noise More about Martin Laird More about Dallas Willard & spiritual disciplines Richard Foster's list of spiritual disciplines Adele Ahlberg Calhoun's Spiritual Disciplines Handbook BJ Fogg's Tiny Habits: The Small Changes That Change Everything Howard Thurman's Jesus and the Disinherited Howard Thurman's Meditations of the Heart Scriptures:
Luke 5:15–16 (ESV) Psalm 46 (ESV) Matthew 4:1–11 and Luke 4:1–13 (ESV) Jude 9 (ESV) Colossians 1:27 (ESV) 1 Corinthians 6:19–20 (ESV) More From John Mark Comer:
Explore John Mark's website Listen to John Mark's podcast Find John Mark on Instagram Watch John Mark on YouTube
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Sharon McMahon: Democracy Starts at Home
2026/10/01
Can the Next Generation Do Politics Better Than We Have?
Being angry on the internet isn't activism. So what actually makes a difference? Sharon McMahon, "America's government teacher" and author of The Small and the Mighty and host of the Preamble podcast, joins Curtis Chang to explore how we can help the next generation do politics better and build a healthier democracy in the process. They discuss raising engaged citizens, choosing character over party loyalty, and loving our neighbors—even when they're our enemies. With the midterms approaching, Sharon offers a practical path from political frustration to local civic engagement, reminding us that hope begins with believing our actions matter.
00:54 - Welcome and Why Civic Formation Matters
05:53 - Norm Mineta and Modeling Public Service
09:27 - Teaching Young People to Vote Thoughtfully
14:21 - Can Civic Engagement Form Character?
18:04 - Choosing a Community Focus
23:55 - Loving Enemies Without Accepting Harm
34:04 - Helping College Students Speak Up
38:30 - Civic Education During a Constitutional Crisis
41:26 - Is Hope an Active Choice?
43:55 - Helping One Person at a Time
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Sharon McMahon's The Small and the Mighty Sharon McMahon's We Are Mighty More about Norman Mineta Executive Order 9066: Resulting in Japanese-American Incarceration (1942) Read the Constitution and the Preamble (transcript)
Scriptures:
Matthew 22:34-40 and Matthew 5:43-48 (ESV) Matthew 6:10 (ESV)
More From Sharon McMahon:
Sharon McMahon's website Sharon McMahon's The Preamble podcast Sharon McMahon's The Preamble Newsletter
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David French: Can We Trust the Supreme Court?
2026/09/24
What Happens When Power, Politics, and Judges Collide? (Spoiler: It's Complicated)
Host Curtis Chang and New York Times columnist David French ask how much Americans can rely on the Supreme Court if the 2026 midterms are contested. They discuss the constitutional limit on presidential terms and why a disputed House race could expose the limits of judicial power. French explains why he remains hopeful about the highest court in the land despite political pressure, and shares his concerns about the conservative Christian legal movement. They also ask Christians: How can you love your neighbors when a court ruling causes harm?
03:19 - The Most Relevant Supreme Court Ruling of 2026
10:26 - Risks of the Upcoming Midterm Elections
13:16 - The Threat of Exploiting Legal Confusion
20:10 - Internal Relationships Within the Supreme Court
27:12 - The Influence of Personal Experience on Court Decisions
31:45 - The Conservative Christian Legal Movement's Influence
38:31 - Practicing the Second Greatest Commandment
46:10 - How to Pray for the Supreme Court
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Mentioned in This Episode:
David French's article The Fix Was Almost In Listen to the Supreme Court: argument audio The Supreme Court's tariff ruling The Constitution's Twenty-Second Amendment More about: Missouri Supreme Court and congressional maps Georgetown Journal of Legal Ethics: The Dobbs Leak as an Illustration of the Impasse Between Legal Ethics and Reality Washington Post: Why a lawyer who launched the Christian legal movement believes it's gone astray Read about Toyosaburo Korematsu v. United States
Scriptures:
Mark 12:31 (ESV)
More From David French:
David French's New York Times pieces HERE David French's Advisory Opinions podcast Follow David French on Threads
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Andy Crouch: Why Is AI Coming for My College Degree?
2026/09/17
Your "Safe" College Major May Be an AI Dead End
Could AI make your college degree obsolete while making your plumber more valuable? Curtis Chang and Andy Crouch explore how artificial intelligence is disrupting higher education and the future of work—and why skilled trades and embodied human abilities may be safer bets. They also examine the rise of AI therapy and explain why chatbots can offer useful advice but can never replace human connection, spiritual community, and forgiveness.
02:36 - Declaring Personal Educational Backgrounds
13:26 - The Risk of "Cutting Edge" Education
15:37 - Computer Science: A Good Bet Turned Bad?
19:49 - Advice for Today's College Students
27:11 - The Role of a Teacher in the AI Age
30:54 - What About First-Generation American Students
35:27 - The Value of Skilled Trades
38:08 - The Intellectual Life of the Working Class
42:38 - The Real-World Value of Skilled Professionals
44:26 - What About AI as a Mental Health Tool?
47:35 - The Limits of AI in Providing Human Connection
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Notre Dame's DELTA: Human Formation in the Age of AI Jean Lee Latham's Carry On, Mr. Bowditch Jonathan Rose's The Intellectual Life of the British Working Classes Matthew Loftus' Resisting Therapy Culture Good Faith episode 245: When Mental Health Goes Too Far with Matthew Loftus RAND study: Use of Generative AI for Mental Health Advice Among US Adolescents and Young Adults Ronald Heifetz's adaptive-leadership framework
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The Homeland Security Trap? with Russell Moore & Elizabeth Neumann
2026/09/10
What America Learned, Feared, and Forgot After 9/11
Former Trump White House security expert Elizabeth Neumann and theologian Russell Moore join Curtis Chang to consider whether America is safer—or simply more afraid—25 years after 9/11. They examine the war with Iran, immigration enforcement, domestic extremism, government overreach, and the church's complicity in fear-driven efforts. Together, they ask how Christians can confront legitimate threats without surrendering to fear, offering civic engagement, moral courage, and faithful "small refusals" to conform as a way forward.
03:14 - A 25-Year Review of Homeland Security
06:22 - A Theological View on "Homeland Security"
09:55 - How Do We Evaluate the War with Iran?
19:34 - Should Christians Trust the State?
24:01 - The Public's Disengagement from Government
28:54 - The Church's Role in Local Justice
33:59 - The Rise of Domestic Terrorism
40:52 - Is the Church Complicit in Fear Mongering?
42:29- Russell's Counsel for Pastors: Small Refusals
44:39 - The Personal Cost of Opposing Government Overreach
48:22 - When Lament and Hope Are the Same Thing
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Elizabeth Neumann's Kingdom of Rage: The Rise of Christian Extremism and the Path Back to Peace National September 11 Memorial & Museum: Marking the 25th Anniversary George W. Bush White House's the Department of Homeland Security executive Summary More about National Immigration Forum Wendell Berry's "A Statement Against the War in Vietnam" from The Long-Legged House
Scriptures:
Hebrews 11:13–16 ESV Jeremiah 29:7 ESV 1 Samuel 8 ESV Romans 12–13 ESV Isaiah 8:11–13 ESV Romans 8:24–27 ESV
More From Elizabeth Neumann:
Elizabeth Neumann's website
More From Russell Moore:
Russell Moore's Substack Read Russell Moore's article The Trump-Era Laughter at Immigrant Suffering Is Deforming Our Souls Sign up for Russell Moore's weekly newsletter Moore to the Point
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Has the Modern Slave Trade Met Its Match? with Gary Haugen
2026/09/03
Miracles, Heartbreak, and the Fight Against Human Trafficking
Nearly 50 million people remain trapped in modern slavery—but International Justice Mission founder Gary Haugen believes it could end in our lifetime. He joins host Curtis Chang to explore how IJM fights human trafficking by transforming broken justice systems, where God is amid horrific evil and patient prayer, and how Christians can stop watching from the sidelines and join the fight.
02:23 - The Evolution of IJM's Strategy of Strengthening Local Justice Systems
08:30 - US Complicity in Global Slavery
13:48 - The Impact of Unpredictable US Government Action
18:24 - Is Their a Contradiction in Evangelical Support?
24:23 - The Role of Miracles in Fighting Evil
28:56 - Waiting For Prayers to Be Answered
33:51 - The Dangers of Christian Hero Worship
45:26 - A Call to Action Against Modern Day Slavery
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Gary Haugen's biography IJM's work fighting trafficking and slavery IJM's response to the State Department funding pause U.S. State Department Trafficking in Persons Report Global Estimates of Modern Slavery Child trafficking and forced labor on Ghana's Lake Volta Good Faith episode 224: Francis Collins and Kristine Torjesen
Scriptures:
Matthew 5:16 (ESV) Matthew 25:14–30 (ESV)
International Justice Mission:
Get involved with IJM Pray with IJM Support IJM's advocacy work IJM resources for churches
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What the Heck Is a Democratic Socialist? with David French
2026/08/27
Untangling America's Socialist Fever and Fear
Host Curtis Chang and Good Faith "founding friend" David French ask whether democratic socialism is your grandparents' socialism, the left's answer to MAGA, or something more sinister. They unpack what Christians should make of its growing influence by exploring the DSA, economic inequality, America's national debt, the influence of Big Tech, and why Christians who feel politically homeless still have an obligation to stay engaged.
00:44 - Introduction to Democratic Socialism
02:19 - Can We Define a Democratic Socialist?
04:04 - Should Socialism Scare Us?
08:39 - Is the DSA the Left's MAGA?
17:38 - The Electoral Risk of Extremism
21:21 - Is There a Theological Take on Socialism?
25:19 - Has Debt Seized the Means of Production?
28:45 - Policy Must Be Effective, Not Just Well-Intentioned
33:13 - The Role of Economics in Moral Reasoning
34:19 - The Homeless Political Middle
36:43 - The Legitimate Grievances Fueling Extremism
42:08 - Socialism and the Threat of Big Tech
43:52 - The Presumption of Socialism and Economic Freedom
47:13 - Encouragement for the Politically Homeless
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Ten Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) Arguments for Socialism and Why They're Wrong (CATO Institute) Hasan Piker: What You Need to Know (Anti-Defamation League) Pope Leo XIII's Rerum Novarum (the basis for solidarity and subsidiarity) Congressional Budget Office: the federal debt / long-term budget outlook What is the Federal Debt right now? (Peter G. Peterson Foundation) Noah Smith: No one knows how much the government can borrow David French's How Can America Be So Miserable When It's So Rich? Starlink in the Russian-Ukrainian war More about labor leader Eugene Debs More about 20th Century economist Friedrich August Hayek
Scriptures:
Proverbs 22:7 (ESV) 1 Kings 19:18 (ESV) Romans 11:4 (ESV)
More From David French:
David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads
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What Loneliness Is Trying to Tell You with Dr. Alison Cook
2026/08/20
Why Are We So Lonely Even When We're Not Alone?
Host Curtis Chang talks with psychologist and podcaster Dr. Alison Cook about why America's loneliness epidemic can't be solved by simply adding more people to our lives. They explore how attachment wounds, anxiety, distraction, and modern life leave us disconnected—and how solitude and honest prayer can become paths toward healing. Dr. Cook offers a practice for loneliness: "recognize and return"—name what you feel, then remember, "I am loved even here."
02:46 - Why Do We Minimize Loneliness?
05:12 - What Is Attachment Theory?
10:31 - Childhood Wounds and Cultural Context
13:42 - Where God Enters the Healing Process
16:14 - The Inner Dialogue with God
20:44 - The Importance of Solitude
27:20 - The Modern Epidemic of Loneliness
35:16 - Loneliness as a Holy Longing
39:22 - Spiritual Practices for a Healthy Inner Life
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Dr. Cook's The Secure Soul: Finding Inner Strength and Connection When Trust Doesn't Come Easy The U.S. Surgeon General's report: Our Epidemic of Loneliness and Isolation Professor Irvin D. Yalom's Existential Psychotherapy Dietrich Bonhoeffer's Life Together
Scriptures:
Psalm 42 (ESV) Psalm 131 (ESV) Psalm 139 (ESV) Genesis 2 (ESV) Romans 8 (ESV)
More From Alison Cook:
Dr. Alison Cook's Website Dr. Alison Cook's The Best of You podcast
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Andy Crouch: Defending the Human Mind in an AI World
2026/08/13
Do friction, struggle, and silence make you fully human?
AI can generate an answer, but it cannot suffer with you, worship, love a neighbor, or become wise. Host Curtis Chang and Andy Crouch, the partner for theology and culture at Praxis, explore how AI may weaken our minds, distort relationships, and tempt us to outsource the very experiences that form wisdom, wonder, and sacrificial love. From chatbot "companionship" and AI-assisted grief to medicine, spiritual counsel, and the loss of silence, Curtis and Andy ask whether convenience is quietly creating a kind of cognitive metabolic syndrome and what we can do about it.
00:01:22 - Introduction to AI's Impact on Our Minds.
00:04:35 - Lessons from Social Media's Evolution
00:08:26 - Cognitive Metabolic Syndrome
00:18:45 - What Is the Purpose of the Human Mind?
00:25:23 - Wonder vs. Power
00:26:49 - Love Requires Suffering and Friction
00:34:38 - The Limits of AI in Healthcare
00:40:53 - The Danger of Outsourcing Life's Hardships
00:51:23 - The Loss of Silence
00:58:11 - The AI Forced Conversation on Being Human
01:01:03 - Practical Ways to Protect Our Humanity
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Andrew Briggs and Roger Wagner's The Penultimate Curiosity: How Science Swims in the Slipstream of Ultimate Questions Thomas Fuchs' In Defence of the Human Being Victor Hugo's Les Misérables Tristan Harris on How AI Worsens Ills Caused by Social Media (The Economist) Explore the work of The Future of Life Institute Emma Pearson's I'd Rather Risk Cancer Than See AI Move This Fast (The Atlantic)
Scriptures:
Mark 12:30–31 (ESV) Matthew 22:37–39 (ESV) Deuteronomy 6:5 (ESV) Luke 10:27 (ESV)
More From Andy Crouch:
Check out Andy's website Check out Andy's work at Praxis Read Andy's book: The Life We're Looking For Read Andy's book The Tech-Wise Family: Everyday Steps for Putting Technology in Its Proper Place
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When Mental Health Goes Too Far with Matthew Loftus
2026/08/06
How Does Therapy Culture Undermine True Healing?
Host Curtis Chang talks with physician and author Matthew Loftus about how therapeutic language can distort ordinary suffering, turn disagreement into "gaslighting," and leave people feeling less capable of changing their lives. They examine the overmedicalization of grief and anxiety, the rise of mental health culture in schools, and why churches risk losing their purpose when pastors start acting like therapists.
**This is not an attack on therapy or psychiatric medication. It is a provocative conversation about when mental health care becomes a worldview—and whether our relentless focus on feeling better is actually making us sicker.
02:10 - Therapy Practice vs. Therapy Culture
03:52 - The Importance of Personal Experience
06:34 - The Three Elements of Therapy Culture
10:09 - The Problem with Focusing on Mental Health
13:22 - The Suggestive Power of Diagnosis
15:30 - A Christian Understanding of Suffering
17:57 - Finding Solace in the Midst of Suffering
21:40 - The Role of Medication in Mental Health
25:49 - Knowing When Therapy Becomes Unhelpful
28:30 - The Unique, Healing Functions of the Church
32:21 - How Parents Can Counter Therapy Culture in Schools
35:01 - A Final Word of Encouragement
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Mentioned in This Episode:
Matthew Loftus's Resisting Therapy Culture Curtis Chang's Anxiety Opportunity Kathryn Greene-McCreight's Darkness Is My Only Companion What is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy?
Further Reading:
DSM5 and the Medicalization of Grief: Two Perspectives (article) Matter over mind: How mental health symptom presentations shape diagnostic outcomes Effectiveness of school-based mental health programs on mental health among adolescents
Scriptures:
Romans 8:38–39 (ESV)
More From Matthew Loftus:
Matthew's website Matthew's writing at Mere Orthodoxy Matthew's articles at Plough
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The Real Thing Driving American Politics from No Small Endeavor
2026/07/30
Bridging Two Worlds: An American Immigrant's Story of Faith, Anxiety, and Political Calling
Today, we are sharing a conversation between Curtis Chang and Lee C. Camp on the Signal Award-winning and 2026 Ambie Award-nominated podcast No Small Endeavor. Hosted by award-winning teacher and Professor of Theology and Ethics Lee C. Camp, No Small Endeavor explores what it means to live a good life through conversations about culture, ideas, and the habits that help people flourish.
In this episode, you'll hear from Curtis Chang as he reflects on his experience as a Chinese American immigrant, former pastor, and public theologian, and argues that anxiety sits at the root of America's political crisis. Chang explains how anxiety is rooted in a fear of future loss, and offers actionable ways to name, face, and move through that anxiety with compassion rather than avoidance.
You'll also hear Chang and Camp dig into how institutions are made up of people rather than systems, why that means they're capable of being healed rather than torn down, and why refocusing on the how of politics rather than just the what is essential to moving beyond our current moment of division.
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00:00:19 - Introducing You to No Small Endeavor
00:04:07 - What Is Curtis Chang's Earliest Memory?
00:05:26 - Immigrant Curtis and Cultural Displacement
00:07:24 - The Subtle Art of Bridge Building
00:11:44 - Henry Kissinger and Harvard
00:16:32 - Reconciliation Work in South Africa
00:20:20 - Is Anxiety an Opportunity?
00:27:54 - Anxiety in American Politics
00:39:20 - Are Institutions Multipliers of Humanity?
00:43:44 - The "How" vs. The "What" of Politics
00:50:21 - Curtis Navigates Cynicism
00:54:23 - Pessimism, Hope, and the Resurrection
00:59:40 - The Practice of Contemplative Prayer
Mentioned in This Episode:
Listen to episodes and follow No Small Endeavor Lee C. Camp's Scandalous Witness: A Little Political Manifesto for Christians Curtis Chang & Nancy French's The After Party: Toward Better Christian Politics Curtis Chang's The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry Is the Doorway to Your Best Self
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David French on How the Confederacy Still Shapes America
2026/07/23
What Does the Confederacy's Legacy Mean for the Modern South and Christian America?
Host Curtis Chang and New York Times columnist, and Good Faith podcast "founding friend," David French confront the enduring power of the Confederate myth. David reflects on growing up as a white Southerner in a culture shaped by Confederate symbols, revisionist history, racial injustice, and a deeply rooted shame-and-honor code. Curtis, a Chinese American immigrant, brings an outsider's perspective that challenges familiar assumptions about heritage, memory, and belonging. Together, they examine Confederate monuments, the theological defenses of slavery, the meaning of "heritage, not hate," and whether honest historical reckoning can lead to redemption and reconciliation.
02:51 - Curtis Congratulates David on the Birth of His Latest Grandchild
05:54 - Why Does the Confederacy Still Matter?
10:12 - The South's Distinct Cultural Cohesion
22:19 - "Heritage, Not Hate": A White Southern Perspective
29:52 - Race, Religion, and Revisionism in the South
42:13 - The Resurgence of Explicit Racism
47:20 - What to Do with Confederate Memorials
56:32 - Repenting of Southern Shame-Honor Culture
01:01:32 - Institutions Founded on Injustice Can Carry Spiritual Darkness
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Learn about the Tulsa Race Massacre Learn about The Great Migration Watch MLK50 Conference (video) More about General George H. Thomas More about the Southern Baptist Convention and slavery What is Kinism More about the South's resistance to Reconstruction Read the Civil Rights Act of 1964 Watch: Selma and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (video)
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Ephesians 6:12 (ESV) Colossians 2:15 (ESV) Luke 10:25–37 (ESV) Matthew 20:16 (ESV) Matthew 10:39 (ESV)
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When Protestant Curiosity Meets Catholic Wisdom with Pete Wehner
2026/07/16
What can Protestants learn from the Catholic tradition?
Host Curtis Chang and The Atlantic writer and former White House staffer Pete Wehner explore how Catholic social teaching—from subsidiarity and solidarity to the preferential option for the poor—offers a rich framework for Christian public life. They consider the limits of sola scriptura, unpack the importance of intellectual rigor, and define Christian humanism. Curtis and Pete also contrast the public faith of Pope Leo XIV and Vice President JD Vance, asking why faithful Christian witness should shape how believers respond to artificial intelligence and other challenges of our time.
02:31 - Does Catholic Theology Meet a Protestant Need?
04:41 - Tradition Is Powerful
08:43 - Does Sola Scriptura Have Limits?
10:19 - Protestant Traditions and Discernment
13:54 - Catholicism's Robust Frameworks
17:08 - Reclaiming Tradition for Protestants
21:36 - Embracing the Life of the Mind
27:22 - Christian Humanism fand 21st Century Questions
30:08 - A Protestant-Catholic Convergence
37:42 - Comparing Visions: JD Vance and Pope Leo
41:16 - The Power of a Faithful Witness
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Referenced in the Episode:
Pete Wehner's article American Christians Face a Choice Learn about the seven themes of Catholic social teaching Carl F. H. Henry's The Uneasy Conscience of Modern Fundamentalism Alan Jacobs's The Year of Our Lord 1943: Christian Humanism in an Age of Crisis Christian Wiman's My Bright Abyss John F. Kennedy's 1960 address to Protestant ministers in Houston (video) Pope Leo XIV's encyclical on artificial intelligence, Magnifica Humanitas Pope Leo XIII's encyclical on capital and labor, Rerum Novarum Daniel K. Williams on J.D. Vances' Communion What Type of Christian is J. D. Vance? Miroslav Volf on Forgiveness, Justice, and Reconciliation (video) Miroslav Volf & Christian Wiman's Glimmerings
Scriptures Referenced:
Psalm 127:3–5 (ESV) Acts 2:42–47 (ESV) Luke 4:1–13 (ESV)
More from Pete Wehner:
Pete Wehner's articles at The Atlantic Pete Wehner's opinion pieces at The New York Times
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LBWadsworth 2026/07/02
Thank you Mr Wehner
Great podcast! Many honest, thoughtful and informative points made by Mr Wehner . I have shared it several times since hearing a week ago.
Amomundo 2026/06/07
Nourishing
What a balm to my soul! Thank you for the wisdom and encouragement, Curtis, during these hard times. The interview with Sara Grove was so special. I l...
Sarah from the Midwest 2026/06/04
So good!
I grew up in an evangelical Christian household, left the faith in my early 20’s, and have now just recently given my life back to Christ in my mid-40...
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Matt Maher & Malcolm Guite!
I love that this podcast includes art and beauty in its attempts to make sense of the world. The episodes with Matt Maher and Malcolm Guite are a gift...
Whateveraw 2026/05/10
Episode. Re Ukraine w David French was electric! The content so dense as to what is happening before
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David Thomas episode on parenting
I thought the episode with David Thomas was fantastic. I was reminded of how important it is to let kids struggle, fail, and learn how to handle disap...
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Malcom Guite episode
Good Faith is such a great podcast. The recent interview with Malcolm Guite was so beautifully done. Interviews are interesting, but editing it into m...
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Thoughtful reflection
These podcasts give me moments of reflection, grounded in scripture, logic and common sense that help me deepen my own views on various aspects of lif...
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least two years now. I have appreciated every single episode. & always look forward to the next. Thanks Curtis!
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Great conversations
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