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96 episodes
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Davy Fung + PJ OnoriExplicit
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Date created
2022/01/18
Latest episode
2026/01/23
Average duration
34 min.
Release period
17 days
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Davy and PJ, design system practitioners talk about design-led product ownership, scaling and adoption, community and engagement, design system team models, and much more.
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Ep 94: Tech Dependencies
2026/01/23
Building vs. Inheriting: Davy and PJ discuss the performance cost of design system dependencies. Learn how to choose the right framework without bloating your system or losing control of your architecture.
Ep 93: 2026 and our 4th Podcast Bday
2026/01/05
Davy and PJ celebrate four years of Design System Office Hours by looking ahead at the shifting landscape of 2026. They explore how interoperability, open-source tooling, and AI-driven documentation being major themes to uplevel design system practices.
Ep 92: Naming is Hard
2025/12/18
Davy and PJ tackle the notorious difficulty of naming in design systems, advocating for human-readable, descriptive language over "cute" metaphors and discussing how AI is making file cleanliness more critical than ever.
Ep 91: The Erosion of Open Design Systems
2025/12/04
Davy and PJ discuss a potential trend of major design systems going from public to internal only, stressing that public documentation is the ultimate forcing function for quality and a huge win for the community.
Ep 90: WTF is Craft
2025/11/13
Davy and PJ talk about the term "craft," emphasizing that high-quality design work requires designers to understand engineering constraints and that a good design system needs to provide education, not just components and prototypes.
Ep 89: Figma Slots Conference
2025/10/30
Davy talks to PJ about his trip to see Figma's slots conference, formerly known as Schema. We talk about the releases and rejoice on a focus on the main editor again.
Ep 88: Stay in Learning Mode w/ Ben Callahan
2025/10/15
Davy talks to friend of the program, Ben Callahan from Sparkbox about his series The Question, which brings together design system designers bi-weekly to share and learn collaboratively in a 60-min workshop.
Ep 87: Thinking Like an Engineer
2025/09/30
Davy and PJ talk about how amongst many good engineering traits, the rigor, and ways they work should be more adopted by product designers and specially us, maintainers. If we can track, version, and test our work as rigorously as engineers, we would be in a higher quality bar.
Ep 86: I'm New to the TEAM w/ Guy Segal
2025/09/18
Davy talks special co-host, Guy Segal, about his first month at his new design systems job at Atlassian, and the fun of being a newbie after the first 30 days, when the going really starts getting tough.
Ep 85: Design Systems Ambassador
2025/09/04
Davy and PJ talk about the role of our designers on the ground, we call them our ambassadors. These good eggs not only inform our day-to-day product improvements, but help keep up informed across the org.
Ep 84: Design Systems Interviewing w/ Chela
2025/08/15
Davy with friend of the program, Chela Giraldo talk about their recent experiences looking for a new design systems, and the struggles with developing the "design system portfolio" that can tell our unique stories.
Chela has a recent post about it, which you should check out on Design System Collective.
Ep 83: Design Systems Education
2025/07/28
Davy and PJ discuss the challenges and strategies for design system training, especially when it comes to Figma. We explore the line between providing direct tool training and focusing on how the design system integrates with those tools.
Ep 82: Local Product Systems
2025/07/10
Davy talks about what he's seen with the popularity around (local) product systems and how you can may want to adoption via providing just some design system team support. PJ ends the convo with the lighter weight approach of supporting templates in code and design.
Ep 81: Disagreements and Alignment
2025/06/19
Another takeaway from our cross-functional discussions, how do design system team members handle disagreements with consumers, or even our own teammates?
Ep 80: Building Single Use Figma Plugins
2025/06/04
Davy and PJ talk dive into designers building helpers and plugins to support more specialized design system maintainer workflows, and the beauty of unblocking ourselves.
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Robyn V. Smith 2022/07/30
Honest, relatable and thoughtful!
Nothing like tuning into an informal yet passionate ongoing conversation about design systems; especially when its between two kind hearted design lea...
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