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4.9from
This podcast has
81 episodes
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No
Date created
2022/01/28
Latest episode
2026/06/04
Average duration
56 min.
Release period
17 days
Description
Join pastors Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller as they invite leaders to think out loud together about the challenges and opportunities of leading a church in a rapidly changing world. In each episode, they will have a conversation about church leadership and the challenges pastors are facing. Then, they’ll share a conversation with a pastor, church leader, thinker or theologian about the health of the pastor, the state of the church and what it looks like to love well and lead faithfully.
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75 | Ger Jones on Evangelism that Listens First
2026/06/04
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In this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with Ger Jones to explore how pastors can help their churches recover a renewed vision for evangelism. Drawing from his ministry at Vintage Church in Los Angeles and his experience with Alpha, Ger shares how churches can create spaces where spiritually curious people feel loved, heard and safe to explore Jesus. Together, they discuss why evangelism must begin with empathy, how listening can soften hearts, and why clear gospel proclamation still matters. This conversation equips pastors to reach the lost with humility, courage and renewed compassion.
Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26. Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
74 | Esau McCaulley on Preaching Truth with Biblical Integrity
2026/05/08
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In this episode, Sharon Miller sits down with Esau McCaulley to explore what it means for pastors to preach truth with biblical integrity while navigating cultural tension. Drawing from Scripture, pastoral ministry, and Barna’s research, they discuss why pastors must resist being shaped by cultural narratives and instead help their people interpret reality through the lens of Scripture. Esau offers wisdom on preaching with courage, theological depth, and love for the congregation God has entrusted to you. This conversation equips pastors to lead faithfully when truth requires both conviction and care.
Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26. Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
73 | Stewarding Authority & Creating a Culture of Feedback
2026/04/16
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In this host-led episode, Rich Villodas, Sharon Miller, and Glenn Packiam explore what it means to steward authority well in pastoral leadership. From the subtle weight of a pastor’s words to the challenge of receiving honest feedback, they unpack how influence shapes church culture—often more than leaders realize.
Together, they discuss why feedback is so difficult to give (and receive), how insecurity can distort power dynamics, and what it looks like to create a culture where trust, honesty, and accountability can grow. They also share practical insights on building healthy leadership structures, inviting input from teams, and knowing when to lead with clarity and conviction.
Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26. Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
72 | Luke and Anna Hellebronth on Worship Leadership & Alignment
2026/03/26
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In this episode, Sharon Miller sits down with Glenn Packiam and worship pastors Luke and Anna Hellebronth to explore the relationship between senior pastors and worship leaders and why it matters for a healthy church. Drawing from their experience at Rockharbor Church, they discuss how trust, alignment, and shared vision shape both services and culture. They offer practical insight into planning, navigating creative tension, and partnering in leadership. This conversation equips pastors to build stronger, more aligned relationships with their worship leaders.
Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26. Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
71 | Jay Kim on AI, Tech, & Ministry
2026/03/12
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In this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with pastor and author Jay Kim to explore how church leaders can navigate technology and AI with wisdom and clarity. Drawing on ministry experience in Silicon Valley, Jay reflects on how digital tools can serve as a “front door” for connection while still pointing people toward embodied spiritual formation and community. Together they discuss how pastors can embrace innovation without losing the irreplaceable power of human presence in ministry.
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70 | Leading with Your Board of Elders
2026/02/26
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In this episode, Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller explore what it looks like to lead well with your board of elders. Drawing from personal experience and Barna insights, they discuss alignment, shared authority, healthy accountability and the spiritual rhythms that shape strong pastor–elder relationships. Whether you’re planting a church or strengthening an existing leadership team, this conversation offers practical wisdom for cultivating trust, clarity and resilience in church leadership.
For more related insights on church leadership and governance, download your copy of Barna's The State of Pastors Volume 2 report.Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26. Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page
69 | Edgar Sandoval on Leading Through Change & the Impact of Global Missions
2026/02/12
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In this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with Edgar Sandoval, president and CEO of World Vision, to explore what it means to lead through change while staying grounded in mission. Drawing from his experience navigating organizational disruption and global humanitarian challenges, Edgar reflects on steady leadership, spiritual resilience, and the practices that sustain leaders under pressure. The conversation also highlights the impact of global missions and how churches can partner in meaningful ways that foster dignity, agency, and lasting change.
Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26. Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
68 | Tyler and Kirsten Staton on Sustaining Spiritual Formation & Connection in Marriage
2026/01/29
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Rich Villodas sits down with Tyler and Kirsten Staton for a candid conversation about staying connected in marriage while navigating the demands and transitions of ministry life. They reflect on communication, emotional safety, and vulnerability between spouses, as well as the importance of recognizing and honoring one another’s spiritual gifts. The conversation also explores simple, sustainable approaches to prayer and what faithfulness looks like for couples walking through seasons of change.
Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26.Discover how today’s families are changing—and how the church can strengthen family resilience. Download your copy of Barna’s The State of Today’s Family report.For more related insights, explore The Friendship Gap in Pastoral Life on Barna’s website.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
67 | Gabe and Jeanette Salguero on Pastoring Families in a Changing Culture
2026/01/15
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In this episode, Rich Villodas joins pastors Gabe and Jeanette Salguero to discuss what it means to pastor families in today’s church with greater awareness and care. Drawing on decades of pastoral leadership experience and insights from Barna research, the conversation explores the changing realities shaping modern family life. Together, they examine how pastors and church leaders can lead with presence, listen well to families’ needs, and develop family ministries that reflect the lived experiences of the people they serve.
Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26Discover how today’s families are changing—and how the church can strengthen family resilience. Download your copy of Barna’s The State of Today’s Family report.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
66 | The Relationships of Today’s Pastors with David Kinnaman
2026/01/01
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In this episode, Rich Villodas, Glenn Packiam, and Sharon Hodde Miller join Barna CEO David Kinnaman to unpack new research on pastoral relationships. The conversation explores the tension between strong marriages and relational loneliness, and why friendship, spiritual direction, and community are essential for long-term pastoral resilience.
Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26Get your own copy of new Barna report, The Relationships of Today's Pastors.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
65 | Bryan Loritts on the Future of Preaching
2025/12/11
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Sharon Hodde Miller sits down with Bryan Loritts to discuss the future of preaching and why knowing your congregation is essential for faithful communication. They talk about navigating justice topics with biblical grounding, speaking into cultural pressure with integrity, and maintaining credibility in a skeptical age. Bryan also weighs in on the opportunities and limits of AI in sermon preparation.
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64 | Discipling Your Church in Generosity
2025/11/27
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Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas, and Sharon Hodde Miller explore how pastors can disciple their churches toward worshipful, year-round generosity rooted in trust and vision. Framed by Barna research, they discuss how to cultivate healthy giving cultures, build trust with congregants, and wisely guide churches through year-end giving seasons and large capital campaigns.
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63 | Jenni Catron on Leading & Sustaining a Healthy Staff Culture
2025/11/13
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In this episode, Sharon sits down with leadership coach Jenni Catron (founder of the 4Sight Group) to discuss what it takes to cultivate and sustain a thriving church staff culture. Together, they unpack how trust, clarity, and intentional systems help teams flourish, while reminding leaders that every role in the church is mission critical. Jenni offers practical wisdom for building trust through character and competency, creating healthy feedback rhythms, and stewarding the sacred responsibility of leading others well.
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62 | The Surprising Shift in Church Attendance – with David Kinnaman & Ashley LaLonde
2025/10/31
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Barna’s newest research reveals a stunning reversal: for the first time in decades, men are attending church more than women. Host Rich Villodas sits down with David Kinnaman and Ashley LaLonde from Barna to unpack what’s driving this shift and what it means for pastors and leaders. From purity culture to politics, Gen Z to single moms, this conversation offers both empathy and practical insight for churches navigating today’s changing spiritual landscape.
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61 | Pastoring in Polarized Times
2025/10/16
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In this episode of The Resilient Pastor Podcast, Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas, and Sharon Hodde Miller discuss how pastors can lead with wisdom and calm in polarized times. Drawing from Barna research and their own pastoral experiences, they explore what it means to be a non-anxious presence, when to speak (and when to stay silent), and how to shepherd a politically diverse congregation with humility, prayer, and conviction.
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Ouchitnowork 2023/03/13
Perspective is EVERYTHING!
It’s been rare, in my experience, to be able to find a pastor so young who is packed with wisdom like Glenn. Yes, he’s educated. Yes, he grew up abroa...
B Farley 2022/10/13
Great Encouragement
It’s not as glitzy or catchy as other podcasts, but it is not trying to be. Whereas other podcasts are using gimmicks to catch your attention so that ...
Ray Hylton 2022/05/07
A podcast that understands pastoral challenges
Thank for bringing your message to pastors around the world. Even before Covid-19, we have struggled to navigate leading God’s people and ourselves. E...
chadpayne 2022/03/14
Vital Resource
I have appreciated Dr. Glen Packiam’s ministry for years, so I was excited to learn about this podcast. Wow, does it ever deliver! This is a vital res...
chrismissions 2022/02/14
So grateful for this resource for pastors
So grateful for this podcast that I pray is a resource and beacon of hope and encouragement for many many pastors
Lish Wilson 2022/02/10
Not Alone
The Covid season is one where I’ve questioned if I’m able to be in a role as Pastor much longer. The first interview helped me see I’m not alone and ...