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Did O.J. Simpson have an accomplice? Diane Dimond had covered the case for decades — but Jim Clemente’s analysis stunned her Legendary investigative journalist Diane Dimond joins Tom Zenner to continue the investigation into whether O.J. Simpson acted alone in the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. Dimond covered the O.J. case extensively for Hard Copy and spent years reporting from inside one of the biggest crime stories in American history. In this episode, she reacts to former FBI profiler Jim Clemente’s reconstruction of the Bundy crime scene, the possibility that another person was involved in Ron Goldman’s attack, Dr. Henry Lee’s reported concerns about a second assailant, and what investigators and prosecutors may have known. Was there a second person at Bundy? And if so — who was it? Diane also discusses her extraordinary investigative career and her years-long investigation into abuses within America’s guardianship and conservatorship system. 📕 Buy Diane Dimond’s book, We’re Here to Help: When Guardianship Goes Wrong: https://dianedimond.com/books/were-he... Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

O.J. Simpson wasn’t alone at Bundy — according to former FBI profiler Jim Clemente. In this explosive TZ Scandal special, Clemente joins Tom Zenner and Kato Kaelin to walk through the forensic evidence that led him to conclude there is a “very high probability” two people were involved in the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. Clemente explains why he believes a second person was at Bundy, what that person may have been there to do, how Ron Goldman’s unexpected arrival may have changed everything — and whether Clemente believes he knows who the second person was. In this episode: Why Clemente believes the evidence points to more than one person at BundyThe forensic details surrounding Ron Goldman that Clemente says are consistent with two people being involvedHow world-renowned forensic scientist Dr. Henry Lee examined the evidence and, according to Clemente, told authorities the murders did not appear to be the work of one personWhy Clemente believes the second person may have been brought to Bundy for a specific purposeHow the unexpected arrival of Ron Goldman may have changed that person’s roleThe new detail from Kato Kaelin that Clemente says dramatically strengthened his theory about O.J.’s movements and attempted alibiThe profile of the type of person Clemente believes could have accompanied O.J.And the question we finally put directly to him: Do you think you know who was with O.J.?Clemente’s answer: “I think I have a pretty good idea.” This is the O.J. Simpson conversation we have been working toward for eight months. WHO WAS WITH O.J.? Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

“I Hate You Bonnie.” For 40 years, the Golden State Killer (Joseph DeAngelo) screamed those words during his attacks. Now, the woman he was obsessed with—Bonnie Ueltzen—breaks her silence in this 50-minute world exclusive. From a gun pointed at her bedroom window to a "forced marriage" attempt in Reno, Bonnie reveals the chilling truth about the man she almost married—and the lifelong stalking she never knew was happening. No one has heard this full story before. SUPPORT BONNIE & VICTIMS (Phyllis's Garden):  Donate Now: https://www.phyllissgarden.com/indivi... Soft Interview Rooms: https://www.phyllissgarden.com/soft-i... Facebook Group:   / timetotellyourstory   SUBSCRIBE to TZ Scandal for Weekly Exclusives:    / @tzscandal   THE INVESTIGATION: Host Tom Zenner (TZ Scandal) and Bonnie Ueltzen deconstruct the 1970s engagement, the "Vietnam finger lie," and the moment she finally faced the monster in court. This is the missing piece of the Golden State Killer puzzle. SPECIAL THANKS TO: Jeff Powell for his assistance in this investigation and for lining up the guests! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

Why does Netflix turn killers into stars? With Monster: The Lizzie Borden Story dominating the conversation, Tom Zenner sits down with former L.A. County prosecutor and criminal defense attorney Joshua Ritter to examine how Netflix, Ryan Murphy and true-crime culture have changed the way we see Lizzie Borden, Jeffrey Dahmer, the Menendez Brothers and some of America’s most notorious killers. Josh has prosecuted serious criminals, defended people accused of murder and now analyzes the biggest cases in true crime. Together, Tom and Josh go inside the uncomfortable questions: Are killers born or made?  Does understanding a murderer make us more sympathetic to them? Has Hollywood glamorized people like Dahmer and the Menendez brothers? And what happens when a Netflix series becomes more powerful in the public mind than the actual courtroom verdict? The conversation also turns to Richard Ramirez, O.J. Simpson, Lindsay Clancy and Nancy Guthrie — including Tom revealing why new evidence has completely changed what he believes happened the night Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman were murdered. COMING NEXT on TZ Scandal: Did O.J. Simpson Have Help? OCTOBER 1.   Subscribe and turn on notifications. You do not want to miss it. Watch Joshua Ritter on Courtroom Confidential: Courtroom Confidential on YouTube SUBSCRIBE to TZ Scandal with Tom Zenner for deep-dive true crime investigations, exclusive interviews and new episodes. #LizzieBorden #NetflixMonster #JeffreyDahmer #MenendezBrothers #TrueCrime #RyanMurphy #JoshuaRitter #TZScandal Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

O.J. Simpson spent years trying to convince America that he could still be charming, funny and famous. Then came Juiced — the bizarre prank show that put O.J. back in front of cameras, in ridiculous disguises, humiliating unsuspecting people, joking about the white Bronco, drinking, chasing attention and desperately trying to reinvent himself. Now, the new Investigation Discovery docuseries O.J. Unseen: Exploitation of Evil has reopened that disturbing chapter — and the footage makes O.J. look even more sick, twisted and fame-obsessed than many people realized. In this episode of TZ Scandal, Tom Zenner is joined by former TMZ personality Dax Holt to break down the insanity of Juiced, the psychology of O.J.’s failed comeback, his obsession with celebrity, what happens when the cameras keep rolling after the “performance” ends, and whether a show this outrageous might actually become a viral hit if it were made today. We also examine: O.J.’s bizarre disguises and mean-spirited pranks The infamous white Bronco jokes His drinking during production Why producers may have hoped he would say something explosive on camera O.J.’s desperate attempt to become “O.J. the celebrity” again How fame, scandal and outrage feed the media machine Why Juiced may have exposed more about O.J. than he ever intended Dax also shares his perspective from 11 years at TMZ, where he saw firsthand how celebrities behave on-camera versus behind the scenes. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

Bryan Kohberger is now facing a brutal reality behind bars — and according to former prison warden Lenard Vare, his life can be threatened virtually every day inside prison. In this episode of TZ Scandal, Tom Zenner sits down with Lenard Vare to break down what prison life may really look like for Bryan Kohberger: fear, isolation, inmate threats, prison hierarchy, protective custody, violence, contraband, sexual assault, and the unwritten rules that determine who survives behind bars. Vare spent decades inside the correctional system, including serving as a Nevada prison warden, and explains why notorious inmates can become instant targets the moment they enter prison. We also examine what happened to other famous prisoners and killers, including Chris Watts, O.J. Simpson, Richard Ramirez and Jeffrey Dahmer — and why fame inside prison can make someone more powerful, more protected… or more vulnerable. Could Bryan Kohberger already be living a prison nightmare far worse than he ever expected? Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

Rob Reiner and his wife Michele were murdered inside their Brentwood home. Their son, Nick Reiner, is charged with killing them — and now the case has taken an even darker turn with a grand jury allegation that he was “lying in wait.” Retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon, who spent 27 years in law enforcement and supervised homicide investigations, joins Tom Zenner to break down what “lying in wait” could reveal about the prosecution’s case — and why Bill calls it “premeditation times ten.” What evidence could investigators have uncovered months after the murders? We examine the potential importance of Nick Reiner’s phone, text messages, location data, security cameras, the timeline surrounding Conan O’Brien’s holiday party, what happened after the killings, and what Nick’s own siblings may have told the grand jury. We also dig into the extraordinary family and legal battle over Nick Reiner’s trust fund, his current public defender, and whether access to millions of dollars could bring high-profile defense attorney Alan Jackson back into the case. Was Rob Reiner ambushed inside his own home? And what do prosecutors know that the public still doesn’t?  Bill Cannon hosts Police Off The Cuff, one of YouTube’s leading law-enforcement and true-crime shows. Watch and subscribe here: Police Off The Cuff on YouTube Subscribe to TZ Scandal for major true-crime cases, famous criminals, Hollywood scandals and firsthand law-enforcement analysis. #RobReiner #NickReiner #TrueCrime Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

What REALLY happened at O.J. Simpson’s Rockingham estate when the white Bronco finally arrived? Former LAPD officer *Spencer Marks was there* on June 17, 1994 — and in this episode of TZ Scandal, he takes Tom Zenner inside the police operation unfolding beyond the television cameras during the final moments of the infamous O.J. Simpson Bronco chase. Marks describes arriving at Rockingham before the chaos, watching LAPD SWAT move into position, and personally helping camouflage a tactical sniper by placing ivy into his ghillie suit. According to Marks, the concealed marksman was positioned inside the property with an MP5 and could have been only *15–20 feet from O.J. Simpson* if the situation turned violent. Spencer also reveals what police were preparing for as O.J. approached Rockingham with a gun, why he believed the night could end in a shootout or suicide-by-cop, what happened when the Bronco finally pulled in, and why he felt O.J. received preferential treatment because of his celebrity status. Marks was also one of the LAPD officers who responded to Nicole Brown Simpson’s 1993 911 call after O.J. kicked in her French doors. He recalls Nicole telling him she believed O.J. would one day murder her — a statement that took on chilling significance after the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. This is the O.J. Simpson Bronco chase from the perspective of a police officer who was *actually standing at Rockingham when history unfolded.* *GET SPENCER MARKS’ BOOK — *Blue Knights, Black Knights*:* https://shorturl.at/ObPXB Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

How did Marcia Clark blow the O.J. Simpson trial despite the blood evidence, DNA, motive, Bronco chase—and a critical eyewitness the jury never heard? Tom Zenner and Kato Kaelin are joined by Jill Shively, who says she encountered O.J. Simpson driving his white Bronco near Bundy on the night Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman were murdered. Shively reveals what happened during her private meetings with Marcia Clark, why a $5,000 payment from Hard Copy became a major flashpoint, and why the prosecution ultimately kept her off the witness stand. This episode exposes the prosecution’s biggest failures in the Trial of the Century: • Choosing a jury its own research warned against • Refusing to call Jill Shively • Allowing O.J. Simpson to try on the glove • Failing to fully use the Bronco chase • Losing control of the DNA evidence • Letting Mark Fuhrman become a courtroom catastrophe • Allowing Johnny Cochran to dominate the narrative • Failing to keep Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman at the center of the case Plus, TZ Scandal announces DID O.J. HAVE HELP?—a three-part August investigation featuring former FBI profiler Jim Clemente, Tom Lange, Kato Kaelin and explosive new questions about what happened during the Bronco chase. Marcia Clark is officially invited to join TZ Scandal and tell her side of the story. Subscribe to TZ Scandal for exclusive O.J. Simpson witnesses, original reporting and true-crime investigations no other channel can replicate. #OJSimpson #MarciaClark #TrueCrime Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

Gil Carrillo helped catch Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker. But the hunt nearly cost him his family. In this explosive true crime interview, Tom Zenner and Kato Kaelin sit down with legendary former Los Angeles County Sheriff’s homicide detective Gil Carrillo, one of the investigators who hunted and arrested Richard Ramirez. The Night Stalker terrorized Los Angeles and Southern California with a brutal series of murders, sexual assaults and home invasions. While the public locked its doors and feared where Ramirez might strike next, Carrillo worked around the clock to identify him, track him down and stop the killing. But the case did not stay at the office. Gil reveals how the Night Stalker investigation consumed his life, changed his personality and pushed his marriage toward divorce. He describes apologizing to his wife decades later, the fear his family lived with and the terrifying morning she woke their children, packed their belongings and fled the house while Ramirez was still free. Carrillo also takes Tom and Kato inside: • The evidence that connected Richard Ramirez’s crimes • Why other investigators initially doubted his theory • The Night Stalker’s kill kit and blood-covered clothing • His encounters and conversations with Ramirez • The FBI profiling mistake that nearly delayed the investigation • The survivors Gil Carrillo never forgot • Why the Night Stalker remains part of his life more than 40 years later Known to millions from the Netflix Night Stalker documentary series, Gil Carrillo tells the deeply personal story behind one of America’s most infamous serial-killer investigations. This is not another Richard Ramirez recap. This is the story of the detective who helped catch the Night Stalker—and the price his wife and children paid while he hunted a monster. Featuring: Gil Carrillo, Tom Zenner and Kato Kaelin. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

L.A. news didn’t just cover murder — it sold it as must-see TV. Before TMZ, O.J., Kato Kaelin, Harvey Levin, Celebrity Justice, paid access, fake tips, and newsroom wars helped create the celebrity-crime machine that turned tragedy into ratings gold. In this episode of TZ Scandal, Tom Zenner and Kato Kaelin sit down with producer, reporter, author, and true-crime storyteller Rob Rosen to pull back the curtain on the wild era of 1990s Los Angeles celebrity crime coverage. Rob worked inside the L.A. newsroom world during the O.J. Simpson case, later worked in the Celebrity Justice universe connected to Harvey Levin before TMZ became a media empire, and went on to create and produce major true-crime television. This conversation goes inside the machinery behind the headlines: • How L.A. newsrooms fought for O.J. scoops • Why Kato Kaelin became “the get” • The dirty secret behind paying for access • Harvey Levin’s relentless O.J. coverage before TMZ • How Michael Jackson coverage changed newsroom priorities • Why celebrity crime became ratings gold • Fake tips, bad leads, checkbook journalism, and courtroom media warfare • How the scandal machine evolved into today’s true-crime culture This is not another basic O.J. recap. This is about the era that turned celebrity crime into entertainment. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

APD Detective Tom Lange opens his darkest files from some of the most infamous cases in Los Angeles true crime history — the O.J. Simpson investigation, the Wonderland Murders, and the serial killer era that terrorized Southern California. In this TZ Scandal special, Tom Zenner and Kato Kaelin revisit the most powerful Tom Lange moments from our archive, bringing viewers inside the investigations, evidence, crime scenes, and decisions that shaped modern true crime. Lange breaks down what detectives saw at Rockingham during the O.J. Simpson case, why the bloody glove, footprint evidence, and blood evidence mattered, and what really happened as the Bronco chase unfolded while O.J. was on the phone with Lange. He also takes us inside the Wonderland Murders, one of the most brutal homicide scenes in Hollywood history, involving Eddie Nash, John Holmes, the Wonderland Gang, and a crime scene that forced detectives to document evidence in a way that had rarely been done before. Then Lange opens up about the darker side of LAPD homicide work: serial killers in Los Angeles and Southern California, the Toolbox Killers, the Skid Row Stabber, the Freeway Killer cases, agency communication failures, and what it takes for a detective to walk into crime scenes most people could never handle. This is true crime from inside the files — told by one of the LAPD detectives who was actually there. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

Mackenzie Shirilla. Taylor Parker. Netflix true crime. Prison princesses? In this episode of TZ Scandal, Tom Zenner and Kato Kaelin break down the disturbing question behind Netflix’s true-crime machine: are documentaries exposing evil — or turning convicted killers into stars?  Mackenzie Shirilla is featured in Netflix’s The Crash, after being convicted in the deaths of Dominic Russo and Davion Flanagan. The documentary pulled viewers into Shirilla’s world — her family, her emotions, her defense, and the debate over whether Netflix made her look sympathetic. Taylor Parker is the subject of Netflix’s Maternal Instinct. Parker faked a pregnancy for months, murdered pregnant 21-year-old Reagan Simmons-Hancock, and tried to pass the baby off as her own. Unlike The Crash, Maternal Instinct focuses heavily on the victims, the deception, the fake pregnancy, the prison calls, and the people still shattered by Parker’s crime. So why did Netflix frame Mackenzie Shirilla and Taylor Parker so differently? And why do so many true-crime stories make the accused — not the victims — feel like the main character? Tom Zenner and Kato Kaelin examine Mackenzie Shirilla, Taylor Parker, Netflix true crime, female killers, victim erasure, prison complaints, documentary ethics, media manipulation, and the growing business of turning horrific crimes into streaming entertainment. Kato also connects today’s Netflix true-crime machine to the original modern crime-media circus: O.J. Simpson. Before Netflix documentaries, TikTok trials, true-crime podcasts, and viral crime series, the O.J. Simpson case showed America how a murder trial could become a media universe where the accused, the lawyers, the witnesses, the spectacle, and the side characters could overshadow the victims. Kato Kaelin lived through that machine firsthand. This episode covers: Mackenzie Shirilla, Taylor Parker, Netflix The Crash, Netflix Maternal Instinct, Reagan Simmons-Hancock, Dominic Russo, Davion Flanagan, female killers, prison princesses, true-crime documentaries, victim-centered storytelling, documentary ethics, prison interviews, media manipulation, O.J. Simpson, Nicole Brown Simpson, Ron Goldman, Kato Kaelin, and the true-crime industry. This episode is independent commentary, critique, and news analysis. TZ Scandal is not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Netflix. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

Kato Kaelin still wonders if one small decision changed the O.J. Simpson timeline forever. On the night of June 12, 1994, before the Bronco chase, before the trial of the century, before the world knew his name, Kato Kaelin was living in O.J. Simpson’s Rockingham guest house. He heard the infamous thumps. He saw the limo arrive. He remembers the missing bag. And he still replays the McDonald’s run — the moment he says may have disrupted the timeline of that night. In this explosive TZ Scandal episode, Tom Zenner sits down with Kato Kaelin for a raw, first-person walk through the O.J. Simpson saga from the one man who was not watching history on television — he was living inside it. Kato revisits the McDonald’s drive-thru trip in O.J.’s Bentley, the strange pause before O.J. let him come along, the moment O.J. later tried to place them eating together in the kitchen, the missing bag he was told not to touch, the Allan Park limo timeline, the Bronco chase that swallowed the NBA Finals, the witness who got benched, Diane Dimond’s shocking account of the unguarded Bundy crime scene, and the surreal fact that Nicole Brown Simpson’s dog was named Kato. This is not another generic O.J. recap. This is Kato Kaelin walking back through the details only he can explain — the strange, haunting, unforgettable moments from the case that still grips America more than three decades later. O.J. Simpson was acquitted in his criminal trial. This episode discusses witness accounts, public reporting, trial history, personal memories, and the cultural impact of the case. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

Thirty-two years ago, the LAPD abandoned the most infamous crime scene in American history. Veteran investigative reporter Diane Dimond slipped under the police tape at the O.J. Simpson Bundy Drive crime scene, and what she saw inside changes everything. In this explosive 32-year anniversary special of TZ Scandal, Tom Zenner and Kato Kaelin are joined by Diane Dimond (star of Netflix’s Michael Jackson: The Verdict) to expose the darkest, unguarded secrets of the trial of the century. Dimond reveals her unauthorized access to Nicole Brown Simpson’s condo on the morning of June 13, 1994, uncovering chilling details the LAPD left completely unattended. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.