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Chasing Brighter Podcast: Choosing Real Over Perfect

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2022/06/06
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2026/09/28
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17 min.
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**2024 PODCAST OF THE YEAR WINNER: BEST FEMALE HOSTED PODCAST** Welcome to the Chasing Brighter podcast;  created as a guide to living brighter, more connected and real. Because real is the new perfect.  Are you ready to embrace the next chapter of your life with confidence and excitement? Whether you’re looking to reinvent your career, improve your health, deepen your relationships, or find your true purpose, Chasing Brighter is here to help. Join us each week as we bring you inspiring stories, expert interviews, and actionable tips to help you navigate the challenges and opportunities of midlife. From wellness and personal growth to connection and beyond, we’ve got you covered.

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Superwoman Diaries #4: Car Loop Chaos & the Case for Just Being a Good Human
2026/09/28
Superwoman Diaries #4: Car Loop Chaos & the Case for Just Being a Good Human It's 99 degrees, school is back in session, and the drop-off line has become a test of character. In this Superwoman Diaries episode, Jessica and Kelly vent about morning traffic, dog walkers who don't know the school schedule, and the car loop parents who turn a two-second drop-off into a full farewell ceremony. What starts as a rant turns into a real conversation about what we owe each other: American individualism versus community, what Lois Lowry's The Giver shows about rule-following societies, and whether kindness needs a religious label at all. Jessica and Kelly land on something simple: be a good human, for whatever reason works for you. Then they get honest about how hard that is when you're running late and someone cuts you off. In This Episode (00:05) Fall is coming, but first, a 99-degree morning and a school run blocked by walkers, bikers, and dog owners (01:50) The $750 school bus fine and how having kids changes how you see school zones (03:07) Car loop etiquette: unclip, backpack in lap, tuck and roll (04:31) Kelly on being considerate as a member of your community (05:19) Americans and individualism, plus reading The Giver with Giovanni (07:37) Kindness, faith, and whether "treat your neighbor as yourself" belongs to any one religion (11:37) Greek mythology, parables, and the stories that shape our moral code (13:17) Staying kind in traffic, road rage, and choosing compassion over "have the day you deserve" (15:18) Kelly's new habit of shopping close to home because her time matters (more on this next Superwoman Diaries) (16:11) Nobody's perfect, and this month's freebie Key Takeaways Being considerate is a shared responsibility. If you know you'll need extra time, whether in the drop-off line or on a busy road, plan for it so you don't slow everyone else down. You don't need a specific faith to live by a moral code. Many traditions teach the same basic idea: be kind and look out for other people. When someone's behavior sets you off, try telling yourself a more compassionate story about what might be happening in their life. Nobody gets this right all the time. Jessica and Kelly are still working on it too. Resources Mentioned The Giver by Lois Lowry The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz Brené Brown's books Tara Brach's podcast This Month's Freebie: The One Thing September's free download is The One Thing. Sign up for the Chasing Brighter newsletter to get it: https://chasingbrighter.com/newsletter/ Keywords & Search Terms Superwoman Diaries, Chasing Brighter podcast, school drop-off, car loop, carpool line, back to school, school zone traffic, moms podcast, sister podcast, being considerate, community, kindness, be a good human, individualism, The Giver, Lois Lowry, reading with kids, faith and morality, morals without religion, Greek mythology, Prometheus, The Four Agreements, Brené Brown, Tara Brach, road rage, compassion, traffic, Las Vegas traffic, shopping local, valuing your time, nobody's perfect, Becoming Not Arriving, real over perfect, women's podcast, personal development Connect With Us Website: chasingbrighter.com Instagram: @chasingbrighter TikTok: @chasingbrighter Facebook: @chasingbrighter YouTube: @chasingbrighter Newsletter: Sign up here A few things to check before you publish: I numbered this episode #4 based on the file name. Change it if your episode numbering is different. The transcript says "Tara Brock." I'm assuming you meant Tara Brach. I named Giovanni in the timestamps because you said his name on air. If you'd rather keep the kids' names out of the notes, change it to "reading The Giver with her son."
Let's Get Honest: What We've Been Waiting to Begin
2026/09/24
Let's Get Honest: What We've Been Waiting to Begin Chasing Brighter | Season 6: Becoming, Not Arriving | September 24 All September long, we've been talking about beginnings: self-sabotage, the stories we tell ourselves, and the "not yet" that keeps us stuck. To close out the month, Jessica and Kelly get honest in a free-flowing conversation. Instead of focusing on what they haven't done, they share what they're actually doing to begin, messy parts included. Jessica opens up about wanting to hire a stylist as her body has changed in her 40s and through her 47-pound weight loss journey. She names the fears that kept her stuck (What will it cost? Will they judge my closet? Will they make me buy more?) and shares the small step she took instead: using AI as a collaborative style assistant to build weekly outfit inspiration from the clothes she already owns. Kelly talks about her perfectionism around creating social media content, the videos she films but never posts, and how she's using simple coaching steps to start showing up anyway. The sisters also get real about AI itself: its limits, its "glazing," why encouragement still matters, and why it's a tool and an assistant, not a replacement for human connection, friendship, or mental health support. In this episode, we talk about: A simple three-step template for beginning: name what you want, name your fear, and choose one small step Why the hardest part is often not knowing what you're waiting for in the first place Waiting for perfect conditions, credentials, or expertise before giving yourself permission to start Jessica's journey toward a capsule wardrobe and feeling good in the clothes she already has Kelly's perfectionism around posting content, and taking baby steps to put herself out there Using AI as a collaborator and assistant, including its funny flaws and real limitations Why human connection, community, and real relationships still come first Other ways to find your first step: talking to a friend, asking someone who's doing what you want to do, podcasts, YouTube, and books Why small matters, messy counts, and beginning requires you to be real, not brave Episode Highlights: 00:11 Closing out September by getting honest about what we're doing 01:54 Flipping the script: talking about what we are doing 03:01 Jessica names her goal (hiring a stylist) and the fears behind it 04:32 Kelly on using AI as a guided conversation, not a set of orders 06:41 The template: name what you want, name your fear, choose a small step 07:22 Kelly's perfectionism around social media content 10:16 Maintaining our humanity while using AI as a tool 12:29 Figuring out what you're actually waiting for 13:05 Closing September: start where you are, not where you think you need to be Free Resource: The One Thing Starter Worksheet If you've been sitting with your own "not yet" all month, this short, simple worksheet will help you name what you want, name the fear, and take your next small step. Download the One Thing Starter Worksheet or get it by signing up for our newsletter at chasingbrighter.com. Coming in October: Relationships. Trust us, it's worth showing up for. self-sabotage, how to start something new, fear of starting, perfectionism, real over perfect, waiting for the right time, overcoming procrastination, small steps, bite-sized goals, women's personal development, midlife women, body changes in your 40s, weight loss journey, capsule wardrobe, personal stylist, AI style assistant, using ChatGPT for fashion, AI for personal growth, social media anxiety, content creation fear, fear of judgment, becoming not arriving, sisters podcast, Chasing Brighter podcast, self-growth podcast for women Connect With Us Website: chasingbrighter.com Instagram: @chasingbrighter TikTok: @chasingbrighter Facebook: @chasingbrighter YouTube: @chasingbrighter Newsletter: Sign up here Until next time, keep chasing brighter. 💚
Super Woman Diaries #3: Back to School: Then vs. Now (and Learning to Let Go)
2026/09/21
Back to school looks nothing like it did when we were kids. Jessica and Kelly compare the back-to-school shopping of their childhoods (the planned outfits, the double socks, the once-a-year wardrobe refresh) with what it looks like now: uniforms, reused backpacks, digital textbooks, and teenagers who carry their entire lives around because nobody uses lockers. Then the conversation gets real. They talk about the mental load of the school year, why middle school is such a big transition, how much of it is really the "noise" around the coursework, and what it means to let your kids figure things out without tying their achievements to your worthiness. If you're a parent trying to be more chill than your instincts allow, this one's for you. In This Episode Back-to-school shopping memories from the '90s, and how different it feels today Why kids' wardrobes, and parents' spending, have changed Reusing supplies instead of replacing everything: Kelly shares reporting that 28% of parents plan to reuse last year's items The financial strain of back-to-school season Why backpacks are the size of a body when lockers go unused The textbook maze: ebooks, physical books, and being "analog learners" Supply lists that never get used (and the supplies kids won't let you remove) Raising kids who follow the rules when you're the "efficiency over rules" type Trying to be "chill" about grades, and where that gets hard Why middle school is a lot: new teachers, hormones, and executive function expectations Planners, calendars, and communication: what helps kids stay on top of assignments Transparency vs. "tricking" students: why knowing what's coming isn't cheating Seeing the teacher's side while still advocating from the parent side Letting go of micromanaging school and keeping the relationship at the center Timestamps (approximate) 00:05 – Welcome and why back to school feels so different now 00:24 – Back-to-school shopping memories: the outfits, the socks, the stirrup pants 02:30 – Today's version: uniforms, one pair of shoes, and teens with opinions on fashion 05:00 – Why is it different? Cost, quality, and where clothes come from 05:39 – Reusing supplies and the financial strain of the season 06:40 – Backpacks, binders, and the no-lockers reality 07:57 – Textbooks, ebooks, and analog learners 10:26 – The supply inventory: "Are you using this?" 12:03 – Rule followers, blending in, and efficiency over rules 13:00 – The grind of the school year and trying to be chill about grades 15:20 – Letting kids navigate it themselves: achievement isn't worthiness 17:40 – The middle school transition and the "noise" around coursework 19:04 – Planners, teacher communication, and executive function 20:23 – Syllabi, transparency, and the "real world" 22:36 – The teacher's perspective and staying curious 23:40 – Letting go of micromanaging, plus what's next Reflection Questions What did back to school mean to you as a kid, and how does that shape the way you approach it as an adult? Where are you doing something out of habit that isn't actually serving you or your family? What would it look like to give the people you love space to figure something out, even when you can see the bumps coming? How do you separate someone else's achievements from your own sense of worth? Freebie of the Month Grab this month's The One Thing worksheet by signing up for the newsletter at chasingbrighter.com. Join the Conversation How are you doing with back to school? Send us a DM on Instagram at @chasingbrighter and tell us what's working, what isn't, and where you're trying to let go. Keywords & Search Terms back to school, back to school stress, back to school shopping, back to school then vs now, parenting middle schoolers, sixth grade transition, middle school parenting, executive function in kids, letting go as a parent, micromanaging school, parenting teens, parenting tweens, mom life, mental load, working moms, sisters podcast, women's podcast, lockers, backpacks, school supplies, reusing school supplies, back to school budget, ebooks vs textbooks, teacher communication, planners and organization, grades and worthiness, achievement and worthiness, raising independent kids, intrinsic motivation, rule followers, 90s nostalgia, Superwoman Diaries, Chasing Brighter, Becoming Not Arriving, personal development for women, self-care, lively living, connection Connect With Us Website: chasingbrighter.com Instagram: @chasingbrighter TikTok: @chasingbrighter Facebook: @chasingbrighter YouTube: @chasingbrighter Newsletter signup: chasingbrighter.com/newsletter
High Standards or Self-Sabotage: How to Tell the Difference
2026/09/17
Do you have high standards, or are you sabotaging yourself and calling it perfectionism? This week Jessica and Kelly dig into the sneaky ways perfectionism disguises itself as a virtue — and why it can be one of the most sophisticated ways we keep ourselves safe. They unpack the real clinical difference between standards that move you forward and self-sabotage that quietly keeps you stuck, share personal examples (hello, unposted Instagram drafts), and offer a few honest questions to help you tell which one you're actually dealing with. In This Episode Why "having high standards" can be a more socially acceptable cover story for perfectionism The clinical distinction that matters most: high standards move you toward something, while self-sabotage keeps you from it — even though they can look identical on the surface How Carol Dweck's research on praise, mindset, and risk-aversion shows up in adult perfectionism Socially prescribed perfectionism — when the standard feels like it's coming from outside you — and why it's the version that does the most damage Two questions to ask yourself when you're not sure which one you're facing: Is the bar specific, or does it keep moving? Genuine standards have a finish line; perfectionism doesn't, because the point is never completion. Does "not good enough yet" protect you from a specific fear? If the fear is about being seen, judged, or found out, it's a vulnerability problem — not a quality problem. Why naming the fear ("name it to tame it") shrinks it, and how avoidance makes it bigger than it actually is A reminder that this isn't about perfectionism being bad — caring about how things turn out isn't the problem; it's about getting curious about what the pattern is protecting you from Brighter Moves Kelly's move: Name one thing you've been refining past the point of readiness. Ask yourself honestly — is this next round of changes making it better, or are you just not ready to let it be seen? You don't have to change anything yet. Just notice. Jessica's move: Sit with this question this week — what would I finish or share if I knew that scared and good enough could coexist? Because they can. You don't need to feel calm to be ready. This Month's Freebie The One Thing Starter worksheet — a simple, no-pressure tool to help you name the one thing you've been putting off and take the one small step toward it. Grab it when you sign up for our newsletter at chasingbrighter.com. Coming Up Next Week No framework, no teaching — Jessica and Kelly sit down and get honest about what they've each personally been putting off, including the things they haven't said out loud yet. Connect With Us Website: chasingbrighter.com Instagram: @chasingbrighter TikTok: @chasingbrighter Facebook: @chasingbrighter YouTube: @chasingbrighter Newsletter: Sign up here   perfectionism, self-sabotage, high standards vs perfectionism, socially prescribed perfectionism, Carol Dweck mindset, fixed mindset vs growth mindset, fear of judgment, imposter syndrome, procrastination, avoidance, anxiety, name it to tame it, vulnerability, self-worth, achievement and worthiness, women and confidence, social media perfectionism, fear of being seen, personal growth, mental health podcast, Chasing Brighter, Real Over Perfect, sisters podcast
Super Woman Diaries #2: "2026 Is the New 2016" — Remembering Who We Were vs. Who We're Becoming
2026/09/14
Jessica and Kelly dig into the viral "2026 is the new 2016" trend — the exercise of looking back a decade and asking who you were then, what you miss, and what you don't. The conversation quickly turns into a heart-to-heart about parenting through transitions: Kelly reflecting on missing her kids' toddler years, and Jessica processing the very fresh experience of dropping her oldest daughter, Gabby, off at college. They talk through the emotional whiplash of watching a child thrive without you, the mental load that shifts (and doesn't) once a kid leaves home, and how far "away at school" really feels in 2026 versus a generation ago. What We Talk About The "2016 vs. now" trend and why picturing a specific year is so hard to do without anchoring on your kids' ages Kelly's mixed feelings about missing her kids' younger years while not missing the exhaustion that came with them Jessica's take on grief as a recurring, transition-by-transition experience — not a one-time event Why going all-in on college visits, extended orientation, and getting to know the campus made the drop-off easier The behind-the-scenes of choosing the right-fit school, and how a five-day orientation builds fast bonding and retention How support systems (mentors, upperclassmen "hosts," roommates) ease the transition for freshmen The temptation to monitor kids via apps like Life360 — and choosing not to How the household mental load shifts when a "squeaky wheel" kid leaves versus a low-maintenance one Meal plans, Venmo cards, and DoorDash culture — how Gen Z's relationship with food and money differs from their parents' childhoods Why immersive campus culture (walkable, self-contained "mini worlds") shapes the college experience differently than it did a generation ago Reflection Questions What year would you pick if someone asked you "when do you wish you could go back to"? What does that answer say about what you actually miss? Is there a transition in your life right now that you're grieving even as you're also excited about it? Where are you holding onto more control (checking in, monitoring, managing) than you actually need to? Connect With Us 🌐 Website: chasingbrighter.com 📸 Instagram: @chasingbrighter 🎵 TikTok: @chasingbrighter 📘 Facebook: @chasingbrighter ▶️ YouTube: @chasingbrighter 💌 Get our free monthly resource — sign up for the newsletter: chasingbrighter.com/newsletter 2026 is the new 2016, sending kids to college, empty nest, college drop off, parenting transitions, letting go of your kids, college orientation, freshman year college, mental load parenting, Gen Z college life, meal plan college, Life360 parenting, empty nest grief, college move in day, sisters podcast, midlife motherhood, parenting older kids, college readiness, letting your teenager grow up, nostalgia trend, women's mental health podcast
The Credential Trap: Why We Keep Waiting to Feel Qualified
2026/09/10
Last week we talked about "I'm not ready yet" as fear dressed up as logic. This week, Jessica and Kelly pull on that thread further to unpack the credential trap — the pattern of adding one more certification, one more year of experience, one more thing to point to before you'll let yourself begin. It looks like ambition and diligence from the outside, but underneath it is often a single question: do I have the right to be here? Kelly shares her own story of pursuing (and ultimately not needing) her MBA and her PMP certification, and Jessica opens up about the moments in 21 years of clinical practice where she's felt the pull toward "just one more" credential — including EMDR certification — even when she knew it wasn't what she actually needed. Together they explore the real difference between preparation and permission-seeking, why this pattern is so deeply tied to how women are socialized, and why the research shows this isn't always "just" imposter syndrome — for many women, and especially women of color, the extra proof they're gathering is a rational response to systems that really do demand more of them. What We Cover The credential trap as its own specific pattern — distinct from procrastination Kelly's story with her MBA, the GMAT, and working alongside colleagues with and without advanced degrees Kelly's PMP certification journey and what she learned about not needing the piece of paper Reshma Saujani's framing: girls are taught to be perfect, boys are taught to be brave A KPMG finding that 75% of female executives report experiencing imposter syndrome, often coping by adding more credentials Jessica on 21 years in clinical practice, the pull toward EMDR certification, and choosing brainspotting instead The real test: is this new knowledge you don't have, or is it a delay? And who are you imagining will finally give you permission? A Harvard Business Review perspective pushing back on "just fix your imposter syndrome" — for many women, especially women of color, the extra preparation is a rational response to real bias, not just a mindset issue Preparation vs. permission-seeking: preparation moves you toward something; permission-seeking keeps you at a safe distance Brighter Moves Jessica: Instead of asking "Am I qualified enough?" ask "Am I curious enough? Am I committed enough? Do I care about this enough?" Qualifications get you in the room — commitment keeps you there. Kelly: Audit one thing you're waiting to finish before you start something else. Ask honestly: is this genuinely necessary, or is it a sophisticated way to stay safe? You don't have to act on the answer — just answer it. This Week's Freebie 📥 [Grab your free download here] — The One Thing Starter Worksheet: a simple, no-pressure tool to help you name the one thing you've been putting off and take one small step toward it. Coming Up Next Week Jessica and Kelly tackle perfectionism — but not in the way you'd expect. Most women who struggle with it don't identify as perfectionists; they identify as someone with "high standards." That reframe is the trap. Connect With Us 🌐 Website: chasingbrighter.com 📸 Instagram: @chasingbrighter 🎵 TikTok: @chasingbrighter 👍 Facebook: @chasingbrighter ▶️ YouTube: @chasingbrighter 📩 Newsletter signup credential trap, imposter syndrome, women and imposter syndrome, permission seeking vs preparation, overqualification, professional confidence, women in leadership, KPMG imposter syndrome study, Reshma Saujani, Harvard Business Review imposter syndrome, women of color and bias, MBA, PMP certification, EMDR certification, brainspotting, credentialism, self-doubt at work, career confidence, chasing brighter podcast, feeling qualified, waiting to start, fear of not being enough, workplace bias, systemic bias, procrastination and fear, one thing starter worksheet
Super Woman Diaries #1: How ChatGPT Became My Personal Stylist
2026/09/07
In this week's Superwoman Diaries, Jessica shares how she's been using ChatGPT as an unexpected style consultant on her weight loss journey. What started as a simple question — "how do I dress this changing body?" — turned into a full-blown "Jessica Style Playbook," complete with a closet audit, body-shape analysis, and outfit ratings. Kelly and Jessica dig into why understanding why something works on your body (not just that it does) is so much more useful than generic style rules, and how tools like this can replace — or at least prep you for — a stylist consultation. What We Talk About Jessica's "love affair" with using ChatGPT to analyze her body type, closet, and outfit photos Building a personalized "Jessica Style Playbook": color schemes, silhouettes, and a closet audit Discovering her body shape ("soft apple" with athletic shoulders) and what that means for fit Why a higher neckline, higher waistband, and structured double-fabric tops work better for her frame Getting outfit ratings and specific feedback (down to the neckline) from AI Comparing the AI experience to in-person stylists at Aritzia and Evereve How sizing inconsistency between brands complicates in-store shopping Kelly's take on Evereve's Trendsend box service and why in-store pickup gets you more options How bodies and style needs shift as we age — more structure, higher waistlines, more intentional fit Jessica's new favorite: a double-fabric Lululemon workout top she can't stop buying in every color Why feeling good in your clothes is directly tied to confidence Mentioned in This Episode ChatGPT — the AI tool Jessica used to build her style playbook Lululemon — for the double-fabric workout top Jessica is now obsessed with Aritzia — clothing store Jessica visited for a button-down shirt Evereve — stylist-supported clothing store, including their Trendsend box service This Month's Freebie The One Thing Starter Worksheet — a simple, no-pressure tool to help you name the one thing you've been putting off and take one step toward it. Get it, plus more free resources and the blog, at chasingbrighter.com. ChatGPT styling, AI personal stylist, weight loss journey, body confidence, dressing for your body type, soft apple body shape, capsule wardrobe, closet audit, wardrobe playbook, athletic shoulders, high waistband, structured tops, aging and style, Lululemon workout tops, Aritzia review, Evereve Trendsend, stylist vs AI, outfit confidence, sisters podcast, midlife style, Chasing Brighter
The Lie of "I'm Not Ready Yet"
2026/09/03
In this episode, they unpack why "I'm not ready yet" sounds responsible but is usually just fear in disguise, why readiness is a decision instead of a feeling, and how the question "Am I ready?" is a lot less useful than "Am I willing?" Jessica shares how she's built almost everything in her life — from her private practice to both podcasts — by starting before she felt ready, and Kelly gets honest about the goals she's been quietly putting off. What We Cover The difference between fear and being unready — and why we so often confuse the two Why perfectionism convinces us that "exactly right" and "not at all" are the only two options The idea that starters, even imperfect ones, tend to outpace people who wait to feel ready Why "I'm not ready" can be less about capability and more about belonging or perfectionism Reframing the question from "Am I ready?" to "Am I willing?" The myth of the perfect starting point, and why the conditions we're waiting for rarely arrive on their own Brighter Moves Kelly's move: Write down one thing you've been saying "not yet" to. You don't need to fix it or plan it — just name it. Jessica's move: Ask yourself, "What would I do this week if I knew being scared was allowed?" Not comfortable, not certain — just allowed. Free Download of the Month: Just One Thing This month's freebie is the Just One Thing starter worksheet — a simple, no-pressure tool to help you name one thing you've been putting off and take one real step toward it.   📥 [Grab your free download here] Connect With Us 🌐 Website: chasingbrighter.com 📸 Instagram: @chasingbrighter 🎵 TikTok: @chasingbrighter 👍 Facebook: @chasingbrighter ▶️ YouTube: @chasingbrighter 📩 Newsletter signup Coming Up Next Week Why do we keep adding credentials, experience, and proof before we let ourselves begin? Why does no amount of qualifying ever feel like enough — and who set that bar in the first place? Join us next week as we dig in. becoming not arriving, season 6, starting before you're ready, fear vs readiness, perfectionism, imposter syndrome, self-sabotage, women and perfectionism, personal growth, starting a business, overthinking, procrastination, willingness vs readiness, Just One Thing worksheet, Chasing Brighter podcast
The Messy Middle: Chasing Brighter Season 6 Trailer
2026/08/31
Last season, we dug into the gap between who women think they're supposed to be and who they actually are — the expectations, the perfectionism, the invisible rules about what a "good life" looks like. But figuring out who you are was never the finish line. Season 6 picks up where that left off: the messy middle. What happens when you know who you are and have to actually start living that way? This season, Jessica and Kelly explore starting before you feel ready, letting friendships change without needing a villain, saying no without over-explaining yourself, and changing even when the people around you liked the old version of you better. Because maybe the goal was never arriving. Maybe it's becoming — and that's a life that's actually yours. Season 6 of Chasing Brighter premieres September 3rd. Come become with us. 🌐 Website: chasingbrighter.com 📷 Instagram: @chasingbrighter ▶️ YouTube: @chasingbrighter 📘 Facebook: @chasingbrighter 🎵 TikTok: @chasingbrighter   becoming not arriving, chasing brighter season 6, messy middle, personal growth podcast, perfectionism, boundaries, identity, self-discovery, women's empowerment podcast, letting go of perfectionism, changing relationships, comparison, starting before you're ready, real over perfect, growth and rest
What are you waiting to feel ready for?
2026/08/27
So many of us are waiting for the moment we finally "arrive." When we lose the weight. When the kids need us less. When work calms down. When we're more organized, more confident, more together... then we'll be happy. Then we'll rest. But what if there isn't an arrival point? In this trailer, Jessica and Kelly open up Season 6 with a question that changes everything: what if this is it? Not in a depressing way, but in a freeing one. Maybe your life isn't something you have to perfect before you're allowed to enjoy it. Maybe you can be proud of who you are and still want to grow. Maybe rest doesn't have to be earned, and starting something before you feel ready is allowed too. This season isn't about becoming the perfect version of yourself. It's about becoming more you. Season 6 of Chasing Brighter, Becoming Not Arriving, begins September 3rd. In This Episode: Why the idea of "arrival" keeps so many of us stuck Letting go of the myth that you have to be finished before you can be happy Growth that's real, rest that's earned, and a life that's actually yours What to expect from Season 6 Season 6 begins September 3rd. Subscribe now so you don't miss it. Find us: Website: chasingbrighter.com Instagram/TikTok: @chasingbrighter Keywords: chasing brighter, becoming not arriving, season 6, personal growth, self acceptance, letting go of perfectionism, rest without guilt, women's podcast, sisters podcast, real over perfect, growth mindset, self worth, starting before you're ready, permission to rest, life transitions
Season 6: Becoming, Not Arriving
2026/08/17
So many of us are waiting for the moment we finally "arrive." When we lose the weight. When the kids need us less. When work calms down. When we're more organized, more confident, more together... then we'll be happy. Then we'll rest. But what if there isn't an arrival point? In this trailer, Jessica and Kelly open up Season 6 with a question that changes everything: what if this is it? Not in a depressing way, but in a freeing one. Maybe your life isn't something you have to perfect before you're allowed to enjoy it. Maybe you can be proud of who you are and still want to grow. Maybe rest doesn't have to be earned, and starting something before you feel ready is allowed too. This season isn't about becoming the perfect version of yourself. It's about becoming more you. Season 6 of Chasing Brighter, Becoming Not Arriving, begins September 3rd. In This Episode: Why the idea of "arrival" keeps so many of us stuck Letting go of the myth that you have to be finished before you can be happy Growth that's real, rest that's earned, and a life that's actually yours What to expect from Season 6 Season 6 begins September 3rd. Subscribe now so you don't miss it. Find us: Website: chasingbrighter.com Instagram/TikTok: @chasingbrighter Keywords: chasing brighter, becoming not arriving, season 6, personal growth, self acceptance, letting go of perfectionism, rest without guilt, women's podcast, sisters podcast, real over perfect, growth mindset, self worth, starting before you're ready, permission to rest, life transitions
RE-RELEASE: Real Systems for Real Life
2026/08/03
Ever bought a beautiful color-coded planner and abandoned it in 10 days? Jessica and Kelly get real about why aspirational, Instagram-perfect systems fail — and what actually works instead. This episode is about meeting yourself where you're at: building systems that are low-friction, flexible, forgiving, and repeatable, especially on hard days. Because social media isn't perfection, it's performance — and real systems need to expect a human, not a highlight reel. What We Cover Why perfect systems fail — Instagram and Pinterest systems assume consistency, predictable schedules, and stable moods, while real life includes hormones, travel, burnout, grief, and aging parents. If a system collapses under stress, it was never actually supportive. What real systems look like — low friction, flexible, forgiving, sustainable, and repeatable, not aspirational Trading elaborate for repeatable, with real-life examples: A 10-minute anchor habit (coffee, stretching, reviewing the day) instead of a 90-minute morning routine Three default dinners on rotation instead of an elaborate weekly meal plan A 15-minute nightly "closing shift" where everyone tidies a few things instead of a full nightly reset Two inbox folders — Action and Archive — instead of inbox perfection Three priorities a day (sticky note optional) instead of a complicated goal-tracking system The smallest-version question — asking "what's the smallest version of this that would still move things forward?" to get unstuck on things like replying to an email or text Habit stacking — attaching new habits to something you already do daily (like making coffee), rather than building something from scratch Real examples from Jessica and Kelly's own homes, including: A baby-step lunch habit (grabbing simple protein like turkey pepperonis or trail mix) instead of full meal prep Planning just three meals a week and shopping just-in-time instead of stocking up in advance A shoes-at-the-door system and laying out clothes the night before A weekly family scheduling check-in (including grandparents) to coordinate who's taking whom where The energy system check — asking "what kind of energy do I have today?" and adapting instead of punishing yourself for being human Free Resource The Organizational Style Quiz helps you figure out whether you're a visual organizer, a minimalist, a flexible stacker, or someone who needs more structure. Free when you sign up for the Thrive Guide newsletter at chasingbrighter.com/newsletter. Connect With Us 📩 Subscribe to the newsletter at chasingbrighter.com/newsletter | 📷 @chasingbrighter (Instagram) simple systems, organizing your life, real over perfect, low friction systems, sustainable habits, anchor habit, habit stacking, meal planning, default dinners, closing shift routine, inbox management, daily priorities, smallest version strategy, energy check, organizational style quiz, visual organizer, minimalist organizer, flexible stacker, family scheduling, just-in-time grocery shopping, Chasing Brighter podcast
RE-RELEASE: The Exhaustion That Sleep Can't Fix
2026/07/27
Kicking off their Energy and Overwhelm month, Jessica and Kelly get honest about a kind of tired that sleep cannot touch — the exhaustion that lives underneath an otherwise good, full life. Jessica opens up about six years of intentional self-work — therapy, fitness, nutrition, a 40-pound weight loss journey — and how even with all of that in place, there are still days when something feels off in a way that isn't physical. This episode names that feeling, explores why it's so hard to pinpoint, and offers real, doable ways to start responding to it. What We Cover The tired that sleep can't touch — why doing "all the right things" for physical energy doesn't always reach the deeper layer of depletion The snap-guilt-deplete loop — how low-grade irritability, guilt about being short with the people you love, and further depletion feed each other, and why this is a feedback loop, not a character flaw Why this kind of exhaustion is hard to name — there's rarely one single cause; it's an accumulation of small, individually reasonable asks that add up You can love your life and still be depleted by it — a life that looks full and balanced from the outside can still be exhausting to live Naming it as the first step — saying the exhaustion out loud, treating it as data instead of evidence that something is wrong with you What actually helps in the moment, including: Journaling (paper, phone notes, or voice memos) to help name what's actually going on Canceling plans without guilt-spiraling, and recognizing that honoring your own capacity doesn't cost you relationships Opting out — ordering in, taking something off the plate, choosing rest over obligation Asking for help, even when it feels hard Noticing the difference between numbing (scrolling, binge-watching) and actually replenishing Asking "what would make me feel 5–10% better right now?" Taking a mental inventory — identifying what's taking up space in your head that doesn't need to be there This week's brighter move: Sit with one question — where is my energy going? Not to fix it, just to notice it. Free Resource "Are You Living Your Values or Someone Else's?" — a free values clarity guide with five honest questions and five tips for living more aligned. Takes about five minutes. Available free when you subscribe to the newsletter at chasingbrighter.com/newsletter. Coming Up Next week: Why capable, high-functioning women keep hitting invisible walls — and why trying harder is the wrong answer. A conversation about capacity that reframes everything. Connect With Us 📩 Subscribe to the newsletter at chasingbrighter.com/newsletter | 📷 @chasingbrighter (Instagram) exhaustion, tired sleep can't fix, energy and overwhelm, emotional depletion, feedback loop, guilt spiral, mental load, emotional labor, naming your feelings, journaling, canceling plans without guilt, asking for help, numbing behaviors, replenishing vs numbing, mental inventory, capacity, values clarity guide, living your values, boundaries, real over perfect, Chasing Brighter podcast, high-functioning women burnout
RE-RELEASE: Energy First: The Smarter Way to Organize Your Life
2026/07/20
Social media makes organizing look like color-coded bins and perfectly labeled pantries, but Jessica and Kelly get honest about why a one-size-fits-all system rarely works. In this re-released episode, they dig into what it looks like to build your life around your actual energy instead of a list of "shoulds." Expectation-based living — I should wake up early, I should handle more, I should be better by now — builds a life around what looks impressive instead of what's sustainable, and burnout isn't a surprise when that's the foundation. Jessica and Kelly share their own week-long energy tracking experiment and what they learned about themselves. What We Cover Expectation-based living vs. energy-based living — why building a life around "shoulds" makes burnout inevitable, not surprising The four types of energy — physical, emotional, social, and creative — and why they don't all peak at the same time of day A reframe for exhaustion — instead of asking "why am I so tired," ask "what kind of energy is running low right now?" When to loop in a doctor — a pattern of hitting a wall at the same time every day can be worth mentioning at a checkup; things like vitamin D deficiency or hormonal shifts can mimic low energy or even depression The 5-day energy experiment — rating physical, emotional, social, and creative energy 1–10 three times a day to notice your own patterns without judgment Matching tasks to energy levels — using high-energy windows for high-energy tasks instead of "wasting" them on low-energy chores like scrolling or grocery ordering Physical energy isn't always about movement — sometimes it's restorative: a hot bath, a hot tub, a massage, stretching Emotional energy and internal family systems — noticing which "protector" part tends to take over under stress Social energy as an intentional choice — the difference between constant, unavoidable social interaction and choosing a weekly, meaningful connection Creative energy — how it shows up in unexpected places, from meal planning to problem-solving to imagining The self-talk shift — instead of "I suck at planning," try "I need a system that matches my wiring and energy levels" Coming Up This month's free resource: An Organizational Style Quiz to help you find a system that matches your personality instead of forcing a Pinterest-perfect one. Available free with newsletter sign-up at chasingbrighter.com/newsletter. Next week: Simple systems that support real life, not Instagram life — because if a system only works when you're motivated, it's not a real system. Connect With Us 📩 Subscribe to the newsletter at chasingbrighter.com/newsletter | 📷 @chasingbrighter (Instagram) organizing your life, energy-based living, expectation-based living, burnout, physical energy, emotional energy, social energy, creative energy, energy awareness, energy tracking, energy audit, depleting vs energizing, self-talk, internal family systems, protector parts, organizational style quiz, sustainable systems, real over perfect, Chasing Brighter podcast, women's fatigue, hormonal energy shifts, vitamin D deficiency, matching tasks to energy
RE-RELEASE: Reset Your Nervous System (Without Reinventing Your Life)
2026/07/13
February is all about resetting, resting, and reconnecting — and Jessica and Kelly start with the foundation of it all: the nervous system. If you've been feeling irritable, exhausted, numb, or like you're running on fumes, it's probably not a motivation problem, it's a regulation problem. This episode reframes the conversation from fixing yourself (which brings shame) to regulating yourself (which brings compassion), and offers a full menu of simple, accessible nervous system resets you can use anywhere — no cold plunge or life overhaul required. What We Cover Regulation, not fixing — why "my nervous system needs support" is a more compassionate (and more accurate) frame than "I need to fix myself" The seasonal mismatch — how winter naturally asks us to slow down, and why expecting spring-level productivity from a winter body creates unnecessary shame Signs your nervous system needs a reset — irritability, feeling emotionally flat or checked out, being exhausted yet wired, and everything feeling like "too much" The nervous system reset menu, broken into four categories: Breath: the physiological sigh, hand-on-chest breathing, and an audible exhale (sigh or hum) Body: wall leaning, the shoulder drop reset, and temperature resets (warm mug, cold water) Environment: shifting overhead lighting to lamps or natural light, taking an outside pause, and using a visual anchor (naming three neutral or pleasant things you see) Mental/emotional: name it to tame it, using a permission phrase ("nothing needs to be solved in this moment"), and a one-question check-in ("what would help me feel 5% better right now?") Emergency-level resets for high-stress days — sitting or lying down and doing nothing for 90 seconds, slowly drinking a full glass of water, and closing your eyes to feel your breath without changing it A daily reconnection question — "What does my nervous system need right now?" instead of "What should I do?" Today's permission slip — I don't have to be at my best to begin again Coming Up Next week: Kelly and Jessica talk about rest without guilt — because you don't have to earn your humanity. Connect With Us 📩 Subscribe to the newsletter at chasingbrighter.com/newsletter | 📷 @chasingbrighter (Instagram) nervous system reset, nervous system regulation, dysregulation, winter body spring productivity, self-love reset, seven day brighter challenge, micro resets, physiological sigh, hand on chest breathing, vagus nerve, wall leaning, shoulder drop reset, temperature reset, grounding techniques, environmental reset, visual anchor, name it to tame it, permission phrase, emotional regulation, high stress day reset, rest without guilt, self-compassion, real over perfect, Chasing Brighter podcast

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foxycoffeesnob 2024/05/09
Inspired me to start living my life for myself!
I have spent a majority of my life, trying to please others. This podcast has really inspired me to start taking control of my life and doing things t...
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Jen12141214 2024/03/27
A wonderful listen
Informative & very easy to relate
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societyhillmom 2024/03/22
Inspiration for my day!
Thank you Jessica and Kelly for bringing a little inspiration to my day with each episode! Your conversations make me feel like I am not alone and I c...
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Bowkeek 2023/11/08
Mom talk #6
Loved this episode. My kids are adults but it was helpful information!
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Amy from NY 2023/08/16
An intellectual/fun chat with your smartest best friends
It is a JOY to listen to the Chasing Brighter podcast with sisters/hosts, Jess & Kelly! As a busy, mompreneur myself, these weekly topics meant to hel...
★★★★★
Kassidy Owen 2023/03/22
LOVE this podcast!
The Chasing Brighter Podcast is one of my favorites. They constantly have awesome interviews with experts. I look forward to this podcast weekly 👏🏼
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