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Serious Trouble

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2022/06/16
Latest episode
2026/01/31
Average duration
26 min.
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9 days

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An irreverent podcast about the law from Josh Barro and Ken White. www.serioustrouble.show

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Lemon Law
2026/01/31
This week Ken and Josh discuss how the Feds got an arrest warrant for Don Lemon after all. Before prosecutors got the grand jury indictment, they tried through some really irregular channels to get Lemon arrested more quickly. When a magistrate judge rejected an arrest warrant application for Lemon last week, rather than applying again or proceeding to the grand jury, prosecutors asked Judge Patrick Schiltz to overrule the magistrate, then asked an appellate panel to force Schiltz to rule on their motion right away, fearing that if Lemon wasn’t arrested immediately, there would be an epidemic of illegal church invasions. Schiltz took exception to this, and the appeals panel backed him up, though one of the appellate judges remarked that he thought all the arrest warrants were sufficiently supported but the government just didn’t need the weird emergency relief it was seeking. Also this week: we look at federal judges (including Schiltz) who are incensed that ICE isn’t promptly complying with their habeas corpus orders, and how this mess is downstream of rules that prohibit nationwide injunctions and are clogging some courts with individual lawsuits seeking relief from immigration detentions. We have an update on Minnesota’s 10th Amendment case — Judge Kate Menendez appears skeptical that she is in a position to provide the sweeping relief the state wants, though she does want more briefing on the threat letter from Attorney General Pam Bondi to the state. And in another case, an order from Menendez restricting ICE tactics has been stayed. In non-ICE news, it appears likely that Jeffrey Toobin will have to testify at Tom Goldstein’s criminal trial, though he has a good argument for limiting his testimony to fairly boring topics. Candace Owens says Turning Point USA has sent her a letter threatening to enforce a non-disparagement agreement they say she has violated by spreading conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk’s death. And a defendant in Northern California called up a local news station during her trial to protest that she only threw parties where she gave alcohol to minors because of COVID. Upgrade your subscription to receive all of our episodes at serioustrouble.show. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.serioustrouble.show/subscribe
120 Days
2026/01/23
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show This week, Ken and Josh discuss the end of Lindsey Halligan's purported reign in the Eastern District of Virginia, and news reports that ICE is relying on a secret legal memorandum asserting that it can enter homes to search for aliens subject to final orders of removal, even if there’s no warrant from an Article III judge authorizing them to do so. That's for all subscribers. Paying subscribers also get: * A look at the order enjoining ICE from certain enforcement tactics in Minnesota, but it’s subject to an administrative stay, for now — and, since this is Fourth Amendment Fun week, we have another opportunity to discuss how you might have a Fourth Amendment right, but that doesn’t mean you’ll get to use it. * The case of Geraldo Lunas Campos, a Cuban national who died in ICE custody earlier this month. ICE says his death was a suicide, but his family disputes that, citing other detainees who claim he was choked by guards. (A county medical examiner’s report also deemed his death a homicide — a determination of manner of death, not a finding of legal culpability.) Alas, it’s up to DOJ to keep those witnesses available to testify, and if DOJ doesn’t want to, they’ll likely be deported. * The federal charges for anti-ICE activists who are accused of disrupting a Twin Cities church service this past weekend — they were charged under the so-called Klan Act, and the charges were obtained via criminal complaint to a magistrate judge, which means prosecutors will still need to get a grand jury to agree to indict — and prosecutors’ failure so far to charge journalist Don Lemon. * The Supreme Court’s ongoing effort to carve out the Federal Reserve from its plans to neuter independent boards and commissions (special unique historical tradition etc etc). * And a weird one: former Sen. Kyrsten Sinema has been sued for alienation of affection — still an available tort in North Carolina and five other states! — by the estranged wife of one of her former staffers, who says Sinema stole her man. Upgrade your subscription to receive all of our episodes at serioustrouble.show.
You Are Not Jay Powell
2026/01/16
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show Fed Chair Jerome Powell dropped a bombshell on Sunday: a video disclosing the Fed had been subpoenaed in a criminal investigation related to his congressional testimony about cost overruns in the Fed’s headquarters renovation. Powell said bluntly that the investigation is an effort to use the DOJ to assert control over the Fed and its interest-rate setting apparatus. Did this make Ken scream "shut up!!!!" at Powell's video? Meanwhile, Minnesota and some of its municipalities have sued the federal government, arguing that the ICE surge in the state is illegal and unconstitutional. Those discussions are for all listeners. Paying subscribers also get: * A look at intensifying turnover in US Attorneys’ offices, including the resignation of top prosecutors who had been leading the investigations into welfare fraud in Minnesota that was concentrated in the state’s Somali-American community. * DOJ’s argument for why Lindsey Halligan can keep calling herself a US Attorney after a judge ruled she isn’t one. * Senator Mark Kelly’s many arguments for why Pete Hegseth can’t reduce his rank and pension. * Some “shut up” news: prosecutors want to admit several incriminating statements from defendant Thomas Goldstein’s pre-trial New York Times profile. * And a look at a bizarre situation where Bruce Fein insists he somehow became Nicolas Maduro’s lawyer even though Maduro says he never hired him. Upgrade your subscription now at serioustrouble.show.
Cartel De Los Soles
2026/01/09
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show This week’s episode starts with the arrest and indictment of Nicolas Maduro, and the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good at the hands of an ICE agent in Minneapolis. That’s for free subscribers. Paying subscribers also get a look at a shadow docket ruling from the Supreme Court that curtailed Trump’s ability to deploy the national guard, and the surprising statutory reading that got a majority of the court there. We look at a dismissal of criminal charges from another scrap with ICE in Los Angeles, we discuss Mark Kelly’s legal options for fighting the reduction of his pension (and why he might choose not to use them), we consider why Lindsey Halligan keeps insisting she’s the US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, we look at the bizarre upcoming criminal trial of Scotusblog co-founder Thomas Goldstein, and we have an update on the saga of the still-held-in-contempt Charles C. Johnson. Upgrade your subscription at serioustrouble.show
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2025/12/23
Some of the Epstein files have been released, but there's a lot of blacked-out text and pictures. The Justice Department is supposed to redact certain information but of course there’s the ever-present question of whether all redaction “errors” are errors, or whether this administration has its thumb on the scale for the president. Also in this episode: the Pulitzer Board requests President Trump's medical, financial and tax records, an LA man who towed an ICE vehicle around the block during a raid was acquitted of stealing government property, Milwaukee Judge Hannah Dugan was convicted in federal court of obstructing an effort by federal immigration agents to detain someone she had called to her courtroom. And Caroline Ellison, former partner to Sam Bankman-Fried in multiple senses of the term, has been sprung from Club Fed in Danbury, Connecticut. Speaking of SBF: apparently he’s transformed himself into something of a jailhouse lawyer but he seems to be about as good at jailhouse lawyering as he was at crypto investing. Finally, we look at a maybe-not-so-fearsome terrorism indictment and we discuss the ongoing contempt saga that has caused Ken to feel a surprising emotion regarding Charles C. Johnson: pity. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.serioustrouble.show/subscribe
What Part of 'No Bill' Don't You Understand?
2025/12/16
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show A grand jury has refused to indict Letitia James — no, this isn’t a repeat of last week’s email; it just happened again since we last recorded. This time, it’s a different grand jury, and we discuss further impediments to the resurrection of the cases against her and James Comey. That, plus a discussion of the unlikely-to-matter pardon of former Colorado election official Tina Peters, is for free subscribers this week. Paid subscribers also get: * A look at a lawsuit from the National Trust for Historic Preservation which aims to stop the construction of Trump’s new White House ballroom. * Another trial court win for Gavin Newsom as he tries to end Trump’s activation of the California National Guard (though the outlook in the appeals courts is more dubious). * Costco’s lawsuit seeking return of its tariff payments under IEEPA, and why Costco would sue now, long after a few plaintiffs stood up to bring a test case but before the Supreme Court rules on it. * And the order that has, for now, freed Kilmar Abrego Garcia to return to Maryland. Upgrade your subscription at serioustrouble.show.
You Can Take the Girl Out of New Jersey
2025/12/10
This week: more news in the Letitia James and James Comey cases. DOJ tried to re-indict James, but they got a no-bill, and in the Comey case, the government is a bit held up by a motion from Comey's sometime-lawyer and friend. Meanwhile, Lindsey Halligan is still running around, acting like she’s the U.S. Attorney (even though the fact that she isn’t is why these cases got dismissed), but Alina Habba has thrown in the towel, moving to main Justice to advise Pam Bondi and declaring “you can take the girl out of New Jersey, but you cannot take the New Jersey out of the girl.” Also this week: charges against Brian Cole Jr., who’s accused of the attempted pipe bombings at the RNC and DNC nearly five years ago; shadow docket action that saved Republicans’ Texas remap; super troll Charles C. Johnson’s latest misadventures that have landed him in jail for contempt of court; and why an embarrassing policy report about Rep. Nancy Mace's airport meltdown became public. Find links and a transcript of this episode and sign up for our newsletter at serioustrouble.show. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.serioustrouble.show/subscribe
Cases Dismissed
2025/12/05
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show The criminal cases against James Comey and Letitia James were both dismissed, without prejudice, on the grounds that former insurance attorney Lindsey Halligan was never properly appointed as an interim US Attorney. Trump’s Justice Department has options, and we talk through them. That conversation is for free listeners. For paid subscribers this week, we also address: * A rare favorable ruling for the Trump administration from Judge James Boasberg. * Eric Swalwell’s lawsuit against Bill Pulte * Peter Skandalakis’s tortured-but-ultimately-convincing, argument that the Georgia RICO case is terminal and should be taken off life support. * Megan Thee Stallion’s “big” ($59,000) win in her defamation lawsuit against a live-streamer * Probation for Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman, and * A sharply-worded minute order from Judge Amy Berman Jackson trying to ensure that she won’t be the only long-suffering person around these parts. Upgrade your subscription today at serioustrouble.show.
Here Come the Epstein Files
2025/11/21
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show Now that Congress has voted overwhelmingly to require the release of the Epstein files, we discuss what’s likely to be in those files, what the administration might do to undermine the intent of the law requiring release, and whether we really ought to learn so much about this case. That conversation is for free subscribers. Paying subscribers get much more this week — a look at the rapidly increasing number of problems with the James Comey indictment, an update on the National Guard cases, and an interesting question from the Supreme Court about the meaning of a law restricting the president’s ability to deploy it over a governor’s objection. We look at a really, really intemperate dissent in the Texas redistricting case, an update on Tina Peters, and we look at two defamation cases, one where Trump has again lost to CNN, and one brought by rapper Megan Thee Stallion against a Twitch streamer who, in the eyes of the state of Florida, does not count as a media outlet. Upgrade your subscription now at serioustrouble.show
Sandwiches For All
2025/11/14
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show Sandwich Guy is free! Sean Dunn was acquitted of simple assault by a jury of his peers. Meanwhile, Lindsey Halligan continues to face difficulties in her case against James Comey, and the Justice Department generally is having trouble finding a sufficient number of qualified attorneys. That’s all in this week’s free show. There’s much more this week for paying subscribers, including: * A look at why Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson chose to delay a ruling that would have forced the Trump administration to pay SNAP benefits. * U.S. Senators voted themselves a legal right to sue if the government obtains their phone records, and the House grudgingly went along. The provision might get repealed after an outcry. But if it doesn't, does that violate the 27th Amendment? And even if it does, is there any recourse? * The adventures of Bill Pulte. * Federal pardons for participants in fake elector conspiracies (who really mostly need to worry about state charges anyway). * Another victory for Ann Selzer. Visit serioustrouble.show to upgrade your subscription to get the whole episode.
Snap Decisions
2025/11/04
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show On this week's show for everyone: two court decisions direct the Trump administration to continue sending SNAP (food stamp) funds to states and the administration has chosen not to appeal these orders — likely not relishing the politics of withholding SNAP funds — but the legal situation may get more complicated if the shutdown does not end soon. Plus: more motions from James Comey. For paying subscribers: legal wrangling over federal immigration enforcement in Chicago; some AUSAs who were placed on leave for daring to call January 6 a “mob” “riot” in a sentencing memo; a Tennessee man who spent a month in jail on the extremely thin claim that a political meme he posted was a terroristic threat; and the strange scandal of now-former FDA official George Tidmarsh and Aurinia. Upgrade your subscription at serioustrouble.show.
Literal Truth and Theoretical Conflicts
2025/10/30
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show This week, both James Comey and Letitia James continue to seek dismissal of the criminal charges brought against them, and one argument they’ve both made will be considered by a judge from another state. We talk about why that's happening, we also discuss a lesson from the Barry Bonds steroids case that could be relevant for Comey, and we look at a complaint James has made about Halligan’s communications about grand jury proceedings to a reporter. That, plus a look at Ninth Circuit action in the national guard cases and a look at a sloppy defamation lawsuit from Paul Ingrassia, constitutes this week’s free show. Beyond the paywall, we talk about an effort from the D.C. bar to impose new burdens on law firms that might, theoretically, enter into settlement deals with the government, an dwhen a state could prosecute an ICE officer for breaking state law (not never, is the short answer), and our discussion of how some judges are now getting in trouble for their misuse of AI in drafting opinions. Upgrade your subscription at serioustrouble.show.
Insider Betting
2025/10/25
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show This week in the free episode: the indictment of John Bolton and how it's pretty different from the Comey indictment, plus Trump's apparent demand that the Justice Department pay him $230 million for the indignity of being prosecuted. Paying subscribers also get to hear a dive into two wild NBA-related indictments that came down this week in the Eastern District of New York. One indictment alleges that conspirators, including an NBA coach and members of four of New York’s Italian mafia families, ran rigged poker games to fleece unsuspecting players out of millions of dollars. The other alleges a conspiracy to fraudulently bet on NBA games — or more specifically, on propositions about NBA games — through the use of inside information. Both of these cases have crazy factual details, and the NBA betting one also involves some interesting, novel legal issues. Also: an update on lawsuits over National Guard deployments (and some theories about why an unfavorable ruling for Gavin Newsom did not get a rehearing en banc), a look at the case demanding that Speaker Mike Johnson hurry up and seat the Democrat who won a special election in Arizona several weeks ago, and an update on Hunter Biden-related litigation. Visit serioustrouble.show to upgrade your subscription.
Drake's Not Like Us (Familiar With Defamation Law)
2025/10/17
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show Letitia James has been indicted, as President Trump’s retribution campaign continues. (So has John Bolton, but that happened after we recorded.) While the Bolton indictment has a forbidding, professional feel, the James indictment does not, and is likely to be vulnerable to some of the same attacks James Comey is raising against his own indictment. But then, is the point even to get a conviction? Plus: another US Attorney has been forced out for insufficient eagerness to investigate the president’s enemies, and the Wall Street Journal reports that Ghislaine Maxwell’s arrival to the Club Fed in Texas has made life less pleasant for the other inmates there. For paying subscribers, we look at Drake’s humiliating loss in his defamation lawsuit against his own record label, in which a federal judge had to explain to him how a rap battle works; a discussion of a split decision by a panel in the Sixth Circuit, saying schools may prohibit clothing with implied vulgarities (such as two students’ sweatshirts that declared “Let’s Go Brandon"); ICE enforcing a little-known law that green card holders must actually carry their green cards (apparently just with fines, so far); and the State Department bragging that it’s revoking visas held by non-citizens who said mean things about Charlie Kirk. There's also a preview of Josh's new podcast Central Air, a weekly politics chat from the center.
Race To Trial
2025/10/09
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.serioustrouble.show James Comey has been arraigned and has a trial date of January 5. Both his lawyer and the judge appear set on moving rapidly to trial, and the government is rushing to be ready. We discuss the motions it sounds like Comey's legal team will file, which likely will be helped by the message from the president demanding Comey’s prosecution that does really appear to have been intended as a private message for Attorney General Pam Bondi. Plus: we discuss Sean Combs' sentence and how to lobby for a lenient sentence when your client is very fortunate and prominent, without sounding like you’re saying the rich and famous deserve to get off easy. Paying subscribers get that and much more (upgrade your subscription at serioustrouble.show): * A look at an unexpected criminal complaint about the highly destructive Palisades Fire, in which federal prosecutors allege that an Uber driver set a smaller fire that begat the major fire. * Temporary restraining orders in the case over Trump’s effort to deploy national guard troops to Portland, and what appeals courts are likely to do with them. * What to make of Supreme Court’s choice to finally take on the Lisa Cook case, and the procedural split it is likely to emphasize among the court’s conservative justices as they ponder what to do with the special, unique, quasi-private institution in a long historical tradition that is the Federal Reserve. * A lengthy and forceful appeals court ruling upholding birthright citizenship. * Another vindictive prosecution claim that has legs, this time from Kilmar Abrego Garcia. * And a Kardashian-Jenner-Ray-J RICO-defamation case. Wow!

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4.7 out of 5
417 reviews
★★★★★
wayz 2025/12/16
I have come to accept that this is my favorite podcast
In the 50+ years of my life, there has been little to no indication that I’ve ever had an interest in legal affairs, legal theory or in-the-weeds lega...
★★★★★
supra supremacy 2025/12/13
Informative and entertaining
I started listening to this one when Ken stopped posting on Popehat. Very entertaining and interesting show. I wish there was something any of us co...
★★★★★
CMPstan 2025/07/11
Informative and Fun
Ken White and Josh Barro have created a space where common sense discussion of law fare exists.
★★☆☆☆
Peter Guillam 2025/11/21
Boycott Barro
The PopeHat, Ken White, is superb. Listen to The PopeHat and you will learn about the law and the legal system. Josh Barro is pundit manure. Barrow is...
★☆☆☆☆
MKNZ2222 2025/09/19
rip off
I paid $60 for a year of this podcast, duly added it to my Apple podcasts feed, and ONLY get the free episodes/ parts of episodes. I’ve wasted a lot ...
★★★☆☆
mrskrabapple 2025/07/13
one good commenter
i appreciate ken’s analysis, but josh is a terrible moderator/host, and it’s unfortunate because he leads the discussions. if ken found another partne...
★★★★★
Lawyer in Salt Lake City 2025/04/18
Entertaining and factual legal news
I really enjoy this podcast.
★☆☆☆☆
Timpgav 2025/06/14
42:50
Sarah quote, “Donald Trump could have come in in 2017 and fixed entitlements, and maybe immigration.” This show is a sad joke.
★☆☆☆☆
TylerB1978 2025/06/13
Halfway there
It’s great to hear from Ken and get his perspective on important legal issues! Josh, however, is insufferable and adds nothing of substance.
★★★★★
Anonymous Apricot 2025/02/10
Fire pod
Love the pod feel so much smarter that Mr. White really knows what he’s talking about
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