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We speak with Caleb Collier of the Church and State Podcast about his background, how he got into libertarian and constitutional circles, and why he started his show. We also discuss privacy and digital security tools, including Graphene OS, encrypted messaging, VPNs, and other ways to reduce surveillance. We spend much of the episode on political tribalism, especially within conservatism and the Republican Party, along with U.S. foreign policy, military bases, intervention, debt, and the effects of war. We then turn to the church, warning about political Christianity and urging Christians to put Christ above nation, politics, and ideology while studying Scripture for themselves. Chapters:00:00 Intro00:32 Welcome, Updates, and Guest Intro02:58 Interview Start04:16 Cult Roots and Politics06:26 From Marines to City Hall07:41 Privacy in a Surveillance Age11:08 Conservatism’s Big Government Trap17:52 Empire or Republic?22:42 Foreign Policy and Peace27:26 Church, Trump, and False Power33:15 Patriotism in Proper Order40:30 Faith and Libertarian Debates43:57 Massey Versus MAGA47:58 Roads, Parks, and Liberty50:47 Biblical Resistance to State Power52:01 Covenants Shape Politics55:11 Read the Gospels More57:45 Wrap-Up58:49 Outro Full Episode Notes at BiblicalAnarchyPodcast.com The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!

Jacob returns after a long hiatus to discuss recent life changes, plans for a more regular release schedule, and a few previously recorded interviews that will be released soon. He also focuses on the tension between Christian faith, political action, and the use of power, reflecting on the costs of political engagement and arguing for a third way: Christians should rely on persuasion, service, and sacrifice rather than coercion. He also discusses the limits of state power, the dangers of political violence, and the importance of the church in caring for the poor, the elderly, and the vulnerable. He concludes by returning to the gospel as the answer to cultural decay, calling Christians to humility, neighbor-love, and a greater priority on the kingdom of God than political identity. Chapters:0:00 Intro0:32 Updates After a Long Hiatus4:18 Christian Nationalism Question13:09 Cost of Power22:37 Church and Social Care33:41 Force and Gospel37:44 Freedom and Culture43:24 Guns and Conscience50:35 Closing Prayer Full Episode Notes at BiblicalAnarchyPodcast.com The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!

Christian anarchism holds that loyalty to Christ and loyalty to the American state are not the same thing -- and may be in direct conflict. In this episode of the Biblical Anarchy Podcast, Jacob Winograd sits down with Craig Hargis of the Bad Roman Project to work through what Christian anarchism actually claims, why the Sermon on the Mount functions as its theological foundation, and what it costs to take that position seriously. They cover the early church's understanding of allegiance, the Romans 13 debate, Christian pacifism, and the hard question of whether Christians should vote at all -- including Jacob's honest reckoning with his own 2024 vote and what he got wrong. If you have ever wondered whether being a faithful Christian requires you to be a bad American, this conversation is for you. Full Episode Notes at BiblicalAnarchyPodcast.com The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!

Daryl Cooper, better known as MartyrMade, is one of the most provocative and original voices in independent media. Known for his massive deep-dive podcast series on some of history's most contested events, Daryl has been praised for his empathy-driven approach to history and criticized for being willing to go where most historians won't. In this conversation, we're setting aside the controversy and asking a different question: What should Christian conservatism actually look like? We'll explore Daryl's faith journey, how being a Christian shapes the way he approaches history and politics, and whether the American right has lost its soul in the process of winning the culture war. We'll also dig into libertarianism: what does it get right, where does it fall short, and is it sufficient as a political framework for Christians? This is a good-faith conversation between two people who agree on more than you might expect, and disagree in ways worth hearing.

Jacob Winograd, host of the Biblical Anarchy Podcast, takes the Theocompass.com theology compass test live — answering 30 questions on the Trinity, Scripture, baptism, eschatology, and Christian ethics. The test scores him 67% Presbyterian Church in America. The problem: he's a Reformed Baptist who rejects infant baptism. This episode reveals what the theology compass test gets right, where its categories break down, and what a libertarian, amillennial, partial preterist Reformed Baptist actually believes. Full Episode Notes at BiblicalAnarchyPodcast.com The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!

Dave Smith recently joined me live in the LCI Greenroom, and we discussed the Iran War and the status of the libertarian movement and the Republican Party. How is it that people who are committed to liberty or to following Christ can become cheerleaders for politicians, wars, and policies which go so completely against their stated principles? Dave and I discuss this and more. The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!

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In Episode 120 of the Biblical Anarchy Podcast, Jacob Winograd examines what happened when Congress passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act — and the DOJ simply ignored it. Drawing on the Massie hearings, the Epstein conspiracy pattern, elite theory, and the prophetic tradition of Scripture, Jacob argues that the cover-up reveals something more disturbing than any name in the files: that American Christians have drifted into worshiping the system itself, and that faithfulness to Christ demands we stop. Full Episode Notes at BiblicalAnarchyPodcast.com The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!

In this episode of the Biblical Anarchy Podcast, host Jacob Winograd examines whether legal justification is a sufficient stopping point for Christian ethics on violence. Anchoring the discussion in 1 Corinthians 6:12 -- "all things are lawful, but not all things are helpful" -- Jacob distinguishes between principled pacifism, which he rejects on biblical grounds, and practical pacifism, a posture that treats lethal force as a genuine last resort rather than a celebrated option. Drawing on parallels from free market theory and noncoercive parenting, he argues that when violence is taken off the table as a default, better solutions emerge. The episode also critiques the "I wish a MFer would" ethos in Christian gun culture, revisits the early church's refusal to meet Roman persecution with defensive force, and challenges the binary framing that dominates both foreign policy and personal ethics debates among Christians. The conclusion: permissible is the floor, commendable is the target, and the church has been too quick to stop asking which one it is actually pursuing. Full Episode Notes at BiblicalAnarchyPodcast.com The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!

If Christians cannot serve two masters, how does that play out for voting for people to be in authority or serving in a state military? Full Episode Notes at BiblicalAnarchyPodcast.com The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!

Full Episode Notes at BiblicalAnarchyPodcast.com The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!

This bonus episode was orginally an LCI Green Room livestream with Greg Baus from the Reformed Libertarian podcast to talk about how all authority comes from God, but divine, church, and civil authority aren’t the same thing—and how Christian nationalism tends to blur those lines. We reacted to a Right Response Ministry video (Joel Webbon and others) that said critics misunderstand Christian nationalism and argued the state isn’t religiously neutral. They used the Ten Commandments, Psalm 2 (“kiss the Son”), and Romans 13 to claim rulers should enforce not just laws about harm between neighbors, but also laws against idolatry and false worship. Greg and I pushed back hard, saying they were collapsing divine judgment into civil punishment and never gave a real principle for separating sin from crime, which leads to an unbounded “Christian nanny state.” We also critiqued their handling of Two Kingdoms theology, “general equity,” and what Romans 13 means by “evil.” After that, we listened to a chapel talk by Pastor Matt Cotta, who warned that when Christianity gets used for a political project it turns into a counterfeit faith, and that nationalism becomes an idolatrous rival. He drew a line between nations as people-groups and modern nation-states, argued nation-states enforce unity through coercion, and said the church is Christ’s kingdom—pilgrims and exiles—so worship itself witnesses against giving ultimate loyalty to any earthly nation.

Full Episode Notes at BiblicalAnarchyPodcast.com The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!

Full Episode Notes at BiblicalAnarchyPodcast.com The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!

O Come Emmanuel is often treated like a peaceful Christmas hymn, but its message is far more restless than we remember. In this belated Christmas episode of the Biblical Anarchy Podcast, Jacob Winograd explores how the song reflects Israel’s longing, Christian exile, and the tension of a kingdom that has come but is not yet fully realized. Christmas is not only about celebration; it is also about waiting. It is about living between promise and fulfillment, between Christ’s victory and the world’s resistance. Rather than escaping that tension or trying to solve it with political power, this episode calls Christians to embrace faithful hope, resist false kingdoms, and remain anchored in the reign of Christ. Full Episode Notes at BiblicalAnarchyPodcast.com The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians For Liberty Network, a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute. Audio cleaned up with the Podsworth App!https://podsworth.com Use code LCI50 for 50% off your first order at Podsworth.com to clean up your voice recordings and also support LCI!