Chats & Tatts host, Aaron Della Vedova, is known for pushing the creative boundaries with every artistic medium he works in. However, his full coverage back pieces, rib to legs, and torso tattoos are definitely his specialty. With long hours tattooing well known musicians, athletes, public figures, influencers and many others, Aaron knows that tattooing heavily involves building a relationship, a bond, with his clients. On Chats & Tatts, he dives into those relationships with his clients, helping tell their stories, share their crazy pasts and path, and many times sharing a glimpse into his guests getting a tattoo on the show. Tune in to get a behind the curtain peek at the world of high level artistic tattooing and those who express themselves through this fascinating, diverse medium while radically redefining the art of modern tattooing.
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Pain management is a vital component of the tattooing process that can significantly influence both the client experience and the quality of the final artwork. As discussed in the podcast episode, effective pain management not only helps clients endure longer sessions but also enables tattoo artists to work more efficiently and produce superior results.
This week's guest is renowned tattoo artist Cindy Maxwell, whose stunning, large-format, Japanese-inspired tattoos have captivated many for over 27 years. Hailing from San Francisco, Cindy shares insights into her tattooing journey, her passion for fitness through jiu-jitsu and CrossFit, and her nomadic lifestyle. Join us as we delve into the world of tattooing and explore Cindy's unique perspective on art and life. Don't forget to check out her stunning work on Instagram at @Cindy_Maxwell.
Don't miss this inspiring episode filled with art, passion, and heartfelt stories!
[00:02:03] Collaboration between tattoo artists.
[00:05:08] Numbing cream in tattooing.
[00:11:40] Pain management in tattooing.
[00:15:34] Creating your own life.
[00:17:16] Pursuing an art career.
[00:24:34] Japanese tattoo culture exploration.
[00:32:06] Life in a sprinter van.
[00:34:55] Fear of being ordinary.
[00:39:10] The nature of consciousness.
[00:41:36] Gypsy lifestyle and personal growth.
[00:48:48] Collective energy in tattoo shops.
[00:54:12] Tattoo trends among youth.
[01:01:09] Creative evolution of black tattoos.
[01:06:32] Tattooing and business marketing challenges.
[01:10:05] Tattooing career challenges today.
[01:13:43] Apprenticeship in tattooing today.
Quotes:
"The reality is they're just not ready to go through it at that moment."
"I'm here to be of service, within reason."
"I got into tattooing as a way to get into a group of folks that I felt were nonjudgmental."
"Most of us got into tattooing because we are creative types who don't like being told what to do, and we want to create our own life."
"I've always thought about like, you got to go where you grow."
"I have had this idea for my whole life, I think that there are infinite ways to live a life and it would be a shame to just pick one."
"As people, our best and worst qualities are the same thing. And I realized that cities are the same."
"I think a tattoo can be anything somebody wants it to be."
"You can only take so much from a business that you don't put more back into."
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Control, Discipline, and Meditation ft. Oliver Kenton
2026/01/14
From South Africa to the global tattoo stage, Oliver Kenton didn't follow a straight line — he followed geometry. In this episode of Chats & Tatts with host Aaron Della Vedova, we sit down with Oliver to talk about the long road behind his unmistakable geometric and ornamental tattoo work.
What started as an obsession with pattern, structure, and precision became a way of making sense of movement, identity, and starting over in a new country. Oliver opens up about: Growing up in South Africa and how that environment shaped his eye and why geometry became his language when words weren't enough.
The discipline, patience, and control behind large-scale geometric tattoos, his migration, reinvention, and building a life through art are explored in this open, honest chat. His work isn't about trends — it's about order, balance, and intention. This conversation goes deeper than needles and skin. It's about spirituality and the impact of DMT experiences, finding stability through repetition, carving identity through lines, and trusting the process even when the path isn't clear.
Chat Highlights:
00:00 — Why leaving home shaped everything.
03:48 — How patterns, precision, and repetition became his language.
08:32 — Tattooing as control, discipline, and meditation.
14:10 — Trusting the long game.
19:45 — Large-Scale Commitment
31:06 — Permanence Means Something
42:20 — The Energy Exchange
47:55 — Not Chasing Trends
53:40 — Tattoos as a Record of Time
1:05:00 — What Success Really Looks Like
1:16:20 — Advice for Artists Coming Up
Quotes:
"Geometry gave me order when everything else felt uncertain."
"There was no straight path from South Africa to here — just lines I trusted."
"I don't tattoo trends. I tattoo intention."
"Repetition isn't boring — it's where discipline turns into freedom."
"When someone trusts you with their skin, that responsibility is everything."
"Large-scale work teaches patience — not just to the client, but to the artist."
"Tattooing became the place where chaos finally made sense."
"Every line is a decision you have to stand behind forever."
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Artistry and Empathy: A Conversation with Tattoo Artist Jen Tonic
2025/12/31
Creating a comfortable and empathetic environment for clients during tattoo sessions is essential for enhancing their overall experience and effectively managing pain. In a recent podcast episode featuring tattoo artist Jen Tonic, several strategies were discussed to achieve this goal.
Host Aaron Della Vedova welcomes Jen from Lüneburg, Germany. Jen's unique style blends neo-traditional and large-format decorative elements with a touch of art-nouveau and nature themes, creating stunning pieces that reflect her artistic vision. As the conversation unfolds, Aaron and Jen discuss the nuances of her tattooing process, the importance of creating a comfortable environment for clients, and the seasonal changes in her garden as winter approaches in northern Germany. Tune in for an engaging discussion about art, creativity, and the tattooing process that includes a cozy atmosphere that Jen ensures for her clients.
Listeners are encouraged to check out Jen's captivating work on Instagram (@jentonic) while enjoying this insightful discussion about art, creativity, and the tattooing experience.
Chat Highlights:
[00:03:01] Early influences in art.
[00:04:44] Finding a tattoo apprenticeship.
[00:09:04] Being a woman in tattooing.
[00:18:27] Pain management during tattoo sessions.
[00:19:20] Client comfort during tattooing.
[00:30:10] Finding balance in tattooing.
[00:32:46] Expressing art through looseness.
[00:39:37] Tattoo trends in modern culture.
[00:42:01] Online avatars and self-expression.
[00:46:14] AI's impact on art.
[00:50:11] Analog art in a digital age.
[00:56:48] Passion for tattooing.
[00:57:45] Tattoo career dedication.
Quotes:
"I really want him to lay down be like oh this is actually kind of nice and comfy so okay like maybe I can sit through this."
"I always wanted to have my own style... I want it to be recognizable."
"I almost didn't get the apprenticeship because there was one guy in the shop who didn't want a woman in the shop."
"I think the big thing there is with Instagram, and just the internet in general, it's kind of like evens the playing field."
"These little creature comforts send a message and the message is I'm not here to hurt you. I just want to make beautiful art with you."
"I've realized that it's okay to also have other things going on that basically give me more energy so I don't burn out on my job as a tattooer."
"Tattooing does not only exist within perfect lines, I think."
"I suspect this, and Scott Campbell, really smart tattooer from Los Angeles, brought this up to me, and I think he's right: people can express themselves now through their social content."
"I don't think anyone's going to end up with a thriving tattoo career that doesn't give it everything they've got in those early years."
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#102: Erotica, Leather, and Tattooing ft. "Savage" Sal Leon
2025/12/17
Sal Leon has developed a niche in traditional tattooing with an erotic gay flair, setting him apart from other artists in San Diego. This distinctiveness not only attracts a loyal client base but also fosters a sense of community among those who resonate with that particular style.
Sal shares his journey through the tattooing world, highlighting the unique intersection of his identity as a gay man and his artistic expression through traditional tattooing with an erotic flair. This discussion with host Aaron Della Vedova opens up a broader conversation about the evolution of tattooing, particularly within the LGBTQ+ community, and the importance of community support in navigating the challenges of the industry.
The conversation celebrates individuality, creativity, and the vibrant community of artists dedicated to expressing their authentic voices. Join us for an inspiring exploration of art, creativity, and the tattoo culture that embraces the weird and different!
Chat Highlights:
00:00:00 - The Importance of Unique Styles in Tattooing
00:00:51 - Oversaturation in the Tattoo Industry
00:03:10 - Sal's Background and Coming Out Story
00:06:20 - Meeting His Husband and Early Career
00:10:42 - Transition to Piercing
00:12:00 - The Leather Community Explained
00:14:16 - Leather Community and Tattooing
00:19:11 - Incorporating Male Figures in Traditional Tattoos
00:23:02 - Differences in Gay and Queer Tattoo Scenes
00:25:03 - Erotic Themes in Tattoos
00:30:00 - What Makes a Great Tattoo
00:36:29 - Changes in the Tattoo Industry
00:41:16 - Supporting Local Community
00:45:42 - AI and Tattoo Art
Quotes:
"Leather community, I think it's more for like the misfits of the queer community."
"I think, in hindsight, it's good going through experiences like that. Those s****y experiences to finally, when you get to a nice point, to really appreciate it."
"Getting tattooed in a big way is a way to express... it's just different people in different walks of life expressing their particular walk of life through collecting a tattoo."
"A great tattoo is a great experience."
"If you're an artist out there, or even a younger artist that's coming into this, man, I would say draw and create with your own mind and your own hand as much as possible."
"I see this slipping away of what makes us human, like this, sitting here talking to you, getting to know you one-on-one, face-to-face."
"I also believe that we're most likely in a simulation that reflects our deepest thoughts about reality."
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#101: Mushrooms, Mayans, and Masterpieces ft. Freddy Jay
2025/12/03
Freddy Jay's journey into tattooing is a captivating story of unexpected beginnings and unwavering commitment. At the age of 19, he found himself at a crossroads in life, having once aspired to become a pilot due to his love for surfing and the freedom it represented. However, as he matured, he realized that the life of a pilot was not meant for him. Instead, he began to explore his creative side, which ultimately led him to the world of tattooing.
In this episode of Chats and Tatts, host Aaron Della Vedova returns to his home studio, bringing a vibrant tribal energy to the conversation. Joined by Freddy, the duo explores the fascinating spiritual practices of ancient civilizations, focusing on the Mayans and Aztecs. Aaron shares his unique experience of micro-dosing mushrooms to enhance the episode's vibe, drawing parallels between the Mayans' pursuit of knowledge and intellect through plant medicine and the more aggressive, corporate nature of the Aztecs. Tune in for an enlightening discussion that delves into the spiritual connections of the past and their significance in understanding our own artistic and spiritual journeys.
Chat Highlights:
[00:01:09] Aztec and Mayan energy.
[00:04:01] Artistic journey through tattooing.
[00:09:08] Polynesian tattoo inspiration.
[00:12:44] Mentorship in the tattoo industry.
[00:15:38] Tattoo apprenticeship challenges.
[00:22:17] Different times of tattooing culture.
[00:24:39] Tattooing as a personal journey.
[00:28:01] Cultural influences in tattooing.
[00:30:40] Toltec traditions and philosophy.
[00:34:45] Mayan head shaping practices.
[00:38:16] Celebration of physical differences.
[00:42:27] Ancient civilizations and new discoveries.
[00:46:40] Travel and cultural inspiration.
[00:52:01] Immersing in Mexican culture.
[00:54:44] Cultural sensitivity in tattooing.
[00:59:29] Cultural fusion in art.
[01:01:47] Adventure in tattooing.
Quotes:
"I micro-dosed a healthy little portion of mushrooms in my coffee today for this episode."
"I mean I barely know how to tattoo I f*****g scratched this Indian into this guy's chest."
"I think you grow under pressure, but not under fear, if I should put it into those words."
"Everything is meant to be in some funny way."
"You have to get more into your intuitive self and feel your way through life versus relying on."
"You're left with a very small human population and most likely the smart ones, the ones that know how to build pyramids, they're probably the first ones to die."
"If you really want to do something that's different from where you are, you need to seek the place, you need to seek the people, you need to seek the culture."
"We're all one, we're all one thing, you know, we all are human, we all should love and care for one another."
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#100: Tattoos and Sacred Geometry ft. Dillon Forte
2025/11/19
The belief in separation is a fundamental issue that contributes to ignorance and suffering. Recognizing our interconnectedness could lead to a more harmonious existence. This idea is deeply explored in the podcast episode featuring host Aaron Della Vedova and guest Dillon Forte, who discuss the implications of viewing reality through the lens of separation versus interconnectedness.
Dillon is a renowned tattoo artist located in Austin, TX, and is credited with helping to launch the geometric tattoo movement in the U.S. in the early 2010s. The conversation blends art, spirituality, and the transformative power of tattoos, making for an engaging and thought-provoking episode for lovers of both art and deeper contemplation.
Whether you're an art lover, a tattoo enthusiast, or someone intrigued by the nature of reality, this episode promises engaging conversations and thought-provoking ideas.
Chat Highlights:
[00:03:01] Measurement of reality through geometry.
[00:05:44] Ancient origins of the flower..
[00:12:25] Technology versus nature awakening.
[00:21:09] Belief in inseparability from nature.
[00:31:45] Maya, the Grand Illusion.
[00:37:36] Simulation theory as illusion.
[00:44:46] AI's impact on humanity.
[00:54:17] Tattoo robots and human artistry.
[01:02:05] Strategic relocation for safety.
[01:12:02] Living an honest life.
[01:19:12] Experimental tattooing techniques.
[01:24:50] Community support in tattoo culture.
[01:27:38] Art of giving and receiving.
[01:30:56] Tattooing in Austin, Texas.
Quotes:
"I think what would save the world would be simply our release of the false belief of separation."
"In all of nature, there is a fundamental order, a structure behind all of it."
"Is that us offloading consciousness into the thing that we can travel the universe with because we can't do it in bodies like this?"
"We don't need additives. We need to remove what's unnecessary, not just keep filling."
"I think the false belief of inanimate separateness is the root of ignorance, which is the root of suffering."
"Maya the Grand Illusion, we have been talking about this, we are aware of this, not new. Reality being an illusion. We know it's an illusion."
"The big bang is the breath of Brahma."
"It's definitely a paradigm shift, and maybe not bad. Maybe we're supposed to have machines doing stuff for us so we can make music and write poetry and follow our passions and our dreams."
"Prepared as much as anyone can be, mentally, physically, spiritually, as much as you can be. And then after that, drop the fear and just live."
"If your heart is heavier than the feather, your heart is fed to the crocodile deity, devoured for eternity in all damnation."
"If you focus on love, light, truth, all the good stuff, we shall persevere."
"You've got to start looking out there at the people that are getting tattooed, and you've got to find a way to find out what their needs are, what they want, and find a way to fill it."
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#99: The Intimacy of Tebori with Horikei
2025/11/05
Tebori tattooing, a traditional Japanese hand-poked method, is more than just a technique; it embodies a philosophy that emphasizes a profound human connection and energy transfer between the tattoo artist and the client. Practiced for thousands of years, this method involves using a long stick with needles attached to the end, allowing the artist to create tattoos without the aid of machines. This simplicity lies at the heart of the Tebori experience, fostering a unique and intimate atmosphere during the tattooing process, and our guest today is one of the masters of this craft.
In this episode of Chats & Tatts, host Aaron Della Vedova welcomes Rueben "Horikei" Kayden, a seasoned tattoo artist with 26 years of experience, to discuss the evolution of tattooing. The conversation delves into the past, present, and future of the industry, exploring how it has rapidly transformed over the years. The guest shares valuable insights, particularly about tabori tattooing, the traditional Japanese hand-poked method that has been practiced for thousands of years. Aaron and his guest reflect on the significance of this ancient technique in contrast to modern tattooing practices, setting the stage for a deep dive into the art and culture of tattooing.
Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that highlights the artistry and craftsmanship behind tattoos.
Chat Highlights:
[00:01:06] Future of tattooing.
[00:06:17] Tattooing in Japan.
[00:10:28] Energy transfer in tattooing.
[00:17:09] Spirituality in craftsmanship.
[00:31:56] Tabori technique challenges.
[00:36:08] Power of simplicity in tattoos.
[00:46:10] Tattoo pain management techniques.
[00:49:23] Tattooing under anesthesia discussion.
[00:58:19] Tattoo past, present, and future.
[01:01:22] The beauty of impermanence.
[01:05:04] Future of handmade artistry.
[01:07:19] Tattooing as a lifestyle choice.
[01:12:00] Traditional Japanese tattooing.
Quotes:
"We're tattooers, man. We're not in the business of being people's, you know, helping them be more personally responsible with their lives." -Aaron
"It's a human to human contact. There's no electrons, there's no machine, there's no rotary, there's no cartridge, there's no nothing. It's simplicity at its best, right? It's art made by humans for humans." -Horikei
"You're like a horse with blinders on. You're just like the smell, you know, smell, sight, emotions, all of it's all interconnected." -Horikei
"I just know it's happening and it's beautiful and it's really become probably the thing I'm most happy about to have spent my life doing this art form." -Aaron
"Tebori is a human rhythm... it rocks you to sleep." -Horikei
"It was more dangerous to drive the fucking car than it was to go in under anesthesia." -Aaron
"We're tattooers, man. We're not in the business of being people's, you know, helping them be more personally responsible with their lives." -Aaron
"Comparison is the thief of all joy, man, for sure." -Horikei
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#98: Queen of Neo Trad ft. Fiori Lorett
2025/10/22
Inspiration for creativity often arises from active engagement rather than a passive search for it. This concept is vividly illustrated in the conversation between host Aaron Della Vedova his guest Fior Lorett, a seasoned tattoo artist. Fiori emphasizes that her creative process is deeply intertwined with her daily artistic practice. She states, "the more I do, the more inspired I may be," highlighting that involvement in the creative process itself can ignite new ideas and motivation.
Fiori shares insights into her unique neo-traditional style, which features an ornamental flair, and discusses her artistic journey and the influences that shape her work. The conversation explores the pressures of the creative process and the importance of finding joy in one's craft. Tune in to discover what it takes to maintain a prolific career in tattoo artistry and the personal experiences that drive Fiori's creative expression. Don't forget to check out her stunning artwork on Instagram @fiori_lorett
Chat Highlights:
00:01:26 - Fiori's Tattoo Style
00:02:46 - Early Life and Family Background
00:05:05 - It All Started with Henna
00:07:04 - First Encounter with Tattooing
00:12:00 - Opening a Shop at 15
00:18:05 - Travel and Uncomfortableness as Inspiration
00:28:06 - Gypsy Lifestyle and Settling Down
00:32:47 - Challenges for Women in Tattooing
00:43:10 - What Makes a Great Tattoo
00:46:07 - Current Tattoo Trends and Future Predictions
00:50:37 - Self-Esteem Through Tattooing.
00:58:33 - You Have to Be All In as a Tattoo Artist
Quotes:
"I tell myself every day that I chose this, this work chose me, and I do it because it's fun."
"I work to have inspiration. And the more I do, the more inspired I may be."
"I need to get out there and be uncomfortable."
"The act of doing it provides the inspiration. Versus find inspiration so I can do it."
"Now you get a young person that their expression to the world is their online presence."
"It's almost like sometimes I see that people are doing tattoos for people that don't like tattoos."
"If you're not all in, if you're not really passionate and talented... You're probably not even going to make a living."
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#97: A Body of Work: The Matt Jordan Episode
2025/10/08
In this episode, host Aaron Della Vedova delves into the importance of creating art for oneself rather than for external approval, highlighting the personal connection and significance behind each piece of work. The discussion with New Zealand-based tattoo artist Matt Jordan emphasizes the value of handmade artistry in an increasingly digital world, celebrating the unique and analog nature of tattooing. Matt is a phenomenal tattoo artist whose work has left a lasting impression on many.
"What are you going to do to separate yourself? What are you going to do so that you can look at your work and be like, yeah, that's fucking, I love that."
This statement underscores the idea that true satisfaction in art comes from creating something meaningful to the artist. When artists focus on their own beliefs and values, they produce work that reflects their unique perspectives, resulting in a sense of pride and ownership.
Tune in for a deep dive into the passion and dedication that fuels the tattooing craft, and discover how personal expression can lead to a renaissance in creativity.
Chat Highlights:
[00:01:05] Art made by hand.
[00:04:18] Tattooing legacy and personal journey.
[00:09:01] Passion for tattooing journey.
[00:15:54] Learning through mentorship moments.
[00:24:58] Learning how to refine art.
[00:29:05] Quitting tattooing for painting.
[00:40:00] Creative transition in tattooing.
[00:44:25] Tattoos as fine art.
[00:50:00] Tattoo exhibition and photography.
[01:03:47] Family-infused tattoo experience.
[01:09:37] Tattooing as a rite of passage.
[01:13:00] Pushing creative boundaries in tattooing.
Quotes:
"I think if more people can realize that, like this is our renaissance, you know?"
"I wanted to feel like a real artist, you know, because people were like, oh, you know, it's just tattoos."
"Art was the ability to create something novel, to use your imagination to create something that maybe people haven't seen before."
"I'm just doing it. I'm just actually f*****g putting my phone down and trying."
"You can only give people what you have. If you're not inspired, you're not going to inspire anybody, you know?"
"I just f*****g ran with it and it snowballed and changed over the past decade."
"If you treat it anything less than that, you need to f*****g re-evaluate."
"My goal is like, is how far can I push this? What's possible? And I wanna see how far I can go."
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#96: The Art of Surrender - Greyson Savo's Story of Recovery, Tattoos, and Redemption
2025/09/24
The journey of healing and transformation can be catalyzed by profound life experiences, such as accidents, which compel individuals to confront their past and redefine their identity. This theme is vividly illustrated in the story of Greyson Savo, who endured a life-altering accident that not only changed his physical state but also prompted deep introspection and a transformation of his identity, including the incredible covering of his scars by tattoo artist Patrick Sweeney ( https://www.instagram.com/patricksweeneyart ).
In this episode of "Chats and Tatts," host Aaron Della Vedova explores the multifaceted meanings of tattoos, drawing on over 30 years of experience in the tattoo industry. He reflects on the deeper significance of tattoos beyond their aesthetic value, emphasizing that, in the grand scheme of life, the relationships and memories we create hold far greater importance.
Tune in for insights on the emotional and personal connections people have with their tattoos, and how these body art forms can encapsulate significant moments in our lives.
Chat Highlights:
00:00:00 - Thoughts on Tattoos
00:05:30 - What Happened to Greyson Savo?
00:06:39 - The Defining Accident
00:10:35 - Hospital and Rehabilitation Journey
00:18:38 - Near-Death Experience and Spiritual Awakening
00:23:07 - Pre-Accident Beliefs and Spirituality
00:26:08 - Post-Accident Transformation
00:30:01 - The Significance of the Dragon Tattoo
00:36:29 - Processing Pain Through Tattooing
00:40:34 - Life's Lessons and Challenges
00:43:48 - Helping Others Through Shared Experience
Quotes:
"Trust me, when you're taking your last breath, you will not be thinking about tattoos that are on your body."
"What I always say when I get to a point where I think I have the right decision at hand is f**k it."
"I was ejected from a convertible going 110 miles an hour on the 99 freeway in the midst of the night."
"I asked my mom in the hospital, I'm hardly talking, and I asked her for a shot of tequila."
"If I don't know something and I'm not going to trust that it's going to be better for me than what my limited imagination can come up with, then I'm going to be afraid."
"It's a moral compass that most people call God."
"I'm alive. And he hugged me and he just hugged me tight. And he said, I've been waiting for this to happen. Welcome home, son."
"Life is the art of surrender."
"Life finally was like, okay, we're going to send you a very, very big wake up call, a clear picture, a very clear picture."
"We don't have to go through shit alone. We're not supposed to, right?"
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#95: Breaking Barriers - Heather McLean (Hyphaea) on Women in Tattooing
2025/09/10
The evolution of tattooing from a taboo, underground culture to a widely accepted art form has significantly transformed the industry's dynamics, impacting both artists and clients in various ways. In the early days of tattooing, particularly in the 1990s, the culture was largely underground and associated with rebellion.
In this episode of Chats and Tatts, host Aaron Della Vedova takes a unique approach by conducting the first-ever remote podcast on the show, reaching out to guests who are unable to join in person. He welcomes tattoo artist Heather McLean, known on Instagram as Hyphaea, who specializes in large-format, decorative, illustrative black and gray tattoos. Aaron encourages listeners to check out Heather's stunning work in real-time while they listen. The conversation dives into the intricacies of tattoo artistry, the creative process, and the importance of maintaining a strong sense of self in the industry, despite external opinions.
The conversation also touches on the challenges and perceptions of women in the tattoo industry. Tune in for an engaging discussion that fuses creativity and personal insights that celebrate artistic expression and individuality.
Chat Breakdown:
03:37 Tattoo inspiration from grandpa.
10:01 Women in the tattooing industry.
15:18 Tattoo culture's underground origins.
19:52 Judgment among tattoo artists.
39:34 Emotional connection through tattooing.
49:03 Tattoo energy and emotional impact.
1:04:54 Nature as a spiritual escape.
01:10:19 Human perspective vs. AI creativity.
1:25:44 Nature conservation and personal responsibility.
Quotes:
"In 1999, a girl saying, I'm going to become a tattoo artist. She was like, that's the equivalent of saying I'm going to run away and join the circus."
"Being professional is great, but being fake is not something that I really have enjoyed ever."
"I have a goal, I'm here, I'm getting to here, either you're helping me get there or you're in the way."
"No one's asking me for my fucking opinion and I don't want to engage in a troll war online."
"Tattooing has turned from a thing where it used to be more about ego and now it's more about service."
"I've got a lot of extra energy today to share, because I'm feeling great. Your cup is very empty, and I swear to that process, they almost leave more filled up."
"I think it's okay to be like, yes, I'm a tattooer, but I'm also holding space for you when this difficult thing is happening."
"It's like being haunted almost. There are ghosts to every experience."
"The most enlightened people... just want to help. It's just completely egoless at that point."
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Art, Identity, and the Evolution of Tattoo Culture ft. Filip Leu
2025/08/27
The evolution of tattooing has been profoundly shaped by artistic trends and public perception, particularly in recent years. As discussed in the podcast episode featuring one of the world's most prolific and respected tattoo artists, Filip Leu, there has been a significant shift towards realism in tattoo art, which has gained popularity among both artists and clients.
Aaron Della Vedova and Filip reflect on their early careers, noting that while there were many skilled tattoo artists, the quality of art varied widely, with a considerable number of less experienced practitioners. Today, however, the standards have risen dramatically, making it increasingly challenging for newcomers to distinguish themselves.
In this episode, sponsored by Bishop Tattoo Supply ( https://bishoptattoosupply.com/ ), we dive into Filip's inspiring journey, a groundbreaking figure in the tattoo world known for his large-format body suits. Aaron also shares a personal reflection on how discovering Filip's work transformed his approach to tattooing, shifting from traditional small designs to ambitious, expansive compositions that beautifully adorn the human body. The episode highlights Filip's influence on artists and enthusiasts alike, celebrating his role as a hero in the tattoo community. Additionally, the host discusses the Tattoo Heritage Project, founded by Good Time Charlie, which is dedicated to preserving American tattoo history. Listeners are encouraged to explore the project's initiatives, including a traveling tattoo museum and the newly debuted film "Dare to Dream."
Tune in for an episode filled with passion, inspiration, and a deep appreciation for the art of tattooing.
Chat Breakdown:
00:01:15 - Tattoo Heritage Project
00:03:06 - Art Techniques and Body Drawing
00:04:06 - Filip Leu's Tattooing Career and Workload
00:07:00 - Tattooing Techniques and Longevity
00:09:15 - Physical Challenges in Tattooing
00:11:25 - Realism in Tattooing and Its Longevity
00:16:02 - Challenges for New Tattoo Artists
00:20:01 - The Meaning and Motivation Behind Tattoos
00:23:16 - Facial Tattoos and Extreme Body Modifications
00:26:08 - Ignorant Style Tattoos and Full Black Arms
00:30:00 - Spiritual and Philosophical Reflections on Tattooing
00:37:00 - Robotics and the Future of Tattooing
00:39:31 - DNA and Human Progress
00:44:01 - Lessons from DMT and Life Reflections
00:54:03 - Life-changing experience in Varanasi.
01:02:30 - Energy exchange in tattooing.
01:21:06 - Tattoo machine technology and preferences.
Quotes:
"What's the colour that heals the fastest? And I didn't get it right, because the answer is skin."
"Tattooing seems to me at this phase as this process of elimination almost. It's like we're spending our whole careers figuring out what we didn't need to do."
"The public is steering where tattooing is going."
"I was taken aback that I didn't have, until now, The f*****g balls to do that to somebody's body, because it's so individual, so distinct, such a statement, artistically speaking."
"It's all a way for me to, or a person to say, look at me. I'm a unique individual. I'm not just a number. I'm different."
"That's the other side of tattooing, the big f**k you."
"What's the point of worrying about shit you can't f*****g change or control?"
"I refuse to feel guilty for the way I want to waste my life. It's my life to waste."
"I guess for each person would have to answer that question. I'm thinking about myself right now and being honest enough to admit a lot of it, I think it's my ego."
"I walked out of that afternoon like, oh my god, I'm a meat puppet. I'm a meat bag. Like, wow, this is not permanent."
"A very sensitive art student would never have made it. He couldn't survive that environment."
"I went back and cried in the hotel that night, told my mom I couldn't go back the next day, because I realized how shit I was."
"It's when it goes all wrong, right, it's all pear-shaped, and suddenly you realize just what a fucked up, job it is. It's so hard."
"Let go of all these dragons and demons and skulls and samurais and all this shit and let's just get into the beauty of decorating."
"You'll fucking blow a line out, like, on a shin bone or something, like, you know, quickly."
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Building a Legacy: Henning Jorgensen on Tattooing and Community
2025/08/13
The significance of physical and mental well-being for tattoo artists cannot be overstated, especially given the demanding nature of the profession. Tattooing requires not only artistic skill but also physical endurance and mental resilience. In the podcast episode, both Henning Jorgensen and host Aaron Della Vedova emphasize the importance of maintaining one's body and mind to ensure a long and successful career in tattooing.
In this episode of Chats and Tatts, Aaron welcomes the legendary tattoo artist Henning Jorgensen at the renowned Gods of Ink tattoo convention in Frankfurt, Germany. Aaron expresses his admiration for Henning, describing him as a significant figure in tattoo history, someone he has looked up to since his early days in the industry. The conversation delves into the dynamics of tattoo conventions, the evolution of tattoo art, and the personal connections that bring artists together.
Join them for an insightful discussion that celebrates the art of tattooing and the legacy of its pioneers.
01:53 - Convention Experiences
03:37 - Maintaining Health and Longevity
05:08 - Yoga and Physical Well-being
09:00 - Early Tattoo Experiences
00:10:33 - Starting to Tattoo
14:28 - Learning from Legends
22:21 - Learning from Paul Rogers
23:44 - Establishing Royal Tattoo
25:03 - Japanese and Traditional Tattoos
28:04 - The Meaning of Tattooing
32:28 - Evolution of Tattoo Portfolios
36:34 - Industry Changes and Challenges
41:05 - Balancing Personal Life and Tattooing
42:28 - The Artist's Life and Obsession
43:12 - Tattoo Schools vs. Traditional Apprenticeships
44:26 - Advice for Aspiring Tattoo Artists
Quotes:
"I am in a new chapter of my life where I want to come out and be a part of the tattoo world in a bigger way than I have been before."
"But Henry was kind enough to show me and teach me how to, you know, dip your needles in hexol, you know, so they didn't rust."
"Well, nobody knows history is being made when you're in the middle of being made."
"But you certainly aren't going to end up where guys like us end up. And that's the most beautiful gift of it all."
"You've got to do things legitimately, authentically."
"You are not going to survive like that anymore. You have to be a top-performing tattooer."
"To be great as a musician, a sculptor, any of these things, to be not even great, just good... you have to become a little bit consumed, obsessed."
"If you love it enough, you don't need a tattoo school."
"This space, this world we live in, the tattoo world, is a much better place with you in it."
"I count my blessings every day. And I wouldn't be without it now, for sure."
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Building Confidence as a Tattoo Artist ft. Chris Crooks
2025/07/30
The desire to pursue a passion can be a powerful motivator for individuals, often driving them to learn and grow despite feelings of unqualification or inexperience. This theme is vividly illustrated in this podcast episode featuring tattoo artist Chris Crooks, who shares his journey into the world of tattooing with host Aaron Della Vedova.
From a young age, Chris was immersed in tattoo culture, with both of his grandfathers and his father sporting tattoos. This early exposure ignited a desire within him to become a tattoo artist, even before he fully understood the craft. He reflects on how the "desire to do it was bigger than the capabilities," highlighting a common experience among many who pursue their passions. This intrinsic motivation propelled him to acquire the skills necessary for success in tattooing, despite his initial lack of experience.
Aaron sits down with Chris at Gods of Ink in Frankfurt, Germany. Aaron reflects on the tattoo artist journey that is rarely straightforward and lacks a clear roadmap. The conversation explores the intricacies of the tattooing process and the passion that fuels artists in this creative field. Tune in for insights into the art of tattooing and the stories behind the ink.
Chat Breakdown:
00:00:00 - Overcoming Limitations
00:02:00 - Family Influence: Tattoos in the Family
00:03:56 - Ignorance and Confidence
00:04:56 - Imposter Syndrome: The Ongoing Struggle
00:06:25 - The Role of Ignorance and Confidence in Success
00:07:19 - Validation from Peers
00:11:06 - The Value of Hard Work: Learning the Craft
00:18:02 - Being Nice Pays Off
00:19:05 - The Global Tattoo Scene: Breaking Stereotypes
00:22:08 - The Digital Age: Accelerating the Craft
00:26:11 - Gratefulness and Opportunity in Tattooing
00:30:19 - The Pyramid of Tattooing
00:34:46 - The Pressure of Large Format Tattoos
00:37:23 - The Shift to Japanese Style:
00:44:15 - Empathy and Self-Protection
00:49:15 Work-life Balance and Creativity
01:01:45 Cultural Appreciation Through Music
01:15:04 Tattooing as a Human Experience
01:19:10 Inspiration in Tattooing
Quotes:
"The desire to do it is always stronger than the being able to do it."
"Ignorance and confidence of youth... you had nothing to lose."
"We have to allow ourselves to make mistakes and we have to be OK with those mistakes and not just beat ourselves up to the point where we are stifled."
"Just cover it with Vaseline. When your tattoo looks like shit, just at the end, just wad a lot of Vaseline so they can barely see what's going on."
"Just being nice to people. And then just that little bit of drawing for them or whatever, just a tiny bit of extra, it just naturally is what I felt like I wanted to do."
"If you wanna come in right now, you better end up being f*****g really good at this."
"I just, I'm always curious, like, where'd that little part of me go?"
"Don't ever betray yourself by being indecisive and waking up and find yourself in a position that, you know, if you had a clone, it would tell you don't do it?"
"Tattooing is like this, this lifestyle, find a decision, make the decision, go all in."
"The biggest stumbling blocks for white guys aspiring to do Japanese stuff is other white guys that have been doing it longer."
"You have to engage with people... it's a new community and you have to treat people with the same respect you would in real life."
"Something was ignited in me that I haven't felt in a long time, and I think I needed it."
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Ink and Energy: Exploring the Artist/Client Bond ft. Anthony Tex
2025/07/16
In this episode of Chats and Tatts, host Aaron Della Vadova connects with talented tattoo artist Anthony Tex at the prestigious Gods of Ink convention in Frankfurt, Germany. They delve into the unique energy exchange that occurs during tattoo sessions, discussing the bond formed between artist and client during these intimate and vulnerable moments. Anthony shares insights about his 13-year journey in the tattoo industry, including his apprenticeship under his father, James, who has been tattooing for 26 years. The conversation highlights Anthony's unexpected path to becoming a tattoo artist, revealing how a childhood fascination evolved into a flourishing career, and being runner up to his dad on season 16 of Ink Masters.
Tune in for an engaging discussion about artistry, mentorship, and the world of tattoos!
Chat Breakdown:
01:50 - Choosing Tattooing Over Other Careers
02:12 - Family and Early Exposure to Tattooing
03:41 - Experience on Ink Master
05:02 - Importance of Illustrating and Drawing in Tattooing
07:57 - What Makes a Great Tattoo
09:47 - Composition and Placement in Tattooing
12:06 - Importance of Body Flow and Placement
15:26 - Spiritual and Emotional Connection in Tattooing
20:16 - Client Trust and Artistic Freedom
23:32 - Handling Client Feedback and Adjustments
26:38 - Growth and Learning Through Travel and Guest Spots
29:41 - Slowdown in the Tattoo Industry
32:18 - Saturation and Competition in the Tattoo Industry
35:58 - Concerns About AI Replacing Human Tattoo Artists
38:13 - Authenticity in Tattoo Art Creation
Quotes:
"There seems to be some kind of energy exchange when you tattoo somebody, like a bond that is created."
"I think there was always talent. I think it's, you know, a lot of people don't want to, maybe show their failures or their weaknesses, you know, show vulnerability."
"It turned for me from the idea of putting a tattoo on somebody into the idea of like decorating a human body."
"If you think everyone's a dick, then you're a f*****g dick... You're just attracting... What's your problem?"
"If you're trying to become the best tattooer possible, I don't think you should do that. Secluding yourself like that is going to stifle your growth."
"I can't fathom not ever tattooing and just doing something else."
"I think just reach out of that box a little bit. Try something new."
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MaMu-33! 2023/12/08
Great podcast!!
Really interesting guests!! Aaron’s guests are a really diverse group of guests. The guests have different backgrounds and you never really know what ...
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Amir_armendariz_art 2023/07/27
Refreshing!
This podcast is amazing, includes everyone, not just amazing tattooers but people that influences others in so many ways and amazing clients that make...
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Tattoo collector 2023/07/18
Great idea for a podcast!
Aaron did an amazing job collaborating with the best artists out there! Good concept and execution.
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LOPINGHT 2023/05/10
Great show
Love this show!! The host is amazing!!
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landonswat 2023/02/02
So much more that tattoos
Love the energy, the depth. Great work Aaron
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Boogie bangs 330 2023/02/02
Great tattoos, better people.
Aaron maybe one of the most genuine humans I’ve had the pleasure of messaging with. His guests and their conversations have been and I’m sure will con...
★★★★★
xOBAMAx2012x 2023/02/02
Excellent Interviews!
Very interesting interviews & topics, Aaron is a natural at this.
Looking forward to future conversations.
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@_sun_dragon_tattoo_ 2023/01/31
Great Podcast!
Loving this new podcast, thank you and keep up the good work!
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bryansummite 2023/01/30
Amazing Podcast
Can’t wait to hear more! Love the host and guests.
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Dellavee 2023/01/28
Thank you!
After 30 years of tattooing I found myself reflecting on what I had experienced and learned through this journey and how I might be able to express so...