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In this episode, I sit down with Adam and Judith Nisenson to discuss the often overlooked experiences of women who betray and men who are betrayed. Cheating doesn’t just happen to women, men get betrayed too. Links: Apsats.org https://www.betrayalshrink.com/ https://open.spotify.com/show/1MQanETH3GogBFRhyx4lE9 https://www.womenswrk.com/ https://www.betrayalshrink.com/blog-resources/categories/men-get-cheated-on-too-podcast

What happens when one research study challenges an entire field? In this episode of Betrayal Recovery Radio, Dr. Jake Porter sits down with Barb Steffens, founding president of APSATS, to discuss the origins of betrayal trauma treatment and the research that helped transform how betrayed partners are understood and supported. Barb shares the story behind her groundbreaking doctoral research, which found that a significant majority of partners discovering hidden sexual betrayal exhibited symptoms consistent with PTSD. At a time when betrayed partners were often viewed through a codependency lens, her work helped establish a trauma-informed framework that would eventually reshape treatment, training, and advocacy efforts across the field. Together, Jake and Barb explore the development of the Multidimensional Partner Trauma Model, the founding of APSATS, the challenges of introducing a new paradigm, and the remarkable growth of a movement that continues to impact betrayed partners and professionals around the world. Whether you're a betrayed partner, a helping professional, or simply interested in the history of betrayal trauma recovery, this conversation offers an inspiring look at how courage, research, and advocacy helped change the conversation for countless individuals and couples. Links: https://apsats.org https://daringventures.com

Empathy is often praised as the key to connection—but why does it sometimes fail? This episode introduces a more nuanced and multidimensional understanding of empathy—one that distinguishes between knowing, feeling, and responding. Drawing from research, clinical insight, and real-world examples, the conversation examines how empathy can succeed, where it often breaks down, and how a deeper understanding of empathy can lead to stronger connection, clearer communication, and healthier relationships. Links: https://apsats.org https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevie-cotet-hall-phd-lpc-s-csat-s-694a0044/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/stevie-cotet-hall-dallas-tx/364054

What happens when betrayal is no longer just about safety, but about justice? In this episode, Dr. Jake Porter sits down with Janice Caudill and Dorit Reichental to explore post-traumatic embitterment and why some betrayed partners feel stuck long after the initial trauma. They unpack the difference between fear-based trauma and injustice-based suffering, and why traditional healing approaches sometimes fall short. Links: https://apsats.org https://drjakeporter.comhttps://intensivehope.com/pages/about/people/janice-caudill.html https://www.doritreichental.com

In this episode of Betrayal Recovery Radio, Dr. Jake Porter and Elia Markham discuss the complexities of betrayal, particularly focusing on its impact on adolescents. Elia shares her personal experiences with betrayal and how it shaped her understanding as both a coach and a parent. The conversation delves into the emotional turmoil faced by teens in high-conflict family situations, the importance of maintaining normalcy, and the need for parents to create a safe and stable environment. They emphasize the significance of empathy, setting boundaries, and the resilience of children amidst chaos. Elia also introduces Turning to Peace Magazine, a resource aimed at supporting those affected by betrayal. Ellia Marcum works one on one with teens impacted by the rupture of betrayal trauma, helping them rebuild emotional safety, regulation, and trust after family and relational disruption. Through Mood Well Coaching, she offers trauma informed support that meets teens where they are developmentally while guiding them toward resilience, clarity, and healthy coping. Ellia is the editor of Turning To Peace, a digital magazine that centralizes resources and expert guidance for partners healing from betrayal trauma. The publication offers faith grounded education, practical tools, and compassionate support designed to help individuals move forward with greater stability and understanding. Links: ⁠http://apsats.org⁠ ⁠http://drjakeporter.com/breakingbarriers⁠ Find more on Ellia: moodwellcoaching.com https://ttpmagazine.gumroad.com/l/turningtopeace This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this episode of Betrayal Recovery Radio, Dr. Jake Porter and Kim Hansen Petroni discuss the concept of 'Not a Casserole Widow,' exploring the unique challenges faced by women navigating divorce and betrayal. They delve into the emotional complexities of disenfranchised grief, the disorienting experience of the court system, and the importance of support systems. Kim shares insights from her own journey, emphasizing the need for women to advocate for themselves and find new ways to reframe their realities during this challenging time. The conversation also highlights the significance of understanding the difference between justice and fairness in legal proceedings, and the importance of emotional regulation throughout the divorce process. Links: ⁠http://apsats.org⁠ https://helpafterbetrayal.com Find more on Kim: https://www.coachinghope4u.com https://www.coachinghope4u.com/notacasserolewidow https://www.instagram.com/coachinghope4u This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this episode, I talk with Jeanne Vattuone and Tim Stein about their new book Finding the Way Through. We explore how recovery from sexual addiction must include partner sensitivity from the very beginning, not just to support the partner, but to build empathy and relational integrity in the addict. We also talk about their “fence” metaphor, how couples can heal while staying differentiated, and how real transformation goes far beyond sobriety. APSATS Links: ⁠http://apsats.org⁠ ⁠http://drjakeporter.com/breakingbarriers⁠ Tim and Jeanne: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Way-Through-Pornography-Sensitivity/dp/B0DTFM2VHK https://iitap.com/page/vattuone_stein This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this episode of Betrayal Recovery Radio, Dr. Jake Porter and Carol Sheets discuss the complexities of infidelity and its distinction from compulsive sexual behavior. They explore the emotional impact of betrayal on relationships, the importance of rebuilding trust and values, and the role of empathy in the healing process. The conversation also delves into post-traumatic growth, emphasizing how couples can emerge stronger from their experiences. Practical tools and strategies for couples navigating recovery are shared, highlighting the importance of gratitude and meaningful connections in the healing journey. Carol Juergensen Sheets, ACSW, LCSW, CSAT, CCPS-C, PCC is a highly regarded social worker, personal life coach and a renowned self-help author who brings a variety of experiences to her clients and readers including having worked in schools, hospitals and in mental health for over 40 years. She has worked for 4 decades facilitating thousands of groups for women and teens. Additionally, Carol has devoted the last 2 decades to helping men and women manage their sex addiction and helping betrayed partners work through the trauma of sexual and relational betrayal. She is a well respected sex and relationship therapist to individuals and couples across the country and beyond. Carol completed her master's degree at the honorable institution, Indiana University School of Social Work. She is currently facilitating popular workshops on relationships both statewide and nationally. Carol does annual workshops for the International Institute for Trauma and Addiction Professionals. She is also a revered trainer for the Association of Partners of Sex Addicts Trauma Specialists and is a consultant for clinicians and coaches for APSATS. Carol believes in teaching people how to live their best lives in romance and in life in general. Links: ⁠http://apsats.org⁠ ⁠http://drjakeporter.com/breakingbarriers⁠ Find more on Carol: https://sexhelpwithcarolthecoach.com Carol's books! This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this episode of the Betrayal Recovery Radio podcast, Dr. Jake Porter speaks with Tabitha Westbrook, a licensed marriage and family therapist, about her personal journey as a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and domestic violence. They discuss the importance of understanding the body in the healing process, the impact of trauma, and how to listen to one's body. Tabitha shares insights on navigating betrayal and abuse, reconnecting with oneself and others, and defining healthy sexuality. The conversation emphasizes the need for compassion, understanding, and the importance of addressing both emotional and physical aspects of healing. APSATS.org APSATS.org/podcast drjakeporter.com More of Tabitha: https://www.tabithawestbrook.com https://thejourneyandtheprocess.com https://www.amazon.com/Body-Soul-Healed-Whole-Invitational/dp/1496490665 This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this conversation, Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck discusses her book 'Betrayal, Trauma, Anger' with Dr. Jake Porter, focusing on the complex emotions surrounding betrayal trauma, particularly anger. They explore the unique nature of anger in betrayal situations, the impact of betrayal blindness and gaslighting, and the seven phases of managing anger. The discussion emphasizes the importance of self-care, awareness, and rebuilding trust in oneself, while also addressing the role of the betrayer in the healing process. The conversation concludes with words of hope for those navigating the aftermath of betrayal. Links: ⁠http://apsats.org⁠ ⁠http://drjakeporter.com/breakingbarriers⁠ Find more of Dr. Crystal Hollenbeck: Website: https://crystalhollenbeck.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrCrystalHollenbeck Book: Betrayal Trauma Anger Book More: SCIP Protocol Betrayal Trauma Article in the Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy   This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this episode of Betrayal Recovery Radio, Dr. Jake Porter interviews Jill Pool, a certified professional coach, about the complexities of emotional betrayal. They explore the definitions, dimensions, and impacts of emotional betrayal, including emotional neglect and the nuances of emotional affairs. Jill shares her insights on the importance of clear communication and understanding in relationships, as well as the significance of validation and hope in the healing process for both betrayed and betraying partners. The conversation emphasizes the need for awareness of emotional triggers and the steps necessary for recovery and rebuilding trust. As a Certified Professional Coach and APSATS Candidate, Jill Pool offers a unique blend of personal insight and professional expertise. With extensive personal experience, she's an invaluable resource for partners navigating betrayal recovery amidst challenges like homeschooling, special needs parenting, and the loss of a child. Driven by a passion to clarify emotional betrayal, she creates resources that help betrayed partners express themselves more effectively. As a Christian, Jill offers clients the chance to integrate their faith into their healing journey. Together with her husband Alonso, Jill co-owns and coaches at Hope in the Havoc, guiding individuals toward healing and restoration. She is also a contracted coach with Hope Redefined. As a homeschooling mom of 12, Jill knows the demands of balancing family life with recovery. When not coaching, she enjoys hiking and admiring sunsets along the tranquil Tennessee River Links: ⁠http://apsats.org⁠ ⁠http://drjakeporter.com/breakingbarriers⁠ Find more of Jill: Website: hopeinthehavoc.com  Facebook: Hope in the Havoc  Instagram: @hopeinthehavoc  Email:  [email protected] This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this powerful and heartfelt episode of Betrayal Recovery Radio, Dr. Jake Porter is joined by returning guest Andrea Rogers for a conversation that is as historic as it is healing. Andrea makes a major announcement: the official launch of Intimate Partner Betrayal Awareness Day, a day dedicated to honoring the voices and validating the experiences of those impacted by intimate partner betrayal. This episode is filled with emotion, advocacy, and the unwavering belief that healing begins when truth is honored and justice starts with being heard. Whether you are a survivor, a clinician, or a loved one walking alongside someone in pain, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss. APSATS.org APSATS.org/podcast drjakeporter.com helpafterbetrayal.com https://www.daringventures.com/andrea-rogers https://www.fullyalivecoachingllc.com This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

This episode tackles a tricky and often painful topic—one that leaves many couples feeling stuck: how to navigate attraction after betrayal. When trust has been shattered by infidelity, even something as seemingly harmless as noticing an attractive person can feel threatening. In this conversation, Jake Porter and Karla Summey unpack the difference between noticing and objectifying, examine the influence of cultural messages around beauty and desire, and offer guidance on how transparency, communication, and self-compassion can help couples move forward. For anyone who has felt confused, triggered, or unsure how to engage these moments without causing more harm, this episode offers clarity, validation, and a path toward healing. Karla Summey is a certified coach who specializes in supporting individuals and couples in the aftermath of sexual betrayal. With a background in nursing and certifications through the International Coaching Federation (ICF), APSATS, and as a Certified Disclosure Guide Coach, she brings both clinical insight and relational wisdom to her work. Karla is especially passionate about fostering shared reality and guiding couples through the Early Recovery Couples Empathy Model (ERCEM) and the Couple-Centered Recovery model. Her compassionate, honest, and partner-sensitive approach helps couples rebuild safety and trust in the face of deep relational wounds. APSATS.org APSATS.org/podcast drjakeporter.com/breakingbarriers karlasummey.com/ This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In part 2 of this talk, Maddie Corman joins Dr. Jake Porter and APSATS President, Jeanne Vattuone, for an honest and deeply moving conversation about her one-woman play-turned-film Accidentally Brave, which chronicles her experience of navigating the fallout of her husband’s public betrayal. Maddie shares the story behind the creation of the play, the emotional and relational aftermath of disclosure, and what it means to live with courage, compassion, and authenticity in the face of personal devastation. Together, they explore themes of trust, healing, and the power of storytelling as a path to connection and growth. APSATS.org MaddieCorman.com AccidentallyBrave.com APSATS.org/podcast drjakeporter.com helpafterbetrayal.com This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.

In this episode, Maddie Corman joins Dr. Jake Porter and APSATS President, Jeanne Vattuone, for an honest and deeply moving conversation about her one-woman play-turned-film Accidentally Brave, which chronicles her experience of navigating the fallout of her husband’s public betrayal. Maddie shares the story behind the creation of the play, the emotional and relational aftermath of disclosure, and what it means to live with courage, compassion, and authenticity in the face of personal devastation. Together, they explore themes of trust, healing, and the power of storytelling as a path to connection and growth. APSATS.org MaddieCorman.com AccidentallyBrave.com APSATS.org/podcast drjakeporter.com helpafterbetrayal.com This podcast is intended for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not a substitute for professional mental health counseling, therapy, or medical advice. All views and opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, or participants are their own and do not necessarily represent the official views, policies, or positions of APSATS. APSATS does not endorse any specific treatments, interventions, or advice discussed in the podcast. Listeners should seek their own professional guidance for personal health concerns.