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Everyday Grit

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32 episodes
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English
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Nathan Hicks
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Date created
2023/02/18
Latest episode
2026/09/09
Average duration
60 min.
Release period
40 days

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Conversations to help you think critically, live abundantly, and endure the everyday.

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Ep. 032 - Rescue on Mt Yonah: A Lesson in Preparedness, Planning, and Respecting the Wilderness
2026/09/09
Mount Yonah Rescue: Preparedness, Planning, and Respecting the Wilderness Host Nathan Hicks events that took place on August 25, 2026, when White County rescuers responded to a 7:00 p.m. SOS. They eventually located an unnamed hiker about 260 feet up a granite face on a small ledge roughly 40–50 feet from the summit, and executed a rapid rappel rescue by anchoring from the top and bringing the hiker down in a harness. Hicks analyzes the bad and the good, before identifying important takeaways for all would-be-adventurers. He closes with recommendations to consider when planning your own adventure.   00:00 Cold Open Setup 00:14 Edgar Reel Backstory 03:04 Podcast Welcome Feedback 03:58 Mount Yonah Overview 06:11 Rescue Incident Recap 08:27 Why Weigh In 11:30 What Went Wrong 12:02 Info Gathering Pitfalls 17:07 Experience Versus Difficulty 20:17 Gear Mistakes Off Route 24:40 What Went Right 29:23 Rescue Team Excellence 32:14 Preparedness Takeaways 34:50 Emergency Plan Respect 37:20 Closing Invite Connect Check out The Reckoning at https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning and drop Nathan a line if you are interested. Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 031 - The Facade of Suffering w Jon Cox
2026/05/08
Join Nathan Hicks and special co-host Jon Cox for a conversation about the difference between voluntary hardship and true suffering and the reasons it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference.  Jon and Nathan share wisom and stories from their background in endurance sports and offer practical take aways about why it's still important to do hard things and how to get the most out of them when you do. Check out The Reckoning at https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning and drop Nathan a line if you are interested. Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 030 - Life in Balance with Christian Rawles: Enduring Entrepreneurialism
2026/01/22
Enduring Entrepreneurism: Life in Balance with Christian Rawles   In this episode, the speaker and guest Christian Rawles discuss various subjects ranging from technical improvements in sound quality to a detailed narrative of Christian's life experiences. They delve into Christian's early exposure to nature, his journey from Dallas suburbs to acquiring a business in Canada, and the reflections on running Ambler as a lifestyle business. The conversation explores the transition from entrepreneurial endeavors to becoming a professional coach, including overcoming self-doubt and embracing new roles. They also discuss the dynamics of the outdoor gear industry, the importance of independent retailers, and the balance of innovation and commercial interests. The episode concludes with insights on personal growth, lessons from the wilderness, and the significance of adventure in shaping one's life and professional path.   03:14 The Origins of Adventure 05:40 Evolution of Outdoor Activities 10:10 Memorable Wilderness Experiences 20:15 Transition to Entrepreneurship 37:52 Finding Mentorship and Strategic Growth 39:22 Personal Loss and Introspection 41:00 Self-Awareness in Entrepreneurship 45:44 Decision to Sell the Company 48:20 Challenges in the Outdoor Industry 48:47 Product Lifecycle and Manufacturing 55:07 Corporate Influence and Market Changes 01:05:27 Supporting Independent Retailers and Small Brands 01:13:48 The Importance of Product Availability 01:14:04 Admiration for Innovative Companies 01:14:20 The Unique Approach of Squala 01:14:34 Challenges of Private Equity in Business 01:14:53 The Legacy of Patagonia 01:16:57 The Evolution of Patagonia's Brand 01:19:54 The Role of Writing in Personal Growth 01:23:30 Transitioning to Coaching 01:25:34 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome 01:31:24 The Value of Presence in Coaching 01:35:39 Target Audience for Coaching 01:39:04 Lessons from Wilderness Adventures 01:42:02 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
Ep. 029 - The Least of These
2026/01/13
The Least of These   In this episode of the Everyday Grit Podcast, host Nathan Hicks shares a personal story about buying a new mountain bike to connect with his son, only to face a unique challenge in obtaining it. The experience underscores the importance of human connection and helping others. Nathan further explores the concept of 'the least of these' through another story where he helps a man in need at a grocery store. He encourages listeners to reassess how they perceive and act on the needs of those around them, advocating for a more generous and swift response to helping others. The episode emphasizes developing the skills to recognize needs, simplifying the assessment process, and rewiring our default to action over hesitation, ultimately aiming to foster a deeper human connection. 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 00:12 The Mountain Bike Story 05:44 The Human Connection 07:10 Welcome to the Everyday Grit Podcast 07:30 Feedback from Listeners 09:01 Helping a Stranger at Publix 13:55 Defining 'The Least of These' 28:02 Call to Action: Helping Others 29:53 Conclusion and Contact Information *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning at https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning and drop Nathan a line if you are interested. Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 028 - All In with Edgar Mills
2025/12/18
What Does It Mean to Be All In? In this insightful episode, the hosts dive deep into the meaning of being 'all in' across different aspects of life—work, family, and personal goals. They discuss personal experiences, such as tackling zoning for a new business, training for ultra-marathons, and balancing a demanding military career with family commitments. The conversation addresses the challenges of prioritizing competing responsibilities, the impact of significant life decisions, and the myths perpetuated by social media influencers about commitment. The episode also provides practical advice for evaluating major life decisions through four key considerations: divine guidance, family impact, personal well-being, and community influence. 00:00 Introduction and Initial Setup 00:44 Starting the Podcast 01:31 How We Met and Collaborated 05:08 Defining 'All In' 06:42 Family Commitments and Sacrifices 11:45 Balancing Priorities 13:42 Challenges and Realities of Being 'All In' 21:44 Influencers and Authenticity 28:42 Different Contexts of Being 'All In' 31:34 Balancing Work and Family Life 32:30 The Challenges of Being All In 32:59 A Firefighter's Commitment 34:14 Support Systems in Marriage 35:48 Finding Fulfillment in Work 37:05 The Myth of Work-Life Balance 43:13 The Reality of Military Service 48:17 Prioritizing Life's Important Aspects 59:36 Concluding Thoughts on Balance and Fulfillment *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning at https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning and drop Nathan a line if you are interested. Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 027 - Tragedy to Triumph with Hannah Nabors
2025/11/21
Tragedy to Triumph with Hannah Nabors.    In this episode, Hannah Neighbors shares her incredible journey of resilience and recovery following a devastating car accident that resulted in the loss of her leg. Hannah discusses her upbringing, career path, and how she met her husband. She details the morning of the accident, the immediate and long-term physical challenges, her mental and emotional battles, and the overwhelming support from her community. Despite the severity of her injuries, Hannah's positive outlook remains unwavering. She shares her experiences with recovery, dealing with grief and trauma, and how her faith and community have played crucial roles in her healing process. Hannah also highlights her ambitions to run the Boston Marathon and her involvement in advocating for better insurance support for amputees. 00:00 Podcast Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:56 Guest's Background and Upbringing 01:42 Career Journey and Family Life 04:14 Passion for Running and Coaching 09:49 The Accident: A Life-Changing Event 18:51 Immediate Aftermath and Hospitalization 28:57 Adjusting to a New Reality 39:25 Emotional Struggles and Guilt 39:58 Support from Running Group 40:57 Coping with Anger and Disappointment 42:23 Facing the Person Responsible 43:04 The Power of Forgiveness 46:03 Coping Mechanisms and Community Support 47:51 The Role of Faith in Healing 50:59 Challenges of Phantom Pain 52:08 Returning to Normalcy 01:00:36 Running and Physical Recovery 01:03:20 Surprising Challenges and Adaptations 01:17:42 Advocacy and Future Goals 01:21:27 Final Reflections and Gratitude   *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning at https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning and drop Nathan a line if you are interested. Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 026 - Ready or Not: Overcoming Unwanted and Untimely Challenges (Lessons from a trail 100)
2025/11/11
Ready or Not: Overcoming Unwanted and Untimely Challenges (Lessons from a 100-Mile Race)   In this episode of the Everyday Grit Podcast, host Nathan Hicks shares valuable lessons learned from his recent experience running a 100-mile trail race. He discusses the importance of setting goals, accepting reality, and maintaining a positive narrative despite unexpected challenges. Nathan also highlights the significance of having a supportive crew and using internal and external resources to overcome obstacles. Drawing parallels with broader life experiences, he emphasizes the importance of perseverance, adaptability, and the mental shift from 'if' to 'how.' The episode also includes listener feedback and emphasizes the role of critical thinking and perseverance in everyday life.   00:00 Introduction and Initial Concerns 01:09 Reflecting on Past Races 02:11 Podcast Welcome and Listener Feedback 04:30 Training and Preparation Challenges 17:48 Mental Strategies for Overcoming Challenges 22:30 Race Day: Early Challenges and Mental Battles 25:35 Facing Unexpected Challenges 25:58 Dealing with Fatigue and Weariness 27:35 Mental Hurdles and Emotional Overflow 30:13 Strategies for Overcoming Challenges 35:10 The Importance of Support Systems 40:30 Navigating Solo Stretches 49:08 Final Reflections and Takeaways *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning at https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning and drop Nathan a line if you are interested. Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 025 - The Road Less Traveled with Russ Taylor
2025/10/22
The road less traveled, with Russ Taylor...exploring a life of service, adventure, and faith.   In this episode of everyday Grit, host Nathan Hicks sits down with Russ Taylor to discuss his remarkable journey of living a life filled with adventure, service, and faith. They delve into Russ's experiences from their seminary days and early friendship, touching on memorable trips and impactful moments. Russ shares his upbringing as an adopted child, the loss of both parents at a young age, and how these events shaped his path. They explore Russ's diverse career, spanning positions from banking to the Peace Corps in Papua New Guinea, working for Outward Bound with adjudicated youth, and various roles in the National Park Service. Russ talks about his love for travel and photography, detailing unique experiences with cultures around the world, including reindeer herders in Siberia and remote villages in Laos. Throughout, Russ reflects on the importance of faith, humility, and being true to oneself in every endeavor. 00:00 Getting Started: The Awkward Beginnings 00:52 Reconnecting with an Old Friend 01:23 Memories of Seminary and Adventures 05:17 Life on the Road Less Traveled 05:56 Early Life and Family Background 09:53 College and Career Beginnings 10:52 The Life-Changing Road Trip 14:00 Joining the Peace Corps 21:32 Transitioning to Outdoor Adventures 23:42 Working with Adjudicated Youth 32:20 Transition from STEP Program to Seminary 33:18 Journey of Faith and Seminary Decision 37:04 Scouting and Wilderness Connection 40:05 Missionary Work in India 45:27 Return to the US and Career Transitions 48:32 Life in Denali National Park 51:41 Passion for Photography 01:00:40 Reflections on Life Choices and Relationships 01:07:23 Final Thoughts and Encouragement   *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning at https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning and drop Nathan a line if you are interested. Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 024 - How Runningman Found A Home
2025/09/17
Navigating Opportunities and Staying True to Yourself   In this episode of the Everyday Grit Podcast, hosted by Nathan Hicks, the focus is on the Running Man Festival, an event created by entrepreneur Jesse Itzler. Nathan dives into his personal experience of connecting Jesse's team with the perfect venue, Kingston Downs, for the festival. Despite successfully facilitating this connection, Nathan reflects on not hearing back regarding his initial collaboration intentions. He explores three key lessons from this experience: staying true to oneself, recognizing and honoring the value others bring, and favoring open opportunities over trying to force closed ones. The episode encourages listeners to contribute their thoughts and experiences related to these lessons. 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 00:08 What is the Running Man Festival? 02:06 Listener Feedback and Reviews 03:32 The Story of Connecting with Jesse Itzler 21:38 Lessons Learned from the Experience 36:33 Final Thoughts and Upcoming Events     *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning at https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning and drop Nathan a line if you are interested. Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 023 - Lessons From Mid State Mile
2025/08/25
Lessons from the Mid-State Mile: Embracing Challenges and Self-Reflection   Host Nathan Hicks reflects on his experience participating in the Mid-State Mile, a challenging trail race with a 1.1 mile loop and 340 feet of elevation gain and loss per loop.    He discusses the importance of goal setting, the traps to avoid when facing hard tasks, and balancing various life responsibilities.   Nathan underscores the significance of individual experiences over mere knowledge, the futility of comparison, and the value of enduring hardship as part of personal growth. Listener feedback and reviews are encouraged to make the podcast better. 00:00 Introduction and Initial Thoughts 01:52 Reflecting on Mid-State Mile Experience 02:21 Podcast Introduction and Listener Feedback 04:49 Explaining Mid-State Mile 07:38 Race Day Preparations and Challenges 16:39 Three Traps of Facing Hardships 30:32 The Value of Voluntary Hardship 32:54 Recap of the Three Traps 33:30 Why I Quit Running 39:58 Balancing Life and Goals 45:03 The Comparison Trap 50:42 Final Reflections and Takeaways 59:49 Closing Thoughts and Listener Engagement   *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning at https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning and drop Nathan a line if you are interested. Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 022 - The Reckoning: Grit and Growth
2025/05/12
Enduring the Reckoning: Reflections on Overcoming Adversity   In this engaging episode, participants reflect on a rigorous outdoor adventure called 'The Reckoning,' involving a challenging hike with varied terrain and adverse weather conditions. The conversation covers their experiences, individual challenges, moments of growth, and teamwork dynamics. The script highlights the importance of perseverance, adaptability, and mutual support in overcoming physical and mental hardships. Participants also share the lessons learned and insights that can be applied to broader aspects of life.   00:00 Introduction and Initial Reflections 01:09 Team Performance and Challenges 02:43 Individual Experiences and Struggles 04:38 Overcoming Mental and Physical Hurdles 06:58 Group Dynamics and Support 08:49 Weather and Environmental Impact 11:19 Final Thoughts and Reflections 26:32 Reflecting on the River Crossing 27:47 Humbled by Nature's Challenges 29:54 Pushing Through Physical and Mental Barriers 32:47 Dealing with Self-Doubt and Expectations 34:08 The Importance of Teamwork and Preparation 37:34 Lessons Learned and Personal Growth 46:44 Voluntary Challenges vs. Obligatory Tasks 54:13 Final Reflections and Takeaways   *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning at https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning and drop Nathan a line if you are interested. Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 021 - Come As You Are: The Role of Doubt in Deepening Your Faith
2025/04/25
In this episode of the Everyday Grit Podcast, host Nathan Hicks discusses how doubt crept in during a stressful period as he explores the nature of doubt in faith. Nathan examines the biblical story of Thomas' doubt post-resurrection, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging doubt, maintaining relationships, and holding on to hope. Through introspection and conversation with others, Nathan shares practical steps for confronting and understanding doubt, encouraging listeners to remain open to belief and God's presence.   Listen as Nathan makes a case for the importance of acknowledging and confronting doubt in matters of faith. Sharing important insights from the story of Thomas, Nathan makes the case that expressing doubt is confessional, relational, and hopeful. What do you think? 00:00 Introduction and Personal Story 04:24 The Nature of Doubt 04:35 Podcast Introduction and Listener Feedback 06:10 Reflecting on Personal Experiences 12:59 Understanding Doubt Through Scripture 18:05 Lessons from Thomas' Doubt 31:56 Practical Steps to Address Doubt 38:43 Conclusion and Call to Action   *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning. See https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning for more details and drop Nathan a line if you are interested.   Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected]   Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 020 - Beyond Comfort: Growth Zones & Personal Development
2025/04/05
Understanding the Growth Zone: A Framework for Personal Development In this episode, host Nathan Hicks shares a compelling story from his experience leading a challenging backpacking course focused on personal development. He discusses the concept of the 'Growth Zone Model,' using three concentric circles to define the Comfort Zone, Growth Zone, and Panic Zone. He provides practical insights on how to self-assess and navigate these zones, enhancing personal growth.  Nathan also encourages listeners to apply this model to help others, understanding how to support people in different zones.    00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 00:09 The Struggle of the Group 03:00 The Growth Zone Model 03:22 Podcast Introduction and Listener Feedback 07:06 Recognizing Opportunities for Growth 10:51 Understanding the Comfort Zone 16:19 Exploring the Growth Zone 22:30 Critique of Alternative Growth Models 25:46 Understanding the Panic Zone 29:31 Applying the Model to Self 32:59 Exploring Comfort, Growth, and Panic Zones 38:57 Using the Model to Help Others 45:33 Final Thoughts and Challenges 47:12 Conclusion and Call to Action   *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning. See https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning for more details and drop Nathan a line if you are interested.   Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected]   Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 019 - Pushing Limits with Tara Dower
2025/03/13
Conquering Life and Trail: Tara Dower's Journey and Mental Resilience In this episode of the Everyday Grit podcast, host Nathan Hicks interviews Tara Dower, who recently set the fastest known time (FKT) for completing the Appalachian Trail. Tara's record-breaking journey covers 2,200 miles in 40 days, 18 hours, and 6 minutes, surpassing the previous record by over 13 hours. The conversation delves into Tara’s mental and emotional resilience, her struggle with anxiety, and how she overcame obstacles from her first failed attempt in 2017 to her triumphant return in 2019. Tara also shares insights into her life as a professional athlete, her training routines, and how she manages pressure and anxiety. Furthermore, Tara introduces her new podcast, 'DNF Diaries,' where she shares light-hearted yet inspirational stories of endurance. This episode provides a holistic view of Tara's remarkable achievements and the mental fortitude required to conquer such immense challenges. Thanks for listening. Carry on.   *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning. See https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning for more details and drop Nathan a line if you are interested.   Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there. *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.
Ep. 018 - Everyday Resolutions
2025/02/28
Welcome to the Everyday Grit Podcast with Nathan Hicks In episode 018, Nathan discusses the power of everyday resolutions and shares a framework that can quickly be used to provide clarity, structure, and purpose to each day. Give it a listen and put it to work. Carry on.   *Interested in joining Nathan for an "in-person" adventure?  Check out The Reckoning. See https://mailchi.mp/e2693f53419b/the-reckoning for more details and drop Nathan a line if you are interested.   Join the conversation by emailing Nathan at [email protected] Follow along on IG: @njhix and @everydaygritpodcast And, follow @hghrgrnd to stay informed about opportunities there.   *Music by Jupiter Coyote. Used with permission.

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5 out of 5
60 reviews
★★★★★
Mooresoc 2025/08/26
Gritty and Chill
I love Nathan’s style on his podcast. It’s a very chill and relaxed style but topics and conversations are always teaching me new gritty things along ...
★★★★★
BAH!33 2025/04/23
Growing in Grief
I’m deeply appreciative of your podcast on dad’s passing. While it was good to hear how you processed those days, what I didn’t expect was it to open...
★★★★★
Lbb!789 2025/03/06
Thank you
Thank you Nathan for not only sharing your perspective, but for also sharing multiple perspectives. It’s definitely beneficial to me to be able to use...
★★★★★
55goingon25 2025/02/16
Grief and Gratitude
I have followed Nathan on Instagram for some time now. I discovered him through The 3 of 7 project. I always look forward to his posts. I lost a love...
★★★★★
wallishutton 2024/11/03
Born to Persevere
A trusted friend suggested i listen to Nathan's podcast and what a good suggestion it was. Nathan's measured tone of voice compliments his well constr...
★★★★★
Jort247 2024/09/23
Hidden Gem
This podcast gives perspective that keeps me coming back to listen in times of need. Refreshing. HIGHLY recommend. Thank you, Nathan!
★★★★★
TIJH 2024/09/19
BAM 👊🏼 so good!
Nathan is a gift to the world and has been a gift in my world for a few years now. He has a way of drawing me into another world, a world of self refl...
★★★★★
_jonruns 2024/03/03
Hits the nail on the head every time.
In a world of podcast hosts talking about themselves Nathan seemingly is able to talk about you, and about me, about each of us as individuals and a c...
★★★★★
HossKatDaddy 2024/03/03
Wisdom through experience.
I’ve never met Nathan Hicks I only know him through instagram by way of the 3 of 7 family. He definitely has a way of telling a story and leading you...
★★★★★
nomadruss 2024/02/03
The wisdom you asked for…
With the tag line “Conversations to help you think critically, live abundantly, and endure the everyday,” Nathan Hicks takes you on various journeys t...
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