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For Better Or Best Podcast

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2023/04/04
Latest episode
2026/09/23
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41 min.
Release period
34 days

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Hosts Charles Beloved and Shireen Kuykendoll talk marriage, family life, Black love, and entrepreneurship. Join them every Wednesday where they share their experiences and give the audience a taste of how they balance chaos with blessings.

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The Cost of Leveling Up
2026/09/23
Behind every level-up is a cost. In this week’s episode, Charles and Shireen get real about the sacrifices, career moves, loneliness, trust, parenting, and partnership required to build the life they enjoy today. From relocating for opportunities to balancing family and ambition, this conversation explores what success really demands behind the scenes. 00:33 - 04:45 Relationship Shaping Success Charles opens the episode by reflecting on his wedding vows and publicly acknowledging the sacrifices Shireen has made throughout their relationship. The conversation sets the stage for a deeper discussion about gratitude, partnership, and what it takes to build a successful life together. 04:45 - 09:28 The Cost of Having a High-Value Partner Charles and Shireen debate the realities of being married to an ambitious partner. They discuss the often-unseen tradeoffs that come with financial success, career achievement, and traditional relationship expectations.  09:28 - 12:42 Loneliness, Travel, and Parenting While Chasing Dreams Shireen shares how frequently being home alone with the kids can feel isolating, while Charles admits he struggles when she's away on work trips. Together, they unpack the emotional toll that constant travel and career obligations can place on a family. 12:42 - 16:30 The Facebook Move: Shireen's Big Sacrifice The couple revisits their move from New York to California for Charles's Facebook opportunity. Shireen opens up about giving up her career momentum, missing her support system, and the resentment she felt during one of the hardest transitions of their marriage. 16:30 - 18:24 Career Decisions Impacting the Future Charles explains how the Facebook offer dramatically altered their financial trajectory through salary increases, relocation benefits, and long-term opportunities. The discussion explores when a major financial opportunity justifies a significant personal sacrifice. 18:24 - 20:00 Success, Boundaries, and Missing Family Moments As Charles reflects on a recent career milestone, he wrestles with the question of whether pursuing every opportunity is worth the family moments that could be missed. The conversation centers on balancing ambition with presence as a parent. 20:00 - 23:03 The Entrepreneur Mindset: When Is Enough Enough? Charles opens up about the anxiety of entrepreneurship and never feeling certain that he's earned "enough." The couple discusses wealth-building, generational goals, and how past experiences can shape someone's relationship with money and work. 23:03 - 24:21 What Happens When It's Charles’ Turn to Sacrifice? Shireen challenges Charles with a hypothetical question: what if her career required the family to relocate next? Charles shares why he has always been willing to support her ambitions and how he views sacrifice as a natural part of partnership. 24:21 - 27:37 Marriage Roles, Parenting Lessons, and Family Priorities A lighthearted story about furniture assembly leads into a deeper conversation about complementary strengths, raising independent children, and helping their kids understand the work that supports their lifestyle. 27:37 - 31:52 Trusting That Sacrifice Strengthens Relationships The episode closes with a heartfelt exchange about trust, belief, and supporting each other's dreams. Charles thanks Shireen for repeatedly betting on him, while Shireen explains why she views her support not as sacrifice, but as an investment in the life they've built together. Keep up with us on IG @forbetterorbestpod Listen to us on Apple and Spotify  Like, Subscribe, and Share! xoxo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Birthday Behavior
2026/09/09
It’s birthday season on the pod! Charles and Shireen get real about milestone birthdays, birthday-trip etiquette, money, marriage, and what it really means to feel celebrated. Then things get vulnerable as Charles opens up about wanting to become a dad again, the financial pressure behind that dream, and what matters most when building a family. 00:00–03:39 - Birthday Boy Energy  Charles kicks off his birthday episode talking about why he unapologetically celebrates himself after spending the rest of the year taking care of everyone else. He and Shireen also reflect on getting older and how long they’ve been together. 03:39–08:18 - Which Birthdays Are Actually Milestones? Charles and Shireen debate which ages deserve major celebrations, from 16 and 21 to 30, 40, 50 and beyond. They also talk about why turning 40 feels different when you have more financial freedom and life experience. 08:18–10:24 - Your Friend’s Birthday Is on YOUR Birthday Trip?!  They react to a viral story about a woman whose friend refused to celebrate her birthday because it was technically her birthday trip. Charles and Shireen debate friendship, consideration, and whether there’s really room for everyone to feel celebrated. 10:24–12:07 - Why Some People Take Birthdays So Seriously The conversation gets deeper as they explore why birthdays can become more meaningful after experiencing loss, health scares, or major life changes. They also share their own evolving feelings about birthdays. 12:07–14:30 - What Makes You Feel Loved on Your Birthday?  After years of marriage, Charles explains what actually makes him feel celebrated by Shireen. He says experiences and creating memories with his spouse, friends, and family mean much more to him now than expensive gifts. 14:30–18:32 - The Birthday Surprise That Almost Went Wrong  Shireen tells the story of planning a major surprise celebration for Charles and trying to get him to the venue without giving it away. Charles explains why surprising him can be difficult when he’s constantly working. 18:32–24:47 - “Why Are You Still Working?!” Their birthday-surprise story turns into a bigger conversation about work, marriage, and the frustration of trying to plan something special for someone whose schedule is always changing. They also laugh about Charles figuring out that something was happening. 24:47–30:42 - Who Should Pay for a Birthday Dinner? Charles and Shireen get into birthday-party etiquette and whether guests should ever be expected to pay for their own meals. They debate birthday dinners versus more casual happy-hour celebrations and how couples can take the financial pressure off their friends. 30:42–33:43 - I Wanna Become a Dad Again The conversation takes an emotional turn when Charles reveals what he truly wants for this next chapter of his life: becoming a dad again. He opens up about adoption, surrogacy, and the financial anxiety that has made him hesitant to move forward. 33:43–35:12 - What Kids Really Remember  Shireen challenges Charles’ fears about providing the “perfect” life for another child, reminding him that their children will remember the love, laughter, and memories more than the money spent. The episode closes with an incredibly heartfelt birthday message and Charles’ dream of having another child. Happy Birthday to all the Virgos! Keep up with us on IG @forbetterorbestpod Listen to us on Apple and Spotify  Like, Subscribe, and Share! xoxo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Love While Lit
2026/09/02
What does it really look like to be in a secure relationship while still having a life of your own? In Episode 44, the Kuykendolls are talking love while lit; from Crop Over in Barbados and dancing with strangers to opposite-sex friendships, boundaries, trust, independence, and the freedom that comes from knowing your partner always has your back.  2:25–4:22 - Our First Crop Over Together Shireen and Charles recap their first Crop Over experience in Barbados and the incredible energy of the island. They talk about the festivities, the culture, and how much they enjoyed experiencing it together. 4:22–6:05 - What Does “Love While Lit” Mean?  Charles introduces the topic of “Love While Lit” and asks how a couple can enjoy going out together and separately while still respecting the relationship. Shireen and Charles discuss where the line of responsibility falls when you’re a couple who likes to have fun. 6:05–9:59 - So Who Was Shireen Dancing With? Charles tells the story of being at Crop Over and initially thinking Shireen wasn’t dancing with anyone else. He later discovers video of Shireen dancing with another man after she and Raye had been gone for over an hour. 10:17–12:20 - The Crop Over Defense Shireen explains what actually happened with her and Raye and the circumstances surrounding the dancing. Charles questions the situation while Shireen gives her side of the story. 13:10–16:20 - Dancing, Drinks & Relationship Rules  A debate is sparked about what should and shouldn’t be considered inappropriate when you’re out without your partner. They get into dancing, drinking, attention from other people, and the expectations they have within their marriage. 16:20–20:29 - Trust vs. Insecurity  Charles and Shireen discuss opposite-sex friendships and why they don’t automatically view attention from someone else as a threat. They explore the difference between trusting your partner and allowing insecurity to dictate the relationship. 20:29–24:47 - Private vs. Secretive Charles and Shireen talk about the difference between having privacy and actually hiding things from your partner. They discuss being able to openly share situations involving other people without feeling like they have to hide or censor themselves. 25:37–30:31 - I Trust You, I Don’t Trust Them. Charles explains that he trusts Shireen but knows there will always be people who try to test boundaries. They discuss putting the responsibility on each other to recognize those situations and protect the relationship. 30:31–34:47 - Freedom Is a Byproduct of Trust  Charles and Shireen discuss how trust allows them to have separate friends, schedules, interests, and experiences outside of their marriage. They talk about how having freedom and time apart can actually make them better together. 34:51–42:01 - LIT OR TOO LIT? 🔥 Charles and Shireen put their relationship boundaries to the test with “Lit or Too Lit.” They react to scenarios involving 4AM nights, Vegas trips, opposite-sex dinners, someone buying your spouse a drink, vacations with single friends, unanswered phone calls, exes at parties, and after-parties. Keep up with us on IG @forbetterorbestpod Listen to us on Apple and Spotify  Like, Subscribe, and Share! xoxo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Black Boy Joy feat. Maurice Kuykendoll
2026/08/26
Episode 43 brings up one the Kuykendolls’ most emotional and impactful conversations yet. After discussing the case of Nolan Wells, they reflect on what it means to raise Black boys in America, the difficult conversations Black parents eventually have to have with their children, and the tension between teaching kids to “shine their light” while also preparing them for moments when they may need to move differently. 1:02-2:26 Gauchos & Lotion Shireen and Charles kick things off with their usual playful banter before getting into the much heavier conversation ahead. They explain why For Better Or Best generally focuses on their own lives rather than celebrity gossip or current events, and why this particular story hit too close to home to ignore.  2:40-3:20 The Nolan Wells Case & Seeing Your Own Children in the Story Shireen opens up about the emotional impact of Nolan Wells’ story and how, as a parent, she couldn’t help but see her own sons in him and herself in his mother. 4:24-5:59 What It Means to Be “One of One” Shireen and Charles discuss their own experiences being the only Black person in certain environments and the uncomfortable reality that Black people sometimes have to navigate spaces differently because of race.  6:15-7:40 “There Will Be a Moment Where We Tell You, Dim That Light” One of the episode’s most powerful moments: Shireen wrestles with approaching “the talk”, and having to teach her sons that despite encouraging them to be bold and confident, there may be situations where their safety requires them to make themselves smaller.  7:52-8:27 Protecting Your Children Without Suffocating Them Shireen and Charles explore the impossible parenting balance between giving children independence and protecting them from dangers they aren’t old enough to fully recognize. 8:43-9:34 Does More Money Actually Mean More Safety? Charles reflects on moving from less affluent communities into safer neighborhoods and how even those “safer” environments came with unexpected dangers, including break-ins. 10:13-11:48  The Fear of Simply Existing Shireen talks about one of her deepest fears as a mother: that her children could someday be placed in danger simply because of how they look or because someone decides they don’t belong in a particular space. She’s trying to empower them with life skills while explaining how the rules are not the same for them as they are for children/people of other races.  13:03-15:03 Pastor Maurice Kuykendoll Joins the Conversation Charles introduces his father, thanking him for all the values he instilled in his boys. Maurice discusses raising three boys on Chicago’s South Side and how he balanced protecting his children while allowing them to grow into confident, self-aware, independent adults. 15:50-17:15 The “P’s” of Parenting Maurice shares the foundation he used while raising his sons: prayer, protection, provision, and presence, with preparation emerging as another crucial part of raising children who are ready for the real world. He credits Charles’ mother and his stepmother for being great teammates in parenting. 18:01-19:40 “What Was Important to Me Became Important to You” Maurice tells a beautiful story about bringing a young Charles to choir rehearsals and church services. His point: children absorb what they repeatedly see their parents value, which is why presence matters so much. Charles loves that his dad remembers those early moments.  21:13-23:15 Preparing Black Children for Encounters With Law Enforcement + Final Message to Parents Charles asks his father about the best way to have “the talk” and what points matter most. Maurice offers practical advice: “the truth is your best medicine.” The episode closes with Shireen speaking directly to Black mothers and parents carrying the heavy mental load of worrying about their children, reminding them to support one another, pray, and trust in discernment.  Keep up with us on IG @forbetterorbestpod Listen to us on Apple and Spotify  Like, Subscribe, and Share! xoxo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oxtail and Evictions
2026/08/19
In this energetic and revealing episode, Charles and Shireen reflect on the whirlwind year of building the Oxtail Off tour from a house party into a multi‑city cultural event, sharing the highs, the financial risks, the team effort, and the emotional moments behind the scenes. They close with a candid story about landlord life, late rent, and unexpected tenant drama; because real life doesn’t stop for success. 0:01 - 1:18 Catching up & Charles’ “Nike Beloved” era The episode opens with playful banter about outfits, energy, and how bright the year has felt. Charles walks through the different Nike and Jordan Brand moments that made him feel seen as a personality, not just a host. 2:03 - 3:35 Shireen’s friendship deep dive Shireen introduces Aristotle’s framework for friendship and uses it to frame how we relate to people as adults. She gently invites listeners to think about which friendships are rooted in depth versus convenience. 4:08 - 6:31 When your heart is virtue but people treat you like utility Charles talks about how he naturally shows up with loyalty and long‑term intention when he calls someone a friend. Shireen, from a protective place, points out that some people may be around more for what he represents than who he is. 7:33 - 8:17 The LA chapter & seeing people clearly They revisit their time in Los Angeles as a turning point for understanding who was truly ride‑or‑die. Big milestones like weddings and anniversaries became quiet tests of who showed up and who didn’t. 8:17 - 9:34 How Oxtail Off started in their living room They reminisce about the very first Oxtail Off, which was literally a gathering in their home with friends and food. That intimate beginning makes the later demand and scale feel even more surreal. 10:25 - 11:32 The leap from one city to five Charles admits that expanding to a five‑city tour was part ambition, part ego, and part wanting to prove something to himself. He wanted to show that he could build something culturally meaningful, not just throw a party. 12:04 - 13:29 Realizing they accidentally built five festivals As they break down the logistic; DJs, dancers, judges, production, staging. They realize they didn’t just plan events, they planned full‑scale festivals. The workload and stress hit differently once they saw how many moving parts had to sync every single week. 18:03 - 18:31 The emotional moment when community showed up Charles shares how overwhelming it was to see people organically creating content, doing recaps, and treating Oxtail Off like a cultural staple. The press coverage and sold‑out cities felt like confirmation that the risk was worth it. 19:03 - 19:51 Sold‑out shows & turning down last‑minute ticket offers They talk about the tension of having to shut down ticket sales days early because the venue was truly at capacity. Even when people tried to offer way above ticket price, they held the line to keep the experience safe and honest. 41:35 - 44:20 Real life chaos: landlord struggles & tenant drama The episode closes with a pivot into real life; being landlords while juggling everything else. They walk through the stress of late rent, confusing communication, and how hard it is to navigate money conversations when you’re already stretched thin. Keep up with us on IG @forbetterorbestpod Listen to us on Apple and Spotify Like, Subscribe, and Share! xoxo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The 10 And Non-Attendees
2026/08/12
The Kuykendolls are BACK and they’re celebrating 10 years of marriage! After a 6 month hiatus, Charles and Shireen recap their unforgettable anniversary weekend in Barbados; 200+ guests, surprise performances with a live band, a foam pool party/fete, and a live podcast all accompanied by hookah and stop shelf liquor😂 This extravaganza also sparked some real conversations about friendship, reciprocity, showing up for the people you love when it matters most, and what happens when you don’t. 10 years down. Still outside, still in love!❤️‍🔥 1:17 -10 Years Married! The Kuykendolls recap their unforgettable 10-year anniversary celebration in Barbados with friends and family. 2:09 - The Invisalign Fight 😂 Shireen reveals why she was ready to blame Charles for letting her get Invisalign. 5:06 - Why Barbados? They explain why they ultimately chose Barbados over Antigua for their anniversary celebration. 10:35 - Their Superpower: Building Community. They reflect on bringing their nearest and dearest together and watching new friendships form throughout the weekend. 14:06 - Charles’ Hot Take: Wedding Receptions Are Boring. He explains his unconventional wedding philosophy and why he wanted theirs to feel more like a concert. 17:53 - They Spared NO Expense on the Food. From oxtail and mac pie to lobster tails, they reveal how they transformed the resort’s menu. 20:49 - The Surprise Performances! Case and RL unexpectedly take the stage, sending the crowd into a frenzy. 27:50 - The Legendary Pool Party. Overcast weather turns into an all-out Caribbean day party featuring soca, hookahs, foam and moko jumbies. 31:21 - Who Showed Up—and Who Didn’t? Charles and Shereen get real about friendship, reciprocity and the people who skipped their 10-year celebration. 37:48 - “I’m Spiteful, Beloved.” 😂 Charles explains how he’s changing the way he invests in friendships after Barbados. We close out the episode with a special appearance from CJ, who states that the anniversary weekend is one of the best memories of his life. Ours too, CJ! 😘 Keep up with us on IG @forbetterorbestpod Listen to us on Apple and Spotify Like, Subscribe, and Share! xoxo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Soft Life, Strong Strategy feat. Jack Howard
2026/04/24
Episode 40 of the Better, Best Podcast live from Revolt House at SXSW was one for the books! This conversation with Jack Howard, Head of Money Wellness at Ally Financial, was bigger than budgets and credit scores—it was about the emotional relationship we all have with money. From “poverty PTSD” to credit card cycles, from first-generation wealth building to marriage, entrepreneurship, and generational legacy; Charles and Shireen set the stage for a raw conversation on money, marriage, and breaking generational cycles. 0:03 - 1:12 What is “Money Wellness”?; Jack breaks down the difference between financial literacy vs. money wellness: one is math, the other is your relationship with money. 2:18 -3:36 “Poverty PTSD” + Scarcity Mindset; Shireen opens up about refusing to use autopay because childhood financial stress taught her to always stay in control. 3:41 - 5:00 Your First Memory of Money; The conversation shifts to how childhood money stories shape adult spending habits and financial anxiety. 5:00 - 6:08 Rewriting Your Money Beliefs; Jack introduces money mantras and explains how abundance starts with changing internal narratives. 6:10 - 9:21 Charles’ Prom Story + Fear of Hearing “No”; A powerful reflection on how one high school moment shaped his relationship with money, success, and spending. 9:31 - 12:49 Emotional Spending + Credit Card Debt; Jack gets honest about how high earners can still get trapped in spending cycles when emotions drive financial decisions. 13:02 - 17:57 The Return on Joy; One of the biggest gems: Does your spending reflect your values? Or are you just buying for validation? 18:18 - 23:29 Founder Money Energy; What healthy money habits actually look like for entrepreneurs balancing risk, business growth, and real life. 23:56 - 27:34 Money Conversations in Relationships; The must-ask questions every couple should discuss early: money stories, values, goals, and yes… credit scores too Money isn’t just numbers. It’s values. It’s trauma, It’s identity. It’s freedom and legacy. And if you don’t understand your money story… your money story will keep writing itself.  Make sure you follow our guest Jack Howard @jackhoward_gems and keep up with us @forbetterorbestpod xoxo  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Why Did I Get Married?
2026/01/28
Marriage isn’t just the highlight reel, it’s the quirks, the compromises, the petty debates, and the deep love that keeps two people choosing each other every day. In this episode, Charles and Shireen pull back the curtain on ten years of partnership, from fur‑coat miracles to thermostat wars to the art of minding your business in your friends’ relationships. It’s honest, hilarious, and a reminder that real love is built in the everyday moments. 00:00-02:20 The Fur Coat Enters the Chat Shireen arrives in a full fur and Charles is stunned; the story behind how she got it is even wilder. 02:2-04:40 The 'Buy Nothing' Blessing A Facebook group, perfect timing, and a free fur coat that feels like divine provision. 04:40-07:00 “You Can’t Receive With a Closed Fist” Charles drops a quote (that may or may not be T.D. Jakes) and they unpack the magic of unexpected gifts. 07:00-09:00 Married to Medicine & Marriage Commentary Watching reality TV sparks a conversation about boundaries, friendships, and who gets to comment on your relationship. 09:00-12:00 Should Friends Give Relationship Advice? Charles explains why he minds his business, and Shireen admits she had to learn that lesson the hard way. 12:00-15:00 Complaints vs. Crisis Why venting doesn’t always mean disaster; and how to listen without absorbing someone else’s relationship energy. 15:00-17:30 Dating Advice vs. Marriage Advice Shireen draws a clear line: dating is flexible, marriage is commitment; and the guidance should reflect that. 17:30-20:00 The 80/20 Rule & Choosing Your 90% They break down focusing on what works instead of obsessing over the 10% that doesn’t. 20:00-23:00 Signature Annoying Habits From accountability avoidance to questioning directives; the couple lovingly calls each other out. 23:00-27:00 Money, Shoes & The Great Organizer Debate A $1,000 pair of Louboutins, a garage project, and a disagreement about hiring help. 27:00-31:00 | Clutter, Hoarding & Household Mental Load They unpack generational habits, home management, and the invisible labor that shapes daily life. 31:00-36:00 Cooking, Cleaning & Kitchen Chaos Charles cooks like a king and cleans like… absolutely not. Shireen testifies. 36:00-40:00 Feet Cuddling & Thermostat Wars Cold feet, warm bodies, and the eternal battle over the house temperature. 40:00-44:30 Protecting Your Partner & Public Commentary Why nobody gets to talk about your spouse; not friends, not castmates, not strangers online. 44:30 Vows, Reddit Drama & A 10‑Year Celebration The Kuykendolls tease their upcoming vow renewal, vow-writing rules (no ChatGPT allowed), and the joy of choosing each other again xoxo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Home For The Holidays
2026/01/21
The holidays get real when you’re hosting two full families, juggling gift expectations, assigning rooms, and trying to keep the peace. In this episode, the Kuykendolls break down their first big Christmas in the new house — the joy, the chaos, the “Hunger Games” sleeping chart, and the sweet moments that made it all worth it. If you’ve ever tried to host during the holidays, you can relate!  0:00–2:00 - Beyoncé Date Night & Destiny’s Child Chaos; Shireen defends her vocals, Charles critiques, and they spiral into a Beyoncé/Kelly/Michelle debate. 2:00–3:40 - New Year Rules & “Elevation Information” Debuts; When is it too late to say Happy New Year? The couple sets the official cutoff and launches their new segment. 3:40–5:00 - Holiday Greetings, Inclusivity & December Etiquette; Why “Happy Holidays” is the safest bet, and how to avoid offending people during the season. 5:00–7:10 - The Africa Trip That Didn’t Happen; The plan for Ghana + Cape Town, why it fell through, and why staying home turned out to be the blessing they didn’t know they needed. 7:10–8:30 - Hosting Christmas in the New House; Inviting both families, rushing to furnish the house, and preparing for the biggest holiday gathering yet. 8:30–10:00 - Weeks of Visitors & The Bed‑and‑Breakfast Era; The house becomes a rotating inn, and the kids get to see both sides of the family together for the first time in years. 10:00–12:15 - How They Navigated Holidays While Dating; Food diplomacy, family priorities, and why splitting up for the holidays was never an option. 12:15–16:00 - Tradition vs. “New Age” Holiday Boundaries; The debate around creating your own nuclear‑family traditions vs. showing up for your people. 16:00–22:00 - The Housing Hunger Games: Who Gets a Room?; Assigning rooms, managing expectations, grandma guilt trips, hotel diplomacy, and the complicated holiday‑hosting matrix. 22:00–27:00 - Who Counts as an Adult? Gift‑Giving Rules; The official cutoff for receiving gifts, introducing White Elephant for adults, and the “new adults” stepping into their gifting era. 27:00–29:00 - CJ’s Generosity & The Spirit of Giving; A sweet moment: CJ chooses giving over receiving and surprises his parents with a thoughtful gift from his own savings. 29:00–33:00 - The Dior Saddlebag Mission; Charles’ Amsterdam layover adventure, the Chanel rejection, and the Christmas surprise that almost made Shireen cry. 33:00 - Final Reflections & Future Holiday Traditions; Gratitude, repairing family relationships, and the vision for an elevated White Elephant with friends next year. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Thank You For Being A Friend! feat. René Daniela and Bridget Kelly
2026/01/15
***Please excuse the audio glitch in the beginning of this episode*** In this Meta World Peace episode (number 37), Charles and Shireen sit with close friends/chosen family Bridget Kelly and René Daniela for a warm, funny, and honest conversation about real friendship in your 30s - showing up, building a village, and celebrating each other through every season. 00:00 - 03:18 Charles opens the show mid‑obsession with rewatching his own IG stories, setting the tone for a hilarious conversation about self‑love, storytelling, and friendship energy. 03:18 - 04:56 Shireen steps in as the “phenomenal host” while Charles showers her with praise. Bridget and René join as official “friends of the pod,” kicking off the theme: Thank You for Being a Friend. 04:56 - 05:27 Shifting to positive friendships: Shireen reflects on leaving behind the 10% of negativity and choosing to focus her energy on the 90% of supportive, loving friendships. 05:27 - 06:36 A conversation inspired by KevOnStage: choosing to acknowledge positive comments first and how that shift changes your emotional landscape. 06:36 - 09:40 Charles’ IG story ritual exposed: The group roasts Charles for watching his own IG stories on loop at full volume for 24 hours straight, even static photos with music. A masterclass in New York trolling-as-love-language. 09:40 - 11:01 The Newer Friends Who Became Family: Shireen and Charles reflect on how Bridget and René, despite being newer friends, consistently show up — flights booked, schedules rearranged, no hesitation. 11:01 - 12:38 Friendship Methodology: Intentionality & Inconvenience; Bridget breaks down how adult friendships require time, intention, and sometimes inconvenience — and why showing up matters more as life gets fuller. 12:38 - 14:46 The Alaskan King Crab Chronicles: A comedic detour into René’s obsession with telling people she gets “Alaskan king crab” at their house — not snow crab, not blue crab — Alaskan king crab. A running joke that reveals how reciprocity shows up in their circle. 14:46 - 20:54 Building a Village & Being a Villager; René shares her perspective as a single, globally raised woman who pours deeply into her friendships — and why having a village requires being an active villager. 20:54 - 25:30 Full Cup Friendships & Re‑Categorizing with Grace; René explains how she starts everyone at 100%, gives grace, and adjusts expectations based on reciprocity — without taking things personally. A powerful framework for adult friendship. 25:30 - 33:19 The Five Pillars of Successful Friendship: Communication, Presence, Prioritization, Quality over quantity, Showing yourself friendly, plus a bonus: giving grace. 33:19 - 34:47 Celebrating Growth & Being Each Other’s Cheerleaders; Charles reflects on his Art Basel evolution; from plus‑one to having “Charles Beloved Productions” on the screens, and honors Bridget and René for being unwavering supporters through every season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Not The Only Raye feat. @ItsMyRayeRaye
2026/01/15
This week we welcome our first guest of the season: beauty creator, lifestyle blogger, mom, and digital OG It’s My Raye Raye. From her Tumblr beginnings to becoming one of YouTube’s early success stories, Raye breaks down how the creator landscape has evolved, how she protects her peace, and why authenticity still wins in 2026. We also get into the wild story of how we met and became friends, parenting in the public eye, creator burnout, and a MAJOR announcement she drops exclusively on the pod! 0:00–1:30 It's the Rasheed Wallace number episode! 1:30–2:05 “All Black Everything,” lotion jokes & Crown Skin shoutout   2:05–3:12 Introducing our lovely friend/guest: It’s My Raye Raye   3:12–5:13 The origin of the name “It’s My Raye Raye”   5:13–8:13 Becoming a YouTube OG: experimental Tumblr era → repost culture → early success   8:13–9:32 “There’s enough for everybody” creator wisdom   9:32–12:13 Charles’ viral R&B Nightfall party moment + the universe made the connection   12:13–14:14 Realizing we lived two doors down + instant friendship   14:14–15:54 The pressure of “What’s next?” and the shift in content culture 15:54–17:36 Boundaries, oversharing & protecting your peace online   17:36–19:47 YouTube → Instagram → TikTok: navigating platform shifts   19:47–21:37 Parenting, privacy & letting kids set their own boundaries   21:37–23:18 YouTube comments vs. Instagram comments: which is harsher?   23:18–26:02 Developing thick skin + the “Joe, you need help” troll story   26:02–27:46 Glam + goofy: embracing duality and staying true to yourself 27:46–28:21 Why authenticity always wins on social media   28:21–29:28 Raye’s top 3 creator tips: consistency, representation, be yourself   29:28–30:14 Competing with Gen Z + why representation matters now   30:14–30:53 Posting rhythm: Type Z scheduling & avoiding burnout   30:53–31:13 “Reduce, reuse, recycle”: repurposing content to stay sane   31:13–31:36 Major announcement: Raye’s launching a haircare line   31:36–32:05 Inspired by her daughter Zoe + setting her up for life   32:05–33:31 What she wants to see in 2026: more grace, less judgment   33:31 Closing out with love, gratitude & where to find Raye Tap in with our guest @ItsMyRayeRaye on all platforms! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What If It All Works Out?
2025/12/26
This Christmas‑Eve episode starts with jokes and ends with real life. Charles and Shireen are no strangers to silver linings, so the two open up the "Kevin Durant episode" talking about about grief, friendship, entrepreneurship, mental health, and the wild ride that was 2025. If you’ve been waiting for a sign to stop delaying your dreams… this is it. 3:19 - What If It All Works Out?  Reflecting on risk‑taking, the promises of 2026, and the sudden loss of DJ Commando and why Charles is done bottling emotions. 6:31 -Shireen touches on losing Chyna; reminder that tomorrow isn’t promised and why you should “start today.” 9:02 - Check on your strong friends! It's important to double‑check on your people, reading their energy, and being intentional beyond social media. 12:03 - Stop waiting on your dreams; the Kuykendolls share how grief pushed them both to stop delaying the things they’re called to do. 14:58 - Laying the groundwork; Charles explains why he wasn’t ready for entrepreneurship five years ago — and what changed. 19:42 - Money vs. Power ; Choosing creative control, building the right team, and scaling without losing yourself in the process 24:45 - The podcast almost ended; the metrics said “quit,” but purpose said “keep going.” And then Revolt called 30:11 - Celebrating 2025; Dubai with the kids, Essence Fest, Cannes, McDonald’s, Microsoft, Afrotech, Oxtail Off - and still being nervous about what’s next. 33:56 - Health, fertility, new IPs & hope will be the focus for 2026  Peace, normal blood pressure, new ideas, their 10‑year anniversary, leads us back to consider:  What if it all works out? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Everybody's A Scammer Part II (The Road To Closing)
2025/12/17
It's our Shaq/Scottie Pippen episode y'all! This week the Beloveds needed to keep spilling the tea about the chaotic blessings of their big move, sharing how much transparency and patience was required both at the bank and driving the streets in Houston. 00:02:17 – Kuykendolls recall their most stressful season while moving. 00:04:25 – Triple financial strain: From Airbnb rent, old mortgage, and new house costs. 00:05:02 – Exhausting daily school commutes highlight the unsustainable setup. 00:06:27 – Shireen's birthday wish: forget the party, just sell the house. 00:07:31 – The cash buyer’s funds never materialize, leaving them stuck in limbo. 00:10:32 – Shireen’s corporate job/credit secures loan when Charles’s business income disqualifies him. 00:19:36 – Breakthrough: A local Houston lender offers a bank statement loan, restoring hope. 00:23:43 – Multiple low appraisals force tough negotiations and transparency with friends. 00:25:53 – The family finally moves in; kids are thriving, Mama Tina is settled, the vision for their 40s affirmed. 00:27:47 – A rental solution emerges just in time, preventing double mortgage payments. 00:30:08 – Reflection: This Houston era brings relief, new opportunities, and entrepreneurial energy. 00:31:24 – Houston praised for affordability and generational wealth potential compared to LA. 00:32:25 – Downsides: Houston drivers and road rage frustrations. 00:33:50 – Anecdote: Shireen's first cracked windshield from trucks in fast lane. 00:34:35 – Fashion differences: Houston’s stricter dress codes vs. LA’s laid‑back, homeless chic vibes. 00:36:41 – Food comparison: Houston’s diverse, flavorful scene far surpasses LA’s (sorry to our LA friends😂) 00:37:21 – Houston cost of living perks: cheap gas, bigger homes, better quality of life. 00:38:07 – Career reflections: centralized travel, bookings and business connections are still strong in LA, despite them leaving. 00:38:46 – A good friend reminds them they still own their LA house — future possibilities remain open. 00:39:00 – Now comes the excitement for Houston adventures, gratitude, and promise of a new season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Everybody's A Scammer (Broke Beloved)
2025/12/10
We're back! Season 4 opens with a healthy dose of chaos and comedy: Essence Fest highs, a big move to Houston, scammy movers, bird invasions, trap house apartments, and finally a realtor’s offer. Episode 33 is a rollercoaster of "broke" dreams and big laughs. 00:20 – Season 4 kicks off live from Houston ; Charles and Shireen make their grand entrance, joking about budgets, brokenness, and the glow-up energy of recording in Texas. 02:00 – Essence Fest recap + the big move reveal ; They rewind to summer adventures ...Essence Fest, Cannes - before dropping the cliffhanger: leaving LA behind for Houston. 03:42 – Shireen goes fully remote - Houston becomes home; Shireen shares how her employer supported her transition to remote work, making the Houston dream possible. 05:07 – Carter’s birthday + moving chaos; Between signing house papers and funneling every dollar into the build, Carter’s birthday party gets downsized to cake and a pool splash. 06:10 – The Porter Ranch house sale that never happened ; Charles reveals his “sell high, buy low” scheme — equity dreams, Airbnb plans, and an AP watch wish list — all dashed when the house wouldn’t sell. 07:00 – Movers, scams, and firing on the spot ; The couple recounts the moving company drama: bait-and-switch tactics, surprise fees, and Shireen firing the crew mid-job. 12:40 – The $5K surprise fee meltdown ; A heated showdown over cubic feet and hidden costs — Shireen unleashes a legendary curse-word symphony before negotiating directly with Jorge’s team. 18:20 – Bird flies into the house mid-move ; As movers pack, a bird invades the home, leading to a chaotic chase with boxes and high ceilings — symbolic of the madness of moving. 20:30 – Houston arrival + hotel drama ; After self-financing upgrades and draining savings, they land in Houston only to face car damage and shady lodging. 23:01 – Trap house apartment fiasco; The “Landing” rental looks polished online but feels like Training Day in person — sketchy vibes, broken gates, shirtless neighbors, and a dead water bug in the tub. 27:14 – Realtor calls with an offer ; Just as doubts creep in, their realtor delivers a potential buyer’s offer — a moment of relief and validation that the move might actually work out. 32:00 – Reflection + setting up Houston life ; The episode closes with laughter, exhaustion, and perspective: from scams and setbacks to resilience and new beginnings, they embrace Houston as home. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Working Smarter - Is AI The Future?
2025/06/18
Season 3 finale! We did it, Joe! Every season there's a moment of questioning whether or not to continue the pod, but the outpouring of love, support and encouragement has grown more and more, so we will keep the party going. Shireen and Charles circle back to the Oxtail Off and how they forgot to mention their silent partner; ChatGPT. Shireen says she and Charles were early on the AI bandwagon, and he credits Morgan Debaun, CEO of Blavity for explaining the benefits of it. At Afrotech, it was introduced as a "thought partner", meant to be asked specific questions to provide ideas and layers you may not have considered before(1:02-6:50). Detailed prompts provide detailed outlines or decks. Paying max $200 for a completed deck from AI versus a few thousand was a win! Shireen chimes in to share that she uses AI for personal and professional things. The company she works for warned everyone to be cautious when using, especially when it comes to sensitive data. She also warns everyone not to input any confidential or proprietary information for your own protection, you never know who could potentially access it later. Shireen says her only concern is for the youth, who don't necessarily have the writing/comprehension skills, they just want to turn their brains off. Charles jokes that if he were apart of this upcoming generation that he would be dumb, he would've relied on it for everything, since he claims to have been the king of Cliffnotes(IYKYK) back in high school(7:48-16:01). Charles admits to going back and forth in the comments defending his use of AI in place of human creatives, but emphasizes the importance of discerning when/where to apply it. Switching gears, Charles says it would be nice for AI to clone them for all the travel they have coming up this summer, since that schedule is the main reason for season 3 coming to a close. Charles lists all the amazing events he's got on the calendar(18:21-24:03). Shireen shares her excitement about CJ's birthday party, saying its his first one in a while, they usually take trips to celebrate. She looks forward to planning the next installment of Oxtail Off and all of Charles' accomplishments. This next season will be even more abundant! Both Charles and Shireen are grateful for the continued growth and hope to see y'all outside in these streets! Run up and tell Charles if he's funny in real life, Shireen has too much second hand anxiety for anybody new trying comedy. Have a great summer and we'll see y'all soon! Keep up with us on IG @forbetterrorbestpod and follow us in the off season! @beloved1906 @miss_deme Like, Subscribe, Comment, and Share! xoxo Keep up with us on IG @forbetterrorbestpod and follow us in the off season! @beloved1906 @miss_deme Like, Subscribe, Comment, and Share! xoxo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Mia Bia 2025/06/22
Not A.I. expert
Just finished the season finale of season 3 and I’ve been thinking about a coding class I went to recently that used A.I. to code, the most recent epi...
★★★★★
ladyesq62 2025/06/18
One of my favorite new listens of 2025
I’ve really enjoyed Shireen and Charles on this podcasts. I’ve seen the clips on social media but took the time to listen over the last 3 months. They...
★★★★★
prettyoneder 2025/04/17
Real talk and real love
Easily one of my favorites because they talk about their relationship in a way that feels honest not performative. Listening to them feels like sittin...
★★★★★
vontep 2025/03/27
Amazing
Listening to this podcast feels like being part of the family. The stories are engaging, relatable, and always bring laughter. They also spark meaning...
★★★★★
yonnthedon 2024/06/22
A weekly treat!!!
Incredibly engaging, funny and insightful! It’s a treat to witness an authentic journey of vulnerability, growth and diverse topics through the eyes o...
★★★★★
Danadane84 2024/05/22
Dope discussions!
Love the candid discussions from this couple on juggling love, work, and children. As a married woman in my 30s the topics are very relatable.
★★★★★
Kareem MaLiK Edwards 2024/04/21
When authenticity meets insightful!
When authenticity meets insightful! Amazing show 💪🏾
★★★★★
Ms. Bozack 2024/04/17
Grown Folks Business
This podcast is a perfect mix of culture and candid adulting at its finest. When Shireen and Charles broke down the process with the contractor, I was...
★★★★★
curlyfrocutie 2023/07/26
Yaaaas Black Love!!
I live in LA and I’ve seen y’all on black love and at some of your events. To know that y’all are out here educating the masses on your personal stori...
★★★★★
DeeshRLP 2023/05/22
Amazing podcast!
So real & relatable! A great show for young married black couples to learn from and laugh with. Shireen and Charles have a rela similar to my hubby an...
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