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Send us a text We rethink pain from the ground up with Monica Noy, separating nociception from pain and showing how sloppy language and seductive stories distort care. We examine multiple modes of nociceptive activation, challenge “root cause” thinking, and push for ethical, precise explanations that validate lived experience. • nociception as necessary for pain, not equivalent to pain • immune, neuroinflammatory, cellular, and prolonged stress pathways activating nociception • the nail-in-the-boot anecdote clarified and deconflated • risks of guru narratives and circular brain-first explanations • the pitfalls of “root cause” and regional interdependence • pain-driven movement changes versus movement as cause • clinical descriptors as mechanisms of nociception, not pain types • social determinants as context, not convenient causal levers • semantics as shared meaning that improves assessment and care Please subscribe so you can be the first to listen to new episodes If you enjoyed this episode, share to your favorite social media platforms Pain Education No Script Provided is a self-directed course which is now available for purchase on my website, the CEBE.com If you'd like to financially support my podcast, please consider making a small donation by clicking on the support button or visiting buymeacoffee.com/helloob The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text We examine the IASP definition of pain, why shared language matters, and how sloppy semantics derail research and care. We contrast barriers to recovery with causes, clarify differences between nociceptors and nociception, and use sensitization and nociplastic as hypotheses that guide better reasoning. • using the IASP definition to ground assessment • distinguishing nociceptors, neurons, and nociception • reframing biopsychosocial as barriers to recovery • identifying sensitization without overpathologizing • applying nociceptive, nociplastic, neuropathic as hypotheses • avoiding conflations like “pain signals” in clinic and AI • aligning treatment dosing to irritability and mechanism Please subscribe on your favorite podcast network. If you enjoyed this episode, please share to your favorite social media platforms. To connect with me, visit thecebe.com or DM me on Instagram at eric_purves_cebe, or find me on Facebook @EricPurvesRMT. If you would like to support my podcast, please consider making a small donation by clicking the support button or visiting buymeacoffee.com/helloOB. The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text Without understanding social determinants of health, pain care becomes guesswork dressed as certainty. Monica Noy helps us separate influence from cause and shows why humility is a clinical skill. • why private care creates privilege and access gaps • how BPS gets narrowed and misused as causation • influence versus cause across bio, psycho and social factors • education gaps in neuroscience and pain mechanisms • harms of structural narratives and “root cause” claims • core social determinants: income, racism, education, work, sleep, access • sex and gender biases in research and pain treatment • racism and under treatment of pain  • practical ways to center context without blame • building trust through transparency and uncertainty Pain Education, no script provided, is now available for purchase on my website, thecebe.com To listen to more of these episodes, please subscribe on your favorite podcast network If you enjoyed this episode, please like and share to your favorite social media platforms If you’d like to connect with me, I can be reached to my website, thecebe.com, or send me a DM through Instagram @Eric_purves_cebe If you really like this episode and you want to support my podcast, please consider making a small donation. This can be done by clicking on the support button or heading over to buymeacoffee.com/helloob The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text We question whether it is ethical to cause pain during manual therapy and unpack what nociception, tissue insult, and consent truly mean. We challenge heuristics like no pain, no gain and ground decision-making in evidence, context, and patient autonomy. • defining pain and nociception as signals of actual or potential tissue damage • challenging bruising and discomfort as therapeutic proof • critiquing hurt does not equal harm as a blanket rule • considering acute movement without adding insult• separating clinical experience from mechanisms • identifying knowledge gaps and outcome bias • using informed consent beyond a checklist • acknowledging identity, change, and humility in practice • recognizing social determinants and inequities in pain care Pain Education NoScript Provided is now available for purchase on my website, the CEBE.com To listen to more of these episodes, please subscribe on your favorite podcast network If you enjoyed this episode, please like and share to your favorite social media platforms. If you'd like to connect with me directly, I can be reached through my website or send me a DM through either Facebook or Instagram at EricPurves RMT.  If you want to support my podcast, please consider making a small donation. This can be done by clicking on the support button or heading over to buymeacoffee.com/helloob The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text What if pain education got the fundamentals wrong by chasing tidy scripts instead of solid mechanisms? We sit down with researcher and educator Monica Noy to rethink how clinicians learn, reason, and communicate about pain. Rather than leaning on “explain pain” narratives and one-size-fits-all language, Monica anchors care in a clear premise: nociception is necessary—though not always sufficient—for pain. That single shift reframes assessment, reduces blame, and helps us speak to people with honesty and respect. Across a candid, story-rich conversation, we explore why pain care remains under-taught across health professions despite being the top reason people seek MSK help. Monica traces the evolution of common teaching approaches, the biases that shaped them, and the real-world fallout when clinicians over-educate, over-promise, or quietly fault patients for not “thinking right.” We talk ethics, too: if pain is associated with actual or potential tissue damage, what does it mean to create pain during treatment? When does intensity cross into harm, and how do we decide with patients rather than for them? You’ll hear a grounded way to use the biopsychosocial lens without turning it into a moving target that justifies endless chasing. We discuss definitions, semantics, and why shared language matters; how better mechanism literacy leads to fewer words and better questions; and what Monica’s new course, Pain Education, No Script Provided, offers clinicians who want to be less wrong and more helpful. Expect fewer scripts, more clarity, and a renewed respect for autonomy—yours and your patients’. Enjoyed the conversation? Subscribe, share with a colleague who teaches or treats pain, and leave a review to help others find the show. The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text Sarah MacAulay, an RMT from Stewiacke, Nova Scotia, brings a fresh perspective on dual relationships in massage therapy, challenging the profession's traditional ethical guidelines that don't reflect rural practice realities. Living in a town of approximately 1,800 people, Sarah shares her journey of navigating professional relationships that inevitably overlap with personal ones, revealing how urban-centric ethics create unnecessary burdens for rural practitioners. • Dual relationships occur when professional therapeutic relationships overlap with personal connections • Traditional ethics teaching instructs therapists to "avoid dual relationships" without providing context for rural practitioners • The abstinence approach to dual relationships is unrealistic in small communities where practitioners know most patients • Research from other healthcare professions shows risks of dual relationships are often overstated • Patients in small communities often prefer being treated by someone they know and trust • The burden of reconciling practice reality with traditional ethics creates unnecessary guilt for rural practitioners • Successful management of dual relationships involves honesty, communication, and co-created boundaries • Current ethical frameworks derived from urban institutional settings don't translate to rural practice • Practitioners need education on managing dual relationships rather than simply being told to avoid them • Sarah is developing guidelines to support therapists navigating dual relationships in small communities Join Sarah at the upcoming Knowledge Summit on Sunday, October 5th, where she'll present "A Closer Look at Dual Relationships in Research and Practice" – offering research-informed approaches for practitioners working in small communities. The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text Can the flexibility of a new professional development model for massage therapists change the status quo? Discover how British Columbia’s innovative approach is setting the stage for a shift in how therapists across Canada approach continuing education. We delve into the challenges and triumphs of this flexible professional development model, weighing the benefits of personalized learning against the risks of diminished oversight. Hear firsthand about our experiences and the fervent support we’ve encountered, as well as the critical role that evidence-based practices must play in shaping the future of massage therapy education. This episode takes us to the American Massage Therapy Association's annual conference in Tampa, Florida, where we shared insights on managing fibromyalgia. This international perspective highlights the gaps and opportunities in Canadian massage therapy professional associations. We reflect on the current climate for Registered Massage Therapists, emphasizing the need for critical thinking and a shift away from outdated traditions to evidence-backed knowledge. Our conversation culminates in a call to action for therapists to challenge the status quo and embrace a more inclusive approach to learning. By focusing on the integration of manual skills within an evidence-based framework, we champion the need to reduce pseudoscience and foster critical thinking throughout the profession. Listen in to gain a deeper understanding of how massage therapists can redefine their practice to truly benefit their clients, keeping pace with the latest scientific standards and innovations in the field. The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text There are many common misunderstandings about evidence based practice (EBP). It is not all about the reserach evidence, although that is a critical component. Join us for a critical conversation with Nadine Hawyrluk, where we clear up the common misunderstandings surrounding evidence-based practice and the new standards set by the CMTBC. We dissect the requirements for maintaining an evidence-based approach, from staying up-to-date with the latest research to ensuring learning activities are taught by knowledgeable instructors. This is your chance to refine your learning plans and improve your practice to meet these  standards, ensuring your patients receive the best possible care. In this episode, Nadine and I address the nuanced challenges and contradictions that arise in evidence-based practices, focusing on differentiating current trends and techniques from those that simply rehash anatomical knowledge. We delve into the ethical implications of providing accurate information to patients, highlighting the responsibility of healthcare professionals to avoid perpetuating unverified treatment narratives. This conversation is essential for any RMT committed to ethical and informed practice. Curious about the claims surrounding prenatal care techniques like Spinning Babies? We scrutinize the evidence supporting such bold claims and discuss whether these practices fall within the scope of massage therapy. Moving toward the broader picture, we emphasize critical thinking in research evaluation, using polyvagal theory as a case study to demonstrate practical techniques for challenging preconceptions. Tune in to discover valuable resources for evidence-based practice and research evaluation, and arm yourself with the tools to scrutinize educational courses and their claims effectively. This episode is a must-listen for every RMT dedicated to providing high-quality, evidence-based care. The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text Can massage therapists truly prescribe and monitor therapeutic exercise programs effectively? Join us in a conversation with Michelle Smith from Saskatoon, making her third appearance on the podcast, as we tackle this provocative question head-on. Michelle, whose expertise spans kinesiology and exercise physiology, shares her critical insights into the current state of training for massage therapists, particularly when dealing with clients with co-occurring medical conditions. Together, we uncover potential gaps in knowledge and the practical challenges therapists face when integrating therapeutic exercise into their treatment plans. Our discussion takes a dive into the psychological aspects of exercise, debunking common myths about stretching and its supposed benefits for pain management and athletic performance. We highlight the necessity of customizing exercise recommendations to fit individual preferences and mental readiness. By understanding each client's unique background, lifestyle, and mental health status, therapists can foster more effective and personalized therapeutic interventions. Michelle emphasizes the importance of encouraging positive behavioral changes through tailored exercise plans, moving away from a one-size-fits-all approach. We also examine the broader implications for the massage therapy profession, discussing the role of therapeutic exercise within RMT scope of practice. Our conversation underscores the need for clearer guidelines and potential curriculum reforms to better equip therapists. Michelle and I stress the significance of continuous learning, critical thinking, and seeking credible sources to challenge outdated practices and advance the field. This episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about the future of massage therapy and the integration of holistic, evidence-based approaches to client care. The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here

Send us a text Join us as we sit down with Richard Hawes, a Registered Massage Therapist who has had over 30 years of experience as an RMT and now works with the Vancouver Whitecaps. Richard's path is anything but ordinary—starting off as an aspiring soccer player, pivoting to a police officer in Hong Kong, and ultimately finding his passion in massage therapy in Vancouver.  Richard opens up about his personal battle with cancer and how this life-altering experience reignited his passion for massage therapy. From owning a clinic to treating top athletes, Richard's story is a powerful reminder of the importance of following your professional dreams and not settling into a routine job. Listen as he shares invaluable insights on the challenges and rewards of working with high-performing athletes and the significance of maintaining passion in one's career. His narrative underscores the vital role of listening in clinical practice and the profound impact of therapeutic relationships with athletes. Get an insider's perspective on what it's like to be a sports massage therapist integrated within a professional team. We explore everything from the demanding pre-season schedules and game day preparations to the collaborative efforts of medical professionals ensuring optimal player care. Richard offers a detailed look at the daily routines, the complexities of travel, and the importance of a therapeutic alliance between therapist and athlete. Whether you're an aspiring therapist, a sports enthusiast, or simply someone interested in compelling life stories, this conversation with Richard Hawes is sure to enlighten and inspire. The Massage Science Podcast and my company, The Centre for Evidence-Based Education (The CEBE), are now official partners with Noterro. Partnering with them feels like a natural alignment with our mission to support busy clinicians. Get Noterro free for 44 days!Noterro makes clinic management easy with scheduling, billing, and charting all in one place Courageous Alignment3Tools and insights for a more aligned, present, and truthful life. Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Support the show Head on over to my website. This includes a list of all my upcoming courses, webinars, self-directed learning opportunities as well as some helpful learning resources. thecebe.com Please connect with me on social media FB: @ericpurvesrmt IG: @eric_purves_cebe YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ericpurves2502 Would you like to make a donation to help support the costs of running my podcast? You can buy me a coffee by clicking here