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In this episode, I'm joined by Abi Liu, Head Coach of the Bellevue Club Swim Team in Bellevue, Washington. Originally from China, Abi joined the Chinese National Team at 13 years old and went on to become a two-time National Champion, a World Cup winner, and a silver medalist at the 1994 Asian Games in the 200 backstroke. After transitioning into coaching, Abi founded PEAK Swimming in California — growing it from 24 swimmers into a USA Swimming Silver Medal Club over 11 years. She was named 2019 Pacific Swimming Coach of the Year and has coached the USA Swimming Junior National Team. In 2021, she took over as head coach at Bellevue Club Swim Team, where she continues to build one of the top club programs in the Pacific Northwest. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/ FOLLOW ABI: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abiswim/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for a special discount https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I'm joined by Morgan Ray, Paralympian and Team USA Para swimmer. Born with achondroplasia, the most common form of dwarfism, Morgan began swimming at age five following his older brother into the sport. After missing the 2021 Tokyo Games by two-tenths of a second, he channeled that heartbreak into fuel — going on to earn a silver medal at the 2022 World Para Swimming Championships and representing Team USA at the 2024 Paris Paralympic Games. Now a graduate of the University of North Florida, Morgan is giving back to the sport as a coach at the Bolles School while setting his sights on the 2028 Paralympics. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/ FOLLOW MORGAN: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/morgan_ray413/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for a special discount https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I'm joined by Tucker Dupree, three-time Paralympian and four-time Paralympic medalist. At 17, Tucker was diagnosed with Leber's Hereditary Optic Neuropathy, a rare condition that caused him to lose nearly 80% of his central vision in both eyes. Rather than stepping away from the sport, he leaned into it — competing at the 2008, 2012, and 2016 Paralympic Games and earning medals on the world's biggest stage. Today, Tucker gives back to the swimming community as a clinician with the Fitter and Faster Swim Tour, bringing his experience and perspective to swimmers and coaches across the country. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/ FOLLOW TUCKER: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tuckerusa1/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for a special discount https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I'm joined by JJ Langhals, Site Coordinator and Lead Senior & Varsity Coach at Excel Aquatics in Tennessee. Coach JJ has been coaching since 2007 and has spent nearly a decade with Excel Aquatics, where he's built a reputation for creating training environments that challenge athletes and keep them invested in their own growth. With over 23,000 followers on Instagram as @swimcoachJJ, he's become one of the more recognizable voices in the club swimming space — consistently sharing ideas, sparking conversation, and connecting with coaches at every level. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/ FOLLOW JJ: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swimcoachjj/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for a special discount https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I'm joined by Brad Shannon, Assistant Coach of Swimming & Diving at Colorado School of Mines. As a student-athlete at Ohio State University, Shannon was a walk-on who went on to earn Ohio State and Big Ten Scholar Athlete honors all four years. He also qualified for the 2016 USA Swimming Olympic Trials. After graduating, Shannon built his coaching career as a lead assistant at the University of Rochester before taking over as head coach at William Peace University in North Carolina. In his two seasons leading the program, Shannon's staff earned the 2024-25 ISSC Men's Swimming Coaching Staff of the Year. He joined the Mines staff in the summer of 2025. In his first year at Mines, the Men's and Women's Swimming & Diving teams sent a record 12 individuals and three relays to the 2026 NCAA Division II Championships — the largest contingent in program history. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/ FOLLOW MINES: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/minesswimminganddiving/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for a special discount https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I'm joined by Matt Hurst, Head Coach of Swimming at Mercersburg Academy and Assistant Director of College Counseling. Hurst is a graduate of Southern Connecticut State University, where he swam collegiately, and went on to spend 16 years coaching at the NCAA level — including a tenure as Associate Head Coach at Penn State University and time at Chelsea Piers Aquatics Club in Stamford, CT. Two of the athletes he coached competed at the 2024 Paris Olympics — Shane Ryan for Ireland and Gabe Castaño for Mexico. In this conversation, Hurst shares how his college coaching background shapes the way he develops swimmers at the high school level. Hurst also opens up about his dual role in college counseling and how that perspective gives him a distinct lens on the recruiting process that few coaches at any level can offer. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/ FOLLOW MATT HURST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matt.hurst966/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for a special discount https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I'm joined by Chico Rego, Head Coach of George Washington University Swimming & Diving. Originally from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Rego worked his way up the coaching ladder from a Graduate Assistant at Auburn to Associate Head Coach at Georgia Tech — where he guided athletes to 13 NCAA All-America honors, including Tokyo Olympian Caio Pumputis — before taking the helm at GW in 2024. In his first season, he led both the men's and women's teams to A-10 Championships while being named A-10 Men's Coach of the Year. One of the most forward-thinking coaches in college swimming, Rego shares his coaching philosophy, his innovative approach to building a program, and the ideas he believes are shaping the future of the sport. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/ FOLLOW GW: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gwswimdive/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for a special discount https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I'm joined by Tamber McAllister, Head Coach of BYU Swimming & Diving. As a student-athlete at BYU from 2000-2004, McAllister was a breaststroke specialist, a four-time Mountain West Conference champion in the 200 breast, and a competitor at the 2000 U.S. Olympic Trials. McAllister spent a combined 16 years as an assistant at BYU across three stints, before serving as head coach at Utah Tech from 2018-2021, where she earned RMAC Coach of the Year honors. She returned to BYU as an assistant before being named head coach in May 2024. In her first season leading the program, McAllister guided the women's team to a 23rd-place finish at the NCAA Championships — the program's best in 34 years — and was named Big 12 Women's Swimming Co-Coach of the Year. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/ FOLLOW BYU: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/byuswimdive/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for a special discount https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I'm joined by Mickey Wender. Wender is one of the most accomplished collegiate swim coaches in the country, racking up nearly 500 dual meet wins across more than 32 years as a collegiate head coach. Colorado Mesa University Athletics He began his collegiate coaching career at Cal State University Northridge before taking the helm at the University of Washington from 1998–2006, then serving as the head coach at Army West Point from 2006–2019. Colorado Mesa University Athletics During his time with the Black Knights, he was named the Patriot League Swimming Coach of the Year three times. Colorado Mesa University Athletics In 2019, Wender took on a new challenge, being named Head Coach of Swimming & Diving and Triathlon at Colorado Mesa University, Colorado Mesa University Athletics where he has since built the Mavericks into a perennial Division II powerhouse. In this episode, Wender shares his journey from his early days as a young and ambitious head coach at the University of Washington, to taking on the unique challenge of leading the men and women at Army West Point, and ultimately making the move to Colorado Mesa University where he has elevated the Mavericks to the top of Division II swimming.

This week on the podcast, we sit down with UNCW Head Swim Coach Bobby Guntoro. A former Seahawk swimmer turned head coach, Guntoro has quickly built UNCW into one of the top mid-major programs in the country. After spending 8 years on staff at NC State Wolfpack swimming and diving—including time as Associate Head Coach—he returned to his alma mater in 2020 to lead both the men’s and women’s programs. Since taking over, Guntoro has created a true “championship culture,” leading UNCW to multiple Coastal Athletic Association titles, including recent conference sweeps and back-to-back dominant seasons. In this episode, we dive into his journey from international swimmer representing Indonesia to Division I head coach, and how he’s building a sustainable winning program in Wilmington. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/ FOLLOW BOBBY: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/guntorob/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for a special discount https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, we sit down with Wisconsin assistant coach Johno Fergusson to talk about his journey through the highest levels of swimming. From his early coaching impact in South Africa to making the move to the U.S., Johno has built a reputation for developing elite talent. He’s coached under legendary coach Bob Bowman and played a key role at Southern Illinois, where he helped develop NCAA-caliber swimmers and elevate the program. We dive into his coaching philosophy, athlete development, and what it takes to succeed at the top-level of collegiate swimming. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/ FOLLOW JOHNO: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnofergusson83/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for 20% off https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, we sit down with LSU Assistant Coach Pace Clark to talk about his role on deck with the Tigers and what it takes to coach at the highest level of collegiate swimming. Pace also shares insights from his own competitive career, including training and racing alongside some of the sport’s biggest names like Michael Phelps and Chase Kalisz. From elite training environments to lessons that shaped his coaching philosophy, this conversation gives a unique look at swimming at the highest level—both as an athlete and a coach. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/?hl=en FOLLOW PACE: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paceclark/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for a special discount https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, we sit down with Santi Grassi, the Argentine swimmer who didn’t just compete — but twice represented his country at the Olympic Games. We talk passion, pressure, and the journey from Santa Fe to the U.S. collegiate system — along with breaking national records and what it takes to keep chasing goals when you no longer have to. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutsw... FOLLOW SANTI: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/santigrassi... SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for 20% off https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.... use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, we dive deep with Hannah Bach — an Ohio State University swimming legend and one of the most decorated athletes in Buckeye history. Over an incredible collegiate career, Hannah became a four-time Big Ten Conference champion in the 100-yard breaststroke, earning First Team All-Big Ten honors each of those seasons and multiple All-American distinctions at the NCAA Championships. Her performances helped Ohio State dominate the Big Ten titles repeatedly, and she consistently posted elite times that put her among the nation’s best breaststrokers. We talk about her journey from Brecksville, Ohio, to becoming a cornerstone of the Buckeyes’ swim & dive program, her comeback to competitive swimming, and the dedication it takes to stay at the top of your sport.

In this episode, our guest is Matthew Klotz, elite Deaflympian swimmer and former LSU collegiate athlete. Matthew is one of the most decorated deaf swimmers in U.S. history, holding multiple Deaflympic medals and deaf world records across backstroke and freestyle events. He represents Team USA on the international stage and has broken numerous national and world deaf records in the pool. Beyond swimming, Matthew made history as the first deaf/hard-of-hearing contestant on Big Brother Season 25, reaching the finale and bringing representation to millions.