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In this episode, we went live for a conversation with Karl Hamouche, co-founder of Swim Smart and co-inventor of the Squeezline. Karl moved from Lebanon to Iowa at age 12, found his place through swimming, and later returned as a coach to help grow the same team — launching a satellite program and helping them win their first club state title.With a background in biology, exercise science, and medicine, Karl lives at the intersection of science and real-world swimming. He still swims almost every day, competes regularly, and uses his time in the water to develop smarter ways to help swimmers improve. We’ll talk coaching, innovation, and what swimming smart means to Karl.

In this episode of the Get Out Swim Podcast, we sit down with Iago Moussalem, Swim Training & Recruiting Coordinator at Georgia Tech Swimming & Diving and former Brazilian National Team swimmer. Iago competed collegiately at Miami (Ohio) University and Indiana University, where he raced at the highest level of NCAA swimming. He also represented Brazil internationally at the World University Games and the Pan Pacific Championships. Now coaching at a high level, Iago brings experience from his work at Georgia Tech, Metro Atlanta Aquatic Club, and his own venture, Fortius Swim, which provides elite-level virtual training to swimmers worldwide. He has also contributed to the sport through roles with organizations such as Fitter & Faster. We also dive into his leadership style, his belief in leading from the heart, and the importance he places on genuinely caring for his athletes, both in and out of the pool. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/?hl=en FOLLOW IAGO & GTSWIM&DIVE: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iago.mo/?hl=en Website: https://ramblinwreck.com/sports/c-swim/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for 20% off https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, we sit down with Coach Ethan and Coach Ronnie, two key leaders at RSA who bring years of high-level coaching experience and a shared foundation to the program. Coach Ethan leads RSA’s Senior Gold group and works with the Dolphin group, drawing from his experience coaching at the collegiate level, USA Swimming clubs, and alongside professional and NCAA athletes. Coach Ronnie serves as RSA’s Head Age Group Coach, leading the PreSenior and Wahoo groups, with a strong background in athlete development, program leadership, and USA Swimming education. Before RSA, Ethan and Ronnie crossed paths in Connecticut, where they co-founded a USA Swimming club. From there, their coaching journeys took different paths—Ethan moving on to collegiate and elite-level coaching, and Ronnie continuing to build athletes and programs at the club, high school, and LSC levels. That shared starting point continues to influence their collaborative approach at RSA today. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/?hl=en FOLLOW RSA: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swimrsa/?hl=en Website: https://www.swimrsa.org/page/home SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for 20% off https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I’m joined by Ben Lee, a highly respected coach with extensive experience at the club, elite, and international levels. Ben has worked closely with David Marsh, Team Elite Aquatics, and other world-class programs, including the LA Current in the International Swimming League. His background spans everything from developing swimmers at the club level to preparing athletes for international competition alongside some of the sport’s most accomplished coaches. Building on that experience, Ben founded RaceBetter, a performance-focused coaching platform that delivers elite-level instruction through in-person clinics, detailed video analysis, and remote coaching services. Through RaceBetter, Ben collaborates with top swimmers and clinicians to deliver practical, science-backed strategies that help athletes train smarter, race faster, and extend longevity in the sport. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM ON: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/?hl=en FOLLOW BEN LEE: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/benjaminrlee_/?hl=en Website: https://racebetter.org/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for 20% off https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I’m joined by Dan Daly, CSCS, swim coach, performance trainer, and founder of Train Daly. Dan brings a rare blend of elite swimming experience and strength & conditioning expertise. A former high school All-American, Division I scholarship athlete, Division II All-American, and national finalist, Dan has spent over 35 years in the sport as a swimmer and more than 20 years coaching athletes across levels. He continues to compete as a masters and open-water swimmer while helping athletes train smarter through dryland strength and conditioning. We talk about Dan’s transition from athlete to coach and why dryland training plays such a critical role in improving swim technique, strength, and speed. He shares how his background in kinesiology and nutrition shapes his coaching approach, common mistakes swimmers make in the gym, and how training should differ for sprinters, distance swimmers, and endurance athletes. We also discuss Dan’s work with remote coaching, how he programs dryland training for his athletes, and what swimmers can realistically improve even without in-person access. Dan works with athletes of all abilities — from world-class competitors and collegiate hopefuls to adult swimmers — and explains how well-designed training environments support long-term improvement. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM ON: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/?hl=en FOLLOW DAN DALY: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dandaly/?hl=en X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/TrainDaly Website: https://www.traindaly.com/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS https://www.swimsmarttoday.com/ use code GETOUTSWIM for 20% off https://www.aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I’m joined by Eric Anderson, Head Coach of the Malaysian National Swimming Team and co-founder of MAKO Swim. Eric brings a truly global perspective to coaching. Before leading Malaysia’s national program, he’s coached at high levels in multiple countries, including Canada and Denmark, working with elite swimmers and gaining insight into how different systems approach performance, athlete development, and team culture. We talk about what he’s learned from coaching internationally — what transfers, what doesn’t, and how those experiences shape the way he builds training environments today. We also break down the Malaysian national team setup. Malaysia may not always come up in global swimming conversations, but Eric shares why the country actually has excellent resources, facilities, and support for its national team athletes — and how those resources are being used to help swimmers progress on the international stage. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM ON: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim/?hl=en SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS swimsmarttoday.com use code GETOUTSWIM for 20% off aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, I sit down with Steve Jungbluth, a highly accomplished collegiate swim coach with nearly three decades of experience across Division I and Division III programs. Steve spent 12 years at the University of Florida, contributing to the Gators’ success with multiple SEC titles, NCAA podium finishes, and the development of some of the fastest swimmers in program history. His career includes coaching NCAA champions, Olympians, and Olympic gold medal performances, including world-record holder Caeleb Dressel. We dive into Steve’s approach to building programs and athletes, including how he helped transform Colgate University into Patriot League champions—one of the most challenging and rewarding chapters of his career. He also shares how he helped build Florida’s sprint program into one of the best in the country, and why he believes every set, drill, and detail must have a clear purpose to drive long-term development and performance. FOLLOW THEGETOUTSWIM ON: Instagram: www.instagram.com/thegetoutswim SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS swimsmarttoday.com use code GETOUTSWIM for 20% off aquaticsportsperformance.com/digital-programs use code ASPGETOUT for a 15% off

In this episode, Coach Jerry Adams shares insights from more than three decades on the pool deck, guiding swimmers from local clubs all the way to the Olympic stage. I’ve known Jerry since I was seven years old swimming in Adirondack, and today I’m fortunate to coach across the pool deck from someone I’ve always looked up to. He’s consistently taken an interest in my swimming and personal well-being, and his influence is felt throughout the Capital District. Join us for a conversation with one of Adirondack’s most respected coaches. 🎧 Sponsor Huge thank you to our sponsor for supporting this episode! Check out Swim Smart for innovative training products: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com Use promo code GETOUTSWIM at checkout for a discount!

In this episode, I'm joined by Ohio State’s associate head coach and director of player development, Brian Schrader. Brian brings more than 30 years of coaching experience, championship success, and international impact. We talk about his role in building Big Ten titles at Ohio State, developing Olympic-Trials semifinalists, guiding athletes onto the U.S. National Team, and helping Canada break a national relay record at the World Championships. Brian also shares stories from his years leading Denver’s powerhouse mid-major program, coaching NCAA All-Americans at Iowa, working with the ISL-champion Cali Condors, and serving on national staffs for Team USA, Canada, Croatia, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. If you love high-performance coaching, athlete development, or how elite swim programs are built, this episode is for you. 🎧 Sponsor Huge thank you to our sponsor for supporting this episode! Check out Swim Smart for innovative training products: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com Use promo code GETOUTSWIM at checkout for a discount!

In this episode, I sit down with Joao Mescolote—elite performance coach, clinician, and founder of Swim Fastr. Joao has worked with some of the fastest swimmers in the world and travels the country teaching and refining technique at clinics nationwide. He also creates daily Instagram content showcasing top-tier swim insights, and produces weekly vlogs highlighting some of the best swim programs across the U.S. Joao is not only a leader in the sport—he’s also a good friend. In this conversation, we dive into high-performance habits, athlete development, coaching philosophy, and some crucial takeaways for swimmers and coaches alike. 🔗 Connect with Joao Website: https://www.swimcoachjoao.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swimcoachjoao YouTube: https://youtu.be/nVP0uE7hV3I?si=4WHJFwe42ZUSnA0x 🎧 Sponsor Huge thank you to our sponsor for supporting this episode! Check out Swim Smart for innovative training products: https://www.swimsmarttoday.com Use promo code GETOUTSWIM at checkout for a discount!

In this episode, I sit down with Sean Kao, founder and CEO of Aquatic Sports Performance. Sean launched ASP in 2019, starting with just one athlete. Since then, he’s grown it into a program that now supports athletes ages 7 to 84 across swimming and multiple sports. His coaching background spans youth, high school, NCAA, and Olympic-level athletes, with experience in hockey, soccer, volleyball, and competitive swimming. He’s previously coached at the Center for Athletic Performance & Physical Therapy in Scottsdale and the Fullerton Aquatics Sports Team, and his graduate research on strength training for swimmers was published in the Journal of Swimming Research. Outside of coaching, Sean continues to train and compete in swimming, Olympic weightlifting, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Tune in for a conversation on long-term development, high-performance training, and what it takes to help athletes succeed at any age. Sponsor: Huge thank you to @swimsmarttoday for supporting this episode. Check out swimsmarttoday.com for some great products. Use promo code GETOUTSWIM at checkout for a discount!

In this episode, I’m joined by Andrew Sheaff, a highly respected swim coach with over 15 years of experience coaching at the highest levels of the sport. Andrew has helped lead the University of Virginia to national titles, coached at several Division I programs, and has built a strong presence in the swim community through his educational content and consulting. He is also the author of A Constraints-Led Approach to Coaching, a book that explores how proper movement can lead to faster swimming. Andrew shares a wealth of free resources on his website and social media, offering deep insights into skill development, stroke technique, and set design. With a sharp eye for detail, he breaks down strokes, movement patterns, and training principles in a way that helps both swimmers and coaches reach the next level. In this conversation, we discuss his coaching philosophy, practical applications of the constraints-led approach, and how to foster technical excellence in every athlete. 🔗 Connect with Andrew: Website: https://www.coachandrewsheaff.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andrewksheaff/ Book: https://www.coachandrewsheaff.com/the-book

In this episode, I sit down with Abbie Fish, the founder and head coach of Swim Like A. Fish—a globally recognized platform helping athletes learn and train in the water. With more than 25 years of competitive swimming experience and 15+ years of elite coaching, Abbie has become one of the leading voices in stroke mechanics, video analysis, and swimmer education. A six-time U.S. Olympic Trials qualifier and proud University of Georgia Double Dawg, Abbie brings a wealth of experience and knowledge to the swimming community. Their coaching journey has led them to work with swimmers from all over the world—including over 140 Olympians and Paralympians from countries like the U.S., Brazil, Singapore, Mexico, Wales, and Australia. In this conversation, we dive into Abbie’s unique approach to technique, the challenges of building their own brand, the importance of maintaining strong internal motivation, and Abbie’s recent trip to Africa in partnership with World Aquatics. Follow the podcast: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thegetoutswim⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thegetoutswim⁠⁠

In this episode, I’m joined by Coronado Swim Team Elite (CSTE) Head Coach Sam Hoekstra. Appointed as head coach in August, Sam discusses his journey to CSTE — from elite athlete to accomplished coach — and what he learned along the way. He also shares insights from his viral “100 Days of 50s” race challenge, which captured attention across the swimming community. Before joining CSTE, Sam served as Associate Head Coach at The Race Club under Olympic legend Gary Hall Sr., where he worked closely with world-class swimmers focused on technical precision and peak performance. Since 2013, he’s led several successful programs across Michigan — including Byron Center High School, Byron Center Aquatics, and West Ottawa Swim Club — and has served as an Elite Clinician with the Fitter & Faster Swim Tour. As an athlete, Sam was an NCAA All-American at the University of Louisville and also competed for the University of Michigan, setting relay records and racing at the highest levels of collegiate swimming. Follow the podcast: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thegetoutswim⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thegetoutswim⁠⁠

In this episode, I sit down with Matthew Gearing, Head Coach of Catawba College Men’s and Women’s Swimming. Now entering his fourth season in 2025, Coach Gearing has led one of the fastest-rising programs in Division II swimming. Since taking over in 2022, he’s helped Catawba grow from one to sixteen NCAA qualifiers in just three seasons. During the 2024–25 season alone, his swimmers earned 34 All-American honors and shattered 75 school records. Both teams also captured the Team GPA Award for posting the highest GPA among all Division II programs — proving excellence extends far beyond the pool. Before joining Catawba, Gearing coached at Florida State University, where his swimmers broke eight school records and qualified five relay teams for nationals. He’s also held coaching roles at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, Indiana University, and Queens University of Charlotte, where he helped the Royals claim eight Division II National Championships. In our conversation, Matthew shares his unique perspective as someone who knew early on that he wanted to be a swim coach — and how learning from some of the best coaches and athletes in the world has shaped his approach to building a championship culture.