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89 episodes
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Date created
2023/10/27
Latest episode
2026/08/31
Average duration
42 min.
Release period
16 days
Description
The HC Leadership Podcast with Kyle and Kerry is where hard truths meet authentic leadership. Forged in fire and led with purpose, this show dives deep into the challenges leaders face—on the frontlines, in the workplace, and in everyday life. Through raw conversations, personal stories, and lessons learned in the heat of command, Kyle and Kerry cut past clichés to uncover what it really takes to lead with courage, humility, and conviction. This isn’t about perfect leaders—it’s about real ones. Whether you’re guiding a team, navigating crisis, or striving to grow in your own life, HC Leadership gives you the tools, mindset, and inspiration to lead yourself and others with authenticity and strength.
Podcast episodes
Check latest episodes from HC Leadership Podcast : Forged in Fire Led with Purpose podcast
Everyone Has a Thing: Leadership, Mental Health & Finding Purpose Beyond the Job W/ Eric Adolph
2026/08/31
Human-centered Leadership, it is this simple...Know your people. Know yourself. Create genuine safety. Take care of people before they break. And remember that a person's worth and purpose extend far beyond their job.
When the Plan Falls Apart: Leading Through the Unexpected
2026/08/24
In this episode of the HC Leadership Podcast, Kerry Henderson returns from an unexpected hiatus and shares the leadership lessons she's learned while navigating change, and uncertainty.
Kerry explores what it means to build teams that can keep moving when someone is gone, why leaders need to develop systems and succession plans, and the importance of giving people the freedom and grace to step into unfamiliar roles. She also challenges leaders to create environments where people feel safe bringing bad news, asking for help, or saying, "I need to step away."
At the heart of the conversation is a simple leadership mindset: everything is figure-out-able. Plans will change, people will need support, and unexpected challenges will happen. Great leaders don't panic or blame they stay calm, take ownership, pivot, and figure it out together.
Kerry also looks ahead to the next chapter of the podcast and invites listeners to recommend leaders, guests, and leadership topics they want to hear more about.
#leadership, #resilience, #teammanagement, #communication, #adaptability, #succession planning
Chapters
00:00Introduction and recent hiatus explanation
03:08The importance of backup plans and procedures
04:36The value of transparency and communication
06:26Allowing others to step in and lead
07:48The risks of being indispensable
09:08Handling personal and team crises with grace
10:35Ownership and calmness in leadership
12:04The mindset that everything is figure outable
13:30Supporting team members through challenges
14:19Seeking guest and listener input for future episodes
Stop Trying to Lead—Start Building a Team W/ Johnny Torgeson
2026/05/06
We talk about leadership nonstop—but most of us are missing the point.
In this episode, Dr. Johnny Torgeson cuts through the noise and explains why leadership alone won’t fix burnout, apathy, or broken culture. The answer isn’t more leadership tactics—it’s building real teams.
This conversation is raw, honest, and deeply practical. From the “you suck phase” to creating identity and accountability, we break down what actually works (and what doesn’t). If you’re tired of surface-level leadership talk and want something real—you’ll get it here.
Chapters
00:00Introduction and Guest Introduction
03:14The Importance of Data-Driven Leadership
06:10The Distinctiveness of Fire Service Leadership
08:51Building Teams in the Fire Service
11:46The Role of Relationships in Leadership
14:59Navigating Team Dynamics and Change Management
18:10Occupational Leadership Theory
20:54Practical Steps for New Leaders
24:06Establishing Non-Negotiables in Team Dynamics
36:15Establishing a Work Mindset
39:04The Role of Influence in Leadership
41:53Building Team Identity and Strengths
43:52Heating Up the Environment for Change
48:09Authenticity in Leadership
52:03Understanding Team Dynamics
55:57The Phases of Team Development
01:00:53Creating a Cohesive Team Environment
#leadership #fire service #team building #team dynamics #leadership development
You Don’t Know How You Make People Feel (But They Do)
2026/04/01
This episode explores the importance of self-awareness, authenticity, and feedback in leadership. Kerry and Kyle discuss how perceptions influence leadership effectiveness, the role of approachability, consistency, and vulnerability, and practical ways to gather honest feedback to improve relationships and influence.
Chapters
00:00 The Importance of Self-Reflection
03:10 Understanding Others' Perceptions
06:03 Navigating Leadership and Influence
08:47 The Role of Consistency and Approachability
11:54 Building Trust and Open Communication
14:58 The Impact of Intimidation in Leadership
17:54 Seeking Feedback for Growth
21:03 Understanding Relationships and Influence
23:54 Cues and Signals in Leadership
27:04 Final Thoughts on Leadership and Growth
#leadership, #self-awareness, #feedback, #authenticity, #approachability, #influence
Living Without Regrets: A Deep Reflection on Life and Leadership
2026/03/18
Summary
Join Kerry and Kyle as they explore the profound topic of regret, life choices, and the importance of living authentically. This episode encourages deep reflection on what truly matters and how to live a life without regrets.
Chapters
00:00 Exploring Regret and Life Choices
03:08 Gender Perspectives on Regret
06:03 The Balance of Family and Career
08:55 Fear and Taking Risks
12:01 Raising Resilient Children
15:04 The Importance of Hard Conversations
17:58 Defining Success and Life's Compass
20:47 The Role of Experiences in Shaping Regrets
23:55 Understanding Fear and Its Impact
28:12 Navigating Control and Logic in Decision Making
31:00 The Heart vs. The Mind: Finding Authenticity
34:34 Advice to Our Younger Selves: Embracing True Identity
37:30 Self-Love and Overcoming Self-Doubt
40:53 Regrets and Life Choices: A Reflection
47:52 Pondering Future Regrets: What Will You Change?
#regret, #lifechoices, #authenticity, #leadership, #personalgrowth, #self-awareness, #purpose, #fear, #courage
The Concept of Brotherhood as Action, Not Just Words W/ Samson "Mufasa" DeSessa
2026/03/13
Summary
In this engaging interview, Chief Samson 'Mufasa' DeSessa shares his authentic leadership journey, emphasizing the importance of culture, brotherhood, and actionable leadership principles in fire and emergency services. Discover practical insights on fostering a positive work environment, effective hiring, and promoting from within to build resilient teams.
Bio:
Samson “Mufasa” DeSessa is a combat Veteran. He has served in various roles over the last 34 years including; Protective Security Specialist for Private Military Contract organizations, Firefighter, Explosives Technician, and Designated Defensive Marksman. He is currently the Fire Chief at the Naval Air Station in Fort Worth. Samson is a public speaker and has been presenting for A&M’s Texas Engineering Extension Service (TEEX) since 2008. Sam recently self-published a book titled, Brotherhood is a VERB (Book).
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background of Chief DeSessa
06:10 The Concept of Brotherhood in Leadership
11:53 Work-Life Balance vs. Work-Life Blend
17:55 Accountability and Empathy in Leadership
24:06 Navigating Bad Cultures and Building Resilience
34:04 Master Reset: Changing Workplace Culture
40:36 Breaking Down Us vs. Them Mentality
45:11 Integrating New Generations into the Workforce
56:31 Innovative Promotion Processes and Leadership Development
#Leadership, #FireService, #Culture, #Brotherhood, #Podcast, #firefighter
The Power of Small Actions in Leadership with Flip Griffin
2026/03/04
In this episode, Flip Griffin shares his journey from Navy search and rescue to leadership coaching, emphasizing the importance of small, intentional actions in leadership. The conversation explores how to develop effective leaders across generations, the role of soft skills, and practical strategies for impactful leadership in high-stakes environments. In this engaging conversation, Flip Griffin shares insights on leadership, self-awareness, and team development, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, continuous growth, and intentional leadership practices. The discussion covers how leaders can foster trust, adapt to change, and build strong teams in dynamic environments.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Leadership Conversations
05:56 Redefining Leadership Impact
11:55 Generational Differences in Leadership
18:05 The Role of Influencers in Leadership
27:04 The Search for Relatable Leadership
32:14 Transitioning from Military to Civilian Leadership
39:10 Finding Purpose in Leadership
46:09 The Importance of Honest Feedback
55:55 Work-Life Balance in Modern Leadership
01:01:31 Self-Leadership and Personal Growth
01:07:46 Embracing Change and Innovation
resources
Website - https://firehousefreedom.com
#Leadership, #teamdevelopment, #Podcast, #firehousefreedom #USN, #USCG, #SAR, #EMS
Live from Virginia Fire Rescue Conference W/ Chief Kevin Duck
2026/02/27
Summary
In this interview, Chief Kevin Duck, newly elected president of the Virginia Fire Chiefs Association, shares insights on volunteer fire service, leadership, recruitment, and the importance of volunteer involvement in fire departments.
Volunteer fire service recruitment and retention strategiesLeadership and organizational management in fire departmentsThe role of volunteers in modern fire serviceChallenges faced by volunteer fire departments and solutions
#FireService, #Leadership, #VirginiaFireChiefsAssociation, #firefighter #Virginiafirerescueconference
Its Okay to not be Okay with Melanie Nichols
2026/02/25
Summary
In this episode, organizational psychologist Melanie Nichols shares insights on human behavior, emotional intelligence, and fostering positive culture within first responder organizations. The discussion covers toxic positivity, emotional awareness, generational differences, and practical strategies for leadership development.
Key topics
Toxic positivity and its impact on first respondersThe importance of emotional awareness and self-regulationGenerational differences in emotional expression and acceptanceStrategies for systemic and bottom-up change in organizationsThe role of authenticity and vulnerability in leadership
Chapters
00:00Introduction and Guest Introduction
04:54Understanding Toxic Positivity
10:02Generational Perspectives on Emotions
14:54Navigating Leadership Challenges
19:50The Ripple Effect of Leadership
24:54Breaking the Cycle of 'Should' Statements
25:35From Corporate to Consulting: A Journey of Change
30:00The Value of Internal Growth in Organizations
33:48Rethinking Policies: Values-Based Decision Making
38:58Understanding Human Behavior: The Role of Assessments
42:00Creating Ripples: The Impact of Small Changes
#leadership, #emotionalintelligence, #toxicpositivity, #firstresponders, #organizationalculture, #self-awareness, #resilience, #firefigher, #podcast
Live from the Virginia Fire Rescue Conference W/recruits Hayley Whitley & Timothy Jones
2026/02/24
Summary
This interview with Virginia Beach firefighters in recruit academy, Hayley Whitley & Timothy Jones, offers insights into the challenges of fire academy, leadership development, and the importance of mental and physical preparation for aspiring firefighters.
Takeaways
Physical readiness is crucial for fire academy success.Mental resilience and understanding your 'why' sustain firefighters through tough times.Leadership roles in training help develop essential skills.Teamwork and human dynamics are key to effective firefighting teams.
#firefighter, #fireacademy, #leadership, #mentalresilience, #VirginiaBeachFireDepartment, #Virginiafirerescueconference, #VFCA
Change Resistance W/Brian Brauer & Ryan Snow
2026/02/18
In this episode of the HC Leadership Podcast, Kyle, Kerry, Brian, and Ryan discuss the complexities of leadership and change within public safety organizations. They explore the challenges of ingrained routines, the psychology behind resistance to change, and the importance of emotional intelligence in leadership. The conversation emphasizes the need for strategic planning in implementing change and the significance of understanding human behavior to foster a culture of growth and adaptability. The speakers share personal experiences and insights on how to effectively navigate the intricacies of organizational culture and leadership dynamics.
Change is often met with resistance due to ingrained routines.
Understanding human behavior is crucial for effective leadership.
Emotional intelligence plays a key role in public safety leadership.
A strategic plan is essential for successful change implementation.
Recruiting for emotional intelligence can enhance organizational culture.
Comfort zones can hinder growth and adaptation.
Effective communication is vital in leadership roles.
Training should focus on skills that promote human understanding.
Cultural change requires a balance of preserving valuable traditions.
Change is a process that requires patience and understanding.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Leadership Challenges
02:09 Understanding Change Resistance in Organizations
05:54 Cultural Influences on Leadership
10:46 The Psychology of Routine and Change
16:12 Strategies for Effective Change Management
29:47 Breaking the Cycle of Tradition and Misery
33:55 Understanding Skills vs. Traits in Public Safety Training
36:40 The Importance of Emotional Intelligence in Crisis Situations
39:51 Shifting Mindsets in Public Safety Training
42:38 Challenges in Training and Competency in Public Safety
44:35 Recruitment Strategies and Organizational Values
48:47 Cultural Change and the Role of New Generations
51:05 Strategic Change Management in Public Safety Organizations
54:03 Balancing Change with Cultural Integrity
57:50 Navigating Dual Cultures in Public Safety
#leadership, #change management, #public safety, #organizational culture, #emotional intelligence, #fire service
Comfort: The Silent Growth Killer
2026/02/11
In this episode, Kerry and Kyle explore the concept of comfort as a barrier to personal growth and development. They discuss how comfort can feel safe and responsible but ultimately stifles growth. The conversation delves into the importance of embracing discomfort, the role of external motivation, and the necessity of teaching resilience to children. They emphasize the significance of values in decision-making and the ripple effect of personal growth on various aspects of life. The episode concludes with a challenge to listeners to take action and embrace discomfort in their own lives.
Comfort can feel safe but stifles growth.Embracing discomfort is essential for personal development.External motivation can help push us out of our comfort zones.Teaching children resilience is crucial for their future success.Values guide our decisions in uncomfortable situations.Personal growth positively impacts all areas of life.Inviting challenges leads to greater fulfillment than seeking validation.You must be willing to be bad at something to learn.Taking action is more important than waiting to feel ready.Struggles can lead to unexpected growth opportunities.
Chapters
00:00Introduction to Comfort and Growth
01:44The Dangers of Comfort
04:39Personal Growth Through Discomfort
07:20The Role of External Motivation
10:36Teaching Resilience to Children
13:40Navigating Discomfort in Learning
15:30Values and Decision Making
20:21The Ripple Effect of Personal Growth
25:05Inviting Challenges Over Validation
33:33Taking Action and Embracing Discomfort
#leadership #strengthinthestruggle #resilence #self-improvement #authenticity
Red, Green, or Blue What Type of Leader are You? W/ Matthew Caward
2026/02/04
In this episode, Chief Matthew Caward shares his extensive background in leadership across various fields, including the fire service, sports, and ministry. He discusses the RGB Leadership System, which categorizes individuals into three colors based on their attitudes and behaviors: red (negative), green (influential), and blue (positive). The conversation emphasizes the importance of family, personal struggles, and the role of trust and relationships in effective leadership. Kward's personal journey of overcoming challenges and the transformative power of leadership principles are highlighted throughout the discussion.
Leadership is about relationships and trust.Every individual can be a leader in some capacity.The RGB Leadership System categorizes people into three colors: red, green, and blue.Red individuals are negative and unaccountable, while blue individuals are positive and accountable.Trust is a process that takes time and effort to build.Personal struggles can lead to significant growth and resilience.Family support is crucial in overcoming personal challenges.Effective leadership requires self-awareness and accountability.The mindset of gratitude can transform attitudes in the workplace.Continuous improvement is essential for personal and organizational success.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Leadership and Diverse Experiences
07:37 The Importance of Family and Personal Struggles
10:14 The RGB Leadership System Explained
22:25 The Colors of Leadership: Red, Green, and Blue
37:41 The Power of Trust and Relationships in Leadership
leadership, RGB leadership, organizational culture, personal growth, trust, resilience, family, mentorship, self-awareness, fire service
Navigating Leadership W/ Frank Viscuso
2026/01/28
In this conversation, Frank Viscuso shares his journey in the fire service and his insights on leadership. He emphasizes the importance of learning from others' experiences rather than solely relying on personal experience. Viscuso discusses the challenges of leadership, the significance of communication, and the need for self-awareness and personal standards. He also highlights the passion of young firefighters and the impact of social media on their development. The conversation concludes with a call to action for redefining leadership development and the importance of hard conversations in fostering growth.
Experience is not the best teacher; other people's experience is.Control the controllables and focus on what you can change.Good communication is essential for effective leadership.Don't let negative environments change who you are.Self-awareness is crucial for personal and professional growth.Passion drives young firefighters to excel in their roles.Leadership development should be a continuous process.Social media can distract young firefighters from their goals.Hard conversations are necessary for growth and improvement.Creating the life you want requires intentional action.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Frank Viscuso
03:01 The Importance of Learning from Experience
05:51 Navigating Leadership Challenges
09:09 The Role of Communication in Leadership
11:55 Building Relationships in Leadership
15:04 The Impact of Environment on Leadership
17:57 Self-Awareness and Personal Standards
20:52 The Role of Passion in the Fire Service
24:03 Redefining Leadership Development
26:50 The Influence of Social Media on Young Firefighters
30:11 The Importance of Hard Conversations
33:02 Conclusion and Future Perspectives
Looking Back-TEEX Leadership Symposium 2026
2026/01/22
In this episode, Kerry and Kyle reflect on their experiences at the 2026 TEEX Leadership Symposium. They discuss the importance of teamwork, the support they received, and the engaging conversations they had with keynote speakers. The hosts share personal growth stories, highlight memorable moments, and emphasize the value of learning from others in leadership roles. They also touch on the significance of sharing experiences and insights with their audience, encouraging continued engagement and conversation.
Takeaways
The TEEX Leadership Symposium was a rewarding experience.Teamwork and support were crucial to the event's success.Engaging with keynote speakers provided valuable insights.Personal growth and mentorship were highlighted during the symposium.Memorable conversations left a lasting impact on the hosts.Leadership lessons can be learned from various industries.Sharing experiences helps others avoid mistakes.The importance of simple leadership principles was emphasized.Listeners are encouraged to engage and share their thoughts.Future episodes will continue the conversation with more guests.
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DonutOKBK 2023/10/31
Episode 1
Kyle and Kerry, great job on episode 1. This was my first ever podcast to listen to. Hard to believe this was your first to do because you sound like ...