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Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/installationartpodcast Listener poll, if you’d like to fill out or revise: https://forms.gle/r2EN8w9C7wisUxJe7 Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast Sign up to receive new episodes via email: https://installationartpodcast.com/subscribe A short catch-up episode after a break from podcasting over the European summer. I talk about chasing the balance between making this show, making my own work, and having a life. We will hear from you for a change, I share feedback from supporters, from the listener poll and play some listener voice messages. I also report back from the podcast-adjacent things I did manage while away: accidentally gatecrashing a private party at the TAKKK Art Center in Estonia to see Samuelle Green’s installation (the bird’s nest is still in it), skipping the Venice Biennale this year, and a run of Helsinki visits including Edith Karlson at Kiasma, Helsinki Contemporary, Amos Rex and HAM. Season four opening guest also announced! 00:00 Back From Summer Break 01:15 Supporters and Requests 03:05 Listener Poll Feedback 04:20 Your Voice Messages 08:17 TAKKK Art Center visit in Estonia 11:47 Helsinki Art Highlights 15:18 Season Four Teaser Also mentioned in this episode: Chiharu Shiota: https://www.chiharu-shiota.com/ Elizabeth Day in episode 20: https://installationartpodcast.com/elizabeth-day-020 Mike Hewson in episode 41: https://installationartpodcast.com/mike-hewson-041 Sydney Contemporary: https://sydneycontemporary.com.au/ Goldsmiths University: https://www.gold.ac.uk/ Terry Gross, host of Fresh Air: https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/ Guy Raz, host of How I Built This: https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this TAKKK Art Center: https://takkkdisain.wordpress.com/ Samuelle Green in episode 46: https://installationartpodcast.com/samuelle-green-046 Venice Biennale: https://www.labiennale.org/en Bonus episode about Venice Biennale drama: https://installationartpodcast.com/bonus-031 Edith Karlson in episode 17: https://installationartpodcast.com/edith-karlson-017 Kiasma: https://kiasma.fi/en/ Helsinki Contemporary: https://helsinkicontemporary.com/ Michael Johansson in episode 47: https://installationartpodcast.com/michael-johansson-047 Amos Rex: https://amosrex.fi/ Helsinki Art Museum (HAM): https://www.hamhelsinki.fi/ Bonus episode on art in Helsinki: https://installationartpodcast.com/bonus-039 Richard Wilson: https://www.richardwilsonsculptor.com/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast Michael Johansson is a Swedish installation artist based in Malmö, known for precisely assembled sculptures and installations made from ready-made objects that he describes as ‘real life Tetris’. His work has been shown across Europe, Asia and beyond, and ranges from ephemeral site-specific installations to large-scale permanent public commissions cast in bronze. What we cover: • The art school realisation: being technically skilled at drawing is not the same as knowing what kind of art you want to make • Sourcing from flea markets and secondhand stores • Institutional installations made entirely from objects borrowed from a museum's own back rooms and storage • Residencies for installation artists and the newer model he thinks would work much better • The Taiwan passport disaster: two days to install a large site-specific work and why it turned out almost too good to be true • Time as the greatest challenge: procrastinating until the last possible moment and forgetting to eat • Moving a whole city: why an entire Swedish town is being relocated and how his new project is linked 09:00 Growing Up and Early Making 10:42 Finding Artistic Direction 13:15 Into Installations and Public Art 15:37 First Breakthrough Opportunities 18:08 Ready-Made Process Rules 20:42 Sourcing and Colour Logic 36:32 Fabricators and Collaborations 40:00 Residencies Reality Check 43:59 Taipei Install Panic 46:52 Afterlife of Installations 53:37 Work Life Balance Reset 01:00:02 Hard Truths and Highlights 01:07:16 Advice and Dream Projects Michael Johansson is based in Malmö, Sweden. You can find out more about his work on his website: https://www.michaeljohansson.com/ and follow him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michaeljohansson/ Michael works with several international galleries: Aeroplastics in Belgium: https://www.aeroplastics.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/aeroplastics_gallery/ Helsinki Contemporary in Finland: https://helsinkicontemporary.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/helsinkicontemporary/ GSA Gallery in Sweden: https://gsa.se/ | https://www.instagram.com/gsagallerystockholm/ | @gsagallery1690 Galleri Arnstedt Östra Karup in Sweden: https://www.galleriarnstedt.se/ | https://www.instagram.com/galleriarnstedt/ Galerie Ramakers in the Netherlands: https://www.galerieramakers.nl/ | https://www.instagram.com/galerieramakers2 Galeria Enrique Guerrero in Mexico: https://www.galeriaenriqueguerrero.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/galeriaenriqueguerrero/ Massimo Carasi – The Flat: https://www.carasi.it/ | https://www.instagram.com/theflat_massimocarasi Galerie Hartwich in Germany: https://www.galerie-hartwich.de/ | https://www.instagram.com/galeriehartwich 44309//Gallery in Germany: https://44309gallery.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/44309gallery/ Galleri Christoffer Egelund in Denmark: https://christofferegelund.dk/ | https://www.instagram.com/gallerichristofferegelund/ Also mentioned in this episode: Club Mate: https://www.club-mate.de/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/clubmate_original/ Lego: https://www.lego.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/lego | @LEGO Airfix: https://uk.airfix.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/officialairfix/ | @OfficialAirfix Preview Berlin: https://www.previewberlin.de/ Skog Art Space: https://skogart.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/skogartspace/ Helsinki Contemporary: https://www.helsinkicontemporary.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/helsinkicontemporary/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large-scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

Samuelle Green grew up in rural Pennsylvania in a family of makers and studied art at Tyler School of Art in Philadelphia and Parsons in New York. After nearly 20 years in NYC working across galleries, museums, fabrication and film sets, she made a pivotal decision: leave the city to have the space to finally build the work she had always wanted to make. That work is large scale immersive installations built from rolled cones of reclaimed books and found paper. Exhibited across the US as well as in China, Italy, France and Estonia. Green’s work has also appeared on HBO and AMC+ and won the Arte Laguna Prize in Venice. What we cover: • The decision to leave New York City after nearly 20 years to reclaim her studio practice • What it takes to create immersive installations out of paper and what happens when huge panels of work go missing two weeks before a show • The accidental acoustic discovery: paper installations as anechoic chambers, concert venues and restaurant sound dampeners • Creating art for TV and film sets and what artists should know before saying yes • Reflective outdoor sculptures activated only by car headlights and flash photography and pivoting your medium after finding success Samuelle Green is based in rural Pennsylvania and represented by Ivy Brown Gallery in New York and Bonham Gallery in Arrowtown, New Zealand. Her work is also available through Holly Hunt Design showrooms across the US. You can see her reflective installation in person near Cochecton Fire Station at 54 County Road 114 in Cochecton, New York. Find out more about her work on her website: https://samuellegreen.com and follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samuellegreen 03:44 Growing Up Creative 05:58 Leaving New York 08:10 First Big Break 09:49 Crowdfunding the Installation 15:33 Paper Durability and Storage 16:54 Install Timeline and Logistics 20:42 Safety and Public Interaction 22:51 Overseas Exhibitions 31:21 Grant Funded Pivot To Public Art 34:34 TV Film Set Work 42:53 Studio Practice And Sketches 55:45 Sound And Silence Also mentioned in this episode: Tyler School of Art: https://tyler.temple.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/tyler_artandarchitecture/ Pearl Paint: https://www.pearlpaintco.com/ Parsons School of Design: https://www.newschool.edu/parsons/ | https://www.instagram.com/TheNewSchool/ | @thenewschool Hatch Fund: https://thehatchfund.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/hatchfund/ Rosco flame retardant: https://au.rosco.com/en/products/roscoflamex | https://www.instagram.com/rosco_labs/ | @rosco_labs TAKKK Symposium: https://www.takkksymposions.ee/en/sümpoosion | https://www.instagram.com/takkkkunstikeskus/ Holly Hunt Design: https://www.hollyhunt.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/hollyhuntdesign/ | @hollyhuntdesign Art on Paper New York: https://ny.thepaperfair.com/ Morris Museum: https://morrismuseum.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/morrismuseum/ | @morrismuseum131 Taizé: https://www.taize.fr/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/taize | @taize The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

I made a 3-minute listener survey to help shape the podcast's future. Your feedback genuinely matters. Fill out here: https://forms.gle/qqHJrMXpsC9UYu2m7 Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast Katriina Campitelli is a Toronto-based public art curator with Finnish and Italian roots who has spent over five years commissioning permanent and temporary public art across Canada. She started during the pandemic by creating a projection mapping festival when galleries shut down, and hasn't stopped since. This is a conversation from the other side of the public art table: what do public art curators actually do, what they are looking for and what many artists get wrong. Katriina's work spans permanent commissions to ephemeral festivals, sculpture gardens and community engagement programs. This episode is essential listening for any artist thinking about making the jump into public art. But it's equally fascinating for anyone who's ever walked past a sculpture and wondered how it got there. What we cover: • The percent-for-art funding model and why most permanent public art is tied to infrastructure budgets • What a public art curator actually does start to finish • Why the only way to learn public art is to make public art and why that's a genuine problem given that public art cannot fail • The Drunk Frat Boy test: what your work needs before it can be installed in a public space • The giant chrome cow that led to two years of community backlash • Why Maurizio Cattelan's middle finger outside the Milan stock exchange became a permanent installation • What selection panelists notice (and remember) about artists and why being kind is a strategic career choice • Why public art matters beyond aesthetics: as a tool for economic development, wayfinding, community belonging and joy 05:40 Growing Up Between Cultures 07:20 Master's in Italy 10:23 What a Public Art Curator Does 17:19 Finding Artists 19:16 How to Start in Public Art 30:00 Community Buy-In and Cautionary Tales 37:14 Temporary vs Permanent Public Art 38:24 Design Longevity Rules 47:30 Community Engagement Wins 57:36 Advice for Applicants 01:03:46 Career Highlights Katriina Campitelli is based in Toronto, Canada. Find out more about Katriina’s work on her website https://katcampitelli.ca/ and follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katcampitelli/ Also mentioned in this episode: JR: https://www.jr-art.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/jr/ Percent For Public Art: https://www.toronto.ca/city-government/planning-development/official-plan-guidelines/design-guidelines/percent-for-public-art-inventory/ Ron Baird: https://ronbairdartist.com/ National Film Board of Canada: https://www.nfb.ca/ | https://www.instagram.com/onf_nfb/ | @nfb Maurizio Cattelan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurizio_Cattelan | https://www.instagram.com/mauriziocattelan/ Francesco Perilli: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Perilli_(artista) Joel Sears: https://joelsears.com/about-joel/ Alex Seton episode: https://installationartpodcast.com/alex-seton-024 The High Line: https://www.thehighline.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/highlinenyc Fourth Plinth: https://www.london.gov.uk/programmes-strategies/arts-and-culture/current-culture-projects/fourth-plinth-trafalgar-square Anish Kapoor: https://anishkapoor.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/dirty_corner Claes Oldenburg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claes_Oldenburg Myfanwy MacLeod: https://www.myfanwymacleod.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/mittens_macleod_again/ Pasi Rauhala: https://pasirauhala.fi/ | https://www.instagram.com/pasirauhala/ Korkeasaari Zoo: https://korkeasaari.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/korkeasaari/ | @Korkeasaareneläintarha Amos Rex Museum: https://amosrex.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/amoskonst/ Toronto Sculpture Garden: https://www.toronto.ca/explore-enjoy/history-art-culture/public-art/public-art-monuments-collection/comp-sculpture-garden/ National Gallery of Canada: https://www.gallery.ca/ | https://www.instagram.com/NatGalleryCan/ | @ngcmedia The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

I made a 3-minute listener survey to help shape the podcast's future. Your feedback genuinely matters. Fill out here: https://forms.gle/qqHJrMXpsC9UYu2m7 Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast Aaron T Stephan is a sculptor and public artist who is so interested in process and materials, he builds and installs nearly every project himself. His permanent installations can be found all over the USA and he has also created numberous gallery installations and performative events. His work has been acquired by institutions like Portland Museum of Art, John Michael Kohler Arts Center and Farnsworth Art Museum. This conversation is candid, funny and full of hard-won insight. Aaron grew up on a self-sustaining hippie farm in rural Maine where self reliance, making and fixing things was expected. That relationship with objects, materials and technique has never left him and sits at the core of everything he makes. What we cover: • Proposing projects you have no idea how to execute and teaching yourself new fabrication techniques on the fly • Performative works where he builds structures around audiences mid-dinner or installs work as a live performance on-site • Navigating job sites where artists have essentially no power and the only leverage you have is that they want you to leave • What it actually takes to work at public scale and establishing a practice that lets you fail before you're locked in • Why the projects that nearly break you are always the best ones • Advice to artists who are intrigued by public art Aaron T Stephan lives and works in Portland, Maine. You can see his permanent installations across the US, for example Woven Lines at City of Altoona, IA, Paths Rising at Tampa International Airport, Point of View at Salt Palace Convention Center, Salt Lake City and more. More information on his website: https://aarontstephan.com and his Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aarontstephan/ Watch Aaron’s TED talk performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=697QUP6iYw8 05:23 Childhood And Making 08:14 Art School And Wandering 09:46 How He Got Into Big Installations 11:12 Guardrail Knot Story 13:35 Torture And Magic 18:01 Building It Yourself 19:45 Funding Realities 24:48 Building Site Chaos 29:30 Hiring An Actor To Play Him At Openings 33:57 Public Art Hard Truths 38:59 Concrete Block Vortex Idea 47:13 Advice To Artists Also mentioned in this episode: Tampa International Airport: https://www.tampaairport.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/flyTPA | @FlyTPA San Diego International Airport: https://www.san.org | https://www.instagram.com/sandiegoairport/ Texas Tech University: https://www.ttu.edu | https://www.instagram.com/texastech/ La Croix: https://www.lacroixwater.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/lacroixwater/ The Art Angle: https://news.artnet.com/multimedia/the-art-angle | https://www.instagram.com/artnet | @artnet Purchase College: https://www.purchase.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/purchasecollege/ | @PurchaseCollege SUNY New Paltz: https://www.newpaltz.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/sunynewpaltz | @sunynewpaltz TEDxDirigo: https://www.tedxdirigo.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/tedxdirigo/ https://www.ted.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/ted | @TED Maurizio Cattelan: https://www.perrotin.com/en/artists/maurizio-cattelan | https://www.instagram.com/mauriziocattelan/ Sears, Roebuck & Co: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears Matthew Mazzotta: https://www.matthewmazzotta.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/matthewmazzotta/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

I made a 3-minute listener survey to help shape the podcast's future. Your feedback genuinely matters. Fill out here: https://forms.gle/qqHJrMXpsC9UYu2m7 Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/installationartpodcast Donna Dennis is one of the contemporary art pioneers who pushed sculpture toward the domain of architecture in the early 1970s. Her complex sculptural installations draw from overlooked fragments of American vernacular architecture. This conversation dives into five decades of art-making in New York's evolving art world. We discuss how she taught herself carpentry, pipe bending and electrical work to build pieces based on her body's scale. How Virginia Woolf's "Shakespeare's sister" gave her the drive to make work even if no one ever saw it. How feminism shaped her False Front Hotels as self-portraits when she decided "women's lives were worthy of study." And why she refuses to use the word "practice" to describe her work. Donna's work is held in collections including Brooklyn Museum, the Walker Art Center, and the Smithsonian American Art Museum. Key moments from this episode: • From failing at abstract painting in Paris to her first steps toward installation • SoHo in the 1970s: how big raw loft spaces made it possible for artists to think big The Holly Solomon Gallery story: from studio visit ("we're buying a country house") to "I'm starting a gallery and I want you to be in it"—then Whitney Biennial within two years Venice Biennale 1982: realizing in April the show is in June, not 1984—quit your job, six assistants, work doubling in size • A car roll into the river in slow motion, with Donna’s belongings inside – and how that inspired a public artwork that also suffered a tragic end • ”A woman made this!?" The comment that captures why size mattered Donna Dennis is based in Germantown, New York. You can learn more about her work and subscribe to her newsletter on her website: https://www.donnadennisart.com And follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/donnadennisstudio 03:00 Hudson Valley Roots 04:07 Rapid Fire Warmup 05:06 Virginia Woolf Feminist Purpose 07:28 Night Studio Rituals 09:40 Early Art Calling 12:36 From Painting to Installations 47:28 Storage Risks 49:58 Hidden Vistas 51:19 Meaning And Mystery 54:34 Audience Boundaries 57:09 Vandalism Tale 01:04:01 Funding Choices and Final Reflections Books mentioned: Writing Toward Dawn: Journals 1969-1982: https://www.donnadennisart.com/publications/writing-toward-dawn Donna Dennis: A Poet in Three Dimensions: https://www.donnadennisart.com/publications/donna-dennis-poet-in-three-dimensions Also mentioned in this episode: Petah Coyne: https://www.petahcoyne.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/petahcoyne/ Episode with Petah Coyne: https://installationartpodcast.com/petah-coyne-032 Robert Fulton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fulton Virginia Woolf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Room_of_One's_Own Gustave Doré: https://www.wikiart.org/en/gustave-dore Ben Shahn “The Shape of Content”: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/284780.The_Shape_of_Content Art Students League: https://www.artstudentsleague.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/aslnyc/ | @ArtStudentsLeagueNY Martha Diamond: https://marthadiamondtrust.org/ | Carleton College: https://www.carleton.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/carletoncollege | @CarletonCollege Claes Oldenburg: https://www.wikiart.org/en/claes-oldenburg Jane Bowles “Two Serious Ladies”: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/215262.Two_Serious_Ladies Deafman Glance by Robert Wilson: https://robertwilson.com/deafman-glance History of Art by Horst Waldemar Janson: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/2693801-history-of-art Peter Schjeldahl: https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/peter-schjeldahl The New Yorker: https://www.newyorker.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/newyorkermag/ | @newyorker The Poetry Project: https://www.poetryproject.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/poetry_project | @ThePoetryProject Holly Solomon: https://bonhams.shorthandstories.com/the-collection-of-holly-solomon/ Andy Warhol: https://www.wikiart.org/en/andy-warhol Denise Green: https://www.denisegreen.net/ | Judy Pfaff: https://www.judypfaffstudio.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/judy.pfaff/ Whitney Biennial: https://whitney.org/exhibitions/the-biennial | https://www.instagram.com/whitneymuseum/ | @whitney_museum Venice Biennale: https://www.labiennale.org/en | https://www.instagram.com/labiennale/ | @BiennaleChannel O’Flaherty’s: https://www.donnadennisart.com/exhibitions/houses-and-hotels | https://www.instagram.com/oflahertys.nyc/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art...

I made a 3-minute listener survey to help shape the podcast's future. Your feedback genuinely matters. Fill out here: https://forms.gle/qqHJrMXpsC9UYu2m7 Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast A candid review of the 25th Biennale of Sydney, spanning five venues across Greater Sydney: from a regional gallery that got everything right to an old Power Station full of missed opportunities. I spent 10 hours at the media preview visiting all five venues: Lewers Penrith Regional Gallery, Chau Chak Wing Museum, Campbelltown Arts Centre, Art Gallery of New South Wales and White Bay Power Station. This isn't a comprehensive report, it’s my personal takeaway on what works (and what fails) when it comes to installation art at an international exhibition. The 25th Biennale of Sydney, titled Rememory and curated by Hoor Al-Qasimi, demonstrates something that's come up again and again on this podcast: you can have prestigious artists, important topics and historic venues, but if the lighting is wrong, if there's nowhere to sit, if the space outshines the art… it doesn't work. What I cover: • Why Lewers: Penrith Regional Gallery was the standout venue • Some highlighted works from each venue • The 11-minute sound installation no one experiences beyond 15 seconds – and other accessibility challenges • Documentation vs art – where is the line? • A moment of comparison: do island Biennales create better experiences? 00:32 Biennale of Sydney Facts 02:57 Penrith Gallery Highlight 05:32 Everyone’s Favorite Installation 08:06 Chau Chak Wing Museum 10:31 Campbelltown Art Centre - Documentary Debate 13:21 Art Gallery of NSW Picks 17:12 White Bay Venue Challenges 22:26 Video Overload Critique 26:32 Installation Missteps 32:48 Final Takeaways Biennale of Sydney 2026: Rememory is on view until 14 June 2026, free entry More info: https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/ Review by art critic Christopher Allen: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/culture/worse-than-anticipated-how-the-sydney-biennale-became-a-site-of-mediocrity-and-irrelevance/news-story/efd37fe54c91806748fd89fda76f65f6 Also mentioned in this episode: Biennale of Sydney: https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/ | https://www.instagram.com/biennalesydney/ | @biennaleofsydney Venice Biennale episode: https://installationartpodcast.com/bonus-013 Helsinki Biennial episode: https://installationartpodcast.com/bonus-039 Lewers: Pentrith Regional Art Gallery: https://www.penrithregionalgallery.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/penrithregionalgallery/ Nora Adwan: https://noraadwan.com/home.html | https://www.instagram.com/adwan.nora/ Chau Chak Wing Museum: https://www.sydney.edu.au/museum/ | https://www.instagram.com/ccwm_sydney/ Michael Dagostino: https://www.sydney.edu.au/museum/about-us/our-people.html Ema Shin: https://emashin.org/home.html | https://www.instagram.com/ema.shin/ Tuan Andrew Nguyen: https://www.tuanandrewnguyen.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/tuan.andrew.nguyen/ Cambelltown Arts Centre: https://www.campbelltownartscentre.com.au/Home | https://www.instagram.com/campbelltownartscentre/ | @campbelltownartscentre8258 Hoor Al-Qasimi: https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/hoor-al-qasimi/ | https://www.instagram.com/hooralq/ Joana Hadjithomas & Khalil Joreige: https://hadjithomasjoreige.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/studiohadjithomasjoreige/ Art Gallery of NSW: https://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/ Kuba Dorabialski: https://www.kubadorabialski.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/kubadora/ Mia Wasikowska: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1985859/ | https://www.instagram.com/mia_wasikowska_/ Taysir Batniji: https://www.taysirbatniji.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/taysir_batniji/ Kapwani Kiwanga: https://www.kapwanikiwanga.org/ Ron Mueck: https://ropac.net/artists/63-ron-mueck/ | https://www.instagram.com/ronmueckart/ Mike Hewson: https://mikehewson.co.nz/ | https://www.instagram.com/mikehewson/ MCA: https://www.mca.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/mca_australia | @mcaaustralia White Bay Power Station: https://www.whitebaypowerstation.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/whitebaypowerstation/ Christopher Allen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Allen_(critic) Cockatoo Island: https://www.cockatooisland.gov.au/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/harbourtrust/ | @HarbourTrust2088 Frank Sweeney: https://franksweeney.art/ | https://www.instagram.com/frankbeee/ Hui Ye: https://yehui.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/huiyeist/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host...

Listener feedback form: https://forms.gle/T6ywdFawXWKLu1UR6 Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast A conversation with New Zealand artist Mike Hewson, recorded inside his monumental installation The Key's Under the Mat at the Art Gallery of New South Wales – a 2,500 square meter underground park complete with working sauna, laundromat, barbecues, DJ booth, recording studio and playground that's broken every visitor record the gallery has ever seen. Mike's practice straddles the complex lines between art, infrastructure and public liability. He designs playgrounds that councils don't know how to regulate, builds permanent public sculptures that must survive Australian weather conditions and human interference and he takes on legal exposure that would terrify most artists, all while fighting the perception that making functional, interactive work is somehow "beneath" serious art. Key insights from this episode: • The Christchurch earthquake moment: barefoot in a broken city, wondering whether he should keep pursuing art • Project backlash: dealing with public anger, going into debt on his first major commission and lessons learned • Strategic pivot: setting a new precedent as an artist-engineer • True scope of the AGNSW project and how he sourced materials for it • Hard truth and advice: burnout is not a sustainable business model Mike Hewson is a New Zealand artist based in Sydney. You can find out more about his work on his website https://mikehewson.co.nz/ and follow him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikehewson See his work in person: The Key's Under the Mat at AGNSW Tank (open until August 2026) https://mikehewson.co.nz/2025/10/the-keys-under-the-mat Coal Loader Palm Grove is a permanent public installation at Sydney Fish Markets: https://mikehewson.co.nz/2026/1/coal-loader-palm-grove Rocks on Wheels public art playground in Soutbank, Naarm (Melbourne): https://mikehewson.co.nz/2022/11/rocks-on-wheels Pockets Park in Pioneers Memorial Park, Leichhardt NSW: https://mikehewson.co.nz/2022/2/pockets-park St Peters Fences at Simpson Park, St Peters NSW: https://mikehewson.co.nz/2020/9/st-peters-fences Illawarra Placed Landscape at Crown Street Mall, Wollongong NSW: https://mikehewson.co.nz/2017/11/illawarra-placed-landscape 02:55 Work Life Balance Reality 05:35 Growing Up in Rural NZ 08:02 From Painting to Installations 19:40 Building Playgrounds as Art 27:37 Precarious Look Safe Design 32:32 Sourcing Found Materials 40:33 Maintenance and Record Crowds 45:41 Afterlife and Financial Reality 58:51 Geopets Art Fair Hack 01:07:17 Contracts, Insurance and Codes 01:20:51 Hard Truths And Advice 01:25:51 After The Mammoth Show Also mentioned in this episode: Christchurch earthquake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Christchurch_earthquake JR: https://www.jr-art.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/jr/ Columbia University: https://www.columbia.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/columbia/ | @columbia Sarah Sze: https://www.sarahsze.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sarahszestudio Lloyd’s: https://www.lloyds.com/australia | https://www.instagram.com/lloydsoflondon/ | @Lloydsinsurance Infrastructure NSW: https://www.infrastructure.nsw.gov.au/ | Gumtree: https://www.gumtree.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/gumtreeaus | @gumtreeaustralia Lett Thomas Gallery: https://lett-thomas.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/michaellett | https://www.instagram.com/lettthomasgallery Rirkrit Tiravanija: https://www.davidzwirner.com/artists/rirkrit-tiravanija | https://www.instagram.com/rirkrit_team Sydney Fish Market: https://www.sydneyfishmarket.com.au/ Images courtesy of the artist and Art Gallery of NSW The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

I made a 3-minute listener survey to help shape the podcast's future. What's working? What's not? Who should I interview next? Your feedback genuinely matters. Fill out here: https://forms.gle/qqHJrMXpsC9UYu2m7 Get 15% off your .art domain name: https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M A conversation with Dutch artist Tanja Smeets, whose site-specific installations employ diverse and industrial materials (concrete spacers, leaf catchers, textiles, ceramics and 3D-printed steel) to create large scale works that appear to grow organically from architecture and cityscapes. Guided by her catchphrase “Under the pavement the roots are whirling,” Tanja's practice reveals what it takes to work at the intersection of art, craft, technology and collaboration. Key insights from this episode: • Why art school felt like failure • Finding and transforming unusual materials • Residencies at TextielLab and European Ceramic Work Center: pushing porcelain through frying sieves, learning embroidery and more • The volcano eruption: teaching an assistant to knot lentils into lycra via Zoom when flights were grounded • Miami airport interrogation: five suitcases, a letter and threatening border patrol agents with a lecture on art Tanja Smeets is a Dutch artist based in Utrecht. Her work has been exhibited internationally including Manifesta and Museum Boijmans van Beuningen. See her work in person at Westerpark, Amsterdam (permanent public sculpture) and Centraal Museum, Utrecht (permanent installation in historic staircase). 03:24 Favorite Quote – Under the Pavement the Roots Are Whirling 09:35 The Iceland Trip That Changed Everything 15:49 From Painting to Installation – When Everything Clicked 20:10 A Government Building Commission – Dripping Through Multiple Floors 22:50 How the Opportunities Started Coming 29:24 TextielLab – Combining Felt with Leaf Catchers 33:09 European Ceramic Work Center Residency 47:47 When the White Cube Doesn’t Work 48:52 Manifesta Barcelona – Installing on 5th-Century Graves 51:17 Building Solo vs Working with Teams 56:33 The Commercial Question – “I’m Always Disappearing into Big Installations” 01:02:10 Miami Airport – Five Suitcases and the Threat of a Lecture 01:06:56 MX3D Collaboration – 3D-Printed Stainless Steel 01:11:43 Finding Technical Collaborators and Pushing Boundaries 01:17:09 Dream Project 01:20:00 Advice for Emerging Artists Opening of solo exhibition and launch of new publication and film about Tanja’s work: 11 April 2026 at the Utrecht in Leeuwarden. The book can be ordered via [email protected] You can find out more about her work at https://www.tanjasmeets.nl/ and follow her on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/studiotanjasmeets/ Also mentioned in this episode: Dyckman Farmhouse Museum: https://dyckmanfarmhouse.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/dyckmanfarmhouse | @dyckmanfarmhousemuseum8502 Museum Boijmans van Beuningen: https://www.boijmans.nl/en | https://www.instagram.com/boijmans/ TextielMuseum: https://textielmuseum.nl/en | https://www.instagram.com/textielmuseum/ TextielLab: https://textiellab.nl/en European Ceramic Work Centre: https://ekwc.nl/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/ekwc_oisterwijk/ @sundaymorningekwc6951 David Lynch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lynch Eraserhead: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074486/ Blue Velvet: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090756/ Kunsthal KAdE: https://www.kunsthalkade.nl/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/kunsthal_kade_amersfoort | https://www.youtube.com/user/KUNSTHALKADE Manifesta: https://manifesta.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/manifestabiennial/ | @Manifesta_foundation Mondriaan Fund: https://www.mondriaanfonds.nl/en/homepage-2/ | https://www.instagram.com/mondriaanfonds/ Museum of Arts And Design: https://madmuseum.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/madmuseum | @madmuseum Museum Vizcaya: https://vizcaya.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/vizcaya_museum/ | @VizcayaMuseum Westerpark: https://www.iamsterdam.com/en/explore/neighbourhoods/westerpark | https://www.instagram.com/iamsterdam MX3D: https://mx3d.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/mx3d.metal.printing/ | @officialMX3D Centraal Museum Utrecht: https://www.centraalmuseum.nl/en | https://www.instagram.com/centraalmuseum The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ Mentioned in this episode: Get your .art domain name https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M

Take the listener survey: https://forms.gle/r2EN8w9C7wisUxJe7 Help shape the future of the podcast! Your feedback matters. A bonus solo episode about my last minute art trip to Helsinki: what I saw at Helsinki Biennale on Vallisaari island, three must-visit museums (Kiasma, Amos Rex, HAM), and why sometimes the best art experiences require a little effort to reach. Last August, I hopped a ferry from Estonia to catch the closing days of Helsinki Biennale. In a day and a half, I discovered why island biennales create magic, why Nordic countries do art infrastructure better and what Australia can learn from Finland's approach to supporting artists and making contemporary art accessible to everyone. This isn't a comprehensive review, it’s my honest impressions, favorite discoveries and a few rants. What I cover in this episode: • Why the ferry journey to Vallisaari island matters (hello, Cockatoo Island nostalgia) • The challenge of installing art outdoors: scale, setting and competing with historic buildings • Standout works: Sara Bjärland's bronze "inflatable" sculptures, Tania Candiani's immersive bunker installation, Ana Teresa Barboza's woven bark forest • Three essential Helsinki museums: Kiasma (timeless favorite), Amos Rex (new obsession), HAM (Biennale HQ) • Gushing about Helsinki Central Library (Oodi): free recording studios, 3D printing, instrument hire – everything Sydney libraries lack… • Free museum days and artist benefits: how my Australian NAVA card got me free entry in Finland (but not in Sydney... explain that) 00:00 Why I Went To Helsinki Biennale 01:20 Getting to Vallisaari 03:31 Island Setting and Challenges 07:06 Scent Art Surprise 08:46 Standout Works 13:14 Lesson About Rushing 15:28 Rainy Day Museum Crawl: Kiasma 16:32 Amos Rex and HAM 21:44 Finland Artist Perks 23:37 Wrap Up and Listener Poll Resources: Listener survey - help shape this podcast! https://forms.gle/r2EN8w9C7wisUxJe7 Send a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast Write an email: https://installationartpodcast.com/contact Also mentioned in this episode: Helsinki Biennale: https://helsinkibiennaali.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/helsinkibiennial/ Vallisaari: https://vallisaari.fi/en_US | https://www.instagram.com/vallisaari.fi Biennale of Sydney: https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/ | https://www.instagram.com/biennalesydney/ | @biennaleofsydney Cockatoo Island: https://www.cockatooisland.gov.au/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/harbourtrust/ | @HarbourTrust2088 Olafur Eliasson: https://olafureliasson.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/studioolafureliasson/ Raimo Saarinen: https://www.raimosaarinen.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/raimosaarinen/ Sara Bjarland: https://sarabjarland.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sbjarland/ Tania Candiani: https://taniacandiani.com/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/tcandiani/ Ana Teresa Barboza: https://www.anateresabarboza.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/anateresa.barbozagubo/ Nabbteeri: https://www.nabbteeri.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/maria_birkhuhn/ | https://www.instagram.com/nabbage/ Kiasma: https://kiasma.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/kiasmamuseum Amos Rex: https://amosrex.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/amoskonst/ Anna Estarriola: https://www.annaestarriola.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/annaestarriola/ HAM: https://www.hamhelsinki.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/hamhelsinki/ Oodi: https://oodihelsinki.fi/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/oodihelsinki/ NAVA: https://visualarts.net.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/nava_visualarts/

Get up to 40% off your Hostinger plan: https://hostinger.com?REFERRALCODE=INSTALLATIONART A philosophical conversation with Berlin-based artist Monika Grzymala, whose spatial drawings transform architecture with nothing but kilometers of black tape, intuition and intense physical labor. Monika's practice is deceptively simple: she works alone, without assistants, using adhesive tape to create immersive three-dimensional drawings that respond to each unique space. But beneath that simplicity we discuss profound questions about ephemerality, energy, presence and what remains when a work only exists for weeks before disappearing… From training as a stone sculptor to making her first site-specific drawing on ice at a Hamburg skating rink, from dumping all her figurative work after one transformative conversation with her professor to developing custom tape formulas with German manufacturers—Monika's journey reveals how radical simplicity can be the most powerful artistic choice. Key insights from this episode: • How one professor's comment changed everything • The longevity of tape installations: 2-3 months before they fall apart (and why that's intentional) • Documentation philosophy: why time-lapse videos don't capture the real process • Living inside an installation: the collector who surrounded herself with Monika's work • Advice for emerging artists: you don't need funding or large studios—just do it Monika Grzymala is a Polish artist based in Berlin. You can find out more about her work on her website: http://www.t-r-a-n-s-i-t.net/ and follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/monika.grzymala/ Monika’s publications: https://www.betterworldbooks.com/search/results?q=monika grzymala She is represented by Galerie CRONE: https://www.galeriecrone.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/galerie_crone/ BERG Contemporary: https://www.bergcontemporary.is/en | https://www.instagram.com/bergcontemporary/ SECCI Gallery: https://www.seccigallery.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/secci_gallery/ 03:20 Studio Rituals 03:48 Berlin Life And Process 05:44 Origins And Training 08:01 Finding The Line 13:25 Ephemeral Tape Philosophy 31:24 Hunting For The Perfect Tape 32:21 Liquid Drawing Mindset 36:14 Funding Ephemeral Installations 38:06 Energy, Memory And Reality 41:31 Logistics And Documentation 56:15 Advice For Young Artists Also mentioned in this episode: MoMA: https://www.moma.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/themuseumofmodernart | @themuseumofmodernart The Drawing Center: https://drawingcenter.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/drawingcenter/ Biennale of Sydney: https://www.biennaleofsydney.art/ | https://www.instagram.com/biennalesydney/ | @biennaleofsydney Tokyo Art Museum: https://www.tobikan.jp/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/tokyometropolitanartmuseum/ | @tokyometropolitanartmuseum7280 Louise Bourgeois: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Bourgeois | https://www.instagram.com/artistelouisebourgeois/ Documenta: https://documenta.de/en | https://www.instagram.com/documenta_official | @documenta_official Bogomir Ecker: https://www.artforum.com/events/bogomir-ecker-2-226647/ Olafur Eliasson: https://olafureliasson.net/ | https://www.instagram.com/studioolafureliasson/ Dian Woodner: https://patronview.com/patrons/dian-woodner Frac Lorraine: https://www.fraclorraine.org/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/fraclorraine/ | @49nord6est-fraclorraine Kunstlerhaus Dortmund: https://www.kh-do.de/ | https://www.instagram.com/kuenstlerinnenhaus_dortmund | @kunstlerhausdortmund2577 Kunstmuseum Basel: https://kunstmuseumbasel.ch/ | https://www.instagram.com/kunstmuseumbasel/ | @kumubasel The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

Get 15% off your .art domain name: https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M Get Carrie's Artist Inventory Template here: https://www.seen.art/store/p/artist-inventory-template A refreshingly candid conversation with Carrie Scott: curator, art consultant, broadcaster and founder of Seen, a media platform connecting the art world to the real world. This is our most unfiltered episode yet, where we tackle topics that might "get us in trouble": what consultants actually charge, why artists should have elevator pitches (despite what famous curators say), whether museums should pay artists a percentage of ticket sales, and how galleries claim they'll "find you" while rejecting all submissions. Carrie's career spans working with major galleries in Seattle and New York, collaborating with Nick Knight for a decade, launching groundbreaking exhibitions and now building a consultancy that refuses to be motivated purely by commission. She is opinionated, pragmatic and genuinely invested in making the art world less intimidating and more transparent. Key insights from this episode: • The real numbers: what art consultants charge • Why Carrie is building an art consultancy that is not centered around transaction • The controversial debate: should artists have an elevator pitch? • What galleries mean when they say "don't contact us" (and should you ignore it)? • Creative health as the third pillar of wellness alongside physical and mental health • Practical advice for ambitious artists and where to find helpful resources Carrie Scott is a curator, art historian, consultant and broadcaster based in London. She is the founder of Seen, a media platform and consultancy dedicated to connecting the art world to the real world. You can find out more about her work at https://www.seen.art/ and follow her on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/carriescottcurates/ 00:34 Carrie's Favorite Quote 03:34 Background and Early Life 07:13 Journey into Art and Education 09:58 First Job and Early Career Challenges 21:26 Transition to Consulting and Launching Her Own Business 40:24 The Value of Installation Art 43:48 Challenges in Monetizing Installation Art 45:35 Artist-Museum Revenue Sharing 52:05 Curating and Supporting Artists 56:26 Advice for Emerging Artists 01:09:45 Dream Projects and Future Plans Also mentioned in this episode: Brothers And Keepers by John Edgar Wideman: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50891912-brothers-and-keepers Overherd oat milk: https://overherd.uk/ | https://www.instagram.com/overherd.uk The Wallace Collection: https://www.wallacecollection.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/wallacemuseum | @TheWallacecollection Jean-Honoré Fragonard: https://www.wikiart.org/en/jean-honore-fragonard Dickinson College: https://www.dickinson.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/dickinsoncollege | @dsoncollege Conde Nast: https://www.condenast.com/ University of Washington: https://www.washington.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/uofwa/ | @universityofwashington Seattle Magazine: https://seattlemag.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/seattlemag/ The Seattle Times: https://www.seattletimes.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/seattletimes/ Seattle University: https://www.seattleu.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/seattleu/ | @seattleuniversity The Stranger: https://www.thestranger.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/thestrangerseattle/ James Harris: https://jamesharrisgallery.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/jamesharrisgallery/ Rashid Johnson: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/2830-rashid-johnson/ | https://www.instagram.com/rashidjohnson/ Nicole Klagsburn: https://www.nicoleklagsbrun.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/nicole_klagsbrun_inc/ Matt Day Jackson: https://www.hauserwirth.com/viewing-room/matthew-day-jackson/ https://www.instagram.com/matthewdayjackson/ Mika Rottenberg: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/23390-mika-rottenberg/ | https://www.instagram.com/mikarottenberg/ Jimmy Moffat: https://www.instagram.com/jimmymoff/ Art + Commerce: https://artandcommerce.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/artandcommerce/ Annie Leibovitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Leibovitz | https://www.instagram.com/annieleibovitz/ Steven Meisel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Meisel | https://www.instagram.com/stevenmeiselofficial/ Nick Knight: https://www.nickknight.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/nick_knight/ 180 Studios: https://www.180studios.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/180.studios/ The Art Show on Sky Arts: https://www.carrie-scott.com/theartshoq | https://www.instagram.com/artshowtv/ | @theartshow791 Simonette Quamina: https://www.simonettequamina.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/simonette_quamina/ John Pawson: a href="https://www.johnpawson.com/" rel="noopener...

Get 15% off your .art domain name: https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M Try Hostinger: https://hostinger.com?REFERRALCODE=INSTALLATIONART An extraordinary conversation with Nicolas de Oliveira and Nicola Oxley, the writer-curator duo who literally wrote the books on installation art and founded the Museum of Installation in London. For nearly 40 years, they've been chroniclers, producers, curators, and advocates for a medium that barely had a name when they first started. From publishing the definitive Installation Art books (1994, 2003) and commissioning hundreds of new works to building an extensive archive – Nicolas and Nicola have been at the coalface of installation art's evolution. In this wide-ranging discussion, they share what it was like convincing galleries that installation art even existed, why good documentation became their mission, and how they've sustained independent curatorial practice for four decades on "absolute shoestring budgets." Key insights from this episode: • How installation art emerged and why galleries insisted it was "just sculpture" • Coining the term "immersive" in their 2003 book (before it became ubiquitous) • Their philosophy of curating as co-production • The economics of independent spaces: how friendships sustain what funding cannot • Why they turned down a massive London space and turned to making books • The difference between installation art and the "entertainment industry" of immersive experiences • Advice for emerging artists: practice comes first, outcomes come later Nicolas de Oliveira and Nicola Oxley are based in London and run SE8 Gallery in Deptford. Their books Installation Art (1994) and Installation Art in the New Millennium (2003) remain foundational texts in the field. They publish artist books under their imprint Mulberry Tree Press and continue to curate exhibitions internationally while maintaining one of the most extensive archives of installation art documentation in the world. 00:26 Discovering Installation Art 01:50 Early Influences and Inspirations 06:24 Founding Unit 7 Gallery 07:30 The Role of Documentation 14:45 Museum of Installation 18:30 SE8 Gallery and International Projects 20:05 Challenges of Space and Real Estate 24:10 Curatorial Practices and Artist Relationships 36:09 Writing Process and Collaboration 43:02 Funding and Sustainability 47:06 Installation Art and the Art Market 01:05:08 Supporting Artists Through Time and Commitment 01:07:36 Advice for Emerging Installation Practitioners 01:17:58 Curating Shows in Different Countries 01:24:09 Documenting and Archiving Installations 01:43:44 Defining Installation Art and Its Future SE8 Gallery: https://se8.gallery/ | https://www.instagram.com/nicode.oliveira?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Installation Art (1996): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12208566-installation-art Installation Art in the New Millennium (2003): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1972215.Installation_Art_in_the_New_Millennium Our interview with Hans op de Beeck: https://installationartpodcast.com/hans-op-de-beeck-018 Bonus episode: What is Installation Art: https://installationartpodcast.com/bonus-025 Bonus episode: Why This 2026 Venice Biennale Scandal is Splitting the Art World: https://installationartpodcast.com/bonus-031 Also mentioned in this episode: Goldsmith’s University: https://www.gold.ac.uk/ | https://www.instagram.com/goldsmithsuol/ | @GoldsmithsUoL Arte Povera: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arte_Povera Yves Klein: https://www.yvesklein.com/en/yves-klein/ | Allan Kaprow: http://www.allankaprow.com/ Dan Graham: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Graham Rachel Whiteread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Whiteread | https://www.instagram.com/rachelwhitereadofficial/ Bruce Nauman: https://www.moma.org/artists/4243-bruce-nauman | https://www.instagram.com/brucenaumanart/ Edward Woodman: https://jhg.art/events/space-light-and-time-edward-woodman-a-retrospective/ Helen Chadwick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Chadwick Thames & Hudson: https://www.thamesandhudson.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/thamesandhudson ICA London: https://www.ica.art/ https://www.instagram.com/icalondon/ Whitechapel Gallery: https://www.whitechapelgallery.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/whitechapelgallery | @whitechapelgallery Camden Art Centre: https://camdenartcentre.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/camdenartcentre/ | @camden-art-centre Museum of Installation: https://www.moca.london/moi.html | https://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-britain/museum-of-installation-archive New Museum: https://www.newmuseum.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/newmuseum/ | @newmuseum Phyllida Barlow: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/2826-phyllida-barlow/ KW Institute for Contemporary Art: https://www.kw-berlin.de/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/kwinstitutefcontemporaryart/ Boris Groys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Groys Goshka Macuga: https://www.moma.org/artists/131293-goshka-macuga | https://www.instagram.com/gonogo.space/?hl=en Hans op de Beeck: https://hansopdebeeck.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/hans_op_de_beeck/ Dave Hickey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hickey Stefan Brüggemann: http://www.stefanbruggemann.com/ | a...

Try Descript: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz An in-depth conversation with award-winning sculptor and installation artist Zadok Ben-David, whose practice spans delicate miniature work to large-scale public installations. From his early beginnings in Yemen and Israel to representing his country at the Venice Biennale, Zadok shares the philosophical and practical journey behind his internationally acclaimed work. Discover how he transforms metal into poetic metaphors exploring human nature, evolution, and our relationship with the natural world (and how one installation changed a stranger's life forever). Key insights from this episode: • The path from abstract expressionism at St Martin's School of Art to creating massive figurative installations • How 30,000 hand-painted flowers became one of the world's most travelled installations and the team of assistants who helped create them • Behind the scenes of installing work across five continents, from prisoners in Germany to 70 assistants in Uzbekistan • The commercial strategy that funds large-scale installations through smaller original works • Why Zadok turned down a $1 million public art commission to maintain artistic integrity • The profound moment when his Blackfield installation helped a Holocaust survivor find hope again Zadok Ben-David is based in London and Portugal. You can find out more about his work on his website https://www.zadokbendavid.com/ and follow him on Instagram @zadokstudio https://www.instagram.com/zadokstudio/ Exhibition “FLOWERS. Art from the Renaissance to Artificial Intelligence” in Rome until 22 February 2026: https://www.chiostrodelbramante.it/post_mostra/flowers-flowers-art/ 03:27 Work-Life Balance Insights 06:15 Journey to Art and Family Influence 09:17 Art School Challenges and Triumphs 10:19 Moving to London and Early Struggles 15:15 Discovering Sculpture and Teaching 21:06 First Installations 25:17 Animal Metaphors in Art 34:25 Global Exhibitions and Unique Experiences 38:23 Commercial Aspects of Art 40:33 People I Saw, But Never Met 44:58 Art Installations Around the World 48:58 The Other Side of Midnight 54:44 Challenges in Art Installations 01:04:37 The Healing Power of Art 01:11:40 Upcoming Exhibitions and Contact Information Also mentioned in this episode: Anish Kapoor: https://anishkapoor.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/dirty_corner/ Jerusalem Art Academy: https://www.bezalel.ac.il/en | https://www.instagram.com/bezalel_academy | @bezalelacademyofartanddesi1460 University of Reading: https://www.reading.ac.uk/ | https://www.instagram.com/uniofreading/ | @UniofReading Chelsea College of Arts: https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/chelsea-college-of-arts | https://www.instagram.com/unioftheartslondon/ | @UniversityoftheArtsLondon Central Saint Martins: https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/central-saint-martins | https://www.instagram.com/unioftheartslondon/ | @UniversityoftheArtsLondon Anthony Caro: https://www.anthonycaro.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/anthonycarocentre/ Aesop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesop's_Fables Krylov: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Krylov's_fables Kröller-Müller Museum: https://krollermuller.nl/en | https://www.instagram.com/krollermullermuseum/ Kunsthal Rotterdam: https://www.kunsthal.nl/en/#tijdlijn-2026-03 | https://www.instagram.com/kunsthal/ | @KunsthalRotterdam Art Gallery of Uzbekistan: https://uzbekistan1.com/art-gallery-of-uzbekistan/ Neanderthal Museum: https://neanderthal.de/en | https://www.instagram.com/neanderthalmuseum/ |@NeanderthalMuseum Sculpture by the Sea: https://sculpturebythesea.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sculpturebythesea | @sculpturebythesea National Museum of the Republic of Kazakhstan: https://nmrk.kz/en/ | @qazaqstanrespyblkasynynult9862 Annandale Galleries: https://annandalegalleries.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/annandalegalleries/ Ploshchad Mira Museum Center: https://mira1.ru/about | @na_mira1 Krasnoyarsk Museum Biennale: https://biennale.ru/ Joseph Beuys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Beuys GYRE: https://gyre-omotesando.com/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/gyre_omotesando/ | @gyreTV Chiostro del Bramante: https://www.chiostrodelbramante.it/post_mostra/flowers-flowers-art/ | https://www.instagram.com/chiostrodelbramante_roma | @chiostrodelbramante Andreas Gursky: https://www.andreasgursky.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/andreasgursky_official Ai Weiwei: https://www.aiweiwei.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/aiww/ The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive. 🔔 Hit subscribe or follow wherever you’re listening to never miss a new episode. 📢 Follow us on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ Tiktok: @installationartpodcast 📚 More information about the show and previous episodes: www.installationartpodcast.com Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/ Mentioned in this episode: Try Descript: https://get.descript.com/s8kjemvu79fz

Subscribe to receive new episodes straight to your inbox: https://installationartpodcast.com/subscribe In this bonus episode, host Anastasia Parmson explores what it really means to approach residencies as an installation artist. Beyond the logistics of time, space, and materials, we dive into bigger questions that shape the medium: • How to make large-scale, site-specific work in short timeframes and unfamiliar contexts? • What happens when you choose temporary or fragile materials instead of archival ones? • Is the value of installation art in the object, the process or the audience experience? • Could installation art be considered disposable or should we always aim for permanence? Drawing from a recent experimental residency at DRAW Space in Sydney, Anastasia reflects on the challenges of working fast, improvising with cardboard and collaborating with others. But more importantly, you’ll be invited to consider your own approach to residencies, materials, and the long-term value of installation art. Whether you’re an installation artist or simply curious about how these questions play out in practice, this episode offers insights and provocations designed to spark discussion. 00:00 Introduction and Listener Review 01:54 Invitation to Draw Space Residency 03:47 Challenges and Initial Thoughts 06:10 Execution and Community Involvement 08:21 Building the Installation 12:01 Final Touches and Open Day 15:43 Reflections on the Experiment 24:49 Conclusion and Future Plans Did this episode raise questions or spark ideas? We’d love to hear from you! Share your thoughts, stories, or residency experiences: • Leave a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/installationartpodcast • Send a DM on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/installationartpodcast/ • Use the contact form: https://installationartpodcast.com/contact Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/installationartpodcast Also mentioned in this epsisode: DRAW Space: https://drawspace.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/drawspacesydney Mentioned in this episode: Get your .art domain name https://get.art/?refdotart=art5044n9z17m promo code: ART5044N9Z17M