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In the season 4 premiere of Meet the Visionaries, MIT Center for Real Estate alumnus Jim Heid SM '94 talks with Becky Lin, MSRED Candidate 2027, about building small. Founder of the Small Scale Development Forum and author of Building Small, Heid argues that vibrant neighborhoods grow incrementally, in partnership with local communities, rather than through single large projects. Join us as we explore how developers, policymakers, and community advocates can bring policy, capital, and vision together to create lasting neighborhoods and middle-income housing. The conversation covers the hallmarks of small-scale development and the persistent challenge of financing. Learn more about Building Small Director: Denise DeLorey Interview by: Becky Lin Production by: Becky Lin / Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E cre.mit.edu

In this episode, Eric Plesman, President & CEO of Oxford Properties, challenges prevailing narratives on institutional real estate investing. We dig into whether permanent pension capital changes investment decisions, what separates trophy office from secular decline, and why patient capital makes you behave differently than investors operating on defined timelines. Join us as we discuss Oxford's key development criteria which include the ever-important location, demand durability, operational leverage, and ESG resilience. The conversation includes specific examples from Oxford's portfolio, including the recent acquisition of properties from CPP and the development of Hudson Yards, as well as perspectives on how factors like AI and geopolitical uncertainty affect real estate markets. Director: Denise DeLorey Interview by: Cherry Tang Production by: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

Mark G. Roberts, MSRED alumnus, Managing Director of Research at Crow Holdings Capital, and Director of Research at SMU's Folsom Institute, joins us to unpack his 2026 real estate outlook — and the conversation goes well beyond the report. We dig into why he's calling 2026 a "bifurcated" market and what that means for capital allocation. We pressure-test his 4.15 to 4.30 percent range on the 10-year Treasury against the fiscal deficit picture, talk through the 160 basis point gap between NCREIF valuation cap rates and transaction cap rates, and ask which market an LP should believe. Mark explains why the Sunbelt-versus-coastal debate is the wrong frame for 2026, why retail is his most enthusiastic call but institutional capital isn't following, and why industrial may no longer be one asset class. He also shares the market he's watching most closely, where his own team is most divided, and the research gap he thinks the industry will look back on in five years. Director: Denise DeLorey Interview by: Michael Khamis Production by: Michael Khamis / Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

In this episode, MSRED student Cherry Tang sits down with MSRED alumnus Carlos Rosso, Founder & President of Rosso Development.Carlos Rosso shares his journey from Argentina to MIT to lead developer shaping Miami's skyline. After decades building across multiple continents and navigating the 2008 financial crisis at Related Group, he launched his independent firm and is still applying lessons from MIT to reimagine real estate development.   Carlos discusses why Miami has become a global magnet for capital, talent, and innovation and shares his vision for Midtown Park; a transformational $2 billion mixed-use community designed as a "neighborhood within a neighborhood". He also explores innovative solutions like autonomous vehicles and offers candid advice for aspiring developers on resilience, long-term thinking, and creating lasting community value. Director: Denise DeLorey Interview by: Cherry Tang Production by: Cherry Tang / Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, interviewer Monisha Nasa speaks with Hossein Fateh, founder and CEO of Cloud Capital and CloudHQ, about the future of digital infrastructure. Drawing on decades of experience in developing and operating data centers worldwide, Fateh discusses how the industry has evolved from cloud to AI, the differences between training and inference AI facilities, and the growing importance of power, location, and underwriting discipline. He also shares perspectives on global expansion, development risk, renewable energy, and the policy case of data centers as critical infrastructure. Director: Denise DeLorey Interview by: Monisha Nasa Production by: Monisha Nasa / Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, MIT Center for Real Estate students Ryan Othman and Jainil Shah sit down with David DesPrez, Partner on Bain Capital’s Special Situations team, to explore how one of the industry’s leading investors navigates real estate dislocation across debt and equity. David shares how Bain approaches capital solutions, distressed investing, and platform-based real estate strategies, while offering insights on today’s market dynamics across office, multifamily, industrial, hotels, and senior living. The conversation also dives into sourcing proprietary deals, assessing risk across cycles, and where opportunity may emerge next in commercial real estate. Director: Denise DeLorey Interview by: Ryan Othman, Jainil Shah Production by: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, Jainil Shah sits down with Nirupa Shankar, Joint Managing Director of Brigade Group, for a wide-ranging conversation on leadership, strategy, and building resilience in India’s real estate and hospitality markets. Drawing on her experience across consulting, hospitality, and development—as well as her discipline as an Ironman triathlete—Nirupa reflects on how these experiences shaped her approach to problem solving, discipline, and decision making. The conversation explores her transition into leadership within a legacy organization and the mindset shift required to move from analysis to ownership of outcomes. Nirupa shares how she navigated the post COVID revival of hospitality, the rise of flexible workspaces, and creating value with mixed use developments through a powerful “halo effect.” Looking forward, Nirupa discusses how innovation, technology, and sustainability are reshaping real estate, which inspired her to start Brigade REAP and the Earth Fund. A grounded and thoughtful dialogue on how endurance and adaptability play in global real estate. Director: Denise DeLorey Interview by: Jainil Shah Production by: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

MSRED candidate Michael Khamis welcomes David Steinbach, Global Chief Investment Officer at Hines, to MIT’s Center for Real Estate for an in-person conversation. David made the trip from Houston to Cambridge to sit down with our students and share his perspective on the forces reshaping global real estate. With more than 25 years at Hines and oversight of a platform that has grown from roughly $10 billion to over $90 billion in assets under management, David offers a vantage point across cycles, geographies, and sectors.   In this episode, we cover: ·        Where we are in the global real estate cycle — and what makes this downturn and recovery fundamentally different ·        How Hines is navigating the repricing of risk and a higher cost of capital environment ·        The tension between deglobalization and global capital flows, and why local market knowledge has never mattered more ·        Structural conviction in the living sector — from multifamily and build-to-rent to student housing and senior living — amid a deepening global housing shortfall ·        How recent executive action on single-family rental acquisitions is reshaping BTR and SFR investment strategy ·        The rise of powered land plays: why power availability and grid capacity are becoming the defining constraint for data centers and AI-driven infrastructure ·        Lessons from working alongside the legendary Gerald Hines ·        Advice for students and early-career professionals who aspire to lead at a strategic level Whether you're an investor, developer, student, or anyone trying to make sense of where real estate goes from here, this conversation is essential listening. Director: Denise DeLorey Interview by: Michael Khamis Production by: Michael Khamis / Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, MIT/CRE student Monisha Nasa sits down with Susan Uthayakumar, Chief Energy and Sustainability Officer at Prologis, one of the world’s largest logistics real estate company. Susan shares her career journey leading to her role in global sustainability at Prologis. She outlines how Prologis is transforming logistics real estate through sustainable design, on‑site energy generation, fleet electrification, and data‑driven emissions management. Susan discusses the challenges and opportunities of decarbonizing Scope 3 emissions, the impact of AI-driven energy demand, and the company’s approach to microgrids, modular data centers, and emerging technologies like modular nuclear. Offering an optimistic view of the future, she emphasizes collaboration, innovation, and purpose-driven work. Susan encourages students and industry leaders to take risks, experiment boldly, and care deeply about the problems they choose to solve. Interview by:  Monisha Nasa / MSRED 2026 Director: Denise DeLorey Production: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E Learn more: https://www.prologis.com/about/our-story/leadership/susan-uthayakumar

In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, Jainil Shah sits down with Adam Gordon, Managing Partner at Wildflower, for a thoughtful conversation on real estate investing, design-led development, and building enduring platforms in complex urban environments. Adam shares how Wildflower approaches investment through a deep understanding of demand, long-term trends, and human behavior. The discussion explores how conviction is built over time, why small and intentional gestures matter in relationship-building, and how developers can create value by aligning capital, design, and community impact. Adam also reflects on leadership, decision-making under uncertainty, and what it takes to build trust across cycles. A candid and inspiring conversation for investors, operators, and students interested in how thoughtful development and principled leadership come together in practice. Interview by:  Jainil Shah / MSRED 2026 Director: Denise DeLorey Production: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E Learn more: https://www.wildflowerltd.com

In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, Jainil Shah sits down with Sally Ann Flood, U.S. Real Estate Sector Leader at Deloitte, for a thoughtful conversation on navigating today’s real estate cycle with judgment and conviction. Drawing on her research and decades of experience across multiple market cycles, Sally Ann shares why the current moment represents a pause rather than a stop, how leaders should think about decision-making under uncertainty, and what separates firms that emerge stronger from those that stall. The discussion explores capital availability, the growing role of private credit, collaboration through joint ventures, and how data, experience, and long-term perspective come together in real-world decisions. A timely and grounded conversation for students, investors, and operators seeking clarity amid complexity.  Interview by: Jainil Shah, MSRED Candidate 2026 Director: Denise DeLorey Production: Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E Learn more: https://www.deloitte.com/

In this episode of Meet the Visionaries, MSRED student Michael Khamis speaks with MaryAnne Gilmartin, Founder and CEO of MAG Partners, about what it means to build cities with conviction, purpose, and long-term vision. MaryAnne traces her path from public service in New York City’s economic development ecosystem to leading transformative real estate projects in the city, including the Barclays Center, the New York Times Building, and New York by Gehry.  The conversation explores MaryAnne’s decision to launch MAG Partners, grounded in a belief that a development firm can be both principled and profitable. She discusses navigating capital formation through volatile cycles, the importance of patient capital, and why she continues to bet on New York City despite political and market headwinds. MaryAnne also offers a candid assessment of housing policy, public-sector collaboration, and what functional public–private partnerships require. MaryAnne reflects on MAG Partners’ mission-driven approach to development, including naming buildings after unsung women leaders and designing projects that prioritize beauty, sustainability, and community impact. As she states, “An urban developer can lift a city,” a sentiment that portrays both the responsibility and opportunity embedded in the profession. Interview by: Michael Khamis / MSRED 2026 Director: Denise DeLorey Production: Michael Khamis / Lacey Cochran Music from #Uppbeat: https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-with-me License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E Learn more: https://magpartners.com

In this episode, we meet with Chris Bilotto, Executive Vice President at The RMR Group, and President & CEO of both Diversified Healthcare Trust and Service Properties Trust. With leadership roles spanning healthcare real estate, hospitality, and a diverse portfolio of operating properties, Chris shares how he navigates the complexities of managing large, dynamic real estate platforms. From lessons in operational excellence to the evolving demands of healthcare assets and the future of service-oriented real estate, Chris offers insights shaped by decades of hands-on experience. He discusses RMR’s integrated approach, the importance of aligning operations with long-term value creation, and what it means to lead teams through thoughtful business practice. Whether you’re interested in REIT management, sector-specific challenges, or broader leadership wisdom, learn from an experienced executive driving strategy across multiple major real estate trusts. Interview by: Shagun Kalra MSRED Candidate 2026 Director: Denise DeLorey Production: Shagun Kalra / Lacey Cochran Music from ⁠⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠⁠:⁠⁠⁠https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-...⁠⁠⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E

In this episode, host Michael Khamis, a student in the MIT Master of Science in Real Estate Development program, sits down with EvanRegan-Levine, Chief Strategy Officer at JBG SMITH (NYSE: JBGS)—one of the most influential real estate owners and developers in the Washington, D.C. region. Together, they explore how JBG SMITH is reshaping urban districts through data-driven strategy, digital infrastructure, and long-term placemaking. Evan shares insights into the transformation of National Landing—home to Amazon HQ2 and Virginia Tech’s Innovation Campus—and discusses how the firm’s contrarian bets on adaptive reuse and smart-city infrastructure are positioning it for the next generation of mixed-use development.   The conversation spans from strategy to execution, revealing how JBG SMITH blends technology, capital-markets insight, and long-term vision to create lasting value for its shareholders. Evan reflects on the evolution of National Landing into a connected innovation district and the lessons learned in building an ecosystem anchored by Amazon, Virginia Tech, and the Pentagon. He discusses the firm’s growing pipeline of adaptive-reuse projects—from Tysons Dulles Plaza to Bell Street—and how these efforts are redefining the urban fabric of the D.C. region. Along the way, Evan unpacks the importance of higher-education anchors in fueling innovation economies and shares how JBG SMITH balances visionary placemaking with the discipline of a public-company framework, from share buybacks to portfolio repositioning. Whether your interests lie in urban transformation, smart infrastructure, or the future of real-estate strategy, this episode displays how visionary leadership and disciplined execution intersect to shape the cities of tomorrow. Interview by: Michael Khamis / MSRED Candidate 2026 Director: Denise DeLorey Production: Michael Khamis / Lacey Cochran Music from ⁠⁠#Uppbeat⁠⁠:⁠⁠https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-...⁠⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E Learn more: https://www.jbgsmith.com

In this episode, Shotaro Fujisawa, founder of Yamori (ヤモリ), joins us to discuss how his Tokyo-based startup is reimagining Japan’s housing market. Founded in 2019, Yamori tackles Japan’s growing vacant-home crisis by acquiring and rehabilitating underused properties, turning them into affordable rentals for overlooked groups such as foreign workers, single-parent families, and young renters. Beyond renovation, the company builds digital tools for landlords, offers beginner-friendly real estate education, and integrates smart home technology to improve safety and accessibility for elderly tenants. In this conversation, Shotaro explains the economic and cultural forces driving Japan’s vacant-home problem and how Yamori’s data-driven, community-based model is restoring both housing supply and social trust. Yamori is leveraging a special purpose company (SPC) model, a form of public-private partnership with local municipalities, to finance its projects and deliver affordable housing at scale. Shotaro’s story captures the courage, ingenuity, and resilience it takes to build from the ground up—showing how purpose-driven entrepreneurship can transform communities and redefine what housing means in Japan. Interview by: Cherry Tang / MSRED Candidate 2026 Director: Denise DeLorey Production: Cherry Tang / Lacey Cochran Music from ⁠#Uppbeat⁠:⁠https://uppbeat.io/t/mark-july/dance-...⁠License code: KQAWWN4CWQXDF01E Learn more: https://www.yamori.co.jp