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WE ARE SO BACK. Katie and Hallie are back on Between Us Moms after a little hiatus, and this week we're diving into the pop culture moments, motherhood debates, and very real mom feelings that have everyone talking. Nara Smith. Ben Affleck's recent comments and Alexander Skarsgard's weird shoes. There's a lot to unpack here. First, we're catching up on Dancing with the Stars! Who are we voting for? We're SO inspired by Ezra Frech, always rooting for Sharna Burgess, and think Taylor Hanson and Britt Stewart deserved more time on the show. Alexander Skarsgård's questionable plastic shoes have Hallie personally offended by his toes but Katie is concerned about something else. 😂 Then, Ben Affleck's recent comments about co-parenting with Jennifer Garner spark a BIG conversation: Are moms actually better at parenting, or have we just been conditioned to believe we have to be? Do dads get to be the “fun parent”? And what would actually fall apart if you were away from home for 48 hours? We're also talking Nara Smith, who has defended her decision to have four kids before the age of 24 and says motherhood hasn't held back her career. The moms weighs in on the way her comments about “old moms” were framed, and we get into why there is no one-size-fits-all timeline for motherhood. Has becoming a mom changed your career plans? Do you think Nara's perspective is empowering, or does having resources make all the difference? Plus, life updates from our hosts, the magic of having kids in school for half the day, Hallie's newfound desire to attend ALL the weddings, and Katie reflecting on five years of marriage, what she's proud of, and a few things that still make her say “WTF.” And television right now. Is anyone else watching The Diplomat or War? We need to discuss!! We're so happy to be back, and we REALLY want to hear from you! Join the conversation: Are moms held to a different standard than dads? Did motherhood change your career dreams? Tell us your thoughts, and come hang out with us on Between Us Moms. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Actress, author, entrepreneur, podcast host, and mom of four Sarah Wright Olsen joins Between Us Moms for an honest conversation about motherhood, mom guilt, marriage after kids, career shifts, raising independent children, and finding yourself again in the chaos of motherhood. You may know Sarah from Parks and Recreation, Mad Men, The House Bunny, American Made, and Spinning Out, or from The Mother Daze podcast, which she co-hosts with actress Teresa Palmer. Now, Sarah is adding children’s book author to the list with When I Am Not With You, a heartfelt new book inspired by her own family’s ritual for staying connected through school drop-offs, work trips, and time apart. Sarah gets candid about why becoming a mom completely changed the way she approaches her acting career, including the moment she realized she no longer wanted a career that constantly took her away from her children. She also opens up about separating her self-worth from her career and income, navigating mom guilt, losing herself during the transition from one to two children, and eventually finding her way back to herself as a woman outside of motherhood. We also talk about marriage and parenting with her husband, actor Eric Christian Olsen, how they find time to connect after nearly 20 years together, and why their simplest “dates” sometimes happen over coffee after school drop-off. Plus, Sarah shares the routines that help their household of four kids actually function, including their “Rock and Roll List,” teaching kids responsibility through household chores, setting boundaries, the highly coveted “Ice Cream Friday,” and the parenting lessons she’s learned from Teresa Palmer and the other moms in her life. And for any parent currently dealing with tearful preschool or kindergarten drop-offs, Sarah shares the beautiful story behind When I Am Not With You and the simple phrase her family uses to remind their children that even when they’re apart, they’re always connected. In this episode: • Mom guilt and separation anxiety at school drop-off • How motherhood changes your career priorities • Sarah’s decision to step away from the Hollywood hustle • Losing and rediscovering your identity after becoming a mom • Marriage and making time for your partner after kids • Raising four children and managing a busy household • Teaching kids chores, responsibility, and independence • Sarah and Eric Christian Olsen’s parenting philosophy • The “Rock and Roll List” and “Ice Cream Friday” • What Sarah has learned about motherhood from Teresa Palmer • Finding humor when parenting feels completely chaotic • The inspiration behind When I Am Not With You • Helping children feel connected during separation, school, and travel If you’ve ever wondered how to balance motherhood and career, struggled with mom guilt, cried after preschool drop-off, or wondered who you are outside of being “Mom,” this conversation will make you feel a little less alone. When I Am Not With You by Sarah Wright Olsen is available now. Subscribe to Between Us Moms for honest conversations about motherhood, parenting, relationships, identity, pop culture, and everything moms are actually talking about. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's are married and we're breaking down every viral detail from the wedding — the celebrity guest list and emotional vows to Karlie Kloss, Blake Lively, Adam Sandler officiating, Travis crying, video documentary rumors, and all the moments fans can't stop talking about. Did they actually get a new dog? We have so many fun thoughts and insider stories to share! We discuss: ✨ Why they likely picked Adam Sandler to officiate ✨ The guest list—including Brad Pitt, Tom Hanks, Gigi Hadid, Karlie Kloss and why Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds weren't there despite Taylor being their children's godmother ✨ Selena Gomez's seat at the reception—who did she sit with? ✨ The elaborate seating chart ✨ The framed photos lining the hallway as guests entered ✨ The strict NDAs every guest reportedly signed ✨ The AMC executive who allegedly posted—and then quickly deleted—a full account of the wedding ✨ Were cameras secretly filming a Taylor Swift documentary? ✨ Who walked Taylor and Travis down the aisle? ✨ Did the newlyweds quietly adopt a new dog? Then we switch gears to the relationship trend everyone is talking about... Have you heard of a "travel divorce"? Couples are intentionally vacationing separately, and some experts say it can actually strengthen a marriage. Others think it may be a warning sign that a real divorce isn't far behind. Katie and Hallie share whether they'd ever take separate vacations from their husbands—and what this trend might really mean. Plus, we react to the mom who went viral for sharing her five strict summer rules for her tweens. Are her boundaries brilliant... or way too much? We break down every rule and reveal which ones we'd actually use with our own kids. If you love celebrity news, Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, motherhood, parenting debates, pop culture, and honest conversations between moms, this episode is for you. 🎙️ Subscribe to Between Us Moms and leave a review—it helps more moms find the show! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on Between Us Moms, we're talking about everything from mom hacks and home refreshes to the biggest parenting debates dominating the internet. Hallie shares why her overflowing social calendar is taking over her brain, a simple swap that's helping her reduce waste and lower her carbon footprint, and the surprisingly effective way she gets motivated to check off those lingering house projects.  Katie is in full home makeover mode, sharing her latest finds from Prime Day, Home Depot, HomeGoods, Costco, and why she's suddenly obsessed with ferns. Plus, she reveals the feedback her husband, Jason, has for the podcast. Then it's time for Headlines That Made Us Text Each Other. First, we unpack the viral conversation surrounding Emily Ratajkowski's deeply personal essay for The Cut, where she opens up about divorce, dating, single motherhood, and the quote everyone can't stop discussing: "Having a child with the wrong man is one of the fastest ways to ruin your life." We discuss whether she's right, why her comments have sparked so much debate, and whether choosing the wrong parenting partner really can change the course of your life. Next, we're diving into the internet's latest parenting controversy after North West attended Paris Fashion Week without Kim Kardashian by her side. With North only recently turning 13, and considering Kim's traumatic 2016 Paris robbery, was this a sign of healthy independence or a parenting decision that went too far? We share our honest takes. Finally, in The Mom Algorithm, we're breaking down the viral 51% Rule—the mindset shift that's inspiring people to stop letting fear of judgment make their decisions. If you've ever wanted to start something new but worried about what other people would think, this conversation is for you. Whether you're looking for parenting discussions, pop culture news, motherhood conversations or just a fun chat between two moms navigating it all, this episode has something for you. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with another mom who always sends you the headlines that have everyone talking. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on Between Us Moms, Katie and Hallie are giving themselves permission to exhale. The moms dive into why a "lazy weekend" is sometimes so necessary. No birthday parties or social obligations. Just family. Hallie shares why every mom deserves a girls' night out—from getting dressed up and feeling like yourself again to swapping parenting hacks with friends who truly get it. She also shares the NSFW tip she learned about. The conversation takes a turn into celebrity headlines as the ladies discuss Jelly Roll and Bunnie XO's plans to grow their family despite divorcing. Is having a baby after relationship struggles a good idea? Katie and Hallie share their honest opinions and discuss the realities many couples face when navigating fertility, marriage, and major life decisions. They also weigh in on the viral dad who sparked debate after taking his daughters into a women's restroom. What would they expect their own husbands to do in that situation? Plus: • The movies and shows we're watching, including Maternal Instinct and Not Suitable for Work • The importance of getting dressed up • Viral parenting debates • Why berries suddenly cost a small fortune • The shocking cost of extracurricular activities like gymnastics, dance, baseball and swim lessons • The financial realities of raising children today If you've ever felt exhausted, overwhelmed, stretched too thin, or wondered how anyone can afford parenting these days, this mom podcast is for you. Hit play—you're not alone. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on Between Us Moms, we're talking about everything from Taylor Swift wedding rumors, why the 5th installment of Toy Story has us feeling old and why millennials simply can't quit ankle socks. Hallie shares why she's embracing a nostalgic "90s summer" for her daughters, while Katie recaps a memorable family trip to Hawaii, celebrating Kaia's third birthday, and navigating the ever-fun world of toddler sleep regressions. In Headlines That Made Us Text Each Other, we dive into the internet-breaking rumors that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are secretly planning a massive wedding at Madison Square Garden. Is there any truth to the speculation, or are Swifties convinced it's all a distraction from something much more private? We break down the latest theories and share our takes. Then, we're feeling all the emotions about Toy Story 5. Woody has a bald spot, the franchise is turning 31, and the new film tackles a topic every modern parent understands: kids, screens, and the struggle to preserve imaginative play.  Finally, in The Mom Algorithm, we discuss the viral question asking millennials to reveal the most aggressively millennial habits they refuse to give up. From ending every text with "lol" to lifelong loyalty to side parts, crossbody bags, and ankle socks, we're exposing ourselves one cringe habit at a time. Whether you're raising toddlers, obsessing over Taylor and Travis’ upcoming nuptials, surviving sleep regressions, or clinging to your millennial identity, this episode is for you. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on Between Us Moms, we are ALL over the place in the best way possible! We debate the absolutely insane cost of toddler birthday parties and try to figure out what’s actually reasonable to spend in this economy… because between groceries, inflation, and Pinterest-worthy parties, parenting is getting EXPENSIVE. We each put a dollar amount on much we think a kid's birthday party should cost. Then we get into the “sleep divorce” conversation because Hallie might be getting one — should couples sleep in separate rooms if one partner snores?! We also spiral into a full-blown nostalgic 90s crush conversation after hearing about Hilary Duff’s childhood crush on Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Katie and Hallie reveal the heartthrobs that completely defined their childhoods — Joshua Jackson, Hanson, Ryan Phillippe, Scott Speedman, Eric Von Detten, Devon Sawa and more. Plus, they share personal stories and interactions they've had with some of these men that you won't here anywhere else. Plus: • Our thoughts on Netflix’s The Crash: Are Madeline’s parents also partly responsible? • The REAL mom triggers pushing us over the edge lately: Whining, fighting siblings, bedtime battles, overstimulation and never having enough time to get anything done... we are sharing our personal motherhood moments that make us want to cry. If you’re a millennial mom trying to survive parenting, marriage, nostalgia, and the economy all at once… this episode is for you. Make sure to subscribe, leave a review, and follow Between Us Moms for new episodes every week! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, Hallie shares her “Nays of the Week” and reveals that her almost 4-year-old daughter may already be a mini Anna Wintour in the making. She didn’t expect such strong fashion opinions — or so much shade — from someone who still needs help buckling into a car seat. The ladies also get real about periods, perimenopause, and the chaos of womanhood, including why Katie unexpectedly had to take a pregnancy test this week (spoiler: she’s not pregnant). Then, Hallie and Katie dive into the internet discourse surrounding Morgan Stewart’s recent confession that she has two nannies covering all seven days of the week — typically from 8 a.m. to 4 or 5 p.m. The revelation, shared on “The Morgan Stewart Show,” quickly sparked online criticism, and the girls unpack the expectations placed on modern moms, especially wealthy ones. They also weigh in on the drama between Elsie Hewitt and Pete Davidson after Elsie hinted she’s been handling motherhood largely on her own following their split. The former couple share a 5-month-old daughter, Scottie Rose, and speculation exploded after Elsie posted a TikTok explaining how exhausted she’s been balancing work, motherhood, and life on her own. Pete’s camp quickly pushed back, insisting he’s a present and supportive father, while sources say the relationship simply moved too fast after the pair first got together in early 2025. And finally, the girls break down TikTok’s newest parenting phenomenon: the rise of the “beta mom.” See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, we’re diving into all the Mother’s Day chaos, celebrations, and internet drama you may have missed. Katie shares her double slay of the weekend — from a picture-perfect Mother’s Day surprise to the big news that she’s MOVING. Plus, Hallie explains why Instagram locked her husband out of his account after posting about her for Mother’s Day… and the wild NSFW ad she got served online. We also break down Taylor Frankie Paul’s emotional Mother’s Day rant and the growing fallout with her ‘Secret Lives of Mormon Wives’ co-star Mikayla Matthews. Between custody battles, protective orders, leaked footage, and public feuds, the drama surrounding Taylor and Dakota Mortensen just keeps escalating — and now it’s affecting careers, friendships, and the future of the show itself. Then, a softer celeb moment: Rihanna’s adorable new tattoo inspired by her kids’ colorful scribbles, created by celebrity tattoo artist Bang Bang. And finally — let’s talk about sex and parenthood. We’re unpacking new data from Emily Oster’s survey of 26,000 parents about how intimacy changes after kids, why it gets harder in the early years, and whether things actually bounce back over time. Motherhood, messiness, internet scandals, celebrity drama, and relationship realities — we cover it all this week. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on Between Us Moms, we interview Miranda Hope from 'The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives' for a fun and relatable conversation about motherhood, friendships, dating after divorce, co-parenting, and finding peace in the chaos -- just in time for Mother's Day. Miranda opens up about the era of life she’s in right now—her “intentional era”—and why slowing down, protecting her peace, and choosing aligned relationships has become her top priority. From navigating mom guilt (and why it never fully goes away) to embracing her role as a single working mom, this episode is filled moments every mom will feel. We also dive into: Dating as a single mom + her surprisingly relatable dream dateGreen flags in relationships and finding love after heartbreakHer thoughts on getting remarried and having more kidsThe truth about burnout and why she feels most at peace at home with her kidsCo-parenting struggles and learning to let go of controlHow she handles friendship breakups and being misunderstoodHonest Mother’s Day wants Miranda also shares powerful reflections on identity, healing, and what it really means to show up as your most authentic self after going through major life changes. If you love watching Miranda on 'SLOMW' and/or you’re a mom navigating divorce, co-parenting, mom guilt, or burnout, this episode will make you feel seen, validated, and hopeful. “Mom guilt never goes away—it just changes shape.” “Home with my kids is my sanctuary.” “I’m in my intentional era.” "It's a lot easier to handle criticism and hate or backlash when you're like, well, I was being myself." — Please note: This episode was taped in April, which is why we were unable to discuss the upcoming season or spin-off. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Between Us Moms is joined by TV host, bestselling author, and longtime friend Keltie Knight to talk about her bold new book, "The F*ck Them Theory" (available for pre-order now)—and this conversation does not hold back. Keltie gets real about what it actually takes to succeed in Hollywood, why being “perfect” is overrated, and how embracing your “bad” or badass side might be the thing that finally sets you free and helps you to succeed. In this episode, we dive into: ✨ The truth about Hollywood - from red carpets and fashion to after-parties (and why it’s not as glamorous as you might think) and her most awkward encounter ✨ Why money is the ultimate power move and the most important accolade you can have ✨ The reality behind Emmy Awards and what they really cost ✨ Why sometimes you have to leave a job to be seen the way you want to be seen ✨ The future of entertainment news after the cancellation of E! News and Access Hollywood ✨ Influencer culture vs. a return to excellence ✨ Why red carpets may soon become obsolete ✨ The Met Gala—and why it’s become more of a TikTok moment than an A-list experience ✨ Tips moms need to hear if they have a dream they want to build into reality Keltie also opens up in a way we’ve never heard before—sharing what she unlearned about herself while writing this book, who might be the most upset when it comes out, and yes… the story behind her facelift. Plus, she breaks down why she actually loves having enemies, what makes her an “evil genius,” and how she’s using that mindset to help other women win big. Moms, she has incredible ideas if you're ready to build a new career path for yourself! This episode is equal parts empowering, unfiltered, and wildly entertaining—and might just change the way you think about success. Pre-order The Fck Them Theory now and tune in for one of our most honest conversations yet.* See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this powerful and deeply honest episode of Between Us Moms, we welcome back bestselling author and returning guest Sarah Hoover for a conversation that every mother—and mother-to-be—needs to hear. Since her last appearance, Sarah has traveled the globe promoting her critically acclaimed book "The Motherload," now available in paperback and currently being adapted into a television series. Along the way, she uncovered something striking: women everywhere are desperate for a space to talk openly about the realities of motherhood. From intrusive thoughts in the early postpartum weeks to the silent weight so many mothers carry, Sarah shares what she learned after meeting thousands of women who felt unheard, overwhelmed, and alone. We dive into the universal truths of motherhood, including the shocking realization that many women—even into their 70s—never recognized they experienced postpartum depression until reading "The Motherload." Sarah opens up about why owning your truth as a mother is essential and why no one deserves to spend decades disconnected from their own experience. Sarah also takes us behind the scenes of "The Motherload" TV adaptation, discussing the growing wave of honest storytelling about motherhood in Hollywood. She shares her dream casting (including her pick for who should play her), reveals that several high-profile moms have reached out to support the project, and reflects on how motherhood transcends status, fame, and access. In this episode, we also talk about: Why mothers need to have hard, honest conversations—not just for themselves, but for their childrenThe cultural shift toward more authentic portrayals of motherhood in mediaSarah’s thoughts on the controversial article about mothers who regret having childrenHer personal “mama hot takes,” including breaking free from Instagram addictionThe biggest myth she believes we need to stop telling new moms Plus, Sarah shares the simple but powerful practice that makes her feel whole as a mother—and why being present matters more than ever. This is an unfiltered, validating, and inspiring conversation about modern motherhood, mental health, postpartum experiences, and the importance of community. 🎧 If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, unseen, or questioned your experience as a mom, this episode will remind you: you are not alone. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is a full love letter to Taylor Swift—and the Swifties who grew up with her. We’re joined by Olivia Levin (@swiftiesforeternity), author of "The Story of Us," to dive deep into the magic behind the fandom that shaped a generation. From decoding Easter eggs to what it’s surprisingly like meeting Taylor, Olivia shares the behind-the-scenes of her new book and the community that inspired it. We swap Taylor stories and memories... reflect on iconic dates, eras and moments and share predictions about TS13. We get into everything: ✨ The most iconic Taylor Swift bridges ✨ The saddest songs and favorite albums ✨ The Travis Kelce era and what it means for Taylor’s story -- we can't wait for her wedding photos! ✨ Wild fan theories and predictions ✨ The bond between moms and daughters through Taylor’s music Plus—why Taylor feels like the “ultimate mother” to so many women and how her music continues to evolve with us through every stage of life. Whether you’re a lifelong Swiftie or raising one, this episode is pure joy, candid conversation, magic, nostalgia, and joy. #Swifties #TaylorSwift #TheStoryOfUs See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this inspiring and deeply honest episode of Between Us Moms, we sit down with world-renowned climber Emily Harrington—a 5-time U.S. National Champion and the first woman to successfully free climb Yosemite’s iconic Golden Gate route on El Capitan in a single day. Known for redefining what’s possible both on and off the wall, Emily has built a career on resilience, ambition, and pushing limits—and now, she’s navigating her most transformative role yet: motherhood. (And yes—her documentary Girl Climber was recently nominated for a Sports Emmy.) In this conversation, Emily opens up about how becoming a mom has fundamentally reshaped her identity, her priorities, and what fulfillment looks like in this new season of life. Once driven by clear career milestones and the pressure of a ticking biological clock, she shares how intentional she was about the timing of motherhood—and how much her perspective has shifted since welcoming her son in 2022. Now on the other side, she reflects on the unexpected joy and clarity she’s found, describing herself as “super happy” in a way she didn’t fully anticipate. We also dive into the persistent question so many women face: Can you really have it all? Emily offers a candid and refreshing take, calling the expectation itself an “exhausting narrative.” Instead, she explores how motherhood has redefined what “having it all” even means—and why that definition is allowed to evolve over time. This episode is a thoughtful exploration of ambition, identity, and the quiet (and not-so-quiet) transformations that come with becoming a parent. Emily speaks to the tension between striving and surrendering, and how motherhood doesn’t just add to your life—it reshapes what you want from it entirely. If you’ve ever felt caught between who you were and who you’re becoming, this conversation will leave you feeling seen, grounded, and more at ease with the ever-evolving nature of it all. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Spring cleaning—but make it for your mind, marriage, home and identity as a mom. In this episode of Between Us Moms, we’re diving into the real kind of reset moms actually need—decluttering your brain, your home, your schedule, and your emotional load after having kids. Because let’s be honest… when do we actually get our autonomy back after welcoming kids? We’re talking about: How we’re doing a mental reset as moms (what's helping us close the tabs and what we’re letting go of)Simple ways to declutter your home and your mind without overwhelmWhat it looks like to spring clean your marriage after kids -- what's helping in this busy season as we check in with our husbandsFinding yourself again after motherhood (and redefining who you are now)Mom anxiety, overstimulation, and the invisible mental loadPLUS, real-life mom updates you’ll definitely relate to: Hallie shares about her first parent-teacher conference and the unexpected anxiety that came with itKatie talks about seeing Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce together—and opens up about her daughter’s first school performance and why it didn’t go as plannedIf you’ve been feeling overwhelmed, stretched thin, or like you’ve lost a piece of yourself in motherhood—this episode is your reminder that you’re not alone… and that you can reset. 🤍 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.