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Both Sides of the Aisle is a weekly debate over politics, policy and current issues facing the state of Utah, featuring voices representing the Right, the Center, and the Left.Representing Right is State Auditor John Dougall (R), on the Left is former Salt Lake County Councilwoman Shireen Ghorbani (D), and speaking for the “common sense middle” is Natalie Gochnour, an associate dean in the David Eccles School of Business and director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah. The show is produced by Anthony Scoma.Both Sides of the Aisle attempts to help you understand the important questions facing residents of this state, while proving that Republicans and Democrats can sit in a small room and have a meaningful conversation.

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Steve Waldrip, senior advisor for housing strategy and innovation

2026/02/06

Natalie and Shireen sit down with the senior advisor on housing for Gov. Cox to discuss how the state hopes to house more Utahns.

Erosion of global institutions, DHS, and the State of the State

2026/01/30

Our hosts discuss the fraying of world order, problems with the Department of Homeland Security, and whether U.S. citizens' rights are still unalienable after 250 years.

President Trump's first year and the 2026 Utah Legislative Session

2026/01/23

Our hosts discuss their biggest surprises in the first year since Trump's inauguration, Trump's letter to the Norwegian prime minister, and the start of the Utah legislative session.

Trump's foreign policy and the fatal Minnesota ICE shooting

2026/01/15

Our hosts discuss President Trump's agenda in Iran, Cuba, and Venezuela, and the circumstances that led to an ICE agent killing a Minnesota woman.

Venezuela, the 'Donroe Doctrine,' and the new year ahead

2026/01/08

Our hosts discuss the U.S. removal of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro and what this means for the future of both countries.

Utah Gov. Gary Herbert

2026/01/02

Shireen and Natalie chat with the former Utah governor about his life, lessons from his time in politics, and why he believes Utah is an example for the nation.

Utah's top challenges and opportunities

2025/12/25

Our hosts discuss the most significant challenges and opportunities facing the state of Utah at the close of 2025.

Utah Reps. Tyler Clancy and Grant Miller

2025/12/18

Shireen Ghorbani is joined by Utah Reps. Tyler Clancy and Grant Miller for an in-depth discussion of the contributors and potential solutions to homelessness.

Utah Rep. Doug Owens

2025/12/11

Shireen and Natalie talk to Utah Rep. Doug Owens about bipartisan congressional representation, the cascading benefits of Utah's public lands, and the necessary steps to save the Great Salt Lake.

Trump administration controversies, future U.S. representation, and the 2034 Olympics

2025/12/04

Our hosts discuss recent controversial actions taken by the Trump administration, how current members of Congress will adapt to the new Utah maps, and the new Utah branding of the 2034 Olympic Games.

Shutdown post-mortem, Epstein's emails, and the future population of Utah

2025/11/20

Our hosts discuss the longest U.S. government shutdown in history, the political fallout from Jeffrey Epstein's emails, and the controversy brewing over cloud seeding.

New congressional districts and the Utah Legislature's appeal prospect

2025/11/13

Our hosts discuss the potential constitutional crisis and political opportunities stemming from Judge Gibson's Nov. 10th ruling that tossed the Legislature's preferred map out on grounds of 'extreme' gerrymander.

2025 election results, tariffs, and detention facilities coming to Utah

2025/11/06

Our hosts discuss the politics of the election day victors, SCOTUS hearing a case concerning the Trump tariff regime, and predict when the federal government shutdown will come to an end.

Canadian trade talks, federal food benefits, and defining fairness

2025/10/30

Our hosts discuss why Trump halted trade negotiations with Canada, how the federal government shutdown will affect national food insecurity, and which party will pick Utah Rep. Daniel Thatcher's replacement.

Argentina bailout, No Kings protests, and expanding the Utah Supreme Court

2025/10/23

Our hosts discuss the $40 billion U.S. bailout of Argentina, record-breaking attendance at No Kings protests, and Gov. Cox's thoughts on packing the Utah Supreme Court.

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Xyon Curtain 2025/10/24

Productive Middle

I love the dynamic of the hosts and guests in this show. They disagree without being disagreeable. Natalie is a wealth of wisdom. John is beings the e...

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