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In this solo episode of How To Be In This Body, Ailey Jolie reflects on carrying breast implants for 15 years and the moment she finally had enough capacity to hear the “no” she couldn’t access almost two decades ago. This is a conversation about consent, power, and why trauma tools designed for single events often fail to address lives shaped by repetition, surveillance, and the gaze. Ailey explores how trauma research centered on male bodies overlooks a common female experience: disembodiment without a clear origin story. From self-objectification to the dulling of interoception, she traces the cultural and clinical forces that teach bodies to doubt their own knowing. Rather than chasing perfect regulation, this episode reframes healing as capacity—the ability to feel fear, grief, and hope while still moving toward what is right. Distinguishing “scoreboard” healing from “story” healing, it invites a different question: not what broke you, but what you were shaped to hold. This episode is for anyone who’s tried every somatic tool and still feels far from home. In this episode: Opening And Embodiment MissionThe Gap In Trauma TheoryA Child’s Wish And Split SurvivalPatterning Danger And AdolescenceViolations In Medicine And AftermathSelf‑Objectification And Losing InteroceptionBeauty Culture’s Profitable WoundsChoosing Explant And Choosing TrustRepair Through Consent And CareYou can read the transcript here Learn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

What if the stories your body carries are the map back to belonging? In this conversation with Palestinian–American poet and clinical psychologist Hala Alyan, we explore how narrative, trauma, and the nervous system meet inside a living body. Hala shares how displacement shaped her love of books and oral histories, why writing still arrives as mystery, and how creative practice can offer coherence when life feels scattered. We move beyond buzzwords to talk about embodiment as a political act—how storytelling becomes witness and resistance when institutions fail. Hala offers practical ways to return to your body: hand over heart, 4-7-8 breathing, hot baths without a phone, and the simple mantra “this is just what’s happening.” She also unpacks why perfectionism makes somatics feel inaccessible and how choosing to feel—even discomfort—builds resilience. This episode is for anyone curious about creativity as healing, building distress tolerance, and holding grief and agency at the same time. Expect clear language, grounded tools, and gentle guidance for reconnecting to your body and your story. In this episode: 0:00 – Welcome And Episode Setup3:37 – Narrative As A Unifying Thread9:53 – How Narrative Works In The Body14:46 – Displacement, Reading, And Early Survival20:47 – Creativity As Conduit And Mystery30:17 – Safety, Downregulation, And Rewriting36:52 – Storytelling As Survival And Alliance42:12 – Memory, Erasure, And Resistance49:07 – Embodiment As Political PracticeYou can read the transcript here Learn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

What if a devoted practice is quietly pulling you away from your body instead of deeper into it. In this episode, we sit down with Megan Campbell, yoga teacher, trainer, retreat leader, and psychotherapist, to explore what embodiment really asks of us beyond perfect poses or polished language. Megan shares how grief surfaced unexpectedly through practice, the allure and limitations of modern wellness culture, and the steady courage it took to move from the studio into the therapy room. Together, we examine the ways embodiment can become performative, and how returning to sensation, cycles, and nervous system awareness creates a safer path back to self. This conversation offers a compassionate look at healing that values both story and somatics, honors fluctuation rather than fixing, and reminds us that sometimes the most therapeutic move is to slow down and feel more, not do more. In this episode:  0:00 – Setting The Embodiment Intent7:08 – Teaching Early And Finding Voice10:02 – Women’s Bodies, Ritual, And Safety17:06 – Seasons, Cycles, And Chakras20:28 – Naming Burnout And Aging Out27:32 – Pedestals, Patriarchy, And Credit34:27 – Fixing The Body Or Feeling It39:42 – Seeing Nervous Systems In Motion45:42 – Windows Of Tolerance In PracticeYou can read the transcript here Learn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

What if your body isn’t a barrier to spirituality, but the place where the sacred actually meets you. This is the heart of the conversation with spiritual teacher and retreat leader Brandon Nappi, whose work weaves together Christian mysticism, Zen practice, and somatic healing. Together, we explore a spirituality that is grounded, honest, and lived through the body. Brandon shares how his understanding of faith was transformed through contemplative practice and relationship, learning to hold both insight and belovedness at once. We name the ways body and spirit have been divided through history, and we also remember the quieter traditions that insisted on an embodied faith. This episode offers a practical, compassionate invitation to begin where sensation and breath are available, to build capacity through daily practice, and to meet discomfort without bypassing it. For anyone engaged in leadership, healing, or inner work, this conversation is a reminder that the body can be a place of refuge, devotion, and return. In this episode:  0:00 – Welcome And Embodiment Framing3:26 – Body As Home: Defining Embodiment 11:11 –  Meeting Buddhism And Somatics16:43 – Practice Grounding: Zazen And Breath22:24 – How The Body Was Split From Spirit29:27 – Slow Repair: Somatics And Unlearning32:42 – Men’s Work: From Fragility To Feeling39:34 – Why Spirit Still Matters In Somatics46:00 – The Bandage Story: Sitting With PainYou can read the transcript here Learn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

In this episode of How To Be In This Body, we explore the fawn response as an adaptive survival strategy (not a character flaw) and trace a gentle path from self-abandonment back to self-contact. Dr. Ingrid Clayton, clinical psychologist and author, brings together clinical insight, lived experience, and practical tools for building internal safety and reducing shame. Together, Ailey and Ingrid unpack how fawning develops, why danger can feel familiar, and how our bodies learn to prioritize connection over selfhood. This conversation offers compassion, language, and embodied understanding for anyone who has learned to appease in order to survive and who is ready to begin coming home to themselves. In this episode: 0:00 – Embodiment And Show Welcome1:47 – Meet Dr Ingrid Clayton8:16 – Agency, Validation And Reclaiming Story16:28 – The Missing Discourse On Fawning20:26 – Codependency Versus Trauma Response23:27 – How Fawning Feels In The Body28:34 – From Self-Abandonment To Self-Contact34:57 – Fawning In The Therapy Room 41:34 – Trust Your Body’s Unique Path44:27 – Everyday Practices For RegulationYou can read the transcript here Learn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

Join Ailey Jolie for a raw and personal solo episode of How To Be In This Body. In this New Year's reflection, Ailey shares what happened when her body stopped letting her perform; a year of health crises, the real story behind her viral posts, and the decision to focus her attention on her upcoming book and course INBODY.  In this episode, she explores what it means to let go of an identity built around being needed, why she's done setting goals from the neck up, and the question she's carrying into this year: how do I actually want to spend my time? This episode is for anyone in their own season of stopping, listening, or questioning what comes next.  In this episode:  0:00 – Welcome and Embodiment Focus 1:16 – New Year Messaging Challenged 3:06 – Illness as Unwanted Teacher 8:15 – Writing from Inside the Body 10:31 – Calm Versus Capacity 22:31 – Stopping the Performance 26:00 – Self-Regulation Needs Co-Regulation 33:20 – Holding Less to Live More 39:20 – Capacity, Fawn Response, and NeedsYou can read the transcript here Learn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

Join Ailey Jolie for a tender and personal solo episode of In This Body, where she weaves a health update, insights from a sacred MRI, and listener questions into a nuanced meditation on embodiment. Ailey explores the delicate terrain between anxiety and intuition, the truth about hypervigilance and self-trust, and how regulation can sometimes be disguised compliance. She reflects on the role of anger as sacred information, the necessity of honoring the body’s pace, and the deep practice of meeting life without forcing it. Through her own story, she invites you to listen more deeply; to yourself, to your body, and to the spaces in between. We hope you enjoy the episode. In this episode: 01:00 – Personal Journey through medical Challenges 03:18 – The Importance of listening to the Body 07:53 – Navigating Intuition vs. Anxiety 10:32 – Understanding Hypervigilance and Nervous System Regulation 28:29 – Navigating Disconnection and Cultural Norms 32:25 – Understanding the Threat of Embodiment Work 37:16 – Distinguishing authentic Needs from Conditioning 41:08 – The Challenge of receiving Love 45:06 – Authentic Regulation vs. Comliance 49:15 – Reclaiming Anger without bypassing You can read the transcript here Learn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

Join Ailey Jolie and Mariel Pastor, therapist, trainer, and creator of Character Mapping, on this episode of In This Body. The conversation moves through the heart of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy; exploring how self-energy, parts work, and somatic presence can bring us into deeper peace with ourselves and with one another. Mariel shares reflections on spiritual embodiment, cultural conditioning, and the healing power of love in therapeutic spaces. Together they speak to the nuanced relationship between trauma and creativity, the sacredness of the client-clinician connection, and how healing opens us to both tenderness and aliveness. We hope you enjoy the episode. In this episode:  02:04 Understanding Internal Family Systems (IFS) 08:11 The Systemic Nature of Mind, Body, Spirit, and Culture 12:09 Navigating the Challenges of IFS 18:02 The role of Somatics in IFS Practice 26:03 The importance of Connection in Therapy 34:14 The Role of Nature in Healing 37:21 Creativity and Healing: a deep Connection 39:34 The importance of doing our own Work 443:53 Artists and the wounds of Creativity 52:09 The Nuances of Performance in TherapyYou can read the show transcript here To find out more about Mariel: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Learn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

Join Ailey Jolie and Jambo Truong, bodyworker, yogi, clinician, and mystic, on this episode of In This Body. The conversation journeys into the rich intersection of yoga, trauma recovery, and spiritual ritual—exploring how forest yoga can become both a refuge and a catalyst for transforming self-loathing into embodied presence. Jambo shares his story of growing up between East and West, the healing potential of holding poses long enough to meet what’s hidden, and how mantra, tantric practice, and somatic awareness can root us more fully in our bodies. Together, they reflect on spiritual sovereignty, compassion as an embodied frequency, and how to meet discomfort with curiosity rather than escape. We hope you enjoy the episode. In this episode: 02:48 – What It Means to Be Present and Embodied 03:45 – Bridging Buddhist Ritual and Western Healthcare 06:30 – Early Meditation Practice and Learning to Feel the Body 08:53 – What Is Forest Yoga and Why It’s Unique 13:03 – Eating Disorders, Self-Loathing, and Finding Joy in the Body 18:52 – Trauma, Karma, and the Gifts Hidden in Discomfort 24:28 – Adapting Ancient Practices in Modern Culture 30:08 – Mantra and Tantra as Somatic Tools for Embodiment 36:34 – How Tantra Can Ground or Dissociate Us 41:59 – Final Reflections on Choosing Practices That Cultivate Presence You can read the show transcript here Find out more about Jambo: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: YouTubeLearn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

Join Ailey Jolie and Dr. Christy Gibson, physician, trauma educator, and author of Modern Trauma, on this rich and timely episode of In This Body. Together they explore how trauma lives not just in our minds but in our bodies, and how the pressures of modern life—from the climate crisis to constant digital exposure—shape our nervous systems in ways both visible and hidden. Dr. Gibson shares her vision of trauma as an adaptive response rather than a pathology, highlighting the importance of creativity, interoception, and somatic awareness as tools for personal and collective healing. The conversation weaves through the power of language, the necessity of flexible approaches to care, and the hope that arises when we reclaim agency in our healing journeys. We hope you enjoy the episode. In this episode: 01:48 – Redefining Trauma as an Internal Process 03:29 – What is Modern Trauma? Collective Exposure and Overuse of the Term 07:16 – The Body’s Memory: Amygdala, Triggers, and Stuck Responses 09:34 – How Trauma Shapes Core Beliefs About Safety and Worth 13:28 – Finding Safety Inside When the World is Unsafe 17:40 – Creating an Island of Sanity: Somatic Practices and Grounding 19:23 – Personalizing Your Pathway to Post-Traumatic Growth 23:40 – Challenging Dogma: Flexibility Over Prescriptive Trauma Modalities 27:45 – Creativity, Community, and Ancient Ways of Healing 41:17 – Collective Trauma, Hope, and Changing Systems You can read the show transcript here. To find out more about Christy: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Toolkit Explore: Safer Space Training Follow: TikTok Learn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

Join Ailey Jolie and Dr. Christine Pieton, physical therapist, Pilates instructor, and founder of Pieton Physical Therapy, on this illuminating episode of In This Body. Together they explore the often overlooked world of pelvic health—how our relationship to this part of the body shapes everything from intimacy and emotional wellbeing to physical freedom and self-trust. Christine shares her unexpected path into pelvic floor therapy, weaving in insights about shame, trauma, nervous system regulation, and the importance of consent in healing spaces. The conversation touches on cultural silence, medical trauma, and how honouring the intelligence of the pelvic floor can open up new dimensions of embodiment. We hope you enjoy the episode. In this episode: 01:56 – The Journey into Movement and Healing04:24 – Foundations of Integrative Bodywork and Movement Therapy09:15 – Understanding Body-Mind Centering and Authentic Movement11:32 – The Power of Witnessing in Movement Therapy13:52 – The Rise of Somatic Practices Post-COVID16:43 – Introducing Embodied Spirit and Conscious Earth24:04 – Embodiment of Spirit and Consciousness25:13 – Trauma and Transpersonal Experience27:36 – Honoring the Earth Body in Healing34:43 – Grief and Gratitude in HealingYou can read the show transcript here. To find out more about Christine: Find: WebsiteExplore: Youtube Channel  Explore: Resources Follow on Instagram: pietonptLearn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

Join Ailey Jolie and Linda Hartley, somatic practitioner, author, and a teacher of The Discipline of Authentic Movement, on this contemplative episode of In This Body. Together, they explore embodiment as an evolving, relational journey—shaped by age, memory, and the quiet intelligence of the body itself. Linda shares her path from early dance to the development of a healing modality rooted in Body-Mind Centering and Authentic Movement, offering insight into how presence, witnessing, and somatic attunement can transform personal and collective experience. The conversation also touches on the Earth body, the arc of aging, and the grief and gratitude that accompany living in connection with all that is. We hope you enjoy the episode. In this episode: 00:00 – Introduction to Embodiment and the Podcast01:00 – Linda's Journey into Somatic Practices03:04 – The Development of Integrative Bodywork and Movement Therapy05:47 – Understanding Body-Mind Centering and Authentic Movement08:58 – The Importance of Witnessing in Somatic Practices12:02 – The Rise of Somatic Movement and Therapy15:00 – Exploring Linda's Book17:51 – The Connection Between Personal Healing and Earth Healing21:09 – Grief, Gratitude, and Healing26:51 – Final Thoughts on Being in the BodyYou can read the show transcript here. To find out more about Linda: Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExperience: Discipline of Authentic Movement and PublicationsExplore: Earth Body ConversationsLearn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

Join Ailey Jolie and Andrea Juhan, psychotherapist, embodiment teacher, and co-founder of Open Floor International, on this expansive episode of In This Body. Together, they explore the healing potential of movement, not as performance, but as presence. Andrea shares her journey from Esalen bodyworker to somatic psychotherapist, weaving a life devoted to understanding how the body stores story, spirit, and self. The conversation traces the lineage of movement-based therapies, the relational field of embodiment, and the wild intelligence of the body as teacher. Andrea invites us to consider what it means to feel and deal—with fewer defences and more receptivity. This is a dialogue for anyone craving a deeper relationship with their body, their longing, and their own unfolding truth. In this episode: 02:05 – Understanding Being in Your Body03:32 – The Journey of Movement and Psychology06:07 – Dance Movement Therapy: A Healing Approach09:51 – Movement as Healing vs. Performance11:50 – Collective Stories in the Body15:46 – Gabrielle Roth and the Five Rhythms27:32 – Exploring the Relational Body31:43 – The Essence of Open Floor Movement35:11 – Spirituality and Movement41:42 – Evolution of Embodiment PracticesYou can read the show transcript here. To find out more about Andrea: Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExperience: ProgramsExplore: Open FloorLearn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

Join Ailey Jolie and Dr. Anita Johnston, clinical psychologist, storyteller, and author of Eating in the Light of the Moon, on this episode of In This Body. Together, they explore the symbolic language of food and body image, revealing how struggles with eating are often expressions of deeper, unspoken hungers. Through myth, metaphor, and archetype, Dr. Johnston shares how reconnecting with the inner feminine voice—and listening to the body as a source of wisdom—can support healing and liberation. They discuss the cultural narratives that silence women’s intuition, the role of storytelling in making meaning, and why the journey home to ourselves begins not with control, but with curiosity. This episode invites listeners into a tender, soulful dialogue on embodiment, empowerment, and the truths our hunger is trying to tell us. We hope you enjoy the episode. In this episode: 03:11 The Evolution of Eating Disorder Treatment06:04 Understanding Disordered Eating as a Metaphor09:05 The Role of Storytelling in Recovery12:04 Archetypes and the Feminine Principle15:04 Connecting Emotions and Eating Behaviors18:12 Bringing Consciousness to Unconscious Patterns23:59 Understanding Emotional Eating29:22 The Language of Food and Emotions32:54 Reconnecting with Mother Nature36:49 Grounding and Body Awareness40:01 Cultural Pressures and Body Image41:24 The Journey to Self-AcceptanceYou can read the show transcript here. To find out more about Anita: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Experience: Eating in the Light of the Moon Explore: Free and Paid Resources Learn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]

Join Ailey Jolie and Jaycee Gossett, movement artist and founding teacher of The Class, on this episode of In This Body. The conversation explores embodiment as a lifelong practice, the evolution from performance-based movement to somatic healing, and how the body can become a portal to truth, compassion, and vitality. Jaycee shares her personal journey through competitive dance, burnout, and reconnection—offering insight into how movement, breath, and intentional practice can shift both inner and outer landscapes. The episode also speaks to the power of community, agency, and somatic presence as tools for transformation. We hope you enjoy the episode. In this episode: 03:04 – Personal Journey to Embodiment06:03 – The Impact of Dance on Self-Connection09:06 – Exploring Different Movement Practices11:57 – Collective Healing Through Movement14:50 – Understanding the Class Structure and Philosophy20:58 – Navigating Pain and Discomfort in Practice24:03 – Liberation Through Movement30:41 – Clairvoyance and Body Awareness34:44 – Cultivating Self-Compassion Through Movement38:17 – The Power of CommunityYou can read the show transcript here. To find out more about Jaycee: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: The Class Experience: Retreats Use code INTHISBODY for 20% off a year of any subscription tier of The Class Digital Studio!Learn more about Ailey Jolie: Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie: Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Substack Experience: Insight Timer Sign up: InBodyMethod Email: [email protected] To follow along with the In This Body podcast: Follow: Instagram Find: Website Email: [email protected]