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2024/07/30
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Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are - some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off. 

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One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 2
2026/02/05
In 1977, Joseph Paul Franklin started his three year killing spree, but he wasn't the only neo-nazi who murdered for the movement that summer.Sources:Sunshine, Spencer. (2024). Neo-Nazi terrorism and countercultural fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege. Taylor & Francis.Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011Gardell, Mattias. “Lone Wolf Race Warriors and White Genocide.” Cambridge University Press eBooks, 2021, https://doi.org/10.1017/9781108609760.Bart Schuurman, Lasse Lindekilde, Stefan Malthaner, Francis O'Connor, Paul Gill & Noémie Bouhana (2017): End of the Lone Wolf: The Typology that Should Not Have Been, Studies in Conflict & Terrorism, DOI: 10.1080/1057610X.2017.1419554Jeffrey Kaplan (2014) Mel Ayton. Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin , Terrorism and Political Violence, 26:5, 855-857 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias
2026/01/30
Molly interviews Christopher Mathias about his new book, To Catch a Fascist: The Fight to Expose the Radical Right. It's a rollicking tale of infiltrating nazi groups and exposing their private communications to dox them en masse.  Preorder Chris' book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767  The article Chris mentioned about Spit & Dan: https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
CZM Rewind: Soldier of Misfortune: Frank Sweeney
2026/01/29
Part One: Frank Abbott Sweeney Jr may be the Forrest Gump of American white supremacy in the 20th century. Starting with a failed bank robbery for the American Nazi Party in the 60s, Frank stumbled his way into being an inconsequential side character in major historical events for decades. Original Air Date: 8.28.24 Part Two: In part two of the life of the Forrest Gump of fascism, Frank Sweeney leads the CIA on an international goose chase, befriends and then betrays a serial killer, and just can't stop committing crimes by mail. Original Air Date: 9.5.24 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 1
2026/01/22
Years before he set off on his three year killing spree, Joseph Paul Franklin left his home in Alabama to attend a nazi conference in Virginia.  Sources: Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011 Belew, Kathleen. Bring the War Home : The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America. Harvard University Press, 2018. Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: Routledge Kaplan, Jeffrey. (2022). No Longer Alone: Lone Wolves, Wolf Packs, and Made for Web TV Specials. In: Perry, B., Gruenewald, J., Scrivens, R. (eds) Right-Wing Extremism in Canada and the United States . Palgrave Hate Studies. Palgrave Macmillan, Cham. Saslow, Eli. Rising Out of Hatred: The Awakening of a Former White Nationalist. Anchor, 2018. Malthaner, Stefan, et al. “Scattered Attacks: The Collective Dynamics of Lone-Actor Terrorism.” Perspectives on Politics, vol. 22, no. 2, Dec. 2023, pp. 463–80. https://doi.org/10.1017/s1537592723002852. Bart Schuurman, Lasse Lindekilde, Stefan Malthaner, Francis O'Connor, Paul Gill & Noémie Bouhana (2017): End of the Lone Wolf: The Typology that Should Not Have Been, Studies in Conflict & Terrorism, DOI: 10.1080/1057610X.2017.1419554 Pantucci, Rafaello. A Typology of Lone Wolves: Preliminary Analysis of Lone Islamist Terrorists. (London: International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation and Political Violence (ICSR), 2011): 14-31. Gardell, Mattias. “Lone Wolf Race Warriors and White Genocide.” Cambridge University Press, 2021. https://georgetownsecuritystudiesreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/NCITF-Final-Paper.pdf https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/movement-and-madman/#part01 https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1969/11/20/november-mobilization/ https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/nixons-secret-plan-for-ending-the-vietnam-war-nuclear-annihilation-of-vietnam/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Cops & Klan
2026/01/15
In 1965, a car full of klansmen shot and killed Viola Liuzzo, a white woman from Detroit who volunteered to drive civil rights activists back to Selma after the march to Montgomery. The FBI immediately kicked into overdrive to drag her name through the mud.Sources:Stanton, Mary. From Selma to Sorrow: The Life and Death of Viola Liuzzo. Athens: University of Georgia Press, 1998Mendelsohn, Jack. The martyrs : sixteen who gave their lives for racial justice. Harper & Row 1966https://www.justice.gov/crt/case-document/micheal-schwerner-james-chaney-andrew-goodman https://famous-trials.com/mississippi-burningtrial/1978-barnetteconfession https://mississippiencyclopedia.org/entries/schwerner-michael/ http://repository.wustl.edu/concern/videos/7p88cm77s https://voicesofdemocracy.umd.edu/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-long-not-long-speech-text/ https://www.cbc.ca/radio/sunday/the-sunday-edition-september-10-2017-1.4280530/daughter-of-civil-rights-worker-murdered-in-selma-on-racism-white-supremacy-and-her-mother-s-legacy-1.4280754 https://archive.org/details/martyrssixteenwh00mend/page/176/mode/2up See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Earl Turner's Diary
2026/01/08
When the man responsible for bombing a federal building in Oklahoma City was arrested, he was carrying a page of his favorite book. The book had been sold at gun shows and in ads in nazi newsletters for years, but suddenly the rest of the country was asking... can a book kill? Sources:Berger, J.M. "The Turner Legacy: The Storied Origins and Enduring Impact of White Nationalism’s Deadly Bible", The International Centre for Counter-Terrorism - The Hague 7, no. 8 (2016).Belew, Kathleen. Bring the War Home : The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America. Harvard University Press, 2018.Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: RoutledgePierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020Martin Durham, White Rage: The Extreme Right and American Politics (newyork: routledge, 2007)Gardell, Mattias (2003). Gods of the Blood: The Pagan Revival and White Separatism. Durham: Duke University Press.Kaplan, Jeffrey (July 2018). "America's apocalyptic literature of the radical right". International Sociology. 33 (4): 503–522Flynn, Kevin, and Gary Gerhardt. The Silent Brotherhood: Inside America's Racist Underground Free Press ; Collier Macmillan, 1989.Michael, George(2003) 'The revolutionary model of Dr William L. Pierce', Terrorism and Political Violence, 15: 3Michael, George(2010) 'Blueprints and Fantasies: A Review and Analysis of Extremist Fiction', Studies in Conflict & Terrorism, 33: 2Griffin, R. S. (2001). The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. 1st Books Library.Cullick, Jonathan S. “The Literary Offenses of a Neo-Nazi: Narrative Voice in ‘The Turner Diaries.’” Studies in Popular Culture, vol. 24, no. 3, 2002, pp. 87–99.https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/guru-white-hate-william-pierce-timothy-mcveigh-831091/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
CZM Rewind: Blood River & Mission South Africa
2026/01/01
Parts 7 & 8 of the South Africa arc. Blood River Original Air Date: 4.17.25 In 2002, a terrorist group failed to assassinate Nelson Mandela. In 2012, a plot to assassinate Jacob Zuma was foiled. Both plots were attempts to fulfill a prophecy and renew a bloody covenant with God. Sources: Thompson, Leonard L. The Political Mythology of Apartheid. Yale University Press, 1986. FA Mouton (1995) F A van Jaarsveld (1922–1995) — a flawed genius?, , 27:1,5-11, DOI: 10.1080/00232089585310011https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00232089585310011  Stephney, Inez Mary.  “Race, History and the Internet: The use of the Internet in White Supremacist Propaganda in the late 1990’s, with particular reference to South Africa”https://wiredspace.wits.ac.za/server/api/core/bitstreams/b04bdabb-ecd9-4f99-a3ae-fff55b88f483/content  Schönteich, Martin, and Henri Boshoff. “Volk”, Faith and Fatherland: The Security Threat Posed by the White Right. Institute for Security Studies, 2003.  Ndlovu, Sifiso Mxolisi. “Johannes Nkosi and the Communist Party of South Africa: Images of ‘Blood River’ and King Dingane in the Late 1920s-1930.” History and Theory, vol. 39, no. 4, 2000, pp. 111–32. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/2678052. http://www.anc.org.za/content/formation-umkhonto-we-sizwe  https://www.sahistory.org.za/people/johannes-nkosi  https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/december-16-reflection-changing-south-african-heritage  https://scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0259-94222024000200001  https://www.iol.co.za/news/rightwing-coup-plot-case-postponed-1491552  https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/battle-blood-river-1838  https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/origins-battle-blood-river-1838 https://web.archive.org/web/20071220164018/http://www2.univ-reunion.fr/~ageof/text/74c21e88-617.html#_ftn13 https://web.archive.org/web/20081217042554/http://history.humsci.ukzn.ac.za/files/sempapers/Adutoit2005.pdf  https://www.litnet.co.za/adriaan-snyman-1938/ https://wiredspace.wits.ac.za/items/a64ddcfc-49eb-4680-b59d-b342d8bc358c  https://www.news24.com/news24/five-boeremag-members-found-guilty-of-conspiring-to-murder-madiba-20150430  https://mg.co.za/article/2004-08-03-boeremag-relied-on-rottweiler-and-kgb/   Snyman, Adriaan. Voice of a Prophet. Vaandel Publishers, 1999.  -- Mission South Africa Original Air Date: 5.1.25 At the end of this miniseries about white supremacist terrorism in the final years of apartheid in South Africa, this episode returns to the present day as white South Africans are lining up outside the embassy in Pretoria to claim refugee status under Trump's executive order. Sources: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-focuses-persecution-claims-white-south-africans-seek-resettlement-2025-04-24/ https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/06/white-afrikaner-donald-trump-america-us-administration https://www.dw.com/en/us-diplomat-ejected-from-new-zealand-after-mysterious-incident/a-38016563 https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_Library/Research/FlagPost/2022/May/diplomatic-expulsions https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/may/24/australia-expels-israeli-diplomat https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59023465 https://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/world/americas/06ecuador.html https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/05/29/so-how-do-you-expel-an-ambassador-anyway/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/addressing-egregious-actions-of-the-republic-of-south-africa/ https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/topic/social/ https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/pool-reports-february-2-2025 https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-press-gaggle-after-air-force-one-arrival-february-2-2025/#15 https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/topic/calendar/ https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-african-party-accuses-white-group-treason-over-trump-attack-2025-02-10/ https://www.enca.com/news-top-stories/ramaphosa-slams-afriforum-solidarity https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-02-13-apartheid-stratcom-agents-trump-edwin-feulner/ https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/oct/24/an-indictment-of-south-africa-whites-only-town-orania-is-booming https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-africas-white-afrikaner-separatists-want-trumps-help-become-state-2025-04-03/  https://laist.com/news/food/milky-way-kosher-restaurant-reopens-steven-spielbergs-mom-la-legendary https://iol.co.za/news/politics/2025-03-17-eff-condemns-us-ambassador-expulsion-vows-to-block-white-supremacist-appointment/ https://www.biznews.com/interviews/2025/02/27/us-ramaphosa-financial-sanction-anc-joel-pollak https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-03-30-new-us-envoy-might-be-even-more-conservative-than-me-joel-pollak/ https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/23/africa/south-african-ambassador-ebrahim-rasool-intl/index.html https://mistra.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/MISTRA-Statement-webinar-Implications-of-changes-in-US-administration-for-South-Africa-and-Africa.pdf  https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-03-18-rasool-diplomacy-and-global-power/ https://www.sajr.co.za/rasools-expulsion-a-crisis-not-a-hiccup/ https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trumps-pick-for-ambassador-to-south-africa-actively-opposed-fight-to-end-apartheid https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/07/14/Foundation-unveils-Contra-commercials/1746553233600/ https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2025-02-19-ernst-roets-leaves-solidarity-movement-to-live-out-his-calling/ https://za.usembassy.gov/u-s-refugee-admissions-program-faqs/  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/30/us/politics/trump-south-africa-white-afrikaners-refugee.html See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
CZM Rewind: The Whites' Last Stand & The Jamboree in Jamba
2025/12/30
Parts 5 & 6 of the South Africa arc. The Whites' Last Stand Original Air Date: 4.3.25 In the final days of apartheid, white extremists were getting desperate. That desperation contributed to one of the strangest political crises of the late 20th century.  Sources: https://dcist.com/story/12/09/24/aryan-nations/ https://archive.idavox.com/index.php/2012/09/24/the-aryan-nations-show-of-farce-in-dc/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naRGivc7Ong Guelke, Adrian. “Political Violence and the South African Transition.” Irish Studies in International Affairs, vol. 4, 1993, pp. 59–68. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/30001810.  https://antifainfoblatt.de/aib24/suedafrika-machtkampf-krieg-auf-kleiner-flamme  https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/white-supremacist-arthur-kemp-steps-leader-neo-nazi-group-national-alliance/  https://www.nytimes.com/1993/06/26/world/white-separatists-storm-south-african-negotiations.html?fbclid=IwAR2oDpPTYh0q173RdYwv5cox59uhpyHBrQdGfC65L22gY7pZAcwbArH8BkI https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/how-the-volk-myth-died-it-took-just-a-few-minutes-to-change-the-course-of-south-african-history-john-carlin-reports-from-mafikeng-1428703.html  https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/amntrans/1998/98092123_mma_mmabath3.htm  https://web.archive.org/web/20140503185912/http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/newsticker/rechte-in-suedafrika-rekrutieren-internationale-soeldner---politikermord-lautet-ein-auftrag-die-killer-kamen-von-der-reeperbahn,10917074,8820188.html https://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/13/world/a-homeland-s-agony.html?sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2  https://mg.co.za/article/1994-06-17-foreign-hooligans-embarrass-awb/ https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/media%5C1997%5C9708/s970821c.htm https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/amntrans%5Cpta/2derby1.htm Death of Apartheid: The Whites’ Last Stand. (1995, May 28). Brian Lapping Associates. --- The Jamboree in Jamba This is the very strange story of the time Dolph Lundgren starred in a piece of apartheid propaganda. Sources: Bellant, Russ. Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party. South End Press, 1991. Abramoff, Jack. Capitol Punishment: The Hard Truth about Washington Corruption from America’s Most Notorious Lobbyist. WND Books, 2011. Easton, Nina. Gang of Five: Leaders at the Center of the Conservative Crusade. Simon & Schuster, 2000. Ivon, David. “Touting for South Africa: International Freedom Foundation.” Covert Action Information Bulletin, 1989. Blumenthal, Sidney (December 1983). "Let Lehrman Be Reagan". The New Republic. Cachalia, Firoz and Mervyn Shear. WITS: A University in the Apartheid Era. Wits University Press, 2022. https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-02-13-apartheid-stratcom-agents-trump-edwin-feulner/  https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-11-13-atrocious-crimes-apartheid-hitmans-brutal-confessions-serve-as-a-warning-for-south-africans/  https://mg.co.za/article/2008-05-29-the-spy-who-lost-it/  https://mg.co.za/article/2001-03-23-the-height-of-hypocrisy/  https://disa.ukzn.ac.za/sites/default/files/pdf_files/SNSep83.pdf  https://www.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/archive-files4/SNNov83.pdf  https://www.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/archive-files4/SNOct80.pdf  https://staging.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/archive-files3/pam19870826.026.009.583.pdf https://antifainfoblatt.de/aib24/suedafrika-machtkampf-krieg-auf-kleiner-flamme https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/48870988/volume-36-number-07-university-of-the-witwatersrand  https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/38832258/volume-36-number-13 https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/06/293602.html?c=on  https://www.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/archive-files2/pam19811200.026.009.580.pdf  https://harpers.org/archive/2008/08/the-wrecking-crew/  https://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/06/world/4-rebel-units-sign-anti-soviet-pact.html https://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/10/world/reporter-s-notebook-angola-s-children-of-war.html https://web.archive.org/web/20060128022735/http://www.alternet.org/story/13134/ https://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAWCHC/1996/3.pdf  https://www.georgeherald.com/News/Article/Local-News/robert-hall-pioneer-in-medical-equipment-dies-20170711  https://mg.co.za/article/1996-04-04-noseweek-case-takes-a-new-turn/ https://www.nonproliferation.org/wp-content/uploads/npr/73gould.pdf https://www.salon.com/2005/08/17/abramoff_2/  https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/09/movies/south-africa-helps-us-film-makers-in-namibia-with-troops-and-trucks.html  https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/case-study/abramoff-lobbying-congress See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
CZM Rewind: The White Wolf & White Guns for Hire
2025/12/25
Parts 3 & 4 of the South Africa arc. The White Wolf Original Air Date: 3.2.25 In 1989, four Afrikaner nationalists and one German mercenary killed a security guard at a United Nations outpost in Namibia. After escaping from custody, they fled home to South Africa.  A possibly non-existent group called The White Wolves took credit for the wave of bombings that followed. Sources: Du Preez, M. (2010). Pale native: Memories of a Renegade reporter. Zebra Press.  Rotberg, Robert (1988). The Founder: Cecil Rhodes and the Enigma of Power. Oxford University Press.  Falkof, Nicky. The End of Whiteness: Satanism and Family Murder in Late Apartheid South Africa. Johannesburg: Jacana Media, 2016. https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-09-09-bruce-and-leonard-a-sad-african-immigrant-tale-of-injustice/ https://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/19/world/outjo-journal-un-namibia-team-makes-some-unlikely-friends.html https://web.archive.org/web/20010429091808/http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/spec/aress14-1.htm  https://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZASCA/1999/72.html  https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/08/11/Gunmen-attacked-a-UN-peace-keeping-force-adminstrative-headquarters-and/6550618811200/  https://ctc.westpoint.edu/the-nexus-between-far-right-extremists-in-the-united-states-and-ukraine/ https://digitalcommons.unomaha.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1043&context=ncitereportsresearch https://web.archive.org/web/20181118212149/https://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/the-day-wit-wolf-turned-pretoria-red-with-blood-18125595  https://www.jordanharbinger.com/bradley-steyn-undercover-with-mandelas-spies-part-one/  https://theafricancriminologyjournal.wordpress.com/2022/02/04/south-africa-the-strijdom-square-massacre/  https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/us-wit-wolf-slaughter-1873433  https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/what-became-of-the-big-wit-wolf-424408  ---- White Guns for Hire Original Air Date: 3.27.25 In 1994, a second group of mercenaries arrived at the airport in Johannesburg... but no one was there to pick them up. Their host had been arrested days earlier, after the last group of mercenaries she'd hosted got into a deadly shootout with the South African police. But how did all these Germans end up in South Africa in the first place? Sources: Simonelli, F. J. (1999). American Führer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. University of Illinois Press. Krott, R. (2008). Save the last bullet for yourself: A soldier of fortune in the Balkans and Somalia. Casemate.  Eisenberg, D. (1967). The Reemergence of Fascism. Barnes. https://balkans.aljazeera.net/news/balkan/2017/11/29/slobodan-praljak-umro-u-bolnici Bartholomäus Grill: German right-wing radicals shoot in South Africa: License plate D. In: Die Zeit . No. 13 , 25 March 1994 Antifaschistisches Autorenkollektiv: Drahtzieher im braunen Netz : Ein aktueller Überblick über den Neonazi-Untergrund in Deutschland und Österreich. Konkret Literatur Verlag, 1996, https://etd.library.emory.edu/concern/etds/jm214q33q?locale=it https://js.emory.edu/news/news-stories-container/Using%20South%20African%20Archives%20to%20Study%20PostWorld%20War%20Two%20Antisemitism%20and%20White%20Supremacist%20Networks.html  https://scholar.ufs.ac.za/server/api/core/bitstreams/c7f1b03d-343d-4abf-bcb3-e508f43dbc90/content  https://antifainfoblatt.de/aib99/dressed-kill Searchlight Magazine, issues July, August, September 1996 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
CZM Rewind: The White House Weighs in on White Genocide & Apartheid International
2025/12/23
For the end of the year reruns, Weird Little Guys is revisiting the longest, strangest story of 2025 - the South Africa arc. Those eight episodes tell the strange story of how one little skinhead rally in California in 2012 connects to a vast international conspiracy to stop the election of Nelson Mandela in 1994. ---- The White House Weighs in on White Genocide Original Air Date: 2.27.25In February of 2012, racist skinheads in California rallied at the capitol building in Sacramento. They were trying to raise awareness for an imaginary problem - an ongoing genocide against white South African farmers. In February of 2025, the President of the United States signed an executive order stripping foreign aid from South Africa as punishment for that same imaginary problem. Sources:Falkof, Nicky. (2022). Worrier state: Risk, anxiety and moral panic in South Africa. Manchester University Press.Whiteness, Afrikaans, Afrikaners: Addressing Post-Apartheid Legacies, Privileges and Burdens. The Mapungubwe Institute for Strategic Reflection (MISTRA), 2018. Holmes, Carolyn. Victimhood for an Audience: Portrayals of Extra-Lethal Violence and their Utility for Self-Identified Victimshttps://static1.squarespace.com/static/5b6672f43c3a5320c2bec900/t/5c98fd14a4222fc0ef950ccd/1553530134194/Victimhood+for+an+Audience+-+March+2019.pdf https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/23/white-farmers-trump-south-africa-tucker-carlson-far-right-influence https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/23/trump-orders-close-study-of-south-africa-farmer-killings https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-staff-usaid-met-group-called-apartheid-so-called-injustice_n_5af5dcb6e4b00d7e4c1a6571 https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/anti-genocide-protests-around-nation-were-organized-neo-nazis/ https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/campus-group-weighs-south-african-violence-targeting-whites/ https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/dangerous-myth-white-genocide-south-africa/ https://africasacountry.com/2018/02/searching-for-white-genocide-in-south-africa/ https://unicornriot.ninja/2018/far-right-racists-push-fake-south-africa-white-genocide-narrative/ https://goodauthority.org/news/misinformation-south-africa-new-land-act-trump-musk/ https://www.jurist.org/features/2025/02/11/explainer-understanding-the-south-africa-land-reform-law-that-provoked-trumps-ire/ https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-fearmongers-about-land-reform-south-africa https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/trumps-south-africa-tweet-tucker-carlson-has-turned-white-nationalist-narrative https://africacheck.org/sites/default/files/Final-Report-Committee-of-Inquiry-Farm-Attacks-July-2003.pdf  https://africasacountry.com/2018/05/flight-of-the-boers https://www.news24.com/News24/afriforums-own-farm-murder-stats-dont-support-their-claims-20180507 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-15/dutton-wants-australia-to-help-white-south-african-farmers/9550050 https://www.news24.com/news24/opinions/analysis/donald-trumps-sa-tweet-how-he-got-the-message-20180823  https://theconversation.com/peter-duttons-fast-track-for-white-south-african-farmers-is-a-throwback-to-a-long-racist-history-93476 https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/22/south-africa-risks-food-shortages-if-white-farmers-go-to-australia-nationals-mp-says https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/27/dutton-should-prioritise-refugees-on-nauru-not-white-south-africans-unhcr-says https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/ramaphosa-hits-back-at-donald-trump-on-land-tweet/ https://www.parliament.gov.za/storage/app/media/Acts/2024/Act_13_of_2024_Expropriation_Act_2024.pdf https://www.enca.com/videos/exclusive-interview-frontrunner-become-us-ambassador-sa-----Apartheid International Original Air Date: 3.13.25In the last episode, we looked at a strange series of rallies held in cities across the United States in 2012 - American neo-nazis were rallying in support of white South African Farmers. But how did they get that idea in their heads? The rallies were put on by a group called The South Africa Project, run by a woman I'd never heard of. Digging into this mysterious South African, I found a lot more than I bargained for - bombings and mercenaries and an international network of fascist terror.Sources:https://www.24sata.hr/news/hsp-as-prisegnuli-na-vjernost-domovini-i-donaldu-trumpu-513281#google_vignette https://balkaninsight.com/2017/02/27/us-condemns-zagreb-neo-nazi-march-for-trump-02-27-2017/ https://www.icty.org/x/cases/naletilic_martinovic/cis/en/cis_naletilic_martinovic_en.pdf https://archive.idavox.com/index.php/2012/09/24/the-aryan-nations-show-of-farce-in-dc/ https://time.com/3927339/dylann-roof-charleston-shooting-flags/ https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,863800,00.html https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/1981/0219/021960.html https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/anti-genocide-protests-around-nation-were-organized-neo-nazis/ Visser, Myda. 1999. University of Pretoria. DIE IDEOLOGIESE GRONDSLAE EN ONlWIKKELING VAN DIE BLANKE FASCISTIESE BEWEGINGS IN SUID-AFRIKA, 1945-1995 Hill, Ray, and Andrew Bell. The Other Face of Terror: Inside Europe’s Neo-Nazi Network. Grafton, 1988. https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/report/finalreport/volume%202.pdf https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/june-16-soweto-youth-uprising https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/apartheid-early-1980s See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Minisode: Reverse Q&A
2025/12/19
In this minisode, Molly highlights a couple of listener answers to questions raised on the show. Most importantly, we finally find out what Dan Burros was watching on TV on November 10, 1962. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Florida Bar v Invictus
2025/12/18
Augustus Invictus has finally been suspended by the Florida Bar for his felony conviction for participating in a nazi torch march in 2017. But when will he actually serve his jail sentence? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Insurrectionist: Tyler Dykes, Part Two
2025/12/11
In 2017, Tyler Dykes marched in Charlottesville. In 2021, he breached the capitol. In 2026, he hopes to win a congressional election.Sources:https://www.postandcourier.com/beaufort-county/politics/tyler-dykes-campaign-sc1-congress/article_c255115c-45cf-430e-b4a4-160a322631e1.html https://www.thenation.com/article/society/givesendgo-crowdfunding-extremism/ https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67681795/united-states-v-dykes/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/17/racist-crowdfunding-campaigns-extremist https://www.mediamatters.org/voter-fraud-and-suppression/far-right-figure-ann-vandersteel-hosts-online-forum-election-denier https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/06/jan-6-prisoners-supporters/ https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/base https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/31/fbi-reveals-items-seized-base-leaders-hate-camp-michigan/4071226001/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/a-leader-of-neo-nazi-terror-group-the-base-was-just-arrested-in-michigan/ https://icct.nl/publication/bordering-hate-strategic-implications-white-supremacist-extremist-travel-between-united https://bridgemi.com/michigan-government/fbi-neo-nazi-leader-sought-white-ethno-state-michigans-upper-peninsula/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/us/fbi-arrests-the-base-michigan.html See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
CZM Rewind: Burning Hate: Tyler Dykes
2025/12/11
This episode originally ran on October 17, 2024. There is a brief new introduction, but it's back at the top of your feed for listeners who didn't catch it the first time around. Today's regular episode picks up where this one left off.Sources:https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-supporters-who-stormed-us-capitol-begin-leave-prison-following-sweeping-2025-01-21/https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-the-arrested-and-their-stories https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-high-water-mark-of-the-jan.-6-prosecutions --------Tyler Bradley Dykes entered a guilty plea last year on the charge of burning an object with the intent to intimidate for his participation in the 2017 nazi torch march in Charlottesville, Virginia. He was sentenced to just six months and was probably expecting to see his parents waiting for him outside the jail on his scheduled release date... but it was the FBI who picked him up.Sources:https://atlantaantifa.org/2023/04/19/inside-southern-sons-active-club-part-i/ https://atlantaantifa.org/2023/04/19/inside-southern-sons-active-club-part-ii/ https://sunlight161.noblogs.org/technology-king-lowcountry-ceo-tyler-dykes-bluffton-sc-marine-nazi/ https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67681795/united-states-v-dykes/ https://the-devils-advocates.ghost.io/burning-hate-bond-review/ https://the-devils-advocates.ghost.io/unite-the-right-marcher-pleads-guilty-to-j6-charges/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/white-nationalist-active-clubs-1234835015/ https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/charlottesville-tiki-torch-rioter-endorses-donald-trump-jan-6-sentenci-rcna162209 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Weird Little Guys 2025 Q&A
2025/12/04
Molly answers your weird little questions and shares her personal conspiracy theory about who tried and failed to assassinate a nazi in 1967. Sources: Donald Horton and Richard Wohl, 'Mass Communication and Parasocial Interaction:Observations on Intimacy at a Distance', Psychiatry 19: 215-29, 1956https://www.participations.org/03-01-04-horton.pdf Nadora, Mikhaela, "Parasocial Relationships with Podcast Hosts" (2019). University Honors Theses. Paper 771.https://doi.org/10.15760/honors.789 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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