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2024/10/16
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2026/11/13
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Whether you are dabbling with the idea of running your first ultra or wanting to figure out how you can push farther than you ever have before, we are here to help you put that plan together. Join ultra runners, Steve and Jeff, as we interview people that are just like you, all with the goal of helping you answer the question, "what does it take?"
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Episode 55: George Gatsios - How do you maximize effort when things get low? Make yourself proud.
2026/11/13
In this episode we talk with George Gatsios, an aerospace engineer and relatively new ultrarunner who went from marathon ambitions to finishing the Mammoth 200 in 66:58:12 (11th overall, 8th male) in the span of a year. George shares how his mountaineering background evolved into trail running, how he managed injury-prone “durability” issues (including torn hip labrums) with cross-training like the StairMaster and fast hiking, and how he trained specifically for Mammoth with progressive volume, elevation targets, back-to-back long runs, strength work, and course scouting. He explains his meticulous “flight test” aid-station checklists, the hip-mobility routine that became a Mountain Outpost livestream talking point (a SpongeBob reference), and the mindset shifts required when severe IT-band/knee pain and sleep deprivation hit mid-race. He also discusses stoicism, pacing discipline, crew alignment, and a potential Kodiak 100 goal to earn a UTMB entry.
Join us and don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start watching, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe.
Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.
Connect with George on IG: @ggatsios_ and on Strava
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 54: Kaylee Fredrick - Proving that age doesn't define you regardless if you are 16 or pushing 90 in the sport of ultra.
2026/10/30
Our guest today has a heck of a resume that includes having run her first 100-miler at 16 and a 200-miler at 17. Kaylee Fredrick became the youngest finisher at the Badwater 135, which she happened to also finish two other times after that, getting progressively faster each time. She represented Team USA at the 24-Hour World Championships, and even though she went in as an alternate, she had the second-most miles for the women for the USA team, recording 147 miles in 24 hours. That's ridiculous. Just recently, she won the Eastern States 100 outright, she was the first time a woman to go sub-24 in that race's history, obviously set the course record with a time of 23:09.
Her story is one of learning about the sport and herself along the way. During her first 100-miler, at mile 93, she found herself lying in the middle of the trail, crying, unable to take another step. Somehow she got back up and finished those final seven miles, and on today's show, we are going to talk about what she's learned about getting through difficult moments, how her training and racing has evolved, and how she balances competing at the elite level with school and also maintaining four jobs. Whether you're preparing for your first 50K or your next 100-miler, there's a lot that we think you can learn from somebody who's experienced both the lowest of the lows and the highest of the highs.
Join us and don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start watching, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe.
Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.
Connect with Kaylee on IG: @frederick.kaylee
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 53: Danielle Fazio - You were capable the whole time
2026/10/16
We are joined by Danielle Fazio on the show this week with a former colleague of Steve's at Fleet Feet Laguna Niguel. Danielle shares how a college triathlon in Mexico and learning to run by taking run/walk trips to Blockbuster video sparked her love of endurance sports, trail running, and ultras. Because yes, we all begin somewhere!
Danielle recounts her early longer efforts like Pikes Peak Marathon, her first 50K at Lake Hodges and then her rapid progression to 100Ks and 100-milers. We dig into the Speedgoat 50K as her lowest moment which was also just a few short months prior to her running UTMB and accepting that one race doesn’t predict another.
Danielle explains how a 2025 stress fracture brought relief, renewed connection through cross-training, and deeper community support leading into Kodiak, where staged mantras and process goals helped her win her age group and earn a UTMB spot. That's right, she went to from run/walks to Blockbuster video to winning a entry into UTMB by her performance at the Kodiak 100.
We talk about UTMB’s demands, travel logistics, aid-station culture, pacing technical terrain, and finishing with the message, “You were capable the whole time.”
The episode has a little bit of everything to help you in your own journey.
Join us and don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start watching, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe. Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.
Connect with Danielle on IG: @danielle.fazio
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 52: Roger Johnson - Fail until you succeed
2026/10/02
On this episode of the podcast we interview Marine Corps instructor and hybrid athlete Roger Johnson, who began endurance sports around age 35 after reading Kelly Starrett’s Ready to Run. Roger shares how military leadership, early-morning routines, and a drive for self-discovery shaped his mindset, plus tactics like mirror reminders and eliminating “options” when the alarm goes off. We talk about his first ultra, chasing resiliency through discomfort, including his experience at the Cherokee 130K and why it didn’t deliver the emotional low he expected and hoped for. Yeah, you read that right. The conversation covers balancing strength and endurance with relatively low running volume, training constraints without elevation, preparing for his first 100-miler (Beast of the East), and how pushing with Ainsley’s Angels changed his definition of success.Join us and don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start listening, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe.
Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.
Connect with Roger on IG: @failuntilyousucceed
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 51: Britney Brugger - We all run for different reasons. But, once you get into ultras, there is no turning back.
2026/09/18
On this episode of the podcast, our guest began running after a health scare and a chronic Lyme disease diagnosis that left her with ongoing leg tingling and nervous system disconnect. Britney shares how she moved from treadmill walk-runs and insecurity about being seen running to embracing the trail community, volunteering with Ontario’s Start to Finish program supporting at-risk kids through running and reading, and rapidly progressing to 50Ks and timed events.
The conversation centers on learning when to push mentally versus when to stop for injury, including her knee pain that altered training and goals. Britney discusses preparing for her first backyard ultra (Bush Bitches Backyard Ultra), her strategy for 50-minute loops, nutrition plans, and lessons from the Tally in the Valley 24-hour event and Sulphur Springs 50K.Join us and don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start listening, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe.
Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.
Connect with Britney on IG: @brritneyb
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 50: JJ Goodrich - In pursuit of setting a course record at Summit 200, getting into Bigs, and on the US 24 hour team.
2026/09/04
JJ Goodrich sets goals. Big goals.
JJ is a UESCA-certified ultra-running coach and ultrarunner, who has raced distances from 50K to 200 miles, timed events, and backyard ultras. The conversation centers on the Summit 200—an alpine, high-altitude 200-miler in Colorado—which JJ says changed him long before race day by pushing him to improve mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.
JJ recounts his 2025 Summit 200 finish (about 90 hours) as a “recon” effort and explains his 2027 plan to chase the 61:42 course record by cutting sleep, minimizing aid-station time, using crew and pacers, and applying segment-by-segment strategy. He also discusses training approaches (strength work, altitude prep, nose breathing, run/walk intervals), his entry into ultras after his father’s death, and joins us for coaches' corner to answer a question on practicing race-morning nutrition for evening trainers
Join us and don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start watching, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe.
Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.
Connect with JJ on IG: @running_chowhound
Connect with JJ on Strava
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 49: Bryan Botma - From 11 NYC Marathons to a First 100-Miler. Discipline, Bonks, and the Tahoe Rim Trail
2026/08/21
We are joined by Bryan Botma, a former basketball player turned runner who is preparing for his 11th New York City Marathon and recently finished his first 100-miler at the Tahoe Rim Trail Endurance Run (25:03, 8th).
Bryan explains why NYC is meaningful to him, including running it with his mom before she later died of cancer, and shares how to get into the race and his goal to become a 15-time “legacy” runner. He describes returning to trails during COVID, running Grand Canyon rim-to-rim-to-rim attempts, and choosing ultras for their uncertainty.
Bryan breaks down Tahoe’s logistics, altitude, heat/cold swings, what went well (training, heat management, no foot issues, nutrition early), what caused his bonk (delayed switch to solid food, hiccups), and how his pacer helped him recover with broth and quesadillas. He also discusses post-race recovery, trail community culture, and plans to run Canyons 100.
Join us and don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start watching, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe. Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.
Connect with Bryan on YouTube
Connect with Bryan on Strava
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 48: Dawn Gwin - Would you sign up for a 100 mile race 5 days in advance?
2026/08/07
Today's guest was recommended to us by one of you! A listener sent in a recommendation for us to interview Dawn Gwin because he admired her toughness and positivity that he saw during the Cowboy 200.
On the show, Dawn talks about how she got back into running ultras later in life because the shorter races left her unsatisfied. We talk about practicing to calm the mind before the race, supporting one anothe during a race, her training with Zach Bitter. Race wise, we dig into the Honey Badger 100 held in Kansas, in July, so yes a hot one, and race that Dawn signed up for 5 days in advance - proving once again to us that we are capable of so much more than our limits tell us.
Join us and don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start , because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe. Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.Connect with Dawn: @coloradorunner60
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 47: Nathaniel Burness - A masterclass in how to cut time in races.
2026/07/24
Nathaniel ran his first marathon as a sophmore in HS with a time of 4:07. He then ran that same marathon year later in 3:07. To top that, he ran his first 50.miler at 18 in a time of 8:41 and then returned one year later and set the course record dropping over 2 hours with a time of 6:17. How? That's what we wanted to know. Join us as we pick the mind of a young Jedi on how he has learned practical fueling strategies, consistency-focused training philosophies, burnout prevention, the Hell Hole 50 miler, and Beast of the East 50 mile course records.Before you hit play, don't forget to hit subscribe and give us a like, before you forget.Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.Connect with Nathaniel on Strava.https://www.strava.com/athletes/93122943
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 46: Alex Minor - Rabid Raccoon Course Record, Black Canyon Lessons, and What It Takes to Run Up Front
2026/07/10
In this episode of the Blueprint to Ultra podcast, Steve and Jeff interview Appalachian trail standout Alex Minor, winner of races like the Hurricane 100K and holder of the Rabid Raccoon 100 Mile course record (15:42:57). Alex shares how he transitioned from road/track running at Marshall into trail ultras during COVID, influenced by training partners like Caleb Bowen and Dan Green. We discuss why the Hurricane 100K looped format and community keep him coming back, and Alex explains how Black Canyon 100K became his lowest—and most educational—race, teaching him to prepare for terrain, build smarter race plans, and dial in fueling. We talk about getting a sodium sweat test, increasing sodium and carbs, and how he balances training (typically 60–80 miles, ~11 hours with vert) while running a shoe store and managing life commitments.Join us and don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start watching, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe. Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.Connect with Alex on IG: @alminor3
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Shop: https://countryroadsrunning.com/
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 45: James Bragg - You have one shot at the race you were training for in a given year.
2026/06/26
Training for an ultra takes a long time and a lot of hard work. We show up for a race and things don't always go to plan. On the show we talk with James Bragg about how we can practice a positive mental attitude, how negativity spreads, and how you can snap out of a downward spiral. As James reminds us, we have one shot at a race. You train for a specific race on a calendar year and that race, in that year, will never happen again. Sure, you can run it again next year, but for this year, the one you trained for, there is one shot. We talk about all of that and dig into the Hellbender 100, Rim to River, and a coaches' corner on how to manage race week and the stupid taper. Join us and don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start watching, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe. Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.
Connect with James on IG: @jamesb__runnin
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 44: Mandy Wainfan - Injured? Whatever you do, just don't tell me I can't run.
2026/06/12
On today's show, we welcome Dr. Mandy Wainfan, a sports-focused chiropractor and endurance running specialist at Performance Place Sports Care, to discuss common running injuries and how to treat and prevent them. Mandy shares how she transitioned from NCAA track and cross country into trail running and ultras, including racing Black Canyon and completing two 50Ks and a 100K.
The conversation covers plantar fasciitis (including true vs nerve-mediated “fake” cases), IT band syndrome, patellar tendinopathy, low back pain, and Achilles tendinitis, with emphasis on load management, hip internal rotation mobility, and strength training. We also discuss when it’s appropriate to keep running, when to seek professional help (especially if symptoms persist beyond 4–6 weeks), and why runners might choose a sports chiropractor versus a PT.Join us and don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start watching, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe. Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.Connect with Mandy
IG: @p2sportscare
Website: https://www.p2sportscare.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Performance-Place-chiropractor
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 43: Josh Coleman - From his first ultra in 2023 to the Triple Crown of 200s, Cocodona, and the importance of always moving forward.
2026/05/29
Josh Coleman’s ultrarunning journey is short, but goes real long. According to UltraSignup, he didn’t even begin running ultras until 2023. Just two years later, he completed the legendary Triple Crown of 200s — finishing the Bigfoot 200, Tahoe 200, and Moab 240 all within the same calendar year. He’s also a Boston Marathon qualifier and recently completed his first Cocodona 250, covering 250 miles across Arizona in 85:53:07 for a 39th-place overall finish.But this episode goes far beyond racing.After losing his wife Erin in a tragic car accident in 2022, Josh turned to running as a way to process grief, honor her memory, and rebuild his life with purpose. He shares that journey in his book, Moving Forward: Running With Grief, where he challenges the idea that we’re supposed to simply “move on” from loss and instead explores what it means to carry love and grief forward together.In this conversation, we dive into the addiction and allure of 200s, Cocodona 250, the mental and physical suffering that ultrarunning takes us through, recovery, resilience, grief and healing, and how running can change you.This is a powerful conversation about endurance in every sense of the word.
Join us, and don't ever forget. You can still learn something from your mom.Don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start watching, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe.
Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.
Connect with Josh on IG: @joshrunadventures
Moving Forward, Running with Grief on Amazon
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 42: Alex Kuhlman - I want to do something that most in that room wouldn't be willing to try.
2026/05/15
Alex decided he wanted to run his first 100 mile race before he had even finished his first marathon. Hired a run coach and started 2026 with two 100s on the calendar. The Zion 100 in April and Javelina 100 in October. We asked him why running a 100 was so important to him and it was simple, unvarnished truth. " I wanted to be confident that, you know, if I was sitting in a room with people, like I did something that most, like everybody in that room wouldn't be willing to try."
We dig into his Zion 100 with what went well and what didn't go as planned, training challenges and the race itself. Then we jump over to taking what he learned from Zion and what he is taking with him to Javelina. The episode is full of a lot of solid tips for you to add to your own blueprint as you are planning your next race. We invite you to listen in.
Join us, and don't ever forget. You can still learn something from your mom.Don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start watching, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe.
Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.
Connect with Alexon IG: @second_half_strong
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
Episode 41: Aaron Fleisher - Yes, you absolutely can finish an entire 200+ mile race, even if you hike the entire thing. Learn how with Aaron.
2026/05/01
Aaron is a thru-hiker-turned-ultra runner who began running in 2022 yet has completed numerous 200+ mile races, including every Cocodona 250. If you have ever considered running a 200 mile race or want to learn secrets on how to, this may be the episode for you. Aaron explains how discovering ultra running on the Pacific Crest Trail and the appeal of aid stations and support drew him from hiking into racing. We dig into the value of being efficient at hiking, how Aaron avoids hallucinations and his sleep strategy to avoid zombie walking. Oh, and day 2 apparently is always the worst day for everyone in a 200.
Join us, and don't ever forget. You can still learn something from your mom.Don't forget to hit subscribe and like. You know, you could subscribe before you even start watching, because if you have read this far, well, we are friends now. So yeah, give us a like and subscribe.
Feel free to reach out to us with any questions you may have. We would love to hear from you.
Connect with Aaron on IG: @mittenmadness
Connect with us on IG: @blueprint_to_ultra
Looking for a coach?
Work with Jeff: https://www.jwultrarunning.com/
Work with Steve: https://www.socalrunnercoaching.com/
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MikeG Runner 2026/10/09
Great perspectives and experiences
The variety of guests from newer ultra runners to more experienced provides nice perspectives to learn from. The hosts ask great questions and are dow...
Dnsjwnsjana s 2025/04/22
Great Show
Sincere guys who care about the runners and the sport. Off to a great start with the new podcast. Have had some very interesting guests so far and I’m...
MEBP 2024/11/16
Honest look at ultras
Love the honesty of the hosts and their guests about running ultras. The hosts are kind and also knowledgeable about the sport. Their guests are inspi...
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