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Tim and Trent were locked in all day for the biggest Saturday of the college football season, and they recorded it live. Indiana was on a bye, but their opponents were not — Big Ten teams went 0-7 on the day. Oregon blew out Ohio State 41-28 in Columbus. Alabama boat-raced Lane Kiffin and LSU 31-13 in Baton Rouge. UCLA beat Minnesota to stay alive in the Big Ten picture. Georgia was running away with Ole Miss. The CFP picture is wide open and Indiana now almost certainly has to win out to control their own destiny. Tim and Trent break down Ryan Day’s seat, the Matt Patricia disaster in Columbus, the Charlie Becker vs. Jeremiah Smith debate, why they were never sold on LSU, what the USC matchup actually looks like with Gary Patterson on defense and Lincoln Riley in the Eastern time zone, and where the Grant Wilson vs. Josh Hoover conversation lands heading into next Saturday. Follow Tim at @TBHoosiers and Trent at @STMcGee on X. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

Listener week is here and the question everyone wants answered: fully healthy Josh Hoover or fully healthy Grant Wilson, who do you start? Tim and Trent go through the data -- the vanishing deep ball, the injury timeline, Cignetti’s own words on Grant Wilson’s standing -- and land where they land. Plus the booing debate, Hoosier Kamish getting blocked by Cignetti (and Tim and Trent calling him live to read him a tweet he can’t see), Bryant Haines NFL poaching fears and a show bet, Big Ten power rankings, and a preview of the weekend’s big games with Indiana at number four in the CFP. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

Ohio State lost to USC on Halloween and Kris Drew at Signal Lost had to film his immediate reaction dressed as Arthur. We had to watch. Tim and Trent react to the Ohio State crashout -- Ryan Day’s ceiling, Arthur Smith being Arthur Smith, Jeremiah Smith’s body language, and what it looks like when a reload-and-win program suddenly can’t do either. We love Kris. Go listen to Signal Lost at Dead Air Sports.

Indiana is 8-1 and heading into the bye week. The offense and special teams were a mess against Minnesota. The clock management was inexcusable. And the Hoosiers still won in overtime with College Game Day in Bloomington. Tim and Trent react to Cignetti’s postgame press conference, break down the quarterback situation, talk Jacob Savage’s emergence, Paddy McIntyre’s 60-yarder, and what needs to get fixed before USC. Tim also sells stock in the coaching staff. Indiana’s defense is carrying this thing -- but for how long? Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

Indiana survives Minnesota in overtime on College Game Day in Bloomington and moves to 8-1. Trent reacts live with Alec Keezer from Indiana at the Voice of College Football -- Josh Hoover’s injury and Grant Wilson’s second-half spark, Cignetti’s late-game timeout decisions, Jacob Savage’s breakout moment replacing Ro Hardy, Charlie Becker’s clutch plays, and the special teams chaos Patty McIntyre bailed out with a 60-yarder. What this team needs to clean up in the bye week and why the Hoosiers are still in the conversation.

Indiana has not beaten Minnesota since 2007. College Game Day is on campus Saturday. So before kickoff, Trent brings in Ross Brendel from the Gophers 101 podcast to debunk — or confirm — every myth about this Minnesota team. Twenty minutes. No prior relationship. Ross showed up ready to go. Is away Minnesota a different team? Yes, confirmed. Is Drake Lindsey a stationary quarterback? Mostly true, but he can move when he has to. Can Minnesota run the ball at all? No, not really — and Ross is the first to admit it. Is Koi Perich regretting his transfer to Oregon? Almost certainly, even if he would never say so publicly. Is PJ Fleck a lifer? Ross makes the case that Fleck and athletic director Mark Coyle are basically attached at the hip, and with each passing year a departure gets less likely. And yes, Minnesota is a hockey school first. A fan-to-fan conversation about what Indiana is actually walking into on Saturday. Follow Ross at @TheRossBrendel on X and find Gophers 101 on all podcast platforms. Subscribe to Kirkwood and Dunn on Spotify and YouTube. Follow Trent at @STMcGee and Tim at @TBHoosiers on X.

Indiana is 7-1, homecoming week is here, College Game Day is coming to Bloomington, and it all starts with Drench Gang. Tim and Trent are in person to break down what is working, what is not, and what it is going to take to get past a Minnesota team Indiana has not beaten since 2007. Nine consecutive losses to the Gophers. The defense is elite. The offense is at rock bottom. Josh Hoover threw eight passes in the second half against Michigan — all of them incomplete — and Cignetti acknowledged the staff was having conversations about the quarterback situation. They get into Tobi Osunsanmi and his case as the best defensive transfer Cignetti has brought in, Indiana’s actual strength of record and schedule strength compared to the national narrative, and the College Game Day announcement. Big Ten power rankings, the UCLA tiebreaker scenarios, MVP picks, score predictions — Tim says 20-0 shutout, Trent says 13-6 — and Tim’s three bets of the week, including the Indiana-Minnesota under 41.5 and Northwestern on the money line at Oregon. Subscribe to Kirkwood and Dunn on Spotify and YouTube. Check out the store for merch. Follow Tim at @TBHoosiers and Trent at @STMcGee on X. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

No Indiana football in this episode. This one is for the Little 500. Trent sits down with Andrew Lee of JetBlach and Emma Nelson of Alpha Chi Omega — the reigning Women’s Little 500 champion — to preview the Bloomington Classic and break down a record-setting Fall Series. Two ITT records broken on the women’s side. Positions two through five reset on the men’s side. And everyone agrees: the field is getting faster every year. The Bloomington Classic is Wednesday, October 28th, 7 to 10 p.m. at Bill Armstrong Stadium in Bloomington. Free admission. First 100 fans get a t-shirt. It is not streamed, so you have to show up. Emma and Andrew break down ITTs, Street Sprints, Cyclocross, and Miss N Out, share what to watch for in a Madison-style race, and make the case for why Fall Series matters as much as the spring races for rider development. If you want to get involved, reach out to teams on Instagram or go through the IU Student Foundation. There is never a wrong time to join. Follow @IUSFLittle500 on Instagram for everything Little 500. Subscribe to Kirkwood and Dunn on Spotify and YouTube. Follow Trent at @STMcGee on X. Bloomington Classic heat sheets and lineup: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1quv091zdlJjcwnUeqsZMG7JVUnBfjV7t/edit?gid=321464541#gid=321464541 Fall Series results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13E1v9irh_t4mIjAhM8zArE9MYrKlWJFrMUYXbrcE1Bc/edit?gid=380697169#gid=380697169

Indiana wins in Ann Arbor for the first time since 1967 and improves to 7-1 — and there are still real questions to sit with coming out of it. Josh Hoover went 8 of 18 for 80 yards, threw his first interception of the year, and Grant Wilson was in the discussion. The offense has no reliable third receiving option, predictable play calling, and an offensive line that needs answers. But the defense? Rolijah Hardy with multiple sacks. Jacob Savage continuing to emerge at linebacker. AJ Harris back and playing at an elite level. Preston Zachman as the run stopper this team needed. Bryant Haines may be coaching a unit better than last year’s championship defense. The rest of college football is falling apart. BYU lost. Ole Miss lost. USC lost at Wisconsin. Indiana is still a top five team with a clear path. The 2025 Miami Hurricanes parallel is real — and you know how that season ended. Minnesota next. Then a bye. Then the run. Subscribe to Kirkwood and Dunn on YouTube and Spotify. Follow Tim at @TBHoosiers and Trent at @STMcGee on X. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

Trent sits down with Ben Buhr, owner of the Sports Bar Westside in Ann Arbor, to debunk the Michigan myths he’s been carrying into game week. Is Tommy Carr just a runner? Is Bryce Underwood the worst NIL investment in the country? Is Michigan’s defense elite or just untested? Ben gives honest answers to all of it — and gives his prediction for Saturday. Ben also moonlights as EDM artist ThrillKill. His debut EP Cyphers is out now on Spotify and Apple Music, with a follow-up EP coming soon. Friday night — live show at the Sports Bar Westside in Ann Arbor at 8 p.m. with Trent, Tim, Galen Clavio, and College Football with Sam. Come out. Follow @STMcGee and @TBHoosiers on X.

Trent is on the ground in Ann Arbor and there is no juice. Michigan fans are flat, Tommy Carr is making his first career start, and the energy heading into Indiana week is just not there. Tim and Trent unpack why — and whether that actually matters on Saturday. The injury report drops mid-episode with Tim and Trent listening live: nobody listed. No Hoover, no offensive linemen, and Khobie Martin expected to be back. About as good as it gets coming out of an Ohio State game. That’s What Cig Said covers Cignetti’s comments on bouncing back mentally, Hoover’s performance, and what it takes to win a road game without beating yourself. Then Tim and Trent work through the Josh Hoover and run game debate, whether Bite Size Bice’s numbers tell the full story, and what Indiana needs to fix before Michigan week is over. MVPs and score predictions are in. Big Ten power rankings updated after a wave of quarterback injuries around the conference — and Tim’s take on Arch Manning to Indiana is a clip waiting to happen. Subscribe and follow @STMcGee and @TBHoosiers on X.

Indiana lost to Ohio State on Saturday. Trent woke up Sunday morning feeling better about this team than he did going into the game. Tim mostly agrees. Tim and Trent break down what the 17-10 loss actually revealed: Indiana held Jeremiah Smith to zero touchdowns — the only team this season to do that — and still lost. The difference was a run game that could not get going against an elite defensive line, a handful of uncharacteristic errors, and a Josh Hoover injury that may carry into Michigan week. They go through what they liked (Amari Farrell’s two picks, Nick Marsh cooking cornerbacks all day, a defensive line that is genuinely building something), what they didn’t (the same formation on every run play, Nico Radichich’s 55-yarder falling short, special teams decisions), and who they are buying and selling stock in heading into the stretch run. Then the full college football Saturday debrief: Notre Dame loses to BYU, Georgia blows a double-digit lead to Auburn at home, Texas falls to Florida, and the SEC’s supposed dominance takes another hit. Plus Big Ten title game projections, what Julian Sayin’s injury means for Ohio State’s season, and a quick preview of what Michigan week looks like. Indiana is 6-1. Michigan is next. Subscribe and follow @TBHoosiers and @STMcGee on X.

Tim and Trent preview the biggest home game in Indiana football history. Episode 166 covers five clips from Curt Cignetti’s press conference this week in the That’s What Cig Said segment — Jacob Savage’s emergence at linebacker, AJ Harris returning from injury, Arthur Smith and the Jeremiah Smith question, Matt Patricia and the Ohio State defense, and Indiana’s missed tackle problem. From there it’s the full preview: how Indiana wins, how Indiana loses, MVPs, score predictions, and the updated Big Ten power rankings with Ohio State and Indiana tied at number one for the first time this season. Both Tim and Trent pick Indiana, but their scores and reasoning are far enough apart that one of them is going to look like a genius Saturday night. Follow Tim at @TBHoosiers and Trent at @STMcGee on X, and grab merch at the Kirkwood and Dunn store. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

Ohio State fans have spent the week telling Trent and Tim they don’t know what they’re talking about. So Trent called in Kris Drew from Dead Air Sports — a Buckeye insider who watches every snap on camera — for a 20-minute rapid-fire fact-check. Trent runs through every preconceived notion he has about this Ohio State team. Kris calls each one true, false, or somewhere in between. No Indiana bias, no sunshine pumping — just an honest breakdown of where this Ohio State team actually is heading into Bloomington on Saturday. Find Kris on X at @KristopherDrew_ and check out Dead Air Sports and the Signal Loss podcast. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠

Ohio State fans flooded the Kirkwood and Dunn mentions this week, and Tim and Trent are welcoming every single one of them. Trent is in his Big Ten championship shirt. Tim placed his Indiana Moneyline bet and a Josh Hoover 40-to-1 Heisman wager before Nebraska even kicked off. Episode 165 opens with a full breakdown of Ohio State’s actual 2026 resume — a win over Ball State, a loss at Texas, wins over Kent State, Illinois, Iowa, and Maryland — and the question nobody in the national media is asking. Then it is the Nebraska postgame. Tim’s biggest problem is the three straight timeouts in the first half and not going for two to cut it to three. Curt Cignetti used the word “conservative” himself after the game. The offensive line could not move anyone and Turbo Richard had 11 yards. On the other side: AJ Harris switching to boundary corner unlocked the defense, Nick Marsh had a 75-yard touchdown and the fourth-and-one conversion, Bryant Haines made the right adjustments, Jacob Savage stepped up as a true freshman on the road, Stephen Daly was everywhere, and Josh Hoover put up 263 yards and two touchdowns with a 94 QBR in the wind. Buy stock: Josh Hoover (Tim) and Indiana defense (Trent). Sell: the offensive line, Cignetti’s road game management, Nebraska’s win streak illusion, and Trent for being wrong about UCLA and Bob Chesney. The Ohio State preview covers Jeremiah Smith’s generational talent, Julian Sayin as a pocket passer with no mobility, Arthur Smith’s three-second offense, and Indiana’s defensive line leading the nation in pressure rate without blitzing. Big Noon Kickoff is coming to Bloomington. College GameDay is not. Overreactions: SEC very flawed outside Georgia and Alabama, playoff Iowa is real, Big Ten second tier emerging, Penn State’s Rocco Becht situation. Kirkwood and Dunn Store TikTok: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify: @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kirkwoodanddunn ⁠ Facebook: ⁠Kirkwood and Dunn⁠