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Point Of The Story

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Sara Joelle
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Date created
2025/01/16
Latest episode
2026/02/05
Average duration
54 min.
Release period
8 days

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Welcome to Point of the Story — the only podcast you won’t have to listen to on 2x speed! Hosted by Sara Joelle — Website Copywriter, Marketing Mentor, Unapologetic Squirrel, and single mom navigating life with ADHD, this show is for the online business girlies, the moms juggling business and babies (and bullshit), and the creative minds trying to balance it all. New episodes every Thursday!

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POV: You Just Became My Copywriting Client — Here’s What Happens Next
2026/02/05
You read my website copy, thought it was funny, decided I was the Website Girl for the job, and now you're wondering… what the hell happens next? I've been offering website copywriting services for six years, but I never really talk about them on this podcast. I reference my newsletter, my teaching, being on other podcasts — but I don't talk about the actual foundation this business was built on. So buckle up, because I'm walking you through my entire process. From the moment you inquire to the moment I send you a present in the mail (but I won’t tell you what it is — you gotta be my client for that), here's everything that happens when you become a BTL client. TOPICS & TANGENTS — The exact 20-step process from inquiry to launch — Why I will absolutely never respond to inquiries with an automated email — The discovery call as more of a vibe check than anything — My Google Doc wireframes — Why zero clients have needed a second round of revisions in four years — Why I’m a hoe for italics POINT OF THE STORY When you work with a copywriter who stalks your Instagram comments, lives in your ideal client's DMs, and treats your brand voice like it's their full-time job, (it’s me, hi!) you get copy that doesn't just sound good but exactly like you. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, Threads, and Substack. — Subscribe to my newsletters Tuesday Table of Contents for one marketing tip, once a week and Millionaire Moment for the insider tea on how I plan to make $1 mil in sales by my 31st birthday. — Check out my website betweenthelinescopy.com. OTHER LINKS — Check out my portfolio — Inquire about my copywriting services — Subscribe to my copywriters-only newsletter, Open Loop — The blog post that inspired this
Everything You Want to Know About Pinterest Marketing with Sarah Burk
2026/01/29
You've been telling yourself you'll figure out Pinterest "later" for how long now? A year? Two? Five? Meanwhile, there are hundreds of millions of people on Pinterest every single month actively searching for the exact content you've already created. And you're letting all those beautiful blog posts collect dust on your website like it’s some kind of digital graveyard! Which is why I sit down with Sarah Burk — Pinterest manager, book hoarder, and the person who's been managing my Pinterest for years (yes, I literally don't even log in) — to talk about why Pinterest isn't just another social media platform and how it makes you money. You’ll learn everything you need to have in place so you don’t waste your time posting fuck-ass pins. TOPICS & TANGENTS — More people should be using Pinterest, but a lot of people shouldn't — Why posting your Instagram reel and linking back to that same reel is pointless — The hot girl with the fuck-ass boyfriend analogy — Pinterest is a search engine, not social media (so you don’t have to create new content for it!) — Board setup 101 — How to write seven pins for one blog post — Why ugly Pinterest pins often work — Sarah's Threads drama POINT OF THE STORY Pinterest is a long-game marketing strategy that works when you have good content to share, somewhere valuable to send people, and the patience to let it compound over time. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 SARAH BURK LINKS — Follow Sarah on Instagram — Check out her website — Check out our Pinterest Blogging workshop — Check out all of Sarah’s important links — Read all about the Threads drama we mentioned here — Sarah’s walkout song BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, a href="https://www.threads.net/@btlcopy?xmt=AQGzSHHYRlGLoOZjkqTGvFjXA_p2Gy0LAkhju3UQlm0JVXA" rel="noopener noreferrer"...
31 Things I Don’t Give a F**k About Anymore at 31
2026/01/22
I almost didn't release this episode because I was worried it was too negative. But then I realized some of you give wayyyy too many fucks about things that don’t matter, and I can't just sit back and let that happen. So here we are — 31 things I've officially stopped caring about now that I'm 31. Some of these I learned this year. Some I've never cared about. And honestly, it was hard to narrow it down to just 31 because there are SO many things I don't give a shit about that I forgot half of them exist. If you're an overthinker, a people-pleaser, or someone who just cares a little too much about things that don't deserve your energy, I recorded this episode just for you. TOPICS & TANGENTS — Thongs (nothing is going in my ass crack, thanks) — Who unsubscribes from my email list or unfollows me — Having a personal Instagram — The opinion of anyone whose life I don't want or views I don't respe — Legal marriage (health insurance and tax benefits aside, what's the point?) — You’re gonna have to listen for the other 26! POINT OF THE STORY You live one life. One little baby life on this floating rock. If something doesn't deserve your energy, stop giving it any. The things you stop caring about make room for the things that actually matter — and trust me, your peace is worth protecting. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, Threads, and Substack. — Subscribe to my newsletters Tuesday Table of Contents for one marketing tip, once a week and Millionaire Moment for the insider tea on how I plan to make $1 mil in sales by my 31st birthday. — Check out my website betweenthelinescopy.com. OTHER LINKS — Sarah Kleist’s To-Done List — Past episode: Follicular Energy, Luteal Doom, and Actually Understanding Your Cycle with Consciously Cait This episode was edited by a href="https://adriennecruz.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer"...
If You Want A Village, You Have To Be A Villager: Here's How To Become One
2026/01/15
A lot of people think to themselves "God, I wish I had a village" while simultaneously doing absolutely nothing to build one. Everybody wants the group chat that's popping off, the neighbors you can borrow eggs from, the friend group that always shows up… But if you want a village, you have to BE a villager first. So I'm breaking down what it means to be a villager, and how I try to be one in my real life. (Example: by hosting my at-home Bean Water Cafe every Tuesday morning, even though I hate coffee). We're talking reach out friends vs. reached out to friends, how to show up for people without making it weird, and why asking for help is actually the most villager move you can make. TOPICS & TANGENTS — Why only children make the best friends (it's a theory, but I stand by it) — The power of small plans: grocery store trips, gym walks, and 15-minute coffee dates — Using Partiful to make literally everything feel like an event — Why you should text people the second you think of them — Being welcoming to everyone, even if they're technically a stranger — The art of inviting yourself to things POINT OF THE STORY If you want a village, you have to be a villager. Stop waiting for community, and start building it yourself! GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, Threads, and Substack. — Subscribe to my newsletters Tuesday Table of Contents for one marketing tip, once a week and Millionaire Moment for the insider tea on how I plan to make $1 mil in sales by my 31st birthday. — Check out my website betweenthelinescopy.com. This episode was edited by Adrienne Cruz. Mentioned in this episode: For $31/mo, get FIVE personal story prompts a month for your newsletter! Sara's Swipe File: A Newsletter Storytelling Subscription
How I'm Making My Golden Year the Best One Yet: The Inside Scoop on My 6-Figure Copywriting Business
2026/01/08
If you want to know what it actually looks like to build a business from $0 to $400K while being a single mom with ADHD, buying a house, surviving multiple rounds of burnout, getting gum surgery (worse than childbirth), launching a podcast, and finally reaching the point where you have everything you ever wanted… This episode is basically my entire business journey in one hour and 15 minutes. I'm taking you through every epilogue and prologue I've written since 2021. We're talking about the messy growth years, the stability years, the peace years, and now — the maintenance year. Because for the first time ever, I'm not chasing anything new. I'm not launching a million things. I'm just existing happily in the life I built, going deeper with what's already working, and finally leaving space for creativity. TOPICS & TANGENTS — 2021: A growth/survival year (international move, divorce, $30K in dental bills) — How I launched Site Series to pay off my periodontist — 2023: The year I saw 9 concerts — My “spending money is an ick” series that took over TikTok — 2024: Energy shift and quantum leaping into my best year — How I went from "I have to survive" to "I have everything I want" — Why 2026 is about doing LESS — The 6 questions I ask myself before making any purchase — My golden year goals POINT OF THE STORY Sometimes the most transformative thing you can do is stop adding new things to your plate and start showing up fully for what you already built. Maintenance is a season too, and it deserves just as much celebration as the hustle years. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, Threads, and Substack. — Subscribe to my newsletters Tuesday Table of Contents for one marketing tip, once a week and Millionaire Moment for the insider tea on how I plan to make $1 mil in sales by my 31st birthday. — Check out my website betweenthelinescopy.com. OTHER LINKS — All my Epilogues: 2021, 2022, a...
How To Have A Balanced, Burnout-Free Year: 7 Themed Days To Add To Your Calendar
2025/12/25
If it's not on the Google Calendar, it doesn't exist. And yes, that includes things like rest, learning, life admin tasks, and frog-swallowing! In this episode, I’m recommending seven themed days you can add to your calendar so you can finally get your life together in 2026. We're talking trash can days (for rotting), back burner days (for all that shit you've been putting off), action days (for finally making your ideas real), and more. I'm also sharing my exact weekly schedule that keeps me from squirreling all over town and, on top of all that, my favorite tools to stay on track. TOPICS & TANGENTS — Back-burner tasks are sapping your energy — Stop letting your ideas die in your notes app — Frog Swallow Day and why Jamie's still driving around with New York plates in Arizona — My 2026 goal of going to all my doctor’s appointments (everybody clap, please!) — My weekly schedule: BTL Mondays, Bean Water Cafe Tuesdays, Client Wednesdays, Call Thursdays, and Fun Fridays — Toggle tracking every second of your whole ass life — Getting a Brick so you stop refreshing Stripe at 10 p.m. — The Siri reminders ecosystem — Why you need a to-do wish list POINT OF THE STORY If you don't schedule it, it won't happen. Balance doesn’t magically appear when you're less busy — it's something you actively create by protecting time for rest, growth, and the things that matter. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, Threads, and Substack. — Subscribe to my newsletters Tuesday Table of Contents for one marketing tip, once a week and Millionaire Moment for the insider tea on how I plan to make $1 mil in sales by my 31st birthday. — Check out my website betweenthelinescopy.com. OTHER LINKS — Feel Good Productivity by Ali Abdaal — Get 10% off Brick — Journal Ecosystem video This episode was edited by Adrienne Cruz. Mentioned in this episode: For $31/mo, get FIVE personal story prompts a month for your...
How to Pivot Your Business Without Burning the Entire Thing Down with Morgan Markowski
2025/12/18
I went to the bank the other day and saw a sign that said "jeans day," where employees pay $5 to wear denim for their eight-hour shift. My first thought was, Thank God I get to decide what I wear and what I do every single day. But just because we chose entrepreneurship doesn't mean everything is peaches and cream. Sometimes, we can feel disconnected from our business, so disconnected that we might be tempted to torch everything and start over. In this episode, I sit down with Morgan Markowski (January Capricorn, eldest daughter, nostalgic photo hoarder, and Metallica fan) to talk about the soft pivot — aka how to evolve your business without burning it to the ground. TOPICS & TANGENTS — How to Marie Kondo your services and stop doing fuck-ass things you don't want to do just because you think you're supposed to — The difference between January and December Capricorns — Why soft pivoting is intentional evolution, not overnight reinvention — Auditing your business for joy — not just money or skill — Why Sara removed copy audits from her offers (even though they sold well) — Building in public vs. transforming in public — How to know if you're being practical or just being a baby back bitch — Can I interest you in a leap of faith? POINT OF THE STORY You don't have to burn your business to the ground to evolve. Give yourself permission to soft pivot. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 MORGAN LINKS — Follow Morgan on Instagram — Check out her website — Grab her freebie, Pivot with Purpose — Listen to her podcast, Dear Creator — Morgan’s walkout song BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, Threads, and Substack. — Subscribe to my newsletters Tuesday Table of Contents for one marketing tip, once a week and a...
How To Name Literally Anything (Even If You’re An Overthinker) by Katie With The Good Names
2025/12/11
If you've been staring at a Google Doc full of business name ideas for the past three months, going back and forth about whether it's too clever or not clever enough, too long or too short, whether the .com is available, and if your mom will like it… This episode is about to save you from yourself. Today, I sit down with Katie from 26&thensome — naming strategist, vintage ad collector, and person who turns ABCs into OMGs for a living. Yes, she literally names shit for people (so I never have to do it again, thank God!!!). TOPICS & TANGENTS — How Katie is never on social media because she's always Bricked — Why your business name doesn't need to say everything at once — Personal brand vs. business name — Why crowdsourcing name opinions guarantees mediocrity — Why Chick-fil-A is objectively a bad name but we don't question it — The church sign that was so confusing Katie couldn't even Google it — The free association naming exercise — Service names: when to go clear vs. clever POINT OF THE STORY Your name doesn't have to do everything. It just needs to be memorable, fit your brand, and have enough context around it (through your copy, design, and how people talk about you) to make sense. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 KATIE LINKS — Follow Katie on Instagram and Threads — Check out her website — Grab her freebie, Name Drop — Get her custom GPT, Name-O-Matic — Subscribe to her newsletter, dot. dot. dot. — Browse her naming services — Blog post: Deciding on your Naming Criteria — Katie’s walkout songs: song 1 + song 2 BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on a href="https://www.instagram.com/btlcopy/" rel="noopener...
Follicular Energy, Luteal Doom, and Actually Understanding Your Cycle with Consciously Cait
2025/12/04
If you've ever scheduled a full day of client calls during your luteal phase, this episode is for you. Or if you've ever thought "I'm so hormonal right now" while on your period (you're literally not btw!), this episode is ALSO for you. In this episode, I sit down with Cait from Consciously Cait — fertility awareness educator and cervical mucus expert — to break down the four phases of your cycle, why your luteal phase isn't actually trying to ruin your life, and how tracking your cycle is so much more than just logging when your period starts in some random, data-hungry app. TOPICS & TANGENTS — Why your period is NOT the main character of your cycle — PMDD vs. regular PMS — Why you need 200-400 extra calories in your luteal phase (and a juicy steak on day one) — Why predictive apps are lying to you — The difference between discharge and cervical mucus (my main takeaway!) — Aligning your business with your cycle: what to do in each phase — How to track your cycle when you have ADHD and forget everything POINT OF THE STORY When you actually understand what's happening in your body during each phase, you can work WITH your cycle instead of against it. And maybe, just maybe, stop planning launches during your luteal phase. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 CAIT LINKS — Follow Cait on Instagram and Threads — Check out her website — Grab her freebie, THE BIG O — Download her cycle tracking spreadsheet — Learn how to confidently chart your cycle and use FAM as birth control in Fam Formul — Cait’s walkout song BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, a href="https://www.threads.net/@btlcopy?xmt=AQGzSHHYRlGLoOZjkqTGvFjXA_p2Gy0LAkhju3UQlm0JVXA" rel="noopener noreferrer"...
Client Experience for Squirrel Brains with Fran from The Passions Collective
2025/11/27
There's no award for "most automated workflows" or "prettiest welcome guide," but there IS a prize for actually enjoying your business. (The prize is enjoying your business!) In this episode, I sit down with Fran from The Passions Collective — client experience architect, Notion queen, and the only person who can make me actually care about conditional logic. Fran's here to tell you that your client experience should support YOU just as much as it supports your clients. We're talking about why doing MORE doesn't make your client experience better, how to figure out what platforms actually work for your brain, and why welcome guides might be the thing secretly sabotaging your process. TOPICS & TANGENTS — Availability vs. capacity: they're not the same thing — Why 40-hour work weeks are b******t and 15-20 hours might be your sweet spot — The difference between automations that help and automations that stress you out — Why you need to ask for feedback even when you think the project was a disaster — Fran's tech stack breakdown POINT OF THE STORY There's no "should" in how you set things up, just what works for your brain, supports your business, and actually helps your clients. Permission granted to make it easier. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 FRAN LINKS — Follow Fran on Instagram and Threads — Check out her website — The Audit (step one to working with Fran) — The Revamp (custom project to revamp your client experience) — Client Experience Intensives (for the DIY-ers) — Check out her Dubsado and Notion templates — Fran’s walkout song BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, a...
How to Remember to Eat Lunch: Squirrel’s Guide to Feeding Yourself with Registered Dietitian Claire Rifkin
2025/11/20
Raise your hand if you've made it to 4 PM before realizing you forgot to eat. Now put your hand down and listen to this episode. Today, I sit down with Claire Rifkin, registered dietitian and breakfast burrito devotee, to talk about something we're all guilty of: skipping meals and wondering why we're so tired all the time. Claire breaks down the actual science behind feeding your ADHD brain and how to stop treating lunch like it's optional. We're talking mechanical eating, food aversions, texture issues, how to feed yourself (and your kids) without attaching morality to every single snack, and basically everything you wish someone had told you about food years ago. TOPICS & TANGENTS — What actually happens when you don't fuel your ADHD brain — Why hyper-focus kills your hunger cues (and what to do about it) — Protein, carbs, fats, and fiber, and what they actually do for you — Why you crave a sweet treat after every meal — Why your kid suddenly hates mac and cheese POINT OF THE STORY If you're not eating, you're literally asking your brain to work on empty, and then wondering why everything feels harder. Treat your meals like the non-negotiable appointments they are, and watch how much better you feel. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 CLAIRE LINKS — Follow Claire on Instagram and Threads — Check out her website — Check out her meal subscription, the Pretty Plates Club — Subscribe to her newsletter — Claire’s walkout song BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, Threads, and Substack. — Subscribe to my newsletters Tuesday Table of Contents for one marketing tip, once a week and a...
How to Expand Your Capacity to Attract More of What You Want with Maia Benaim
2025/11/13
Quick question: How many times are you gonna call in the thing, get the thing, and then immediately fuck it up because your nervous system is like "nope, too much, abort mission"? In this episode, I sit down with Maia Benaim — writer, mentor, expansion queen, and certified neuroscience nerd — to talk about nervous system capacity and why your goals might have hidden agendas. We're getting into the science of why you see color differently than everyone else (spiral warning), why your reticular activating system is the bouncer of your perception, and how Maia went from hoarding Korean face masks to teaching women how to expand their entire lives. TOPICS & TANGENTS — You don't attract what you want — you attract what you're ready to hold — Nervous system capacity as a vessel: why your espresso cup can't hold an ocean — Why jumping from offer to offer is your nervous system running from stability — What if your million-dollar goal is really about feeling lovable? — The power of auto-suggestions and gaslighting yourself into your dream life — Blocking blessings with "must be nice" energy and negative self-talk — How changing your beliefs overnight actually works — The words banned in Sara's house: "I'm bored" and "I can't" POINT OF THE STORY Your nervous system is running the show. When you expand your capacity to hold more — more money, more success, more stability — you stop chasing and start receiving. The version of you that has the thing you want? Start being her right the f**k now! GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 MAIA LINKS — Follow Maia on Instagram and Threads — Check out her mastermind Expansion — Subscribe to her podcast Thought to Thing — Check out her website — Subscribe to her Substack — Maia’s walkout song BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, Threads, and a href="https://btlcopy.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer"...
Should You Display Pricing on Your Website or Not?
2025/11/06
Me if one more person asks whether or not they should put their pricing on their site: 🧍‍♀️➡️🚪➡️🌱😵 (You’ll understand that emoji sequence when you listen!) Look, I get it. I know some of you are asking this genuinely. But also, I know some of you are just rage-baiting me for engagement, and honestly? It's working. I'm MAD. So let's settle this once and for all: Yes, you should absolutely include pricing on your website. I mean, if you care about pre-qualifying your leads, saving yourself time, and only working with clients who actually value what you do! TOPICS & TANGENTS — Why you’re afraid of repelling people who can't afford you — Pre-qualifying leads so you stop wasting time on inquiry emails that go nowhere — Why not including pricing makes you look like you started your business yesterday — The fuck-ass-man theory of client selection — Wedding vendors… we need to talk! — All your objections, debunked: "What if I want to raise my prices?" "What if someone copies me?" "What if the scope changes?" — How to display pricing even if you're scared POINT OF THE STORY Put your pricing on your website. Step into your worth, stop settling for fuck-ass clients, and let your pricing do the heavy lifting so your website can do what it’s supposed to do for you! GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, Threads, and Substack. — Subscribe to my newsletters Tuesday Table of Contents for one marketing tip, once a week and Millionaire Moment for the insider tea on how I plan to make $1 mil in sales by my 31st birthday. — Check out my website betweenthelinescopy.com. OTHER LINKS — My reel of me lying face down on the grass and the inspiration behind it — Past episode: Your Energy is Sabotaging Your Money Goals with Manifestation Coach Jillian...
Everything You Want to Know About LinkedIn with Nicole Marguerite Gray
2025/10/30
When's the last time you logged into LinkedIn? 2016? 2017? The year you stopped working at that soul-sucking job and started your business, only to never think about LinkedIn again? Yeah, me too. And, after talking to today’s guest, I think we might've been missing out! In this episode, I sit down with Nicole Marguerite Gray (yes, we say her full government name every time, and yes, there's a reason) to talk about why LinkedIn isn't just for corporate bros in suits anymore. Nicole's a digital reputation strategist who's been making people look trustworthy on the internet for years, and she's here to convince you that LinkedIn might actually be worth your time. We're discussing spring cleaning your connections, turning your profile into a sales page, posting without the cringe factor, and why you don't technically need a website if your LinkedIn is fire enough. (Yes, she said that to my face. Yes, we made up about it.) TOPICS & TANGENTS — Turning your LinkedIn profile into a sales page — The headline vs. banner strategy that actually works — What the hell to post on LinkedIn and how often — The 11-touch rule for getting noticed — Writing for LinkedIn vs. literally any other platform — Why nobody cooler than you will ever make fun of you POINT OF THE STORY LinkedIn is the only platform where people log in ready to invest in their business. If you’re a person with a point of view, good personality, and an interest in making money, LinkedIn is for you. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 NICOLE LINKS — Follow Nicole on Instagram, Threads, and LinkedIn (obviously!) — Subscribe to her newsletter — Check out her website — LinkedIn Launch Workshop — The LinkedIn Sales Page Workshop — Nicole’s walkout song BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on a href="https://www.instagram.com/btlcopy/" rel="noopener noreferrer"...
The 70-Page Website Project: What's On It & How You Can DIY Your Copy
2025/10/23
Website Girl just launched a 70-page website, and you really thought she wasn't gonna make it the biggest fucking deal ever? I'm breaking down every single page on my brand new massive website (yes, all 70 of them), explaining why I decided to do this in the first place, and teaching you exactly how to DIY your own website copy. Fair warning: I'm about to yap for a while. But if you skip to the DIY section (use the timestamps!), you're gonna miss some important shit about buyer journeys, keyword strategy, and why your website probably needs more pages than you think. TOPICS & TANGENTS — Why Website Girl decided to relaunch a perfectly good website — The 70-page breakdown: core pages, shop pages, freebie pages, and all the hidden backside pages you didn't know you needed — How good websites make you money and bad websites cost you money — The praise folder that'll save your ass when you're stuck writing about yourself — The "if you give a mouse a cookie" approach to planning your website pages — Why you need to stop writing your website in order POINT OF THE STORY Your website is your 24/7 salesperson, your education hub, and your chance to show people how cool you actually are. Set a finish line date, do the easy stuff first, lean on what people already say about you, and get the damn thing done. GIVEAWAY Want a free one-on-one strategy session with me? Go to Spotify and comment on this podcast episode what you loved about the episode, and I’ll enter you to win! Love you, mean it. 🖤 BTL LINKS — Use code "MILLIONAIRE" for $100 off my website copywriting course, Site Series Sprint. — Join the Point of the Story community on Slack. — Leave feedback or episode requests in our Suggestions Box. — To stay up to date with all things Point of the Story, follow on Instagram and Substack. — Follow me on Instagram, Threads, and Substack. — Subscribe to my newsletters Tuesday Table of Contents for one marketing tip, once a week and Millionaire Moment for the insider tea on how I plan to make $1 mil in sales by my 31st birthday. — Check out my website betweenthelinescopy.com. OTHER LINKS — Substack post with links to all the website pages mentioned in this episode! — Portfolio: Food Confidence Portfolio — Portfolio: Peach Perfect Financials —...

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andreashah 2026/01/02
Genuinely useful business advice (at 2x speed)
I know that AI has co-opted the term “no fluff” but honestly, that’s what you get here. A ton of useful tips for running a copywriting business (or an...
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Chelssizzle 2025/12/31
The Squirrel Barbara Walters
Sara is one of the BEST interviewers and hosts in the online entrepreneur space. She asks every guest exactly what you’re thinking, doesn’t gate-keep ...
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KatyJohnson123 2025/11/19
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Mara DMS 2025/04/04
The only biz pod I’ll ever listen to
And I wouldn’t even call it a business pod: it’s so alive. So embodied. Loving it.
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Rpdd22 2025/03/30
Give it a listen, worth your time!
Very authentic, insightful, funny podcast. At a time whe. there are a million podcasts out there it’s nice to come across one that is unique and enter...
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Ann Koppuzha 2025/02/21
The only fun business podcast!
I’ve listened to a lot of business-y podcasts and while some of them are informative none are fun. Except for this podcast. Sara does such a great job...
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marinjohnson 2025/02/21
The only business podcast worth listening to
I’m sure that’s not true but it is in my world. I get excited for Thursdays knowing a new episode is coming. Actionable, NON-FLUFF advice that you sho...
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Caraline J 2025/02/02
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Point of the Story is such a great podcast! Sara is so relatable, real, and funny. She mixes in practical tips and life lessons with her real life sto...
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Loving it!
Sara is fun, light hearted and relatable. The podcast is great and gives you real actionable tips and advice. Can’t wait to listen each week! And yes,...
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