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28 episodes
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Date created
2025/03/19
Latest episode
2026/09/22
Average duration
53 min.
Release period
25 days
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Join Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper for candid, transparent conversations about life in ministry. This is more than sermons and church services—it's the real work of pastoring, the challenges and triumphs, the heart and soul of ministry that happens between Sundays.
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Episode 28: When you're tired OF it, It's time to get away FROM it!
2026/09/22
Pastor Brian Rabon of Hope Chapel joins Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper for an honest conversation about church planting, longevity in ministry, and the importance of rest.
After more than 20 years of pastoring, Brian shares lessons from starting a church with just eight people to reaching a point where he knew something had to change. He discusses how a sabbatical helped him rediscover Sabbath and a healthier rhythm for ministry and family.
From recognizing when you're more than just tired to trusting God when He calls you to step out, this episode is an encouraging conversation about staying focused on the calling God has given you.
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Episode 27: It's Not Your Church | What Every Pastor Needs to Hear
2026/09/08
What does faithful ministry look like across generations?
In this episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper sit down with longtime pastor and ministry leader Bobby Gilley and his grandson, Pastor Adrian Franklin of South Gastonia Church of God.
After nearly 30 years of pastoring the same congregation, Reverend Bobby shares lessons learned through decades of ministry, including the moment God reminded him that the church wasn't his "wagon to pull." His assignment was much simpler: preach, pray, and love, and trust God with the rest.
Pastor Adrian shares what it has been like to follow his grandfather as pastor, honor the legacy of previous generations, find his own pastoral voice, and lead a multigenerational church into the future.
The conversation also explores the loneliness of leadership, building trust through longevity and love, resisting comparison, persevering when ministry gets difficult, and staying faithful to God's calling.
Whether you're beginning your ministry or have served for decades, this episode is a powerful reminder: the church belongs to God. Be faithful with what He's placed in your hands and trust Him with the results.
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Episode 26: Trusting God Through Tragedy
2026/08/28
Evangelists Mike and Jimille Mills join Between Sundays for a powerful conversation about missions, loss, and the faithfulness of God.
They share the story of their son, Mikey, who rededicated his life to Christ while serving alongside his father on a mission trip to Ecuador. What followed was a remarkable transformation as Mikey began sharing his faith and reaching people who had little or no connection to the church. His desire to reach others was captured in one simple request: “Can we do just one more?”
Months later, Mikey was tragically killed in a car accident. As Mike and Jamil walked through unimaginable grief, they began discovering just how many lives their son had quietly impacted, and how his testimony continues to point people toward Jesus.
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Episode 25: Praying for the Impossible | Will Graham
2026/08/14
In this episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper welcome Dr. Will Graham, Executive Vice President of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association.
Will shares stories of God opening doors for the Gospel around the world, reflects on the legacy of his grandfather Billy Graham, and talks about his own journey from local church pastor to evangelist. From seeing lives changed at the “end of the earth” in Ushuaia, Argentina, to praying for opportunities in places that seem impossible to reach, Will reminds us that no person or place is beyond the reach of God.
It’s an encouraging conversation about answering God's call and trusting Him with the harvest.
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Episode 24: When Failure Isn't the Final Chapter
2026/06/20
What happens when a pastor experiences devastating failure, walks away from ministry, and believes his calling is over?
In this deeply personal episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper sit down with Pastor Chad Smith of The Pointe Church in Toccoa, Georgia. What begins as a conversation about church growth and pastoral succession quickly becomes a remarkable testimony of God's relentless grace and restoring power.
Pastor Chad shares the story of a moral failure that led him out of ministry, nearly destroyed his marriage, and left him convinced that God could never use him again. But through the faithfulness of his wife, the prayers of his daughter, and the mercy of God, a new chapter began.
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Episode 23: The Church is NOT the Building
2026/06/01
In this episode of Between Sundays, the conversation travels to Jamaica as the hosts welcome Bishop Roy Notice, National Administrative Bishop of the New Testament Church of God in Jamaica.
Bishop Notice shares the remarkable story of the Church of God in Jamaica, a movement born from humble, persecuted beginnings that has grown into one of the largest and most influential churches in the Caribbean.
The discussion explores revival history, doctrinal integrity, discipleship, Pentecostal identity, and the importance of staying rooted in Scripture amid a culture of competing voices and spiritual confusion. This episode is ultimately a testimony of resilience, faith, and the power of the global Church standing together.
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Episode 22: Lee University, Revival, and the Next Generation
2026/05/08
In this episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper welcome Phil Cook, President of Lee University, for a candid conversation about faith, leadership, Christian higher education, and the move of God among the next generation.
Dr. Cook shares his personal ministry journey, his deep Church of God roots, and how Lee University became a place of healing, calling, and transformation in his own life.
The group discusses why young leaders need safe, Spirit-filled spaces where they can encounter God, grow in their faith, and prepare for ministry and the marketplace.
This episode is a powerful reminder that failure is not the end of the story, calling is greater than career, and God is still raising up the next generation for His purpose.
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Episode 21: When Ministry, Family, and Real Life Collide
2026/04/27
In this special edition of Between Sundays, Lori Lewis, Sandra Livingston, Barbie Cooper, and Sandra Kay Williams speak directly to navigating the demands of marriage, ministry, motherhood, leadership, caregiving, and personal faith. They reflect on the pressures of unrealistic expectations, the challenge of finding balance, the importance of boundaries, and the grace of God that sustains us through every season.
This episode is a powerful reminder that God is faithful, His grace is sufficient, and no season of ministry is lived alone.
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Episode 20: Your Future is Bigger Than Your Yesterday
2026/03/20
In this powerful episode of Between Sundays, the crew welcomes Bishop Ishmael Charles, Field Director for the Caribbean, for a conversation about prayer, missions, mentorship, and the life-changing power of investment in others.
Bishop Charles shares the remarkable story of a prayer movement that began during COVID with a small group on Zoom and has now grown into a global daily gathering reaching 73 countries. What started as a way to keep a local congregation connected has become a years-long outpouring of prayer, worship, testimonies, communion, and ministry that continues every single morning.
This episode is a testimony to what can happen when prayer becomes a priority, when people invest in others, and when the gospel is carried to the nations.
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Episode 19: When Culture and the Gospel Collide
2026/03/04
In this episode of Between Sundays, Mark Williams is joined by Dr. Gary Lewis, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper for a wide-ranging conversation with Dr. Fijoy Johnson: church planter, lifelong Church of God minister, and the newly appointed Director of Intercultural Ministries. Dr. Johnson shares his journey from India to the United States, lessons learned from planting a church while working full-time, and why he believes the future of the Western church is deeply intercultural, rooted in Scripture, love, and representation.
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Episode 18: The Church is in a Discipleship Crisis
2026/02/13
In this episode of Between Sundays, the hosts welcome Pastor Amy McGlamery, co-pastor of North Cleveland Church of God, for a timely conversation about calling, leadership, young adults, and the growing discipleship gap in today’s church. Pastor Amy shares her personal journey—how North Cleveland has been woven into her story for years, and speaks candidly about embracing God’s call, especially as a woman in ministry.
The conversation then turns to what many churches are facing right now: a generation hungry for truth, but living in a culture of biblical innocence and spiritual fragmentation.
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Episode 17: Your Church is Anxious | Here's What they Really Need
2026/01/30
Recorded live at the We Gather weekend on the campus of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta, this special episode tackles a question every pastor faces: How do we lead people through crisis without letting crisis lead the pulpit? From national tragedies to local trauma, the hosts discuss preaching a timely word, resisting “reactive preaching,” and offering a biblical perspective in a world flooded with headlines.
In the second half, the conversation turns to chaplaincy with Army Chaplain Ryan Wood (Lee University & PTS graduate), who shares what ministry looks like on a military installation, especially in the aftermath of an on-base shooting. With honesty and hope, he explains how chaplains bring presence, prayer, and practical care when people are hurting most, and how local churches can better serve military families who are constantly in transition.
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Episode 16: The Season You’re In: How Ministry Families Survive (and Thrive)
2026/01/08
In this special episode of Between Sundays, the hosts are joined by their spouses on the campus of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta, Georgia.
Together, they talk candidly about what it looks like to stay healthy in a 24/7 calling; how they unwind, how they protect marriage and family time, and how they’ve learned to embrace the different seasons of ministry life.
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Episode 15: Preaching Truth in a Feel-Good World
2025/11/10
In this episode of Between Sundays, Pastor Trey Powell shares his incredible journey of returning to pastor the church where he grew up. It's a story of faith, family legacy, and God’s perfect timing. From nearly “burning down the church” in a youth drama to leading that same congregation years later, Trey reflects on God’s preparation through seasons of growth and calling.
The hosts and Trey discuss the deep roots of the Church of God family, the importance of preaching biblical truth, and why authenticity and connection matter more than ever in ministry today. They also share plenty of laughter, from pulpit bloopers to “weird uncles” in the family of faith, and remind listeners that at the heart of it all, it’s about making a big deal out of Jesus.
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Episode 14: Obedience Over Opportunity.
2025/10/17
In this inspiring episode of Between Sundays, the hosts welcome Pastor Brittney Parete of Oak Grove Church of God. Her journey is one of faith, obedience, and courage—answering God’s call amid tragedy and uncertainty.
At just 25 years old, Brittany and her husband Joe stepped into leadership following the unexpected passing of her grandfather, who pastored the church for 36 years. Brittany shares her deeply personal story—how she felt the weight of a mantle during grief, how she battled doubt and cultural resistance as a young female pastor, and how she learned to lead with prayer, fasting, and unshakable obedience.
The hosts reflect on the importance of authenticity in ministry, the danger of self-promotion, and the power of simply being present where God plants you. This conversation is a powerful reminder that God’s anointing is not limited by age, gender, or geography.
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Carl Allen NJ 2025/10/06
Thank you!
Grown weary being a Christian & parent of 3 that was raised in the COG and have a lineage of ministers, living in a world that hates us. Your words, e...
Treadwell82 2025/10/02
So needed!
I’m a new COG ordained Minister and find these podcasts very insightful and helpful!!! Keep em coming!!!
Lorenzo1240 2025/04/30
Excellent podcast!
I’m an ordained minister with the Foursquare denomination, and I appreciate my brothers with the Church of God for Between Sundays. This podcast is li...
KRHerndon 2025/03/22
Awesome!
Great reminders for those in ministry! So good! Can’t wait to hear the rest!
kblack7809 2025/03/21
Encouraging
I’m not a pastor/minister but I have had the opportunity to speak and teach in church. I was reminded that it matters and when God gives you the loave...
pastorjoshp82 2025/03/21
Everything about this.
This is incredibly uplifting and life-affirming for all pastors and church leaders!
PennsylvaniaCOG 2025/03/21
PACOG
So excited about this podcast about real life in real ministry!
Chris Ondrovich 2025/03/21
There is Gold in this conversation!
Loved this conversation between veteran pastors and anointed servants of God. This needs to be heard by all pastors. There is great gold nuggets to be...
MPJ00 2025/03/21
Excellent!
What an encouraging, uplifting and transparent conversation. I know this podcast will be a blessing to everyone who listens.
cpd307 2025/03/21
The Calling, The Challenges, The Journey
Wow! What a great lineup of men who have been there and done that. This was so enlightening, and encouraging. Ministry is full of challenges as we wal...
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