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M-Pesa built mobile money's distribution advantage, but Vodacom's next growth phase depends on far more than cash-in and cash-out. Epimack Mbeteni, Chief Commercial Officer of Vodacom Fintech Group, explains how shared platforms, local execution and sector-specific products support a 103 million-customer business—and why Vodacom wants core and non-core fintech revenue to reach a 50/50 split by 2030. The conversation covers M-Pesa's two failed launches in South Africa, the super-app reset, the Safaricom shareholding change and whether innovation can defend the lead that distribution created.

Kenya has broad financial access and a rapidly expanding digital-credit market, yet only a small minority of adults are financially healthy. Kevin Mutiso, Chairman of the Digital Financial Services Association of Kenya, explains how 2022 regulation unlocked capital, larger loan sizes and specialist lending for traders and boda-boda operators. Samora and Kevin examine the long tail beyond Fuliza and M-Shwari, the data-sharing challenge behind over-indebtedness, and whether digital lenders can help borrowers graduate from short-term liquidity to growth capital.

In 2009, Tayo Oviosu printed a 300-page regulatory application, packed it into a suitcase, and carried it to Abuja because Nigeria had no framework for mobile payments and someone had to ask the Central Bank to write one. Seventeen years later, the lesson he draws is the one most fintech founders still resist: you cannot bank a billion people by building a bank. You bank them by building the infrastructure other people build on. Tayo is the founder and CEO of Paga, one of Nigeria's earliest and most enduring fintech companies, founded when M-Pesa was barely two years old. This conversation is a masterclass in strategic discipline; what Paga chose not to build, and why that restraint is the reason it is still standing. We get into the real economics of agent banking (why roughly 80% of Nigerian agent transactions are cash withdrawals, and what that does to financial-inclusion timelines), why Paga stayed out of the card-gateway war when Paystack and Flutterwave emerged, the AWS/Netflix analogy behind Paga Engine, the Doroki thesis that African retailers need an operating system before they can be banked, and Paga's move into US rails. Through naira devaluations, funding droughts, and the rise of OPay and PalmPay, Paga stayed solvent and stayed focused. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction 10:00 - The suitcase of binders: cold-calling the CBN in 2009 24:00 - Why Paga stayed out of the card-gateway market 33:00 - The 20-year business: real economics of agent banking 40:00 -  "You cannot bank a billion people by building a bank" — the Paga Engine thesis 44:00 - The Doroki thesis: an operating system for African retailers 47:00 - US rails and hosted dollar accounts (Swift, ACH, Fedwire) 51:00 - Three hours to twelve seconds: reconciliation with Claude Code Pinned quote "Revenue is vanity; gross profit pays the bills. We taught our team that everyone acts like an owner and negotiates the best deal for everything, from marketing to supplies." - Tayo Oviosu Connect with Tayo & Paga Tayo Oviosu (LinkedIn): https://www.linkedin.com/in/oviosu/ Paga:https://www.mypaga.com/ Doroki: https://doroki.com/

African traders earn in Europe and pay in China. Stablecoins are finally solving that triangular liquidity gap — and reshaping how Africa-Asia trade finance works. April Long spent thirteen years inside corridor banking — Standard Chartered, Gulf African Bank, and the Africa-Asia fintech ecosystem. She watched the cost of stablecoin liquidity fall from unworkable to roughly 50 basis points round-trip. This episode is her structural explanation of why that shift matters more than most people in African trade finance currently understand. “Money needs to flow in a triangular structure — receiving from Europe, paying to China. Africa lacks a financial hub where money can flow in and out freely. Consequently, money is forced to find fragmented, inefficient ways to flow.” — April Long What You Will Hear: 0:00 - Introduction 07:54 - The Corridor Banking Model. 14:01 - How Off-Ramp Costs Change the Game for Stablecoins 21:00 - The Triangular Liquidity Problem - Who is Africa Selling to and Where Are we Buying From? 28:00 - Compliance as Structural Barrier 33:20 - How Stablecoins Act Like a Financial Hub 37:30 - Why Nigeria Changed First 41:00 - The Velocity Argument — Turning Money Over Fast and How it Grows the Economy 53:09 - The China Shift — Why China-Africa trade grew 18% in 2025 Read by 16,000+ operators, investors, and practitioners across 126 countries. Subscribe: https://frontierfintech.substack.com Samora Kariuki (Host): https://www.linkedin.com/in/samorakariuki/ April Long (Guest): https://www.linkedin.com/in/longapril/ Frontier Fintech: https://frontierfintech.substack.com If this episode was useful, a like or subscription takes four seconds and helps independent media reach more of the right people. The algorithm runs on signals — yours included.

Africa's mobile money networks have over 800 million registered accounts spread across dozens of closed loops. Moving money between them; across borders, currencies, and regulatory jurisdictions, remains the unfinished infrastructure project of a generation. Onafriq was built on the thesis that someone had to connect the dots. Samora Kariuki sits down with Dare Okoudjou, founder and CEO of Onafriq (formerly MFS Africa), the Pan-African payment network that connects mobile money wallets, bank accounts, cards, and now stablecoin rails across 40+ countries. Dare's path is unusual: an engineer who trained at PricewaterhouseCoopers in Paris, helped architect MTN Mobile Money across Africa from 2006 to 2009, and then left to build the interoperability layer he could see the market would eventually require. Sixteen years later, the vision has proven out, though the path there looked almost nothing like the original plan. This conversation is a rare inside account of what it actually takes to build foundational financial infrastructure in Africa. Dare breaks down the layered architecture of cross-border payments (messaging, risk, currency, settlement), the strategic acquisitions of Beyonic and GTP that accelerated Onafriq's enterprise relationships, and why the platform is now placing simultaneous bets on mobile money interoperability, cards, PAPSS, and stablecoins. He also challenges the entire African fintech industry to ask whether mobile money, as currently architected, is still the right model. In This Episode, You Will Hear: The MTN Origin: How Dare helped build the foundations of MTN MoMo across Africa and why that experience made the MFS Africa opportunity obvious in retrospect. The Fax Machine Problem: Why being early to a network business means spending years being nearly useless, and why the goal is simply not to die until the vision comes true. The Remittance Framing Problem: Why calling intra-African cross-border payments "remittances" actively harms how banks, investors, and regulators engage with the industry. The Acquisition Logic: Why Onafriq bought Beyonic and GTP, and what enterprise relationships with banks actually require that organic sales cannot deliver. Payments Always Revert to Standard: Why Dare believes mobile money must achieve GSM-style interoperability or risk being absorbed into the card standard. The Stablecoin Thesis: Why stablecoins are best understood as programmable mobile money for the internet, and why the dollar stablecoin narrative may create systemic risks for African banking systems. If M-Pesa Were Built Today: The sharpest strategic question in African fintech, posed by someone who was in the room when the original was designed. Key Quote: "The goal was simply not to die until it came true." Connect with Us: Samora Kariuki (Host): https://www.linkedin.com/in/samorakariuki/ Dare Okoudjou (Guest): https://www.linkedin.com/in/dare-okoudjou/ Frontier Fintech: https://frontierfintech.substack.com

Valr is Africa's largest crypto exchange by volume, but the business has evolved well beyond exchange. Under founder Farzam Ehsani, Valr now provides modular on-chain financial infrastructure that banks and telcos plug into to offer their own customers crypto exposure, stablecoin savings, tokenised assets, and cross-border settlement. In a sector where reputational risk is the norm, the word that keeps coming up around Valr is "respect." Farzam's path to building it has been circuitous. His family are Bahá'ís of Persian origin who were persecuted in Iran and settled in Nairobi in 1975. He grew up in Westlands, moved through Deloitte in San Francisco and McKinsey in Johannesburg, and joined Rand Merchant Bank during the Greek debt crisis, where he dismissed Bitcoin as a scam before falling into the rabbit hole that led him to set up the bank's blockchain unit and ultimately leave to build Valr in 2018. In this conversation with Samora Kariuki, Farzam covers how Valr was built, why an exchange was the logical starting point, and how the business expanded into institutional infrastructure. He also reveals an unexpected source of conviction: a 1999 Bahá'í document that predicted the replacement of fragmented monetary systems by a single electronic currency, a decade before Bitcoin existed. In this episode, you'll learn: How Farzam's journey from Westlands to Deloitte, McKinsey, and Rand Merchant Bank led to founding Valr. Why an exchange — a marketplace where people express divergent views by buying or selling — was the most logical starting point, and how Valr expanded from there. How Valr's B2B2C model provides modular on-chain financial infrastructure (custody, liquidity, matching engines, risk engines) to institutions across Africa. The concept of double-spending: the foundational problem Bitcoin solves that most crypto commentators never discuss. Why the Bitcoin price is fundamentally a story about fiat devaluation, not market speculation. How a 1999 Bahá'í prophecy about a universal electronic currency — written a decade before Bitcoin — underpins Farzam's worldview on where money is heading. Why stablecoins pegged to the US dollar inherit the dollar's long-term fragility — and what the "free banking era" tells us about what comes next. How fractional reserve banking works identically with Bitcoin, and why crypto doesn't eliminate the risk of bank runs. Why regulatory maturity — not market size — is the key variable in Valr's expansion across Kenya, Nigeria, and beyond. Key Quote: "I can host my files, music, and documents locally on my phone or computer, but I do not have that option for money. I have to rely on someone else's servers to show me my balance on their database." Connect with Us: Samora Kariuki (Host): https://www.linkedin.com/in/samorakariuki/ Farzam Ehsani (Guest): https://www.linkedin.com/in/farzam-ehsani/ Frontier Fintech: www.frontierfintech.substack.com Useful Video on Farzam’s Thinking - https://youtu.be/5lup0b-FWBM?si=juJWtprP2iG8kfni

Banks have spent decades building the infrastructure that makes money move. Now, a new set of rails; blockchain, stablecoins, tokenized assets,  is being laid alongside those systems. The question isn't whether banks will have to engage with digital assets. It's whether they'll do it in time, and whether they'll do it right. Rob Downes, Nkahiseng Ralepeli, and Robyn Lawson lead the digital assets team inside ABSA's Corporate and Investment Bank. Their journey started not with a bold strategic declaration, but with a quiet invitation, Project Khokha, the South African Reserve Bank's blockchain research initiative in 2021. Two weeks after FTX collapsed, they walked into Group Exco to make the case for why ABSA needed to move. This episode is the inside account of what happened next: three years of internal education, regulatory navigation, technical integration, and careful product sequencing that has produced what the team believes is one of the first regulated digital asset custody offerings on the continent and a gold-backed stablecoin built with regulator visibility by design. Samora Kariuki sits down with the ABSA digital assets team to work through what it actually takes for a Tier-1 African bank to build in this space. The conversation covers the internal politics of getting risk and compliance on board, why custody was the right first product, the surprising bottleneck in tech integration, the demand signal they're seeing from institutional clients around tokenized assets and stablecoins, and how they've designed their gold-backed stablecoin to bring regulators along rather than force a confrontation. In This Episode, You Will Hear: Why ABSA started this team in the depths of the 2022 crypto winter and why they called it the "digital assets team," not the crypto team The counterintuitive insight from Robyn: compliance and financial crime were enablers, not blockers, the harder conversation was with tech Why custody was the correct first product: wallet infrastructure as the foundation for every downstream digital asset service How ABSA is thinking about institutional demand from Bitcoin strategic reserves to tokenized real-world assets that generate yield The rich data problem: when you can see a Bitcoin's entire transaction history going back a decade, what does that mean for risk and KYC policy? How ABSA embedded zero-knowledge proofs into its gold-backed stablecoin to serve privacy-sensitive institutional clients The cross-border stablecoin opportunity, and why the CASP regulatory framework in South Africa is creating clarity that other markets lack What expansion across ABSA's African footprint looks like now that the infrastructure is built Key Quote: "The growth in stablecoins, crypto, and financial market infrastructure using blockchain are threats to pan-African and global banks like ours, and we need to respond." — Rob Downes Connect with Us: Samora Kariuki (Host): https://www.linkedin.com/in/samorakariuki/ Rob Downes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-downes-a970931/ Nkahiseng Ralepeli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nkahiseng-ralepeli-46a962a6/ Robyn Lawson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robyn-lawson-online/ Frontier Fintech: www.frontierfintech.substack.com

For an operator moving millions across borders, Stone Atwine has come to understand where there’s real value to be created and where hype dominates. For him, having built his Fintech chops in a Mobile Money region, the value proposition for Stablecoins became evident almost immediately.  Why manage 10 different bank accounts and wait days for SWIFT when you can run a continental treasury from a single USDT buffer? Stone Atwine is a battle-tested fintech veteran who was talking about unit economics long before the "Venture Winter" made it cool. From solving "black tax" remittances for his grandmother to building Eversend on a lean $1.2M seed round, Stone has transitioned the company from a B2C wallet to the high-leverage B2B infrastructure powering African trade. This conversation moves away from the chatter about web3 towards how companies are solving real treasury challenges with stablecoins. Stone breaks down his "4-Level" payment architecture framework, a system that replaces traditional pre-funding with "Just-in-Time" liquidity. He explains why Eversend has completely abandoned SWIFT for internal operations and why the future of money looks like e-money on open rails. In This Episode, You Will Hear: The Death of SWIFT: Why Eversend no longer uses traditional bank messaging for internal treasury. Centralized Stablecoin Treasury: Moving from fragmented local accounts to a single USDC buffer for 30-minute rebalancing. The Settlement Tension: Why "Just-in-Time" instant settlement can sometimes be costlier than traditional netting. Global Use Cases: Why players like Deel and Wise are the perfect fit for stablecoin infrastructure. Evaluating the Stack: What banks need to learn about custodial services like Fireblocks and security audits. The Issuance Arms Race: Why JPMorgan and Citi, not just Tether, could dominate the future of yield-bearing reserves. CBDCs vs. Private Stablecoins: Why the BIS mBridge is a "brilliant idea" but local stablecoin mandates may be the more practical path. "Stablecoins are basically e-money... but with a global ability to move on a blockchain ledger instead of a telco's ledger. It’s just-in-time financing for the real world." Connect with Us: Samora Kariuki (Host): https://www.linkedin.com/in/samorakariuki/ Stone Atwine (Guest): https://www.linkedin.com/in/stoneatwine/ Frontier Fintech: https://frontierfintech.substack.com/

Why does it take five days and $30 to move money from Mexico to the US, or Nigeria to China? In a world of instant communication, the "black hole" of correspondent banking is still swallowing billions in fees and lost time. Kirill Gertmann, CEO of Conduit, is a 20-year fintech veteran who spent years in traditional banking before diving into crypto. After surviving the 2022 DeFi collapse without losing a cent of client funds, he pivoted Conduit from a "yield" platform to a "utility" powerhouse. Today, Conduit is the "Money Movement Operating System" helping businesses and banks bypass the 1970s-era SWIFT architecture. This episode deconstructs the strategic shift from speculative DeFi to practical cross-border execution. Kirill explains the "stablecoin sandwich" model, the reality of "hard mode" jurisdictions, how Africa is likely to be their biggest geography by end of 2026, and why the ultimate "SWIFT killer" isn't a new coin, but a superior distribution network. We explore why Tier 2 banks are the next big frontier for stablecoin adoption and why CBDCs are likely a dead end. In This Episode, You Will Hear: The Pivot: How the 2022 crypto crash forced a move from DeFi yield to solving the "on-ramp" problem in Latin America. The "Stablecoin Sandwich": Why the most successful fintechs abstract crypto away so CFOs only see fiat-to-fiat results. Bypassing SWIFT: Why Tier 2 banks are desperate for an alternative to the "bottleneck" of correspondent banking. The Africa Growth Story: Why Nigeria has a "higher pain point" than Mexico, how partnering with local fintechs scales growth and how Africa will be their largest geography by end of 2026. The Network Moat: Why Tether (USDT) dominates the Global South and why "distribution beats yield" every time. The Compliance Hurdle: How to balance aggressive growth with the "boring stuff" like SOC2 and rigorous KYB. Key Quote: "Most crypto use cases were speculative. We wanted to build something people would actually use every day... The only moat in payments is the network. Visa and Mastercard are successful because of their network and distribution, not secret technology." Connect with Us: Samora Kariuki (Host): https://www.linkedin.com/in/samorakariuki/ Kirill Gertmann (Guest): https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirillgertman/ Frontier Fintech: https://frontierfintech.substack.com/

Why does Nigeria have 120 million people with digital identities but only 70 million with bank accounts? Despite a decade of growth, the "last mile" of financial inclusion remains a stubborn red ocean. Samora Kariuki sits down with Olu Akanmu, a rare leader who has navigated the "commercial battlefield" at the highest levels of telcos, Tier-1 banks, and scale-up fintechs (OPay). From his work with EFInA to his current role in academia at Lagos Business School, Olu brings a balanced perspective on why Nigeria’s fintech journey looks so different from the rest of the continent. This episode is a masterclass in the structural realities of the Nigerian market. Olu deconstructs the "Banking Lobby" that slowed mobile money, the friction between competing national identity systems (BVN vs. NIN), and why the next phase of fintech must move from simple payments to deep credit integration. He also provides a candid critique of "generic" late-stage fintech strategies and the internal politics that kill bank-led innovation. In This Episode, You Will Hear: The Banking Lobby vs. Telcos: A behind-the-scenes look at why mobile money struggled to launch in Nigeria and how fintechs filled the gap.The Prosperity Paradox: Why financial inclusion cannot scale in Northern Nigeria without solving for economic inclusion first.Digital Public Infrastructure (DPI): The missed opportunity of siloed identity and payment systems (BVN vs. NIN).Open Banking & the Credit Gap: Why payments grew 30% but credit only 4%, and how Open Banking can bridge that divide.Late-Stage Consolidation: Why "regulatory arbitrage" is ending and how fintechs must find "uncontested markets" to survive.The "Frigate Elephant" Problem: Why bank-led fintech subsidiaries often fail due to traditional banking mindsets.The "Peak Mobile Money" Myth: Why declining agent revenues are actually a sign of a maturing digital ecosystem. "Strategy begins with looking at your unique capabilities... You cannot come in as a late entrant offering a generic proposition and expect to scale in a contested market." Connect with Us: Samora Kariuki (Host): https://www.linkedin.com/in/samorakariuki/Olu Akanmu (Guest): https://www.linkedin.com/in/olu-akanmu-88280a/Frontier Fintech: frontierfintech.substack.com

Insurance penetration in Kenya has hovered at 2% for decades. Why? Because the industry tries to sell annual policies to people who earn daily wages. It’s a relevance problem, not a demand problem. Bente Krogman didn't start in fintech. She grew up in a German village of 300 people, managed mosquito net logistics in Tanzania, and launched a car wash in Nairobi. That grit led her to found M-Tek, an Insurtech that pivoted from a B2C marketplace to a B2B2C orchestration platform. In 2026, M-Tek was acquired by global Insurtech unicorn Bolttech, a rare and significant exit in the Kenyan tech ecosystem. In this episode, Samora Kariuki sits down with Bente to decode the journey from "idea to exit." They discuss the brutal reality of B2C customer acquisition costs, why "embedded insurance" is the only path to scale, and the specific unit economics that make micro-insurance profitable (hint: it’s not the 10-shilling premiums). In This Episode, You Will Hear: The Origin Story: How running a manual car wash in Nairobi taught Bente the fundamentals of African business. The Pivot: Why MTek moved from a B2C marketplace to a B2B2C "embedded" model to solve the trust deficit. Unit Economics: Why the "middle segment" (500 KES premiums) is more profitable than ultra-micro products. The "Netflix" Problem: Why complex claims processes kill insurance adoption faster than price. Hint - How long does it take to pay for your Netflix subscription that costs the same as a Micro-insurance premium? Partnership Strategy: How to sell to incumbents by focusing on their distribution headaches. The Exit: Inside the acquisition by Bolttech, why it was a "people decision" over a commercial one. Key Quote: "If you cannot explain a micro-insurance product to me in 20 seconds, it is not a product. Just because it is cheap doesn't mean people will buy it if the process is like buying a car." Connect with Us: Samora Kariuki (Host): https://www.linkedin.com/in/samorakariuki/ Bente Krogman (Guest): https://www.linkedin.com/in/bente-krogmann/ Frontier Fintech: https://frontierfintech.substack.com/

Most banks and fintechs misunderstand the problem at the last mile. They build "Supply Chain Finance" to fund invoices, assuming the sale has happened. But Fred Njogu explains that the real problem is the lost sale: the customer is at the counter, the demand is real, but the shopkeeper didn't have the cash that morning to stock the product. The Story: Fred Njogu, COO of Correlaction, is a "reformed engineer" who spent years optimizing distribution for Coca-Cola and Unilever. In this episode, he deconstructs why traditional banking models fail informal retailers and why the solution isn't lending, it's "smoothing the order-to-cash cycle." The Deep Dive: This conversation corrects a fundamental category error. Fred explains that manufacturers (Anchors) don't have a supply chain problem, their distribution is highly organized. The issue is the "Cash Trap" at the retailer level. He details how Correlaction uses data to help merchants "buy what they can sell, not just what they can afford," effectively financing the inventory gap to prevent stockouts. In This Episode, You Will Hear: The "Supply Chain Finance" Misconception: Why the gap isn't about financing the supply chain, but solving the working capital constraint that causes stockouts. The "Look in the Drawer" Moment: The decision-making process of a retailer who has 5,000 shillings but needs 7,000 worth of stock. Order-to-Cash Smoothing: How to design a product that allows retailers to fulfill actual market demand rather than their limited cash capacity. Unit Economics of the Last Mile: Why a $2 order cannot be delivered by a truck, and the specific math of distribution costs. Why Credit Cards Failed: A lesson on why 16-digit cards and 30-minute till processes destroy sales in a high-velocity environment. Monetizing "Idle Assets": Using historical purchase data as "goodwill" to underwrite risk without physical collateral. The "Fragmentation" Trap: Why African markets fragment rather than consolidate, and the economic incentives behind it. Active vs. Passive Distribution: The difference between a wholesaler "sitting on a high chair" and a distributor who controls the outlet. Key Quote:  "The demand is there, and because... you don't have enough working capital, you end up losing the opportunities... It's not really a supply chain finance issue. It's more of a working capital... You can buy what you can sell tomorrow, not buy what you can afford today." Connect with Us: Samora Kariuki (Host): https://www.linkedin.com/in/samorakariuki/ Fred Njogu (Guest): https://www.linkedin.com/in/frednjogu/ Frontier Fintech: www.frontierfintech.substack.com

Why do 30% of transactions in South Africa fail? And more importantly, why do merchants often get nothing but a generic error message when it happens? Jonatan Allback, CEO of Njiapay, joins Samora Kariuki to deconstruct the "black hole" of African payments. The conversation starts with the origin story of Njiapay, originally built as an internal tool to fix low conversion rates for the calling app Talk360. Jonatan breaks down the technical reality of the African payments stack, explaining why "orchestration" isn't just a buzzword, it’s the only way for mid-market companies to navigate the fragmented landscape of gateways, processors, and banks. In this episode, you’ll learn: The 20% Revenue Gap: Why African authorization rates lag behind the global average and how to fix it. The "Waiter" Analogy: A clear definition of the difference between a Gateway, a Processor, and an Acquiring Bank. The Talk360 Pivot: How a consumer app turned their biggest operational headache into a B2B fintech solution. Orchestration 101: Why relying on a single PSP (like Paystack or Peach) often isn't enough for scaling companies. The Fragmentation Trap: Why "Full Stack" control is nearly impossible in Africa, and how to navigate the alternative.

How do you build a lending business for a market traditional banks ignore? You don't start with a banking charter. You start with a catalog. Sean Wibberley, CEO of Weaver Fintech, joins Samora Kariuki to share the incredible story of Finchoice. It’s a journey that starts with Home Choice, a catalog retailer, and a brilliant insight from the founder’s daughter: the company’s database of female customers—who proved they could repay retail credit—was a data goldmine for underwriting personal loans. This foundation evolved into a high-tech ecosystem, supercharged by the strategic acquisition of BNPL leader PayJustNow. Sean explains how this move transformed their growth, turning a low-margin product into a powerful acquisition engine that feeds their entire flywheel. In this episode, you’ll learn: The "unfair advantage" of using proprietary behavioral data over thin credit bureau files. The strategic thinking behind buying a customer acquisition channel (PayJustNow) instead of building one. The staggering unit economics: why a 2-product customer is 8x more valuable than a 1-product customer. How to create a "virtuous flywheel" where cross-selling "opens the jaws" between revenue and cost, improving your entire business.

How do you build an "accidental" career in fintech? Wiza Jalakasi, famously known as "the African fintech guy" and now Director of African Expansion at Ebanx, joins Samora Kariuki to trace his remarkable journey. It's a story that begins with selling games on floppy disks in Malawi, moves through a failed startup, and lands him at the center of scaling both Africa's Talking and Chipper Cash during their hyper-growth phases. Wiza shares the unique "cheat code" that let him spot Chipper's rise, the hard lessons from his first failure, and the self-awareness that has guided his career. This entire journey culminates in his current work at Ebanx, where he's solving one of the most complex, invisible problems in global tech: how do the world's largest companies collect local payments in Africa, and more importantly, how do they compliantly get their money out in USD? In this episode, you’ll learn: How Wiza's early hustles (like selling games on floppy disks) and a failed startup built the foundation for his fintech career. The "cheat code" at Africa's Talking that let him spot Chipper Cash's explosive growth before anyone else. The core problem: Why global brands can't just "plug into" M-Pesa or OPay themselves. The harsh reality of global priorities: why a 2% payment optimization in the US can be worth more than launching in all of Nigeria. The invisible hurdles of cross-border payments: breaking down the hidden pillars of local licensing, tax compliance, and especially treasury (getting USD out). Why Africa's "prepaid psychology" clashes with the subscription models that power the global internet, and how Ebanx solves it. A $10M startup idea Wiza would build today: chargeback automation for African PSPs.