
Advertise on podcast: Fighting Matters
Rating
5from
This podcast has
69 episodes
Language
EnglishPublisher
Fighting MattersExplicit
No
Date created
2025/04/16
Latest episode
2026/02/06
Average duration
63 min.
Release period
7 days
Description
Fighting fascism and the far-right in combat sports like MMA and BJJ.
Unlock Fighting Matters podcast Email contact info,
Listeners & Audience details
Email contact information
Direct podcast contact details

Listeners
Audience numbers & engagement insights

Audience details
Podcast Insights

Podcast episodes
Check latest episodes from Fighting Matters podcast
How the USA is Trying to Steal Canada's Oil
2026/02/06
In this episode of Fighting Matters, hosts Stephan Kesting and Jeff Shaw are joined by Tyson LaRone (The Warrior Philosopher) to unpack the renewed push for Alberta separatism, its connections to Trump and MAGA, and the growing influence of U.S. political forces in Canadian domestic affairs.
🔗 Links Mentioned:
• Fighting Matters Linktree — https://linktree.com/fightingmatters
⸻
👥 Featuring:
• Stephan Kesting — https://www.grapplearts.com
• Jeff Shaw — https://bellinghambjj.com
• Tyson Larone — https://www.tiktok.com/@thewarriorphilosopher
⸻
🧠 Topics Discussed:
• The Alberta Prosperity Project and separatist rhetoric
• U.S. political influence and destabilization narratives
• Economic myths around equalization and the “Alberta advantage”
• Oil, foreign ownership, and who actually benefits
• Grievance politics vs. evidence-based policy
• Why martial arts spaces are vulnerable to political radicalization
⸻
📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Introductions & Alberta separatism overview
01:40 — How real is the threat of separation?
07:20 — U.S. politics, propaganda, and destabilization
12:40 — Economic myths and equalization explained
31:40 — The “Alberta advantage” under scrutiny
52:20 — American corporate interests and oil profits
01:03:00 — Parallels with Ukraine and foreign interference
01:04:50 — Martial arts, gurus, and political influence
How Hate Found a Home in Jiu-Jitsu & MMA
2026/02/05
This interview is an excerpt from Dark Martial Arts History, an 8-part audio documentary chronicling the history and rise of extremism in martial arts like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and MMA. The rest of the documentary is available on BJJ Mental Models Premium, but this piece is relevant to current events, so we're publishing it here for free.
In the sixth episode of Dark Martial Arts History, hosts Ben Van Doren and Eva Schubert are joined by longtime Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu educator and commentator Stephan Kesting. The conversation explores how conspiracy thinking, social-media incentives, and institutional silence have normalized authoritarian and extremist rhetoric within MMA and BJJ. The panel discusses the role of major platforms, the responsibility of fans and businesses, and the challenges practitioners face when harmful ideologies appear inside gyms themselves. Rather than treating extremism as an external threat, this episode asks what the martial arts community has tolerated, and what it must confront moving forward.
Learn from Stephan online at Grapplearts:
https://www.grapplearts.com
Follow Stephan Kesting on Instagram:
https://instagram.com/stephan_kesting
Follow Ben Van Doren on Instagram:
https://instagram.com/deepbluebrazilianjiujitsu
Follow Eva Schubert on Instagram:
https://instagram.com/evaschubert
⬆️ LEVEL UP with BJJ Mental Models Premium!
The world's LARGEST library of Jiu-Jitsu audio lessons, our complete podcast network, online coaching, and much more! Your first week is free:
https://bjjmentalmodels.com
Need more BJJ Mental Models?
Get the legendary BJJMM newsletter:
https://bjjmentalmodels.com/newsletter
Learn more mental models in our online database:
https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database
Follow us on social:
https://instagram.com/bjjmentalmodels
https://threads.com/@bjjmentalmodels
https://bjjmentalmodels.bsky.social
https://youtube.com/@bjjmentalmodels
The collapse of Atos (and what comes next)
2026/02/03
The allegations against Andre Galvao, and subsequent collapse of Atos, have sent shockwaves through the Jiu-Jitsu world. In this episode, Steve Kwan and Jesse Walker unpack the allegations against Atos leadership, the victim statements that triggered a mass exodus, and why this moment feels different from past scandals. We explore abuse of power in martial arts, why competition success can’t excuse ethical failure, and what real accountability could look like, beyond statements and social media posts.
🔗 Links Mentioned:
• Fighting Matters Linktree — https://linktr.ee/fightingmatters
• Fighting Matters Substack — https://fightingmatters.substack.com
• "You’re Picking Your Jiu-Jitsu Gym Wrong" (Jesse Walker) — https://roughhands.substack.com/p/youre-picking-your-jiu-jitsu-gym
⸻
👥 Featuring:
• Steve Kwan — @bjjmentalmodels
• Jesse Walker — @roughhandsbjj
⸻
🧠 Topics Discussed:
• Allegations against Atos leadership and the resulting collapse
• Why this scandal triggered a rapid, unprecedented response
• Abuse of power and hierarchy in martial arts culture
• DARVO, victim silencing, and why convictions aren’t the only standard
• How gyms, athletes, and platforms enable bad actors
• Rethinking what "the best" Jiu-Jitsu gym actually means
• Economic pressure and collective action as accountability tools
⸻
📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Why this episode had to happen
02:45 — Victim statements and breaking news
05:10 — Why this collapse feels different
09:25 — Predators, power, and Jiu-Jitsu culture
15:55 — Choosing gyms: competition vs. ethics
20:15 — Why legal standards aren’t enough
26:18 — Accountability beyond statements
33:10 — Platforms, money, and moral responsibility
43:55 — What real action could look like
47:45 — Where the community goes next
You Can’t "Keep Politics Out" Anymore
2026/01/31
The idea of “keeping politics out” is no longer tenable, especially in Jiu-Jitsu and martial arts communities. Against the backdrop of escalating political violence, institutional breakdowns, and global instability, we explore the civic responsibility of gym owners, coaches, and athletes, and why silence increasingly amounts to complicity.
🔗 Links Mentioned:
• Fighting Matters Linktree — https://linktree.com/fightingmatters
• Fighting Matters Substack — https://fightingmatters.substack.com
• This Is Why We Fight (Jeff Shaw course) — https://bjjmentalmodels.com/fight
⸻
👥 Featuring:
Steve Kwan — https://bjjmentalmodels.com
Stephan Kesting — https://www.grapplearts.com
Jeff Shaw — https://bellinghambjj.com
⸻
🧠 Topics Discussed:
• Why “keep politics out of Jiu-Jitsu” is a thought-terminating cliché
• Political violence, accountability, and the role of video evidence
• Fascism, despair, and overreaction as a martial arts analogy
• Civic responsibility for gym owners and community leaders
• Why neutrality increasingly favors the status quo
⸻
📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Welcome & January 2026 reality check
04:40 — Political violence and media narratives
13:30 — Why apolitical stances are collapsing
24:00 — Global consequences and U.S. credibility
31:00 — “Keep politics out of Jiu-Jitsu” examined
45:10 — Martial arts, pressure, and overreaction
54:40 — What regular people can actually do
57:20 — Final thoughts and calls to action
The Minnesota Shootings and What Comes Next
2026/01/26
Mother, poet, and US citizen Renée Good was shot by ICE on January 7, closely followed by the shooting of ICU Nurse and US citizen Alex Pretti on January 24th, apparently by members of the Border Patrol. Both Renée and Alex were immediately denounced as "domestic terrorists" by the US administration and an army of bots has been circulating a deluge of easily debunkable falsehood about the two victims.
In this episode of Fighting Matters BJJ black belt Stephan Kesting is joined Tyson Larone, the Warrior Philosopher, to explore why this is all happening, who benefits from this, where is it likely to go, and how does it potentially end. We turn over every rock from the Epstein Files to suppressing the midterm elections to World War III.
Follow Tyson on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@thewarriorphilosopher and on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/thewarriorphilosopherig
And please share this episode with someone it would help.
Racism Can’t Be Ignored in Jiu-Jitsu Gyms (w/ Deon Thompson & Stephen Hall)
2026/01/23
Racism, extremism, and exclusion aren’t abstract problems in martial arts. They show up in real gyms, affect real people, and shape who feels safe on the mats. In this episode of Fighting Matters, hosts Mike Mahaffey and Jesse Walker are joined by Deon Thompson and Stephen Hall for a candid, deeply personal conversation about how racism and hate groups intersect with Jiu-Jitsu culture, why “staying neutral” is not an option, and what responsibility coaches carry when they teach people how to fight.
⸻
🔗 Links Mentioned:
• Fighting Matters Linktree — https://linktr.ee/fightingmatters
• Ohio Brasa Jiu-Jitsu (Deon Thompson) — https://ohiobrasajiujitsu.com
• Bioniq Brass Band (Stephan Hall) — https://www.instagram.com/bioniqbrassband
⸻
👥 Featuring:
• Mike Mahaffey — @oldbastardbjj
• Jesse Walker — @roughhandsbjj
• Deon Thompson — @thompsonjiujitsu
• Stephen Hall — @bioniqbrassband
⸻
🧠 Topics Discussed:
• Racism and extremism in Jiu-Jitsu gyms
• Why this isn’t “just politics”
• Gym culture and accountability
• Belt promotions as endorsements of character
• Representation, safety, and who feels welcome
• Why silence enables harm
• The ethical responsibility of coaches
⸻
📖 Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction
02:10 – Why racism in Jiu-Jitsu can’t be ignored
08:30 – Extremist groups and combat sports
16:45 – Gym culture and leadership responsibility
25:10 – Promotions, character, and accountability
34:40 – Representation and who feels safe on the mats
45:20 – Why neutrality enables harm
57:30 – What coaches must be willing to confront
1:08:00 – Final thoughts and closing remarks
This moment feels like the 1930s
2026/01/18
In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan and Stephan Kesting unpack the political chaos of early 2026 and its real-world consequences for martial artists. From international instability and economic shocks to propaganda, media capture, and rising authoritarianism, they discuss why “keeping politics out of jiu-jitsu” is no longer possible... and what individuals can actually do in moments like this.
🔗 Links Mentioned:
• Fighting Matters Linktree — https://linktr.ee/fightingmatters
• BJJ Mental Models — https://bjjmentalmodels.com
• Grapplearts — https://grapplearts.com
⸻
👥 Featuring:
• Steve Kwan — @bjjmentalmodels
• Stephan Kesting — @stephankesting
⸻
🧠 Topics Discussed:
• Why global politics now directly affect martial arts
• Authoritarianism, distraction, and media manipulation
• Economic collapse, inflation, and gym sustainability
• Voting with your dollars and leaving toxic gyms
• Building unlikely coalitions in existential moments
• Why silence and “staying apolitical” is no longer neutral
⸻
📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Opening and Stephan’s rant
03:30 — Distraction politics and global instability
08:20 — Checks, balances, and institutional failure
15:00 — Elections, force, and fear
24:40 — Canada, China, and economic survival
39:00 — Why martial artists can’t ignore this
46:30 — What individuals can actually do
56:10 — Coalitions, Rogan, and strange bedfellows
01:04:40 — Voting with your dollars
01:07:15 — Final thoughts and calls to action
We Must Never Forget January 6th. — Jeff Shaw, Fighting Matters
2026/01/07
BJJ's Best and Worst of 2025
2025/12/30
This episode of Fighting Matters closes out the year with a no-holds-barred look at Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in 2025. The hosts break down the biggest wins, deepest disappointments, and most important moments that shaped the sport—on and off the mats. From cultural flashpoints to genuine bright spots, this is BJJ’s year in review, warts and all.
🔗 Links Mentioned:
• Fighting Matters Linktree — https://linktr.ee/fightingmatters
• Fighting Matters Substack — https://fightingmatters.substack.com
⸻
👥 Featuring:
Steve Kwan — @bjjmentalmodels
Mike Mahaffey — @oldbastardbjj
Jesse Walker — @roughhandsbjj
⸻
🧠 Topics Discussed:
• The biggest controversies in BJJ in 2025
• Sexual misconduct and accountability in the sport
• Extremism, grifters, and bad actors in Jiu-Jitsu
• Disappointments and missed opportunities
• The year’s most positive moments and standout contributors
⸻
📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Intro & framing BJJ’s year in review
02:45 — The worst of BJJ in 2025
18:40 — Accountability, abuse, and culture problems
41:10 — Transition to the best of 2025
46:30 — Positive standouts and hopeful trends
58:40 — Final thoughts and looking ahead to 2026
The relentless bullying of trans athletes
2025/12/18
In this episode of the Fighting Matters podcast, hosts Steve Kwan, Mike Mahaffey, and Jesse Walker confront the relentless bullying and scapegoating of transgender athletes, especially within combat sports. They unpack how bad-faith arguments, misinformation, and moral panic have turned a tiny minority into a political and cultural punching bag, and discuss what gym owners, coaches, and training partners can do to create safer, more inclusive spaces.
🔗 Links Mentioned:
• Fighting Matters Linktree — https://linktree.com/fightingmatters
• BJJ Mental Models (Steve Kwan) — https://bjjmentalmodels.com
• Old Bastard BJJ (Mike Mahaffey) — https://instagram.com/oldbastardbjj
• Rough Hands BJJ (Jesse Walker) — https://roughhandsbjj.com
⸻
👥 Featuring (Hosts):
• Steve Kwan — @bjjmentalmodels
• Mike Mahaffey — @oldbastardbjj
• Jesse Walker — @roughhandsbjj
⸻
🧠 Topics Discussed:
• How trans athletes became a political and cultural scapegoat
• Bullying vs. good-faith discussion around sports and fairness
• Why hate movements target small, vulnerable groups
• Misogyny, fear, and propaganda in combat sports culture
• What gym owners can do to make their spaces safer and inclusive
⸻
📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Why trans athletes are being targeted
03:30 — Scapegoating and bad-faith arguments
07:45 — Why this problem must be addressed by gym culture
13:10 — Sports, fairness, and fabricated moral panics
21:00 — Propaganda, fear, and political exploitation
42:30 — What coaches and gyms can do differently
54:10 — Final thoughts on dignity, accountability, and inclusion
The True Villain in The Boys (And It's Not Who You Think)
2025/12/13
The Fighting Matters crew is joined by Shaun Benson from The Boys to talk about about the show and how it relates to the state of the world right now. Along the way we explore the blurring of lines between credible information and disinformation, the rise of Fascism, and the real bad guy responsible for evil in both The Boys and the real world.
Follow Shaun on Tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@shaunybenso and on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/shaunmbenson/
Craig Jones trolled his way into the NYT
2025/12/03
In this episode of Fighting Matters, Steve Kwan and Jesse Walker talk with writer Adrian Nathan West about his New York Times piece on Craig Jones, exploring how trolling, politics, and culture collide in modern Jiu-Jitsu.
🔗 Links Mentioned:
• The NYT Article — https://nyti.ms/3Y1N6oz
• Nate West’s Website — https://anathanwest.com
• The Baffler — https://thebaffler.com
⸻
👥 Featuring:
Steve Kwan — https://bjjmentalmodels.com
Jesse Walker — https://roughhandsbjj.com
Adrian Nathan West — https://anathanwest.com
⸻
🧠 Topics Discussed:
• Why Craig Jones is a uniquely effective internet troll
• Gordon Ryan’s influence on young grapplers
• How Jiu-Jitsu intersects with politics
• The importance of fact-checking in modern media
• The future of independent journalism
• Whether trolling can actually shift culture in BJJ
⸻
📖 Chapters:
00:00 — Welcome & Introductions
02:00 — How the NYT Article Came Together
06:30 — Craig Jones’ Online Persona
12:45 — Gordon Ryan’s Political Influence
18:00 — Why Athletes Shape Public Opinion
25:10 — Left, Right, and Populism in BJJ
32:00 — Fact-Checking for the NYT
38:30 — The Rise of Independent Media
45:20 — AI’s Impact on Journalism
53:00 — Should We All Be Trolls?
57:20 — Where to Find Nate’s Work
How bad BJJ coaches trap you with rank
2025/11/27
In this episode of the Fighting Matters podcast, hosts Steve Kwan, Stephan Kesting, and Jesse Walker break down how bad BJJ coaches trap students with rank. They explore how belt pressure becomes a tool for fear and control, why some gyms drift into cult-like behavior, and how to spot red flags before you get stuck.
🔗 Links Mentioned:
• Grapplearts Black Friday Sale — https://www.grapplearts.com
• BJJ Mental Models Premium — https://bjjmentalmodels.com
• Rough Hands BJJ — https://roughhandsbjj.com
⸻
👥 Featuring:
Steve Kwan — @bjjmentalmodels
Stephan Kesting — @StephanKesting
Jesse Walker — @roughhandsbjj
⸻
🧠 Topics Discussed:
• How bad coaches use rank as leverage
• Why students feel trapped in toxic gyms
• How cult dynamics show up in BJJ
• When to leave and how to stay safe
• Why character matters more than belts
⸻
📖 Chapters:
00:00 Intro
02:10 Why rank becomes a trap
10:45 When coaches cross the line
22:30 Cult signs inside BJJ gyms
35:40 How to get out safely
47:20 Why character matters most
59:00 Final thoughts and deals
MAGA Needs an Exit Strategy
2025/11/19
In this episode of the Fighting Matters podcast, hosts Steve Kwan, Mike Mahaffey, and Jesse Walker talk about the recent political shift of Marjorie Taylor Greene (MTG) and her public apology regarding her past rhetoric and actions. They explore the implications of her apology, the need for accountability, and the potential for redemption in politics.
🔗 Links Mentioned:
• Fighting Matters Linktree — https://linktree.com/fightingmatters
• Fighting Matters Food Drive (direct link) — https://teamfeed.feedingamerica.org/teams/7625
• Fighting Matters Substack — https://fightingmatters.substack.com
⸻
👥 Featuring:
Steve Kwan — https://bjjmentalmodels.com
Mike Mahaffey — http://oldbastardbjj.com
Jesse Walker — https://roughhandsbjj.com
⸻
🧠 Topics Discussed:
• Marjorie Taylor Greene's recent apology is a rare moment in politics.
• The need for accountability and consequences for past actions is crucial.
• Creating off-ramps for defectors from harmful ideologies is important.
• Empathy and understanding can help bridge political divides.
• Misinformation plays a significant role in shaping beliefs and actions.
• The rise of extremism poses a serious threat to political discourse.
• Finding common ground is essential for moving forward.
• Public apologies can pave the way for political redemption.
• The importance of community initiatives in addressing social issues.
• Engaging in face-to-face conversations can foster understanding.
⸻
📖 Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Light Banter
01:24 Marjorie Taylor Greene's Political Shift
06:15 The Complexity of Apologies in Politics
10:01 Navigating Human Rights and Political Accountability
17:01 The Role of Redemption in Politics
20:58 Consequences and the Future of Political Figures
28:04 The Need for a Reckoning in Politics
35:14 Navigating Extremism and Hate Groups
37:51 The Dangers of Normalizing Hate
39:22 The Complexity of Redemption
41:30 Assessing Paths to Redemption
44:34 Creating Off-Ramps for Extremists
48:42 The Political Landscape Shift
53:16 Finding Common Ground
01:01:28 Community Action and Food Drives
The UFC Betting Scandal, with Luke Thomas
2025/11/07
MMA analyst Luke Thomas joins the Fighting Matters crew to discuss fixing fights in the UFC in particular, and MMA in general. We look at which specific type of fighter is being targeted, who might be behind it, and the role of the FBI in investigating the UFC.
More Luke Thomas MMA analysis on his YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/lukethomas
Luke Thomas gets political: https://www.youtube.com/@LukeThomasGetsPolitical
Follow Luke Thomas on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lukethomasnews
Luke Thomas on Substack: https://lthomas.substack.com/
Podcast reviews
Read Fighting Matters podcast reviews
Biglou502 2025/07/31
More of this!
This is the energy we need more of in this community!
BJJ lawyer 2025/06/08
Thank you!
Thank you so much for putting this out there! We need more of this in the BJJ community, we are not all on the Rogan
to fascist pipeline.
Judokris 2025/05/14
Wonderful podcast
Glad to see there are sane bjj people out there and it’s not just me listening to right wingers in the change room
Dmillls 2025/05/05
Important
These hosts are hearing from all sides, asking questions, and doing research, for real! A thoughtful, if at times impassioned, set of messages.
Podcast sponsorship advertising
Start advertising on Fighting Matters relevant audience podcasts
You may also like to advertise on these Podcasts

4.9134163
Headcanon
James Taylor and Marco Sparks

4.5762723
Today in Focus
The Guardian

4.53222963
Federalist Radio Hour
Radio America

4.7235753
The Shannon Joy Podcast
Spreely Media

4.97941086
Legendary Life | Transform Your Body, Upgrade Your Health & Live Your Best Life
Celebrity Fitness Trainer & Longevity Enthusiast Ted Ryce

4.516950
Criterion Cast: Master Audio Feed
CriterionCast

4.9171135
Intentional Leader with Cal Walters
Cal Walters

4.92601367
The Connected Life
Justin and Abi Stumvoll

4.5167685
Rotoworld Baseball Show – Fantasy Baseball
D.J. Short, NBC Sports, Rotoworld Baseball

4.6163117
Art Grind Podcast
Dina Brodsky, Marshall Jones, Sophia Kayafas and Tun Myaing