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Welcome to the third episode of Think Deep! Season 2 – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for listening, and don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast. In this episode, we head to the Indian Ocean, exploring its depths with special guests Sheena Talma and Dr Anthony Bernard. Sheena and Anthony share how they have been collaborating, developing new tools, and championing local capacity to help democratise deep-sea research in the western Indian Ocean, ensuring that people are part of the solution. They share their experiences exploring the deep ocean and learning what it takes to bring that knowledge into policy and management spaces. If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below: Read more about Anthony’s work with deep-sea landers in these articles – Strengthening Capacity for Deep-Sea Research in the Global South (2025) & SAIAB supports deep-sea cruise to deepen offshore research capacity in South Africa (2023) Learn more about Challenger 150 and Ocean Voices, two UN Ocean Decade-endorsed programmes that Sheena is involved with Follow along with the excitement of the National Geographic and Rolex Perpetual Planet Ocean Expeditions grant that Sheena and Anthony discuss in the episode   Dive into DOSI About DOSI: The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community. If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today. Follow us on social media! Instagram: @deepstewardship Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬ LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible. Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome to the next episode of Think Deep! Season 2 – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for listening, and if you enjoy this episode, remember to subscribe and leave us a rating. In this episode, we’re diving deep into the Southwest Pacific, from the Cook Islands to Fiji, with special guests Alanna Matamaru Smith and Rufino Varea. Alanna and Rufino chat with Michelle about the realities of deep-sea exploration, governance and sustainable management in the region, from the impacts of climate change to the emerging deep-sea mining industry. They share their thoughts on how traditional knowledge is evolving with time and the importance of engaging in multilateral spaces, ensuring that the Pacific has a seat at the table of ocean stewardship. If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below: Alanna and Rufino both work at the intersection of science, community and policy as Directors of local civil society organisations. Learn more about Te Ipukarea Society and the Pacific Islands Climate Action Network (PICAN)  Alanna mentions that the Cook Islands are a 99.99% ocean state – find out how much deep sea is in your EEZ here  Learn more about the Fiji Locally Managed Marine Area Network (FLMMA) for the sustainable management of qoliqoli (traditional fishing grounds)  Championing tomorrow’s ocean change-makers – discover the Ocean Stewardship Award, established by DOSI co-founder Kristina Gjerde and awarded to Alanna earlier this year  Dive into DOSI About DOSI: The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community. If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today. Follow us on social media! Instagram: @deepstewardship Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬ Twitter/X: @deepstewardship LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible. Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897 YouTube Monetization ID: Q02KP5SOQNFBUQF1

Welcome to the first episode of Season 2 of Think Deep! – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for listening, and be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating. In this episode, we travel to the Northeast Pacific to explore the deep ocean between the west coast of Canada and Hawaii. Our special guests, Dr Cherisse Du Preez and Dr Sara Kahanamoku, share their stories and showcase how science and traditional knowledge weave together to tell the story of the deep ocean to inspire stewardship and engagement in the region. If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below: Learn more about the NorthEast Pacific Deep-sea Exploration Project (NEPDEP) that Cherisse leads Read the guidance document for working with Indigenous communities that Sara mentioned and learn more about best practices and guiding questions for reciprocal community-researcher partnerships – Kūlana Noiʻi  Learn more about Motion 32 from the 2025 IUCN World Conservation Congress – Protecting seamounts and vulnerable marine ecosystems from destructive practices, and read the recommendations to the management of seamount ecosystems to the North Pacific Fisheries Commission (NPFC) produced as a result of the DOSI Seamount Science Summit Deepen your knowledge of the region with the recent Challenger 150 review paper on the ‘State of deep-sea science and conservation in the Northeast Pacific: implications for policy and management’ Explore the Papahānaumokuākea National Marine Sanctuary   Find out more about Cherisse’s cool career – People of the Ocean Decade: Dr. Cherisse Du Preez   Dive into deep-ocean stewardship with DOSI  About DOSI: The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community. If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today. Follow us on social media! Instagram: @deepstewardship Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬ Twitter/X: @deepstewardship LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible. Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future. Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

8 regions. 16 special guests across 14 nations. One ocean. This is Think Deep! Season 2 – Deep-Ocean Voices Around the World.   Join us as we uncover the unique deep-ocean challenges, opportunities and connections across different parts of our blue planet. Enjoy this sneak peek, and keep an eye out for Episode 1, coming Monday, 7 September. Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future. Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome to the season finale of Think Deep! and thanks for listening! If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating. In this episode, we are wrapping up the season by reflecting on what we’ve learned and what still lies ahead, with the team behind the podcast. We’re debriefing about all the topics covered in this season and exploring the wider context of deep-ocean governance from the perspectives of three early-career researchers – Dr Elin Thomas, deep-sea scientist and DOSI’s Communication Manager; Eesha Rangani, public policy master student in the Global School of Policy and Strategy at UC San Diego; and Michelle Guraieb, oceanographer and host of Think Deep! Check out the resources below and get involved in deep-ocean stewardship and governance today! Join one of DOSI’s specialist Working Groups or overarching Task Forces – there’s something for everyone, and it’s a great way to get started in the science-policy space.Get involved with YOUNGO (The Official Youth Constituency of the UNFCCC) and RINGO (Research and Independent Non-Governmental Organisations constituency to the UNFCCC) as Eesha suggested in the episode.Check out the Ocean Discovery League website to find out more about their Accessing the Deep training and mentoring programme that Michelle mentioned.Follow along with livestreams of deep-sea research and exploration in action with the Ocean Exploration Trust and Schmidt Ocean Institute – amazing resources that bring the deep ocean directly to you.Subscribe to our weekly newsletter, the Deep-Sea Round-Up, for all the latest deep-sea research, news and opportunities. Finally, if you’re looking for more podcasts about the deep sea or ocean governance, be sure to check out Negotiating the Ocean from the Australian National Centre for Ocean Resources and Security, for conversations with people from all over the world directly involved in international ocean negotiations, and The Deep-Sea Podcast for a punk take on the science with Dr Thom Linley and Professor Alan Jamieson! About DOSI: The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community. If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today. Follow us on social media! Instagram: @deepstewardship Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬ Twitter/X: @deepstewardship LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound and Eesha Rangani. Thank you to our funders, Arcadia, Synchronicity Earth, the Benioff Ocean Science Laboratory, and to the University of Southampton for their support. Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome to the penultimate episode of this series of Think Deep!, and thanks for listening! If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating. In this episode, we discuss the importance of scale in ocean governance with Professor Kerry Sink. Kerry is the marine program manager and a principal scientist at the South African National Biodiversity Institute. We’re so lucky to have Kerry joining the podcast to share her knowledge and experiences in marine spatial planning and the design of marine protected areas. Check out the resources below to learn more about the role of marine spatial planning in deep-ocean governance: Learn more about the Global Biodiversity Framework's ‘30x30’ Target discussed during the episode – an international goal to conserve 30% of the ocean by 2030. The IUCN have created a detailed guide to the target and its implementation, which you can find here. Kerry talks about the importance of engaging with all different stakeholders and the complexities of navigating these relationships. Kerry developed a schematic called the stakeholder onion to illustrate the various stakeholder processes at play. Learn more about the onion and MPA design in this paper. Learn more about Vulnerable Marine Ecosystems – what they are, how they’re identified, and more – from the FAO website. Subscribe to our weekly newsletter, the Deep-Sea Round-Up, for all the latest deep-sea research, news and opportunities. Finally, if you’re looking for more podcasts about the deep sea or ocean governance, be sure to check out Negotiating the Ocean from the Australian National Centre for Ocean Resources and Security, for conversations with people from all over the world directly involved in international ocean negotiations, and The Deep-Sea Podcast for a punk take on the science with Dr Thom Linley and Professor Alan Jamieson! About DOSI: The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community. If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today. Follow us on social media! Instagram: @deepstewardship Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬ Twitter/X: @deepstewardship LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound and Eesha Rangani. Thank you to our funders, Arcadia, Synchronicity Earth, the Benioff Ocean Science Laboratory, and to the University of Southampton for their support. Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome back to Episode 4 of Think Deep!, and thanks for listening! If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating. In this episode, we discuss ocean governance beyond national jurisdiction with international law of the sea expert, Pradeep Singh. Pradeep is also a valued member of DOSI’s Advisory Board and has been involved in ocean governance discussions for almost a decade. We’re grateful to Pradeep for joining us to help break down the various governance systems in place. Check out the resources below to learn more about governance in areas beyond national jurisdiction and the new BBNJ Agreement that Pradeep and Michelle discuss in this episode: Become a member of DOSI’s BBNJ and Marine Genetic Resources Working Groups, and get involved in advancing deep-ocean science in global ocean governance!Watch this short video, produced by DOSI - High Seas, High Stakes: What’s the BBNJ Agreement?Keep track of which countries have ratified the BBNJ Agreement using this tracker from the High Seas Alliance.Find out how much deep sea (i.e. waters deeper than 200 m) is in your country’s Exclusive Economic Zone using this interactive map.Subscribe to our weekly newsletter, the Deep-Sea Round-Up, for all the latest deep-sea research, news and opportunities. Finally, if you’re a fan of the deep sea and want to dive deeper, be sure to check out The Deep-Sea Podcast for a punk take on the science with Dr Thom Linley and Professor Alan Jamieson! About DOSI: The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community. If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today. Follow us on social media! Instagram: @deepstewardship Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬ Twitter/X: @deepstewardship LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound and Eesha Rangani. Thank you to our funders, Arcadia, Synchronicity Earth, the Benioff Ocean Science Laboratory, and to the University of Southampton for their support. Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome back for another episode of Think Deep!, and thanks for listening! If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating. In the third episode of this series, we explore all things climate with Dr Natalya Gallo. Natalya is a Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of Bergen in Norway and an expert in deep-ocean science and climate governance. It’s wonderful to have Natalya as our guest for this episode to share her experience of working in this critical research and policy space. If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below: Become a member of DOSI’s Climate Change Working Group and get involved in advancing deep-ocean science in climate policy! As Natalya mentioned, you can sign up for the Earth Negotiation Bulletin newsletter here for free reports, analyses, and multimedia on global negotiations on climate change and more. Register for the UNFCCC COP30 Brazil Virtual Ocean Pavilion. In the episode, Natalya summarises the DOSI Policy Brief on deep-ocean knowledge gaps in the IPCC Assessment Reports - read the brief in full here. Check out the Global Ocean Forum and the Ocean and Climate Platform. Finally, if you’re a fan of the deep sea and want to dive deeper, be sure to check out The Deep-Sea Podcast for a punk take on the science with Dr Thom Linley and Professor Alan Jamieson! About DOSI: The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community. If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today. Follow us on social media! Instagram: @deepstewardship Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬ Twitter/X: @deepstewardship LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound and Eesha Rangani. Thank you to our funders, Arcadia, Synchronicity Earth, the Benioff Ocean Science Laboratory, and to the University of Southampton for their support. Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome to the next episode of our new series, and thanks for listening! If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating. In this episode, we dive into the topic of deep-sea biodiversity and its stewardship with Anna Metaxas. Anna is a Professor at Dalhousie University in Nova Scotia, Canada, and one of the co-leads of DOSI’s Biodiversity Task Force. As you’ll hear in this episode, Anna is working at the forefront of marine biodiversity research and conservation, and we’re so grateful to have her on the podcast to share her fascinating stories and compelling insights with us! If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below: Watch this short video – Deep-Sea Biodiversity: How Do We Protect It? – for beautiful footage of the deep sea’s remarkable biodiversity, and to hear more about DOSI's dedicated Biodiversity Task Force, which Anna co-leads.As Anna mentioned, you can subscribe to our weekly newsletter, the Deep-Sea Round-Up, for all the latest deep-sea research, news and opportunities.Learn more about the Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD), including its history, decisions and programmes.Read DOSI’s statement for the 2025 International Day for Biodiversity along with statements from other parties and partners on the CBD website.Learn more about IPBES – the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services – and how you can get involved in supporting decision-making for the conservation and sustainable use of biodiversity.In the episode, Anna and Michelle discuss the interconnectedness of global issues and the importance of a nexus approach. Read more about how we can align environmental policy actions in this new DOSI Policy Brief: Aligning climate and biodiversity action in the deep ocean to protect the planet. About DOSI: The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community. If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today. Follow us on social media! Instagram: @deepstewardship Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬ Twitter/X: @deepstewardship Linkedin: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound and Eesha Rangani. Thank you to our funders, Arcadia, Synchronicity Earth, the Benioff Ocean Science Laboratory, and to the University of Southampton for their support. Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897 YouTube Monetization ID: Q02KP5SOQNFBUQF1

Welcome to the first episode of our new series, and thanks for listening! If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating. In this episode, we discover the story behind deep-ocean governance – what this is, how it’s done, and why it matters – with Jon Copley. Jon is a Professor of Ocean Exploration and Science Communication at the University of Southampton and one of our valued Advisory Board members at DOSI. As you’ll hear in this episode, Jon has decades of experience exploring and researching the deep sea, and we’re so grateful to have him on the podcast to share his insightful views on deep-ocean governance with us! If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below: Read more about how connected we are to the deep ocean in our Policy Brief: What does the deep-ocean do for you? Now also available in French and Spanish, with other languages coming soon!Check out the UN’s official overview of UNCLOS. This text breaks down the key elements of the treaty, including territorial waters, exclusive economic zones (EEZs), and the responsibilities of nations when it comes to protecting and using ocean resources.The UN Oceans and the Law of the Sea page gives a broad overview of how the United Nations works to protect and manage the oceans. This is a helpful starting point for understanding how ocean law fits into international policy and environmental goals.In this episode, Jon mentions a large study he was involved in, which investigated how deep-sea communities change across the 6 million square kilometres of seafloor in the Clarion-Clipperton Zone. Check out the full open-access paper to find out more about this research and the importance of the findings for deep-sea mining governance in the region: ‘Carbonate compensation depth drives abyssal biogeography in the northeast Pacific’.Jon also talks about his experience on the 2010 research cruise that discovered the world’s deepest hydrothermal vents. Learn more about these Caribbean hydrothermal vents in the related open-access paper: ‘Hydrothermal vent fields and chemosynthetic biota on the world's deepest seafloor spreading centre’.Subscribe to our weekly newsletter, the Deep-Sea Round-Up, for all the latest deep-sea research, news and opportunities. About DOSI: The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community. If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today. Follow us on social media! Instagram: @deepstewardship Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬ Twitter/X: @deepstewardship Linkedin: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound and Eesha Rangani. Thank you to our funders, Arcadia, Synchronicity Earth, the Benioff Ocean Science Laboratory, and to the University of Southampton for their support. Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

We are excited to announce Think Deep! - Decoding deep-ocean science and policy, a new podcast series from the Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI). In this 6-part series, we discover the connections that tie us to the deep ocean and demystify the governance frameworks that strive to protect it – from climate to biodiversity, from UNCLOS to the BBNJ Agreement. Episode 1 is coming this World Ocean Day, 8 June. Enjoy this teaser trailer, and join us as we explore the deep ocean's mysteries, confront its challenges, and shape its future together. Subscribe now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTube. Music: By the Ocean by Remember The FutureLicensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

In this episode, we interview experts Professor Lisa Levin and Dr. Sarah Seabrook about marine carbon dioxide removal: what it is, potential impacts on deep-ocean environments, and future policy needs.