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Lee's Last Years: How Robert E. Lee Rebuilt the South and Reshaped University Education
2026/10/28
After the Civil War, Robert E. Lee became president of Washington College, now known as Washington and Lee University, in Lexington, Virginia. Though some expected him to serve mainly as a figurehead, Lee took an active role in running the school and set out to reshape its curriculum. He believed the South's next generation of leaders needed practical training alongside classical education, including civil and mining engineering, agricultural chemistry, modern languages, law, business, and journalism. He also established the honor system, took a close personal interest in students, attracted massive donations, and helped guide the young men in his charge through Reconstruction while using his vacations to help effect reconciliation between North and South. His fading health meant he had but a few years to make a difference, and this he did with exceptional ability, which the country thanked him for in the months before his death, when he took a grand tour through the Southern states. He passed away in September of 1870.
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0:00 Lee's College Revolution
1:57 Rebuilding Southern Education
4:06 A Practical University
9:58 The Honor System
18:24 Faith Without Coercion
22:45 Lee and Reconstruction
33:04 A Bid for Reconciliation
36:23 Integrity in Poverty
38:49 Ailing in Service
41:33 A Farewell Journey
47:25 Lee's Final Days
53:30 A Nation Mourns
55:35 Victory After Appomattox
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Flood, Charles Bracelen, Lee: The Last Years, https://amzn.to/4gDcA4I
Freeman, Douglas Southall, R. E. Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4gkaqrx
Hendrick, Burton J., The Lees of Virginia, https://amzn.to/4xshjNe
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Savior of the South: How Robert E. Lee's Reconcilliation Campaign Saved Virginia
2026/10/24
After his surrender at Appomattox, Robert E. Lee returned to a devastated Richmond and began his final campaign: helping Virginia recover and encouraging reconciliation. The war had left him with little money or property, his home at Arlington confiscated, his citizenship in question, and the threat of a treason trial. He chose to remain in Virginia and urged former Confederates to accept the end of the fighting, return home, and rebuild despite Reconstruction. This episode tracks that, and shows Lee's life in Richmond, his time at Derwent, and how he came to become president of Washington College, now Washington & Lee University.
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0:00 Lee Returns to a Ruined Richmond
2:57 A New Campaign of Reconciliation
8:23 Virginia in Ruins
16:43 Rejecting Guerrilla War and Exile
22:09 Lee's Oath and the Road to Reunion
28:44 Seeking Peace at Derwent
35:05 Washington College Nears Collapse
40:27 The Offer That Changed Lee's Life
45:26 Weighing the Call to Serve
50:19 Lee's Arrival in Lexington
52:53 A Quiet Inauguration
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Dowdey, Clifford, Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/46lDf14
Fleming, Thomas, A Disease in the Public Mind: A New Understanding of Why We Fought the Civil War, https://amzn.to/4yzbiix
Flood, Charles Bracelen, Lee: The Last Years, https://amzn.to/4gDcA4I
Freeman, Douglas Southall, R. E. Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4gkaqrx
Hendrick, Burton J., The Lees of Virginia, https://amzn.to/4xshjNe
Lee, Cazenove Gardner, Jr., Lee Chronicle: Studies of the Early Generations of the Lees, https://amzn.to/4q7GiTI
Longacre, Edward G., Fitz Lee: A Military Biography of Major General Fitzhugh Lee, https://amzn.to/4xkLNAu
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Nichols, James L., General Fitzhugh Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4qeURoz
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The Gentleman Defeated: Lee Surrenders to Grant's Union Machine at Appomattox
2026/10/17
This is the tale of how the Confederacy was defeated in the spring of 1865, tracking General Ulysses S. Grant's final victoyr at Petersburg after General John B. Gordon failed assault on Fort Stedman and the disaster at Five Forks. What followed was the chaotic evacuation of Richmond, the retreat of the Army of Northern Virginia, a Confederate supply disaster that halted the army, and the eventual necessity of surrender at Appomattox.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Confederacy Nears Collapse
3:28 Lee Appointed Commander
4:38 Fort Stedman Gamble
5:59 Petersburg Breaks Open
8:55 Richmond Evacuated
9:47 Amelia Courthouse Disaster
11:45 Sailor's Creek Massacre
13:32 Appomattox Encircled
15:32 Lee Chooses Surrender
18:00 Appomattox Surrender Talks
21:35 Grant's Generous Terms
25:12 Lee's Farewell Order
26:31 Final Surrender Ceremony
28:03 Lee Returns Home
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Dabney, Virginius, Virginia: The New Dominion, https://amzn.to/46gVW69
Dowdey, Clifford, Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/46lDf14
Fleming, Thomas, A Disease in the Public Mind: A New Understanding of Why We Fought the Civil War, https://amzn.to/4yzbiix
Flood, Charles Bracelen, Lee: The Last Years, https://amzn.to/4gDcA4I
Freeman, Douglas Southall, R. E. Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4gkaqrx
Hendrick, Burton J., The Lees of Virginia, https://amzn.to/4xshjNe
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Lee Vs. Grant: How Lee Stopped the Union Juggernaut Against All Odds
2026/10/14
In the autumn of 1863, after Gettysburg, the war in northern Virginia became a series of maneuvers between a depleted Union army and Robert E. Lee's weakened Army of Northern Virginia. Lee also had to detach James Longstreet to help Braxton Bragg in the West, leaving the Army of Northern Virginia badly outnumbered. Further, what opportunities there were were marred by bad luck at the battle of Mine Run and AP Hill's poor judgment at Bristow Station.
The appointment of Ulysses S. Grant changed the war substantially, as Grant decided to grind Lee's army down in a war of attrition. What followed was the campaign in the Wilderness, featuring battles at Spotsylvania and North Anna, including Bloody Angle, with Grant sustaining enormous casualties. The campaign culminated at Cold Harbor, where Grant was defeated. What followed was the Siege of Petersburg, which ground on into 1865 after Union failure in the Battle of the Crater.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Post-Gettysburg Attrition
1:33 Longstreet's Detachment
2:19 Bristow Station Blunder
5:14 Mine Run Fortifications
9:49 Grant Takes Command
13:21 The Wilderness Opens
16:16 Longstreet Wounded
17:45 Grant Refuses Retreat
18:40 The Mule Shoe Trap
21:09 Bloody Angle Breakthrough
25:11 North Anna Trap
27:28 Cold Harbor Slaughter
30:45 Grant Marches South
33:17 Petersburg Siege Begins
34:56 The Crater Explosion
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Dowdey, Clifford, Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/46lDf14
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Flood, Charles Bracelen, Lee: The Last Years, https://amzn.to/4gDcA4I
Freeman, Douglas Southall, R. E. Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4gkaqrx
Hendrick, Burton J., The Lees of Virginia, https://amzn.to/4xshjNe
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Triumph to Tragedy: The Great Partnership of Lee and Jackson (Part 2)
2026/10/10
After the Maryland campaign and bloody draw at Antietam, the Army of Northern Virginia rested and refitted in the Shenandoah Valley before returning to the Rappahannock. During this pause, Robert E. Lee refitted, disciplined, and reorganized his army to reflect his faith in Jackson while the Union Army moved to strike at Fredericksburg, eventually doing so at the cost of an astounding 13,000 casualties.
During the winter at Moss Neck and nearby camps, Lee and Jackson spent time in close consultation, discussing the next campaigns, refining their strategy as their bond grew all the closer. Then, when Joseph Hooker struck at Chancellorsville, the time to test their developed beliefs came and Lee, despite being outnumbered, split his force again and sent Jackson on a flank march through the Wilderness.
Jackson's march led to the surprise attack on the Union XI Corps on May 2. The Federal flank collapsed in confusion, and the Confederates drove them back in a major tactical victory. That night, while reconnoitering in the dark, Jackson was mistakenly fired upon by Confederate soldiers and severely wounded.
Jackson's arm was amputated, but he later developed pneumonia and died on May 10, 1863. Lee mourned his death deeply and reorganized the army without him. The episode ends by marking Jackson's death at Chancellorsville as a turning point, and by looking ahead to Gettysburg and the later campaigns.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Lee Rebuilds His Army, and Burnside Takes Command
7:14 Fredericksburg Under Fire
16:38 The Last Great Winter: Recuperation at Moss Neck
19:50 Hooker Rises to Challenge Lee
24:26 The Last Meeting of Lee and Jackson: Preparing the Thunderclap
28:29 Jackson Flanks the Union
32:18 Lee Loses Jackson
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Dabney, Virginius, Virginia: The New Dominion, https://amzn.to/46gVW69
Dowdey, Clifford, Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/46lDf14
Fleming, Thomas, A Disease in the Public Mind: A New Understanding of Why We Fought the Civil War, https://amzn.to/4yzbiix
Flood, Charles Bracelen, Lee: The Last Years, https://amzn.to/4gDcA4I
Freeman, Douglas Southall, R. E. Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4gkaqrx
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The Great Partnership: Lee & Jackson's Rise to Glory (Part 1)
2026/10/07
This episode traces the incredible, glorious partnership between Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson during the American Civil War. It begins with their contrasting backgrounds and temperaments, explaining why they together formed an especially effective command team for the Army of Northern Virginia.
The story then moves to the Shenandoah Valley campaign of 1862, noting how Jackson's rapid movements and attacks fulfilled Lee's wishes perfectly, and built Lee's confidence in Jackson to the point that the two men could work closely together.
The episode next covers Second Manassas, showing how faith in Jackson allowed Lee to divide his army in an attempt to crush Pope. He sent Jackson on a long flank march behind John Pope's forces, leading to the capture and destruction of Union supplies at Manassas Junction. Jackson then held a strong defensive position while Lee and Longstreet struck Pope's exposed flank, forcing a Union retreat and giving the Confederates a major victory.
After that, the focus shifts to Lee's decision to invade Maryland, and how a lost order led to tragedy at Antietam, setting up the next year's great victory at Chancellorsville, and the World WarI-like butchery at Fredericksburg
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Lee and Jackson United: The Great Partnership Begins
5:57 Seven Days Setback
9:21 Lee Regroups and Attacks Northward as Pope Threatens Virginia
15:42 Lee's Great Gamble, Jackson's Flank March
24:28 Lee, Jackson, and Longstreet at Second Manassas
33:41 Why Lee Invaded Maryland, and Why It Went Wrong
45:48 Antietam: America's Bloody Day
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Dabney, Virginius, Virginia: The New Dominion, https://amzn.to/46gVW69
Dowdey, Clifford, Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/46lDf14
Fleming, Thomas, A Disease in the Public Mind: A New Understanding of Why We Fought the Civil War, https://amzn.to/4yzbiix
Flood, Charles Bracelen, Lee: The Last Years, https://amzn.to/4gDcA4I
Freeman, Douglas Southall, R. E. Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4gkaqrx
Hendrick, Burton J., The Lees of Virginia, https://amzn.to/4xshjNe
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The Decline and Fall of the British Aristocracy, and What We Must Learn from It
2026/10/04
In the late 19th century, the British landed elite still seemed secure. A small group of aristocratic and gentry families owned the supermajority of the land, much of the best urban property, and many mineral rights, while also holding political office and shaping society through cultural dominance, business investments, and social prestige. Their wealth supported a life of leisure used to fulfill the duty to govern, not for private indulgence in indolence.
That system began to break down with the repeal of the Corn Laws in 1846 and the agricultural depression of the 1870s as cheap grain from the United States, carried by rail and steamship, drove down British agricultural prices and rents. At the same time, the Third Reform Act expanded the electorate and weakened the old rural political structure.
As incomes fell, many landowners were burdened by debt, mortgages, and family settlements. Some sold land, houses, art, and other assets; others tried to shift into business, finance, or colonial ventures. The People's Budget and the Parliament Act then increased taxes and reduced the power of the House of Lords, making the old order even less secure.
World War I accelerated the decline. Many aristocrats served and died in unusually high numbers, and wartime requisitioning damaged or destroyed country houses. After the war, the class remained visible in local life, but it lost national political influence and much of its confidence.
After describing the decline of the class, I articulate what lessons we should draw from its demise.
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Aspects of Aristocracy, https://link.amazon/B0hs1ny41
The Gentry, https://link.amazon/B004Qxd5v
Aristocrats, https://link.amazon/B0bhdsxet
The Iron Duke, https://link.amazon/B0bWhIY77
American Colossus, https://link.amazon/B01aFOKhP
English Landed Society in the Nineteenth Century, https://link.amazon/B0c6eSxVo
European Landed Elites in the 19th Century, https://link.amazon/B0eQ9UGUY
The Conservative Mind, https://link.amazon/B0bDdEBuS
The Serpent and the Stag, https://link.amazon/B03VrFQ8J
The Decline and Fall of America's W.A.S.P. Aristocracy, And What We Must Learn from It
2026/09/30
This episode examines the rise, dominance, and disappearance of the WASPs, the old American families from the Northeast who dominated business, society, and politics for much of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It distinguishes them from the Southern gentry, and defines them as an upper class formed by intermarriage, inherited wealth, and shared institutions rather than just a group of rich individuals.
It then describes how the WASPs were economically and culturally powerful at their height. They funded railroads, industry, banking, museums, libraries, and opera houses, while shaping high society through prep schools, Ivy League colleges, clubs, debutante events, and church life. Their influence also extended into politics, largely through the Republican Party and through journals, donations, and private networks rather than direct office-holding.
I argue that the class declined because of three main factors: an addiction to leisure, inflation, and taxation. Many families came to prefer yachting, travel, parties, and passive investing over active oversight of businesses and fortunes. It also explains that their preference for bonds left them vulnerable when inflation rose after the gold standard weakened, reducing both the real value of their income and the value of their capital. Further, income taxes and death taxes made it difficult to preserve wealth, and many families tried risky investing or leverage instead of adapting. A few families, such as the Mellons and the Golets, survived by holding better assets, using trusts, and remaining attentive to their wealth, but most of the New York 400 that was so dominant in the Gilded Age had faded near-entirely away within a century.
This episode ends by drawing lessons from this history: the importance of duty, long-term thinking, solid assets, keeping fortunes consolidated, and staying involved in family and business affairs. The episode says the WASPs disappeared as a class because they stopped doing the work required to remain an upper class.
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Dynasties: Fortunes and Misfortunes of the World's Great Family Businesses, https://link.amazon/B02JEw2t3
The Education of Henry Adams, https://link.amazon/B03AmIXkQ
The Managerial Revolution, https://link.amazon/B0iR5SahH
The Proud Tower: A Portrait of the World Before the War, https://link.amazon/B01ZmV6Hk
1913: In Search of the World Before the Great War, https://link.amazon/B0eVAW0k8
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John Smith: The Mercenary Who Built America
2026/09/26
This is the retold story of the life of Captain John Smith, the military hero who saved Virginia, with a focus on how he represents the model American in many ways. I tell the tales of his upbringing, his Crusade against the Ottomans, his escape from slavery, his feuds with the Virginia Company, his mapping of the Chesapeake, and his grand adventures in the New World, altogether showing how he's a man who created a model for the New World based on the best of the old.
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From "Granny Lee" to Savior of Richmond: How Robert E Lee Almost Won the War after a Year of Disappointment
2026/09/20
This is the story of how Robert E. Lee came to command the Army of Northern Virginia, and then used it to save Richmond while almost crushing McClellan in the Seven Days Battles. It is a story of early war debacles and embarrassments, prudent decision-making behind the scenes that led to Confederate successes, and then immense risk-taking and courage in the face of seemingly certain defeat. It is a tale of Stuart's dashing ride around McClellan, the near-total victory in the Seven Days Battles.
The Seven Days Battles began on June 26 with Mechanicsville, where A.P. Hill attacked too early and was repulsed. Jackson's delayed arrival later forced Porter to withdraw to Gaines' Mill, where Lee concentrated his forces and won a major victory on June 27. McClellan then abandoned his siege and began retreating toward the James River.
Lee pursued, but repeated delays and confusion prevented complete destruction of the Union army at Savage's Station, Glendale, and White Oak Swamp. On July 1 at Malvern Hill, Confederate attacks were shattered by strong Union artillery and naval gunfire. The Union army withdrew again on July 2, ending the Peninsula Campaign and leaving Richmond secure.
The campaign cost heavy casualties on both sides, but Lee's army and reputation were transformed. He had driven McClellan away from Richmond, gained the confidence of his soldiers and the Confederate government, and established the Army of Northern Virginia as his command, one he could use to win the war.
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Cole, Ryan, Light-Horse Harry Lee: The Rise and Fall of a Revolutionary Hero, https://amzn.to/4wiZOy3
Connelly, Thomas L., The Marble Man: Robert E. Lee and His Image in American Idea, https://amzn.to/4ywRf4j
Crocker, H. W., III, Robert E. Lee on Leadership: Executive Lessons in Management, https://amzn.to/4gvXpds
Dabney, Virginius, Virginia: The New Dominion, https://amzn.to/46gVW69
Dowdey, Clifford, Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/46lDf14
Fleming, Thomas, A Disease in the Public Mind: A New Understanding of Why We Fought the Civil War, https://amzn.to/4yzbiix
Flood, Charles Bracelen, Lee: The Last Years, https://amzn.to/4gDcA4I
Freeman, Douglas Southall, R. E. Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4gkaqrx
Hendrick, Burton J., The Lees of Virginia, https://amzn.to/4xshjNe
Lee, Cazenove Gardner, Jr., Lee Chronicle: Studies of the Early Generations of the Lees, https://amzn.to/4q7GiTI
Longacre, Edward G., Fitz Lee: A Military Biography of Major General Fitzhugh Lee, https://amzn.to/4xkLNAu
Nagel, Paul C., The Lees of Virginia: Seven Generations of an American Family, https://amzn.to/4wUxkfi
Nichols, James L., General Fitzhugh Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4qeURoz
Royster, Charles, Light-Horse Harry Lee and the Legacy of the American Revolution, https://amzn.to/3TKWspX
Sanborn, Margaret, Robert E. Lee: A Portrait, https://amzn.to/3SA6EkN
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How the Virginia Gentry Became a Ruling Class
2026/09/16
This is the in-depth story of how the Virginia gentry built itself into a true ruling class. Focusing in particular on "American Revolutionaries in the Making," this explores how the planter class of Old Virginia used a system of obligation, duty, and cultivated excellence to go from being Virginia gentlemen to Founding Fathers. Particularly, it explores the role of the tobacco plantation, parish vestry, county court, and House of Burgesses in this process, describing their progression as a cursus honorum that created a political aristocracy unlike any other.
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Read the article on which this video is based here, for the full set of lessons: https://www.theamericantribune.news/p/equality-and-the-only-political-question
Read my article on what we can learn about building a new elite from them here: https://www.theamericantribune.news/p/how-to-build-a-durable-counter-elite
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Virginia's Excellent Aristocracy
4:48 Plantation Management as Training for Politics
14:51 The Parish Vestry Nursery of Government
24:43 Justice of the Peace: A Ladder to Achievement
32:14 Burgess Elections and Political Selection
38:50 Training for Greatness
46:42 Democracy and Aristocracy Combined
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Sydnor, Charles S., Gentlemen Freeholders: Political Practices in Washington's Virginia (published also as American Revolutionaries in the Making), https://link.amazon/B02HL4Fy1
Andrews, Matthew Page, Virginia: The Old Dominion, https://link.amazon/B0cJFsEsu
Breen, T. H., Tobacco Culture: The Mentality of the Great Tidewater Planters on the Eve of Revolution, https://link.amazon/B05hVviv7
Bridenbaugh, Carl, Seat of Empire: The Political Role of Eighteenth-Century Williamsburg, https://link.amazon/B0gSTbbv4
Bruce, Philip Alexander, Institutional History of Virginia in the Seventeenth Century, https://link.amazon/B0ahxJuCL
Ellis, Joseph J., His Excellency: George Washington, https://link.amazon/B0i9vFMQc
Evans, Emory G., "A Topping People": The Rise and Decline of Virginia's Old Political Elite, 1680–1790, https://link.amazon/B0edgPGMV
Fischer, David Hackett, Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America, https://link.amazon/B01m4dJnu
Flournoy, Mary, Twin Patriots, https://link.amazon/B0998i1j1
Middlekauff, Robert, The Glorious Cause: The American Revolution, 1763–1789, https://link.amazon/B0h1qfajq
Morton, Louis, Robert Carter of Nomini Hall: A Virginia Tobacco Planter of the Eighteenth Century, https://link.amazon/B0eE8BLfY
The Habit of Command: How the Virginia Gentry Raised Its Sons
2026/09/13
This episode explains what Henry Adams called the "habit of command" in the Virginia gentry, showing how Virginia planter families developed a quiet assumption of leadership, public duty, and authority that helped define them from the colonial period through the 19th century.
In it, I show how this attitude developed out of plantation life: on large estates, young Virginians learned to manage people, make decisions, and handle practical affairs, all of which was also shaped by a sense of noblesse oblige, service, and a sense of obligation rather than mere arrogance. Critical to this was how the Virginia gentry raised its sons. Fathers were central figures in a patriarchal household, but children were not raised under constant repression. Boys especially were given freedom, outdoor activity, and room to develop independence, while still being expected to respect parental authority. That freedom was linked to self-reliance, self-control, and financial independence. Sons were encouraged to emulate their fathers, avoid debt and dissipation, and use education, family schools, tutors, and later college or professional training to prepare for leadership.
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Read the article on which this video is based here, for the full set of lessons: https://www.theamericantribune.news/p/building-the-habit-of-command-how
Read my article on the Virginia cursus honorum here: https://www.theamericantribune.news/p/equality-and-the-only-political-question
Read my article on what we can learn about building a new elite from them here: https://www.theamericantribune.news/p/how-to-build-a-durable-counter-elite
Read my article on what they can teach us about developing personal excellence here: https://www.theamericantribune.news/p/embodying-aristocratic-excellence
CHAPTERS
0:00 The Habit of Command: What it Was, and How It Was Built
7:37 More to the Habit of Command than the Plantation
10:05 Patriarchal Households and Free-Range Sons
15:22 Lessons in Self-Reliance
17:46 The Virginia Gentry's Love of Self-Government
24:29 Why the Gentry Abhorred Debt
28:14 How Education Helped Create Excellence
34:52 Strong But Limited Families and Government
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Adams, Henry, The Education of Henry Adams, https://amzn.to/4ingEZl
Bridenbaugh, Carl, Seat Of Empire: The Political Role Of Eighteenth Century Williamsburg, https://amzn.to/4dCPvhF
Bridenbaugh, Carl, Myths and Realities: Societies of the Colonial South, https://amzn.to/4yBA0Pb
Dowdey, Clifford, The Great Plantation, https://amzn.to/3TxKFvn
Holton, Woody, Forced Founders: Indians, Debtors, Slaves, and the Making of the American Revolution in Virginia, https://amzn.to/4xVyHLd
Wertenbaker, Thomas Jefferson, Patrician and Plebeian in Virginia, https://amzn.to/4yAMvKH
Virginia Warrior: Robert E. Lee's Agonizing Road to War
2026/09/09
After his Mexican-American War triumph and success at Fort Carroll, Robert E Lee faced a decade of frustration that culminated in his being the man who stopped John Brown at Harper's Ferry, and soon faced the impossible choice between leading the armies of his nation or his native state when tensions spiralled to war in the wake of the Brown raid. In this episode, we discuss Robert E Lee's time as superintendent of the US Military Academy at West Point, his commandership of the Comanche-hunting cavalry in the sun-baked plains of Texas, his management of the debacle at Arlington following the death of George Washington Parke Custis, his defeat of John Brown, and his decision to side with Virginia. We focus in particular on the antics of his nephew Fitz Lee at West Point, the tediousness of life on the Texas frontier, the slander he faced from the Northern abolitionist press, the madness of Brown's raid, and Lee's last discussion with General Winfield Scott.
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0:00 When Lee Defeated John Brown at Harper's Ferry
4:52 Lee the Burdened Superintendent of West Point
17:17 Dull Duty on the Texas Frontier
27:05 George Washington Parke Custis's Disastrous Will
33:49 Managing Arlington, Slandered by the Press
39:25 Lee Is Called to the Rescue to Stop John Brown's Raid On Harper's Ferry
43:48 Stopping John Brown: The Engine House Assault
51:45 Texas and Secession
54:02 Lee Chooses Virginia
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Burt, Nathaniel, First Families: The Making of an American Aristocracy, https://amzn.to/4r0KLYG
Cole, Ryan, Light-Horse Harry Lee: The Rise and Fall of a Revolutionary Hero, https://amzn.to/4wiZOy3
Connelly, Thomas L., The Marble Man: Robert E. Lee and His Image in American Idea, https://amzn.to/4ywRf4j
Crocker, H. W., III, Robert E. Lee on Leadership: Executive Lessons in Management, https://amzn.to/4gvXpds
Dabney, Virginius, Virginia: The New Dominion, https://amzn.to/46gVW69
Dowdey, Clifford, Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/46lDf14
Fleming, Thomas, A Disease in the Public Mind: A New Understanding of Why We Fought the Civil War, https://amzn.to/4yzbiix
Flood, Charles Bracelen, Lee: The Last Years, https://amzn.to/4gDcA4I
Freeman, Douglas Southall, R. E. Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4gkaqrx
Hendrick, Burton J., The Lees of Virginia, https://amzn.to/4xshjNe
Lee, Cazenove Gardner, Jr., Lee Chronicle: Studies of the Early Generations of the Lees, https://amzn.to/4q7GiTI
Longacre, Edward G., Fitz Lee: A Military Biography of Major General Fitzhugh Lee, https://amzn.to/4xkLNAu
Nagel, Paul C., The Lees of Virginia: Seven Generations of an American Family, https://amzn.to/4wUxkfi
Nichols, James L., General Fitzhugh Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4qeURoz
Royster, Charles, Light-Horse Harry Lee and the Legacy of the American Revolution, https://amzn.to/3TKWspX
Sanborn, Margaret, Robert E. Lee: A Portrait, https://amzn.to/3SA6EkN
Thomas, Emory M., Robert E. Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/46qVL8c
"The Best Soldier": Robert E. Lee's Mexican War Heroics
2026/09/06
After watching him perform so valiantly as an officer in the Mexican-American War, General Winfield Scott would publicly declare Robert E. Lee to be "the very best soldier that I ever saw in the field." This is the story of what Lee accomplished as a middle-aged scout and engineer in the Mexican campaign. From his role in securing victory during Winfield Scott's Veracruz campaign by perfectly siting and building batteries to helping scout and lead assaults at Cerro Gordo, Contreras, Churubusco, and Chapultepec, Lee's Mexican War record is one of heroics, immense skill, and indefatigable energy. We discuss all his heroics, and how what he learned during the Mexican-American War shaped his Civil War generalship, from his audacious assaults with split-up forces to his reliance on talented scouts and improvised field works. We also cover Lee's heroic feats in depth, from when he hid under a log as Mexican soldiers sat nearby in the Cerro Gordo, to when he crossed the deadly Pedregal thrice in a night to save 3500 Americans, a feat Gen. Scott called "the greatest feat of physical and moral courage performed by any individual, to my knowledge, pending the campaign."
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0:00 Lee's Mexican War Baptism in Leadership
3:41 Lee Gets The Call to War
8:01 The Texas Coast Landing
11:18 The Sheep Scout
18:03 Scott's Veracruz Gamble
30:25 Into the Mountain Pass: Cerro Gordo Heroics
39:08 The Pedregal Crossings
48:13 Chapultepec Assault
55:29 Occupied Mexico City
58:49 Home to Arlington
1:01:27 What Robert E Lee Learned in Mexico
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Cole, Ryan, Light-Horse Harry Lee: The Rise and Fall of a Revolutionary Hero, https://amzn.to/4wiZOy3
Crocker, H. W., III, Robert E. Lee on Leadership: Executive Lessons in Management, https://amzn.to/4gvXpds
Dowdey, Clifford, Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/46lDf14
Flood, Charles Bracelen, Lee: The Last Years, https://amzn.to/4gDcA4I
Freeman, Douglas Southall, R. E. Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4gkaqrx
Hendrick, Burton J., The Lees of Virginia, https://amzn.to/4xshjNe
Lee, Cazenove Gardner, Jr., Lee Chronicle: Studies of the Early Generations of the Lees, https://amzn.to/4q7GiTI
Nagel, Paul C., The Lees of Virginia: Seven Generations of an American Family, https://amzn.to/4wUxkfi
Nichols, James L., General Fitzhugh Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/4qeURoz
Royster, Charles, Light-Horse Harry Lee and the Legacy of the American Revolution, https://amzn.to/3TKWspX
Sanborn, Margaret, Robert E. Lee: A Portrait, https://amzn.to/3SA6EkN
Thomas, Emory M., Robert E. Lee: A Biography, https://amzn.to/46qVL8c
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Creating Christian Nobility with Evan Amato
2026/08/30
In this episode, Will and Evan Amato discuss the idea of Christian nobility and what it means to be truly noble within the European and Christian tradition. The conversation begins with Pope Pius XII's speeches to the Roman aristocracy, especially his question of what nobility means at a time when noble titles were losing their public force.
From there, the discussion turns to the duties attached to privilege. Evan Amato emphasizes Pius XII's call for irreproachable moral conduct, especially in family life, along with austerity, loyalty, compassion, prudence, and the ability to influence others without humiliation or force. He presents this as a distinctly noble form of conduct rather than a combative or self-assertive one.
A major theme throughout their discussion is the relationship between hierarchy, wealth, and responsibility. The conversation contrasts an older aristocratic ideal of leisure and leadership with modern egalitarian attitudes that encourage elites to hide their status. Evan argues that wealth and position should be treated as obligations, using the parable of the talents to show that gifts are meant to be stewarded and put to use. Additionally, they explore the idea of nobility as "yeast" in society: something distinct that raises and improves the whole. Evan explains that people with resources should use them to support culture, community, and public life, rather than simply withdrawing or pretending to be ordinary.
Finally, they focus on examples and practical application of the idea of Christian nobility. Evan discusses ancient European families and individuals he sees as living this way, and then turns to the task of passing these habits on to children through education, example, dress, and ordinary conduct.
Read Will's thoughts on embodying aristocratic excellence here: https://www.theamericantribune.news/p/embodying-aristocratic-excellence
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rfjax34 2026/08/11
Excellent
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The Lee’s of Virginia
Will’s obvious passion for the Virginia founders and specifically the Lee family is infectious. One of America’s great founding families with great me...
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Amazing Lewis & Clark
The Lewis & Clark epic was incredibly done. The detail, realism and expense throughout was as enjoyable as it was informative. I recommend anyone inte...
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Rhodesia
Will, not sure how to get ahold of you. Could you do an episode on Christianity in Rhodesia? I’m curious how that was with the idea of “tribes”. And o...
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Very Enjoyable History Discussions and Exposition.
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