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Arun SudhamanExplicit
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2025/05/29
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2026/10/13
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36 min.
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Earned First is a groundbreaking media and events platform dedicated to elevating public relations and communications professionals across Asia-Pacific, the Middle East, and Africa. Hosted by respected industry journalist Arun Sudhaman, the Earned First podcast delivers crucial insights and intelligence for the global public relations industry.
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Jean-Léopold Schuybroek: Four decades of building independent PR
2026/10/13
Jean-Leopold Schuybroek, chair of PROI’s International Development Group, joins the Earned First podcast to reflect on four decades in the consultancy business. The Interel founder and former ICCO chair has spent 20 years building PROI into a network of independent firms that now covers most of the world. In conversation with Earned First’s Arun Sudhaman, the episode explores:
what he looks for in a firm before it is bigwhy clients now build their own rosters of independentshow public affairs outgrew its cosy lobbying originsthe silos agencies built for themselves.
Geopolitics, Mastercard & OpenAI's CCO search
2026/09/29
Earned First's David Blecken and Arun Sudhaman look at the backlash over Singapore Airlines' stake in Air India, Chinese brands going global, and Mastercard's global PR pitch. They also discuss OpenAI's nine-month CCO search, and why only just over half of CCOs report to the CEO, according to Earned First's PR 2030 research.
Why corporate affairs pros want change, with GlobeScan's Chris Coulter
2026/08/24
GlobeScan CEO Chris Coulter joins the Earned First podcast to break down findings from the latest Oxford-GlobeScan Global Corporate Affairs Survey. Now in its seventh edition, the study draws on nearly 300 senior practitioners across 51 countries, and offers a wealth of insight into the opinions, trends, and challenges facing corporate affairs teams worldwide. In conversation with Earned First's Arun Sudhaman, the episode explores why corporate affairs heads want their functions revised — and why that appetite runs highest in Asia-Pacific — how geoeconomics is reshaping their priorities, the woeful state of corporate affairs measurement, and much more, including the latest on the ESG backlash.
Culture, Cannes & cockroaches with Charlotte Mceleny
2026/07/30
Charlotte Mceleny returns to discuss Cannes Lions 2026: the creator economy's growing dominance, the industry's fixation on "culture," and renewed momentum behind CCOs and organisational trust. The conversation turns to GEO and AI search's parallels with early SEO, before closing on the Gen Z-led political movements reshaping communications across Asia.
Cannes: Chris Foster on creative shifts, earned momentum and acquisition lessons
2026/07/01
Earned First's Cannes podcast series concludes with Omnicom PR CEO Chris Foster, who joins Arun Sudhaman for a wide-ranging conversation about creativity, culture, CCOs and consolidation.
Foster reflects on what he sees as a shift in creativity toward influence, and what that means for earned media in an AI-driven landscape. He also examines the growing prominence of CCOs at Cannes, the relationship between geopolitics and market access, and what the best creative work of the week tells us.
Seven months into the creation of the new Omnicom PR, he also opens up about the lessons of integration, on communication, culture and what it takes to make a network feel like more than the sum of its parts.
Cannes: Burson's Craig Buchholz on the PR Grand Prix, the CCO's rise and more
2026/07/01
Craig Buchholz, US CEO of Burson, joins Earned First at Cannes Lions 2026 the day after the agency's Kit Kat Heist campaign won the PR Lions Grand Prix. He discusses what made it work: a crisis reframed as cultural opportunity, bravery as a prerequisite for award-winning ideas, and the "culture up" philosophy that sits at the heart of Burson's earned-first approach.
The conversation also covered the CCO's evolving role in the C-suite: from brand protector to enterprise growth advisor, and the degree to which that elevation turns on individual relationships as much as institutional structure. Buchholz, a former CCO at both General Motors and Procter & Gamble, also addresses what it takes to keep a seat at the table once it's secured, the growing presence of investors and private equity at Cannes, and what it signals about where the communications industry is heading.
Cannes: We.'s Nitin Mantri on community, crisis and counsel
2026/06/30
Recorded at Cannes Lions 2026, We.Communications Asia-Pacific president Nitin Mantri discusses how brands such as Adidas and ITC have built genuine community participation rather than advertising-driven attention, and why measuring community value means tracking behaviour change and outcomes rather than campaign activity.
He also addresses why startups in India are especially crisis-prone, the uneven influence of the CCO role relative to other markets, and the pressure on comms fees despite rising demand for senior counsel. The conversation closes with a regional view across India, China, Singapore, Australia and Malaysia, and the geopolitical headwinds facing Brand India.
Cannes: Jim O'Leary on agency upheaval, AI myths & Cannes' transformation
2026/06/30
Newly-installed Penta gobal CEO Jim O'Leary joins the Earned First podcast at Cannes to argue that legacy agency models are buckling under client demands they weren't built for, and that most firms are far better at marketing AI than deploying it. He traces the disruption to three converging forces — AI transformation, geopolitical risk, and a fracturing media landscape — and explains why private equity is moving into PR just as some legacy networks pull back.
The conversation closes on Cannes itself, which O'Leary describes as splitting into two festivals: a fading legacy version built around advertising, and a tech- and creator-economy-driven version steadily taking its place.
Podcast: Zeno's Barby Siegel and Thomas Bunn on the CMO-CCO growth gap
2026/06/27
In the first our Cannes podcasts, Zeno global CEO Barby Siegel and chief client impact officer Thomas Bunn examine the firm's Clarity 2030 research, which studies CMO attitudes toward reputation, earned media, and AI discoverability. The duo discuss why marketing leaders acknowledge the value of reputation but struggle to embed it earlier in the growth process, or to fund the earned media strategies most likely to build it.
The data points to another persistent structural problem: comms holds the broader stakeholder mandate, yet marketing claims more CEO influence on reputation and external positioning by a significant margin. Siegel and Bunn explore what it would take for communications to move from late-stage risk manager to early growth input, and where business acumen fits into that shift.
Tetsuya Honda on Japan Inc's global comms challenges
2026/06/16
Tetsuya Honda spent nearly 20 years at Fleishman Hillard before leaving to build Honda Office, a strategy-only consultancy operating without permanent staff or execution mandates. Earlier this year he extended that model across six Southeast Asian markets with the launch of PR Collective Asia, a network of individual specialists serving Japanese companies with regional ambitions.
In this conversation with David Blecken, research and insights editor of Earned First, Honda examines why Japanese companies — despite strong brand equity and long-established regional presence — continue to under-invest in communications strategy in Southeast Asia. He discusses the structural gap between Tokyo headquarters and local subsidiaries, why Korean competitors have developed more sophisticated international communications, the case for integrating corporate and product brand strategy, and where AI can and cannot help Japanese companies move faster.
Burson's Red Surtida on GEO's 'credibility paradox'
2026/06/09
In this episode, Burson's Asia-Pacific head of intelligence and transformation Red Surtida joins Earned First founding editor Arun Sudhaman and research and insights editor David Blecken to explore the findings of the 'Credibility Paradox', a study that examines how AI answer engines assess and surface brand content. The conversation covers why corporate leadership content is underperforming as a credibility signal, how employee experience is emerging as a reputation asset in the GEO era, the channel dynamics that vary significantly across industries and markets, and what it means that business decision-makers find AI-generated answers more believable than the general population does.
Holding groups, CMOs & Cannes with Charlotte Mceleny
2026/05/20
Charlotte Mceleny has seen the PR and marketing industry from both sides, through 15 years as a journalist, then inside a holding group at MediaMonks. In this conversation, she and Arun Sudhaman work through what's actually happening to the holding group model, why PR keeps failing the measurement test, what the CMO role is becoming under CFO pressure, and whether Cannes still means what it once did.
Mazen Nahawi on conflict, communications and courage in the Middle East
2026/05/07
Mazen Nahawi, founder and group CEO of CARMA and RAIYN, joins Earned First to assess the communications landscape of the ongoing US-Iran conflict. Drawing on CARMA's media intelligence data, he argues that the largely neutral view of Gulf countries reflects a deficit in terms of incomplete storytelling rather than active hostility, and one that Iran's disciplined communications strategy is effectively exploiting.
Nahawi also reflects on building two global holding groups out of the Middle East, the cultural and operational advantages that emerging-market businesses bring to the industry, and why the gap in communications today is less about capability than courage.
AI and the future of women in the workplace
2026/04/26
Christine Fellowes, founder of NINEby9, and Jane Morgan, chief client officer at Ashbury Communications, join Earned First to discuss Nineby9's latest research report, AI and the Future of Women in the Workplace. The conversation covers the exposure women face as AI reshapes the workforce, with women overrepresented in the roles most at risk of displacement and underrepresented in the roles being created. Fellowes and Morgan also examine how women's more measured approach to AI adoption, while a genuine organisational asset, can go unrecognised in workplaces that reward speed over outcomes. The episode looks at the structural changes needed in how organisations design learning, align HR and technology functions, and rethink entry-level talent investment, and what individuals can do in parallel.
QI Group's Ramya Chandrasekaran on AI, culture & the evolving role of the CCO
2026/04/14
Ramya Chandrasekaran, chief communications officer at QI Group, joins Arun Sudhaman to discuss how AI has moved from experiment to embedded practice inside her team, why geopolitics has fundamentally expanded the scope of the CCO role, and what it takes to build communications that actually land across 17-plus markets. She also shares an honest account of how she won a seat at the table, and why building relationships with the lawyers might matter more than you think.
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