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Join host Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an extraordinary conversation with actor and activist. Pearl Mackie. Episode Highlights Include: • Growing up in Brixton, a love of Judy Garland and watching musicals, wondering why there were no black faces.• The things she learned while training at the Bristol Old Vic Theatre School• How she survived after leaving drama schools and the many crazy jobs she had to take.• Climbing her way up the London fringe theatre scene and eventually getting her West End breaks.• What it means to be a young black queer woman and the intersectionality that comes with it.• And of course, many references to Bill Potts, her character in Doctor Who Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-usSponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers, and of course, Pearl Mackie. Queer TheatreThis podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow The Show People PodcastInstagram: @theshowpeoplepodcast, X: @ShowPeopleUK www.queertheatre.co.uk Follow Andrew KeatesInstagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @andrewkeates, X: @andrewkeateswww.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Pearl MackieInstagram: @therealpearlmackie Thank you for your support. Until next time - love always, Ax

Join host Andrew Keates ‪for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from the Two Brewers in Clapham. In this second half of an extraordinary conversation, Sir Ian McKellen reflects on some of the most iconic roles of his career; from Richard III to Gods and Monsters, Gandalf, Magneto, and his legendary collaborations with Patrick Stewart. He also dives into grassroots theatre, sitcoms, Shakespeare, queer representation, and the roles he still hopes to play. Essential listening for fans of The Lord of the Rings, X-Men, Vicious, Shakespeare lovers, and anyone who cherishes Sir Ian’s extraordinary legacy. Episode Highlights Include: • His breakthrough with Richard III and how the film almost didn’t get made • The impact of Gods and Monsters and receiving his Oscar nomination • Gandalf’s legacy, the joy of filming The Lord of the Rings, and what it means to younger generations • Magneto, the political power of the X-Men universe, and why he nearly said no to the role • His friendship and collaborations with Patrick Stewart: Waiting for Godot, No Man’s Land, and their performances in South Africa • His passion for grassroots and Queer theatre, and why local repertory still matters • Working on The Dresser with Anthony Hopkins, and a hilarious encounter with Sir Tom Courtenay • Filming Vicious, performing for a live audience, and the importance of older queer characters on TV • Saying yes to Cats, his experience on set, and the unexpected joy of the project • Taking on Coriolanus, the physical challenge, and the depth of Shakespeare’s most complicated characters • The Shakespeare roles he still wants to play, including Antonio in The Merchant of Venice • His favourite speech from Thomas More, and why its message still resonates today Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-usSponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey and the staff of the Two Brewers, and of course, Sir Ian McKellen. Queer TheatreThis podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates orconnect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Sir Ian McKellenInstagram: @ianmckellen Website: www.mckellen.com Thank you for your support - until next time, love always x

Join host ‪Andrew Keates‬ for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an extraordinary conversation with one of the world’s most celebrated actors: Sir Ian McKellen, a performer whose career spans over six decades, with more than sixty major awards across stage, screen and television, and whose voice in LGBTQ+ equality has inspired millions around the world. Episode Highlights Include: • Growing up in Burnley and Wigan during wartime Britain, and the family stories that shaped him, including the loss of his mother and sister. • First memories of stepping into a theatre and discovering performance • Life in repertory theatre at the Belgrade in 1961, and the reality of starting out • The breakthrough of Richard II and Edward II at Edinburgh, and the political weight of portraying a queer monarch • Originating the role of Max in Bent • How he came out on the radio and why the UK had to pay attention. • Advice for trans people during these impossible times. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Support Us If you enjoy the podcast, please consider making a donation to help us nurture LGBTQIA+ theatre-makers and proudly tell Queer stories, by visiting www.queertheatre.co.uk/support-usSponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey, and of course, Sir Ian McKellen. Queer TheatreThis podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates orconnect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow Sir Ian McKellenInstagram: @ianmckellen Website: www.mckellen.com Thank you for your support - until next time, love always x

Join host ‪Andrew Keates‬ for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. In Part Two of this unmissable conversation, Andrew welcomes back JP McCue – better known as Mary Mac – one of the UK’s most beloved drag performers, celebrated for her tartan, powerhouse vocals, and infamous Mary Mac medley across theatres, cruise ships, and queer venues worldwide. Episode Highlights Include: • Touring in Everybody’s Talking About Jamie – backstage antics, challenges, and why it continues to inspire young audiences.• Life at sea – the realities of performing on cruise ships and the sacrifices behind a career in drag.• La Cage Aux Folles at Regent’s Park – memories from one of the UK’s most joyful open-air productions.• Panto life – writing, starring, and sometimes directing your own!• Thoughts on RuPaul’s Drag Race – is it a force for good?• Friendship with Bianca Del Rio and reflections on today’s drag scene. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment our next episode is released! Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Special thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey, and of course, JP McCue Queer TheatreThis podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates orconnect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow JP McCueInstagram: @marymacofficial, TikTok: @marymacofficial, orconnect with him at www.marymacofficial.co.uk Thank you for your support - until next time, love always x

Join host ‪Andrew Keates for The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an unmissable conversation with JP McCue, better known as Mary Mac - one of the UK’s most loved drag performers, famous for her tartan, powerhouse vocals, and infamous Mary Mac medley across theatres, cruise ships, and Queer venues worldwide. Episode Highlights Include: • How long it takes Mary Mac to get ready? • First memories of The Two Brewers and why LGBTQ+ spaces matter • Growing up in Glasgow, coming out in the 1990s, and the role family played in his life. • Training at GAMTA: highs, struggles, survival jobs, and the teachers who inspired him. • Early days of drag: the queens who lit the way, the toughest gigs, and his time with the Fabulettes. • Balancing drag with musical theatre, and how queer audiences have changed over the years. • Heroes, the future of drag, and whether RuPaul’s Drag Race has been a force for good. • Advice for young drag artists starting out. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment part two is released! Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Special thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers Special thanks to Liam Chaplin, Adam Deamer, Oliver Blatherwick, Rhys Godfrey, and of course, JP McCue Queer TheatreThis podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates orconnect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Follow JP McCueInstagram: @marymacofficial, TikTok: @marymacofficial, orconnect with him at www.marymacofficial.co.uk Thank you for your support - until next time, love always x

Join host Andrew Keates for the second part of a very special relaunch of The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an intimate, wide-ranging conversation with national treasure, Sir Stephen Fry, celebrated writer, actor, comedian, broadcaster, and recent knight for his contributions to mental health awareness and environmental causes. Episode Highlights Include: - Views on JK Rowling and radicalised she has become and his current relatioship with her. - The benefits of re-writign the Greek myths and the universal human truths that come with doing so. - Why he is one of the most recognisable voices in the UK - The facts which still haunt him from QI - How he prepared to play roles such as Jeeves in Jeeves and Wooster, Oscar Wilde in Wilde and the interesting aspects of playing historic, iconic roles. - A very special letter he received from P.G. Wodehouse. - The worst audition he's ever had. - And just what is Claudia Winkleman's fringe like... Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment part two is released! Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Special thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers 🌈 This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates Or connect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Thank you for your support—until next time, love always.

The Show People Podcast is back! Join host Andrew Keates for a very special relaunch of The Show People Podcast, recorded live from The Two Brewers in Clapham. This episode features an intimate, wide-ranging conversation with national treasure, Sir Stephen Fry, celebrated writer, actor, comedian, broadcaster, and recent knight for his contributions to mental health awareness and environmental causes. Episode Highlights Include: - Has Stephen ever been to the Two Brewers before? - Stephen’s formative years growing up, the first parts he played, how he discovered a love of language and how his Jewishness has shaped him. - His passion for working with friends, including collaborating with Hugh Laurie, Emma Thompson, Rowan Atkinson and his unforgettable experiences creating Blackadder, A Bit of Fry and Laurie and Jeeves and Wooster. - Advice for young actors. - How he prepared to play the role of Oscar Wilde and how the playwright, poet and essayist has inspired him throughout the years. - How fame does no necessarily lead to happiness- Frank and powerful discussions around mental health struggles, suicide, addiction and his advocacy for others. Like and Subscribe Make sure you like and subscribe to be notified the moment part two is released! Sponsors & Supporters: Theataccounts: The entertainment industry's trusted accountants, looking after thousands of clients across theatre and performance. Connect at www.theataccounts.co.uk or Instagram: @theataccounts. Jake Waby Productions: London’s experts in theatre and live-performance videography, capturing your stories just the way you want them. From West End shows to global content, their experienced team delivers exceptional cinematic storytelling. Connect at jw.productions or Instagram: @jwproductions Boyan Georgiev: The Show People Podcast offical photographer. Connect at boyangeorgiev.com or on Instagram: @boyangeorgiev Special thanks to The Two Brewers and their wonderful team for hosting this event. Connect at www.the2brewers.com/london. or Instagram: @the2brewers This podcast is proudly produced by Queer Theatre, committed to LGBTQ+ storytelling and nurturing Queer talent. Discover more about their acting classes, Queer Play Reading Club, showcases, and event. Connect at www.queertheatre.co.uk, Instagram: @QueerTheatreUK, TikTok: @QueerTheatreUK, @Threads @QueerTheatreUK. Follow Andrew Keates: Instagram: @MrAndrewKeates, TikTok: @AndrewKeates, X: @andrewkeates Or connect with him at www.andrewkeates.co.uk Thank you for your support - until next time, love always.

This episode was recorded in January 2020 - before Covid-19 changed everything. Andrew shares an explanation about where The Show People Podcast has been for most of 2020 and celebrates the podcast’s fourth anniversary. Andrew and Peter Polycarpou two discuss Peter’s childhood, his relationship with his sister Eve Polycarpou and their Greek heritage and representation within the industry. Peter explains his passion for teaching (including teaching Andrew when he was a teenager!) and playing his many roles in iconic productions including Miss Saigon, Les Miserables, The Phantom of the Opera, Sweeney Todd, Mike Bartlett’s Artefacts and his roles in film and television, including De Lovely, Evita and Birds of a Feather. Plus the two play Funny Five Minutes and Peter shares what he would need to survive if he was stranded on tour in Whitley Bay.

Trigger Warning: this episode includes discussions about mental health struggles, suicide and death. If you find yourself becoming upset during the episode, please contact the organisation or person you rely upon for support. Andrew Keates chats with journalist, broadcaster and presenter Matthew Wright about his controversial comments about using outside spaces during the Covid-19 pandemic, the last two years of coping with multiple bereavements and PTSD and what it’s like to be second to Nick Knowles in the world of fly fishing.

Andrew chats with Alex Dyer, who runs Theataccounts - a specialist accountancy firm looking after performers and theatremakers in the performing arts industry and advising them on tax and their accounts. In this special episode, Alex takes Andrew through all of the various financial measures and schemes created by the government open to theatremakers during these unprecedented times in a simple and understandable way, including the grants for self-employed people, universal credit, VAT and many other things you may not know you could be eligible for. Also, we hear from Harry Francis, Drew Colby and Charlie Keable.

Andrew chats with Owen Farrow aka Divina De Campo about life post RuPaul’s Drag Race, whether they admire Geri Halliwell and finds out how the drag scene has been affected by Coronavirus. He speaks transatlantically with Robi Hager, writer of Basic Witches, which was a musical due to open in Philadelphia and Robi is now using his drag musical to raise funds for his cast (who we also hear perform a song from the show at the end of the episode). And we open up the Show People Podcast answering machine to listen to messages from Mama G, Ross and Monica of the Montague Arms and Dolly Parton (Well, Kelly O’Brien).

We open up the Show People Podcast answering machine and we hear from and AJ O’Neill and Emily Clare about what they’re doing to use their craft to benefit the theatre industry. Andrew chats with West End leading man and teacher George Ure about what it’s like swapping the West End for Tesco Express and we hear a song by Flloyd Kennedy all about social distancing.

Andrew Keates explains how The Show People Podcast is responding to the Covid-19 pandemic.

Merry Christmas from The Show People Podcast! Listen to our Christmas special and last episode of 2019 with actor and author Pauline Mclynn. We make fun listening whilst stuffing a turkey, or of course, if you're having a nice cup of tea. Pauline is best known for playing Mrs. Doyle in the iconic sitcom Father Ted, not to mention roles in Shameless, EastEnders and the acclaimed film Gyypo, of which she was nominated as Best Actress in the Irish Film And Television Awards. She’s recently graced our stages playing Mephistofeles in Doctor Faustus at the Globe, Mother Courage at Leeds Playhouse and Trixie in Daisy Pulls It Off. Thanks to two bottles of Malbec and a lot of Christmas spirit, the two amble around our usual format and have a good natter about Pauline’s life, career and Christmas. Merry Christmas and have a very happy new year.

Director, Andrew Keates is joined by actor, singer, composer, writer and musician Kurt Kansley. Kurt was born in Cape Town, South Africa and due to apartheid fled to Australia with his family. He’s had a career that’s taken him all over the world playing roles in Ragtime, Show Boat, Evita, Naked Boys Singing and later would find himself becoming a British citizen when he joined the West End production of The Lion King and go on to other productions including Miss Saigon, Hair and Sweet Bird Of Youth (to name but a few Kurt shares with Andrew Keates the difficulties he’s faced thanks to his ethnicity, what an international life as a performer has been like as well as his journey in the performing arts and his cherished writing partnership with Oliver Lidert. Episode features: Dramatic News: Andrew covers the latest dramatic news and performing arts stories. The Platform: We hear a song written by Kansley and Lidert. And of course we have a little silliness along the way too.