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We're Sarah Walton and Michele Wang, two 50-something women who've been friends for over 25 years—and all we really want to do is talk some sh*t and laugh our asses off. Not everything has to be "a breakthrough" or "next-level" or "the 5-step path to becoming your best self." We promise you: no important lessons will be taught and no deep dives will be taken. We're officially overwhelmed and drowning with all the self-help, get-better information out there and frankly we're at full capacity. We just want to hang out and we want nothing more than for you to join us. So welcome to Talk Shit and Laugh (TSAL)—a weekly podcast for women, where two lifelong friends, talk about all the random sh*t rolling around in their heads. We're tired of pretending we're fine, sick of fixing ourselves, and deeply craving something real. We promise: No important lessons will be taught No gratuitous self-help Just wildly honest conversations about the things keeping us up at night... or making us snort-laugh. We talk friendship, aging, health, relationships, reinvention, midlife identity crises (plural), and the deeply underrated power of laughing your damn face off—even when the topics are heavy. We won't always know what we're talking about next. But that's kind of the magic. It's real, it's heartfelt, and it's unfiltered—like the group chat you actually want to be in. Whether you're cooking, commuting, or hiding in your bathroom (or pantry) for a few minutes of peace—TSAL is here to remind you that you're not alone—and you're definitely not done. Subscribe now, pour yourself something fabulous, and join this community to talk sh*t and laugh. Welcome. We're so freaking glad you're here.

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How to Overcome a Lack of Motivation (Sort of)

2026/10/04

Ever feel stuck? Tired? Simply uninspired to get going? First...same! In this episode we discuss getting out of our own way and how any action can inspire motivation (vs. the other way around). Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@thesarahwalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@themichelewang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

Female Friendship Breakups & Why Women Are So Mean Online

2026/09/21

Why do friend breakups hurt more than romantic ones — and why are women so often the ones dishing it out? In this episode, we get into the friendships we've ended (and the ones that ended us), what "woman on woman crime" actually looks like in real life, and the specific brand of bad behavior women reserve for other women online. No advice, no closure, just the messy truth about how female friendships fall apart and why nobody talks about it. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheSarahWalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheMicheleWang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

This Is What Your Friends Actually Talk About

2026/09/06

This is the conversation you have with your best friend when there's no agenda — no topic prepared, nothing to perform, just two people talking the way friends actually talk. Sarah and I didn't plan this episode, and that's exactly what makes it one of the most honest ones we've recorded. Talk Sh*t and Laugh exists to make women in midlife feel less alone, and there's no better proof of that than sitting in on a real, unscripted conversation instead of another list of advice. If you've ever wished you could just eavesdrop on two friends being completely honest with each other — this is that. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@thesarahwalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheMicheleWang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

The Lies We Were Told: "Do What You Love" & "Love Is Enough"

2026/08/24

Somewhere along the way we were handed a set of rules: do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life. Love is all you need. Follow your passion and the money will follow. In this episode of Talk Sh*t and Laugh, Michele Wang and Sarah Walton dig into the advice we absorbed without ever questioning it — where it came from, why it sounded so good, and the quiet damage it did when real life didn't cooperate. From careers built on passion that stopped paying to marriages held together by feeling alone, we talk about what these narratives actually cost us. As always, we're not here to fix anything. We will teach you no things. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheSarahWalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheMicheleWang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

The Beliefs We Had to Unlearn

2026/08/16

In this episode of Talk Sh*t and Laugh, Sarah and Michele get into the beliefs they grew up with that haven't survived contact with adulthood. Sarah talks about being raised Mormon and the process of walking away from a belief system that shaped her whole childhood. Michele talks about the belief she carried for years that being overweight meant being undisciplined. No advice, no fix — just two people talking through what it looks like to change your mind about something you were sure of. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheSarahWalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheMicheleWang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

When Is It Enough? Money, Achievement & Recognition

2026/08/09

What does "enough" actually mean when it comes to money, achievement, and recognition — and why does the goalpost keep moving no matter how much we hit? In this episode, we get into the quiet, often uncomfortable question of enoughness: how we define it for ourselves, why external validation never seems to fill the gap, and what it looks like to sit with wanting more without a tidy resolution. As always, we're not here to fix it — just to talk it through. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheSarahWalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheMicheleWang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

What We Actually Do When No One's Watching

2026/08/03

Alone time looks different at every age. In this episode we talk about what we actually do when we're alone — and how that's changed since childhood, adolescence, and our twenties. Michele's current version of alone time: online shopping without ever checking out. Sarah's: reading, unsurprisingly. No advice, no fix — just an honest conversation about solitude and how we spend time with ourselves. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheSarahWalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@themichelewang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

Do You Really Know Yourself?

2026/07/26

Do you actually know yourself? In this episode, Michele Wang and Sarah Walton put that question to the test. We googled "how do you know yourself" and got a list of ten self-discovery questions — so we picked one and answered it on the spot: what are the five words you'd use to describe yourself, without mentioning your job, your family, or where you live? It sounds simple until you try it. What follows is a funny, surprisingly revealing conversation about identity, self-awareness, and who we are underneath all the labels. Grab a pen and play along — your five words might surprise you. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheSarahWalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheMicheleWang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

Feeling Disconnected? Same.

2026/07/19

Ever feel disconnected — from your friends, your life, even yourself — and wonder if something's wrong with you? In this episode, Michele Wang and Sarah Walton dig into why we feel disconnected, whether it's actually normal (spoiler: it's more common than you think), and what we can do to feel connected again. From social burnout and surface-level friendships to going through the motions on autopilot, we talk honestly about loneliness, isolation, and the small shifts that help you reconnect with people and with yourself. If you've been feeling off lately and can't explain why, this one's for you. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@thesarahwalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@themichelewang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

Grey Rocking vs. People Pleasing: The Masks We Learned to Wear

2026/07/12

Have you ever realized you've been wearing a mask so long you forgot it wasn't your face? In this episode of Talk Sh*t and Laugh, Michele unpacks her recent discovery of the term "grey rocking" — the practice of making yourself deliberately flat, boring, and unreadable. You've probably heard it recommended as a tactic for dealing with narcissists and difficult people, but Michele's realization was different: she'd been grey rocking her entire life, unconsciously, long before she had a word for it. Sarah's story is the mirror opposite — a lifetime of entertaining, performing, and betraying her own needs to keep everyone else comfortable. Two completely different survival strategies, one shared cost: losing yourself in the process. We get into where these masks come from, the difference between grey rocking as a deliberate boundary and grey rocking as a default setting, and what it takes to start taking them off. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheSarahWalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheMicheleWang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

Feeling Behind Hits Different After 50

2026/07/10

Remember when feeling behind meant your friends were getting promoted, married, or buying houses before you? Yeah, that's not it anymore. In this episode, we get into how "behind" changes shape in midlife — it's less about measuring yourself against other people and more about that quiet, nagging math you do against the clock. The dreams still on the shelf. The stuff you keep saying you'll get to. The weird pressure of "if not now, when?" No breakthroughs. No 5-step frameworks. Just two friends of 25+ years talking sh*t about a feeling we couldn't stop thinking about — and laughing anyway. New episodes weekly. Subscribe so you don't miss one (you're not behind on that yet) Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheSarahWalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheMicheleWang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

Is It Perimenopause or Am I Dying?

2026/06/28

Is it perimenopause, or are you actually dying? On this episode of Talk Sh*t and Laugh, hosts Michele Wang and Sarah Walton dive into the chaotic, hilarious, and sometimes terrifying world of perimenopause symptoms — from dwindling eyesight and brain fog to mood swings and night sweats. If you've ever Googled a symptom at 2am convinced you have a rare disease only to find out it's just your hormones losing their minds, this one's for you. Grab a drink, settle in, and laugh through the perimenopause spiral with us. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@thesarahwalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@themichelewang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

30 Years, 1 Husband: Sarah Demands Answers from Michele

2026/06/21

Get ready, because today's episode is a full-on interrogation! This week, Sarah is stepping into the hot seat as the ultimate grand inquisitor, demanding all the real, unvarnished tea on Michele's 30-year relationship with her husband. From the early days to three decades of navigating life side-by-side, no stone is left unturned and no question is off-limits. Whether you're curious about the secret to keeping the spark alive, how they haven't driven each other completely crazy, or just want to hear Sarah grill Michele until she cracks, you won't want to miss a single second of this hilarious, heartfelt, and entirely filter-free deep dive. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TheSarahWalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@themichelewang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

A Personal Conversation: Sarah's Divorce Journey

2026/06/14

In this week's episode, we are opening up the space for a deeply personal, honest, and heartfelt conversation. Sarah shares, for the first time, the intimate details of her divorce journey—from the quiet realizations and the challenging road to her decision, to how she navigated the emotional aftermath. Divorce is rarely a sudden choice; it is often a long, complex path of self-reflection. We chose to share this story not just to open up about a major chapter in Sarah's life, but with the hope that her vulnerability might offer comfort, clarity, and strength to any woman out there who currently feels stuck, isolated, or at a crossroads in their own marriage. This is a conversation about the hardest choices we have to make, the pain of letting go, and the quiet courage it takes to choose yourself and step into the next chapter of your life. Pour a cup of tea, get comfortable, and join us for a very special, grounded episode. In this episode, we discuss: - The emotional turning points and recognizing when a relationship is no longer serving your growth. - Navigating the weight of the decision while protecting family peace and privacy. - The reality of the transition and finding your footing on the other side. Gentle reminders for women who are feeling stuck or uncertain about their future. If you found comfort in this episode, please consider sharing it with a friend who might need to hear it today. Don't forget to subscribe and leave a gentle review—your support means the world to us. Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@thesarahwalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@themichelewang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

Main Character Energy: Our Life Moments That Belong in a Movie 🎬

2026/06/07

Have you ever had a moment so dramatic, hilarious, or perfectly timed that you looked around for a camera crew? On this week's episode of the Talk Shit and Laugh podcast, we are diving deep into Main Character Energy and sharing the wildest, most movie-worthy scenes from our own lives. From cinematic coincidences to chaotic real-life plot twists, we're breaking down the personal stories that absolutely deserve a Hollywood script. Whether you're here for the laugh-out-loud commentary or looking for inspiration to embrace your own inner main character, grab your popcorn and tune in for a hilarious trip down memory lane! Listen to us on: Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talk-shit-and-laugh/id1833034299 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6J16PGZiWtQdWat83ULW3O Amazon - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/66e7c860-dcf4-4ca2-bdf5-bacc3901d510/talk-shit-and-laugh iHeartMusic - https://iheart.com/podcast/289659802 Talk Sh*t And Laugh Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/talkshitandlaugh/ Sarah Walton - YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@thesarahwalton Website - https://www.sarahwalton.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesarahwalton Michele Wang- YT Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@themichelewang Website - https://www.themichelewang.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/themichelewang

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4.7 out of 5

30 reviews

★★★★★

changagarcia 2026/02/01

Love!❤️

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HartConn 2025/10/02

This is the definition of vapid.

Notvsure why these two decided to add their voices to the very crowded podcast world. They have nothing to say worth listening to. If yiu overheard th...

★★★★★

C Siun 2025/09/09

What fun!

Such an enjoyable and relaxing conversation … like hanging out with witty and sometimes wise, sometimes silly friends. Just discovered this and moving...

★★★★★

Mj115 2025/08/27

Love this Friendship!!

Love listening to Sarah and Michele talk about growing up and the shows and movies they loved! I am in the same age range and it brought back so many ...

★★★★★

Irma Elena 2025/08/19

Great!

Michele and Sarah, I just finished listening to the podcast. Very entertaining and I laughed so much with Michele’s bag story. I feel like if I was th...

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